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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2022, 03:29:48 pm »
For the record, it goes without saying that not all anime franchises are non-Western...The video actually touches on the Westernized side of anime, particularly the Eurocentric caricatures of "blacks" present in certain franchises. This could be attributed to the Westernization of Japan, especially after WW2.

And then there's this scene from the eighth episode of the anime Love Lab:

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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2022, 08:10:07 pm »
Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg13483/#msg13483

we are getting somewhere with this:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/asian-americans-report-complicated-feelings-173000637.html

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Asian Americans report complicated feelings toward pan-ethnic label, study shows
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Most Asian Americans report having a complicated relationship with the pan-ethnic label, according to a newly published survey.

On Tuesday, the Pew Research Center published its largest analysis on the experiences of Asian Americans, which was based on numerous focus group discussions.

In a data essay and accompanying documentary, focus group members spoke about the shortcomings of the term “Asian American,” how people of Asian descent will often be treated or viewed as foreign even if they were born in the United States, and the effects of harmful Asian American stereotypes.

Researchers highlighted a common sentiment among respondents that using the term “Asian American” or “Asian” is less of an active choice and more of an imposed one.

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“Coming to a big country like [the United States], when people ask where we are from … there are some people who have no idea about Bhutan, so we end up introducing ourselves as being Asian,” one respondent said.

Even if you need a broader regional term, "Asian" is not it. Calling yourself "Himalayan" would already be much more accurate:




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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2022, 06:26:58 pm »
May more countries follow suit!

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/art-culture/nigeria-becomes-first-nation-to-ban-white-models-in-commerci

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Nigeria becomes first nation to ban white models in commercials
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The move is consistent with the government’s policy of “developing local talent, including economic growth” and supporting the local advertising industry, the statement said. Nigeria was previously heavily reliant on foreign models and voiceover specialists in its ads, including white models and voiceovers with British accents, according to sources.

The government has been combating such tendencies for quite some time. It previously demanded that companies attracting foreign talents should pay a 100,000 naira (around $240) tariff for any foreign model used in an ad, sources said.

“Ten to 20 years ago if you checked the commercials, I would say they were almost 50/50 in terms of foreign faces and all the voiceovers were British accents,” Steve Babaeko, the head of the Nigerian advertising association, told sources. Multinational corporations like Coca-Cola or LG relied on their global ad campaigns in Nigeria, which also featured white models.



With that said, and while I certainly support encouraging primarily local talent, I would suggest that "non-white" foreign models be accepted in order to promote solidarity among fellow former victims of Western colonialism around the world.
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Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2022, 04:56:24 pm »

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
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« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2022, 06:31:22 pm »
"Is this a good thing or a bad thing?"

It is stupid. The False Left's approach has always been to argue that "non-whites" were already present in ancient Britain, hence today's "non-white" presence is merely a continuation of that. Deliberately casting "non-white" actors as Tolkien characters is part of this approach.

In contrast, the True Left's approach is to argue that even if no "non-whites" had been present in ancient Britain, "non-whites" deserve to be in Britain today precisely because of British colonialism. Therefore it is possible for me to enjoy the old LOTR movie trilogy (with no "non-whites" in the cast) while supporting the Great Replacement in real life.
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« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2022, 08:28:22 pm »
Do you agree with the influx of 'wokeness' in media franchises over the last few years? I hear many conservatives criticizing various media outlets as 'ruining beloved franchises' because of the issue presented in the above video. Does the True Left approach still apply?
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« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2022, 08:34:36 pm »
There is no general answer. Each franchise must be considered on a case-by-case basis. Do you have a particular one (or several) in mind?

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« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2022, 09:50:09 pm »
Here's some to start:



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« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2022, 10:03:54 pm »
What is the rightist complaint about each of these that you want me to comment on?

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« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2022, 10:39:42 am »
For High Guardian Spice, consult these videos for details:




For Star Wars:




For Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power:


Each of these videos make complaints such as 'it breaks the lore', or 'these characters are 'Mary Sues'', or 'the character was only included to 'check off a box for a token minority'. I don't know, it all seems very rightist to me.

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« Reply #55 on: September 12, 2022, 05:20:20 pm »
"'it breaks the lore',"

What is the element of lore of each particular franchise supposedly being broken, and how? As I said in the previous post, we have to consider each franchise (and thus each lore) on a case-by-case basis.

"'these characters are 'Mary Sues''"

Mary Sue is a concept only meaningfully applicable to fan fiction. Applying it to canonical works makes no sense.

"'the character was only included to 'check off a box for a token minority'."

I can only say that I do not support tokenism, which in essence is degrades characters into props and thus insults the very minority being tokenized.
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« Reply #56 on: September 13, 2022, 07:56:53 pm »
'What is the element of lore of each particular franchise supposedly being broken, and how?'
In Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, people claim there were no dark-skinned dwarves, yet a dark-skinned woman was cast as a dwarf. There are other complaints regarding Galadriel and the other elves and how they act 'human', as well as Galadriel being an action heroine.

'Mary Sue is a concept only meaningfully applicable to fan fiction. Apply it to canonical works makes no sense.'
Well, in their defense, the protagonist of the Sequel Trilogy Rey has no flaws or character defects. She is able to effectively use the Force, wield a lightsaber, and pilot the Millennium Falcon despite having little or no prior training.

'I can only say that I do not support tokenism, which in essence is degrades characters into props and thus insults the very minority being tokenized.'
Precisely.

Incidentally, what is your opinion on the animated series Steven Universe? It was made by a Jew, but it has received critical acclaim for its LGBT representation.
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« Reply #57 on: September 13, 2022, 08:25:38 pm »
I already addressed LOTR above.

"Well, in their defense, the protagonist of the Sequel Trilogy Rey has no flaws or character defects. She is able to effectively use the Force, wield a lightsaber, and pilot the Millennium Falcon despite having little or no prior training."

So what? She is a canonical character. Canonical characters can be whatever the author wants them to be. The Mary Sue problem in fan fiction is when fan-inserted characters written as more competent than canonical characters end up making the canonical characters redundant, thus usurping the fan fiction.

"Incidentally, what is your opinion on the animated series Steven Universe?"

I have never watched it and have no plans to.

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« Reply #58 on: September 14, 2022, 12:26:54 pm »
Why? Because it's made by a Jew?
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« Reply #59 on: September 14, 2022, 12:40:41 pm »
I rarely watch new shows in general. Even if I have time, I prefer to rewatch old shows.