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Military decolonization
« on: July 12, 2020, 04:38:51 am »
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All formerly colonized countries that retain on its territory military presence by former colonial powers, while not having equivalent military presence in the territory of the former colonial powers, should still be considered colonized. The current situation:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_military_bases_of_the_United_Kingdom

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_military_bases_abroad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_military_bases_of_France

Genuine decolonization should include either:

1) complete removal of all foreign military presence from one's territory;

or:

2) installation of matching military presence in the territory of all foreign countries whose military presence is permitted on one's own territory.

As for which of these options should be implemented, this must be considered on a case-by-case basis. For example, as we aim for a military invasion of Israel by the same countries which previously created Israel, it would be unwise for (for example) British military bases which could be used to attack Israel to be vacated for now. Thus 2) would be preferable in such cases, at least until Israel is destroyed.

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Oh ****:

www.businessinsider.com.au/us-military-plans-secretive-new-305-million-naval-expansion-australia-usfpi-2019-7

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The US military is planning a secretive new $305 million naval expansion in Australia but no one wants to talk about it
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The US Department of Defence is considering spending $305.9 million on naval infrastructure in Darwin as it expands its presence in Australia but it doesn’t want to say what it’s going to build.

According to a drafted US Congressional bill the ABC discovered, $US211.5 is being put aside for “Navy Military Construction” in the Northern Territory capital, pending approval by US lawmakers.

However, other than outlining that “the Secretary of the Navy may acquire real property and carry out military construction projects for the installations or locations outside the United States”, the bill itself carries very few details.

The same bill also mentions proposed “military constructions” to be built predominately at points around the Pacific, including in Guam and Japan. The Darwin project is the second most expensive project in the bill, with the Guam proposal– strategically-positioned with Korea and Japan to its north and Taiwan to its west — coming in slightly higher at $327 million.

It comes as tensions simmer between the two global superpowers in the disputed South China Sea and the Pacific more broadly. Last week, a US warship sailed through the Taiwan Strait, a day after China warned it would use force to protect its interests.

If approved, the proposed Darwin project would be one of the biggest US military developments in Australia in recent years. However, despite that implication, authorities on both sides of the Pacific are reluctant to speak about the project.

“The $211.5M (USD) in the draft Congress Bill is identified against an agreed works plan under the (US Force Posture Initiatives). This funding is not yet approved,” was all that a US Defence spokesperson would tell Business Insider Australia about its plan.

It would not be drawn on what exactly it wants to build in Darwin, how long the plans had been under consideration and what level of input the Australian Defence Department has had.

It did reveal however that the Darwin proposal forms part of the US Force Posture Initiatives, a concerted effort to build $2 billion worth of defence-related infrastructure to strengthen its presence in northern Australia and “position both nations to better respond to crises in the region”, according to the Australian Department of Defence.

The Pacific Pivot is happening as we speak. It must be reversed. For more details:

authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2018/03/countering-pacific-pivot.html

Hostility towards China must cease to be a bipartisan position. Blue candidates are in complete chaos on this subject as they try to differ from Trump on China not by proposing a different attitude towards China but instead merely by proposing alternative methods of hostility towards China:

www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2019/07/how-will-democrats-deal-china/594817/

when all along the straightforward answer is to let hostility towards China be a Red-only position while themselves picking a target that Reds worship (e.g. Israel) to be hostile towards, thereby achieving a fully-fledged Red-Blue foreign policy polarization.

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An informative map:



The article which features this map:

www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/us-so-weakened-in-indopacific-it-could-now-lose-war-to-china/news-story/0a1666c17140615cc67477dd2b5adc06

spins it as if it is the US which is in danger by its overseas bases being within range of China's missiles, but in reality it is China which understandably feels endangered being so closely surrounded by such a ludicrously large number of bases in the first place! None of these bases should exist. If the US really is worried about its troops being hit by missiles, the best response is to withdraw all the troops!

Most importantly, the countries actually hosting the US bases have no reason to tolerate the bases, which if they were psychologically healthy should make them feel colonized. (Especially Japan, considering the country with military bases on your land is the very same country which nuked you back in WWII, and set up the bases immediately afterwards!)

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A decent start:

www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3029751/can-beijing-take-advantage-relocation-us-troops-south-korea

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The plan to relocate American troops was drawn up in the early 2000s but has suffered repeated setbacks. However, after coming under pressure from its host to speed up the process, the US said this week it was committed to returning the bases to Seoul “as expeditiously as possible”.

In a statement released on Wednesday, US Forces Korea (USFK) said 15 of the 26 installations had been vacated and closed, and were now available for transfer to the South Korean government.

“The perception is that USFK is holding up the process when the reality is we’ve already got 15 of 26 bases and five parcels of Yongsan that are ready to be turned over to the [South Korean] government,” USFK spokesman Colonel Lee Peters was quoted as saying by US military newspaper Stars and Stripes.

11 to go. Even a single base is unacceptable. Other countries in the region should also take this opportunity to ramp up the pressure against Western military bases on their territory, using the South Korea withdrawal as a precedent.

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www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/10/29/national/u-s-conducts-parachute-training-base-okinawa-despite-calls-cancellation-tokyo/

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The U.S. military conducted parachute training at its Kadena Air Base in Okinawa Prefecture on Tuesday despite the Japanese government’s call for the exercise to be canceled.

The parachute training, which was carried out from 6:40 p.m., was the fourth of its kind at the base this year.

An agreement reached by the Japanese and U.S. governments in 1996 calls for the U.S. military to hold, in principle, parachute training at the U.S. Marine Corps’ auxiliary airfield in the island village of Ie in the prefecture.

Many Okinawa people have called on the U.S. military to stop conducting the parachute drills, as a local girl was killed in 1965 in Yomitan after being crushed under a U.S. military trailer that was released from an aircraft.

Defense Minister Taro Kono had asked the U.S. side to cancel Tuesday’s drill, saying that it would go against their agreement.

On Tuesday night, Kono told reporters that the U.S. side had failed to provide a sufficient explanation about the drill. “This was an extremely regrettable development that may affect the Japan-U.S. alliance,” he said.

How much longer will the very presence of US bases be tolerated? Merely complaining about the drills is pretty superficial. People have to be willing to discuss the root of the problem.

finance.yahoo.com/news/okinawa-governor-warns-strong-resistance-220000091.html

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(Bloomberg) -- As the Pentagon hunts for sites to deploy missiles against a rising China, Okinawa’s governor is warning the U.S. to steer clear of the southern Japanese prefecture.

Governor Denny Tamaki said in an interview Friday that any U.S. attempt to base intermediate-range ballistic missiles in Okinawa would be firmly opposed by the local people. Tamaki, who was elected last year on a campaign to get the Marines’ Futenma air base out of the prefecture, argues the region already shoulders an unfair burden by hosting about half of the 50,000 U.S. military personnel in Japan.

“Intermediate-range ballistic missiles can be used to attack other countries, so deploying them would conflict with the constitution and lead to a further build-up of the U.S. bases,” Tamaki, 60, told Bloomberg News. “To have new military facilities would be absolutely unacceptable.”

Yes!

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www.rt.com/news/472814-f16-training-bomb-japan/

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Pentagon ‘investigating’ after US warplane drops training munition on Japanese VILLAGE
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“While conducting training, an F-16 at Misawa released a device 5 kilometers from the Draughon range late Wednesday,” US Forces Japan (USFJ) wrote in a tweet. “The cause of the incident is still under investigation, and USFJ notified [the Japanese government] this morning in accordance with all agreements.”
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While the US has not been at war with Japan for the better part of a century, Washington still maintains an arsenal of military assets in the country for strategic purposes, effectively using the small island nation as an aircraft carrier. The US presence was established with Japan’s consent in 1957, and now consists of around 54,000 troops.

Accidents involving American warplanes have become something of a regular occurrence, however, with some 25 US vehicles involved in one mishap or another in 2017 alone. The bulk of 2017’s accidents occurred over Okinawa, which hosts the US’s Kadena Air Base (despite intense objections from locals). Last year, an American F-15 taking off from Kadena crashed some 50 miles off the Japanese coast, though the pilot ejected and was brought to safety.

Why hasn't Japan kicked them all out yet?

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news.yahoo.com/trump-asked-tokyo-8-bln-045427542.html

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TOKYO, Nov 16 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump has asked Japan to quadruple its payments for U.S. forces stationed there, Foreign Policy reported, citing unnamed current and former U.S. officials, as Washington presses long-standing allies to increase their defence spending.

Washington wants Tokyo to increase annual payments for the 54,000 U.S. troops in Japan to around $8 billion from about $2 billion, Foreign Policy said, citing three unnamed former defence officials. The current agreement expires in March 2021.

All Japan has to do is refuse to pay, and the US troops are out. Japan both gets rid of the US troops and saves money! Why even hesitate?

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news.antiwar.com/2019/11/22/uk-refuses-to-return-its-last-african-colony/

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The UK failed to meet a UN deadline Friday to hand over their last African colony back to its people. The Chagos Islands are far removed from mainland Africa and lay in the middle of the Indian Ocean.

In 1968, the British granted the Island of Mauritius its independence from colonial rule. Mauritius lies over 1,300 miles southwest of the Chagos Islands and was part of the same colonial territory.

Over 2,000 residents of Diego Garcia, the largest island of the Chagos, were forced to move to Mauritius to make way for a US military base. Since the expulsion, the people of Chagos have been fighting to return to their homeland.

In February, the International Court of Justice ruled that the islands are legally a part of Mauritius. In May, the UN General Assembly voted in favor of the court’s ruling and gave the UK six months to hand back the islands. 116 countries voted in favor of the decision, and only six voted against it. Those six countries were the US, UK, Israel, Australia, Hungary, and the Maldives.

In defense of their colonial rule, the British government released a statement, “The UK has no doubt as to our sovereignty over the British Indian Ocean Territory, which has been under continuous British sovereignty since 1814.”

Ultimately, the UN resolution is not binding, and the UK will likely hold onto the colony while the US still has a lease on Diego Garcia, which they extended in 2016 to last until 2036.

In simple terms, Y steals from X, lends the stolen property to Z, and then tells X that it cannot be given back until Z is finished with it because it would be inconsiderate towards Z otherwise.

Background:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_the_Chagossians

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The depopulation of Chagossians from the Chagos Archipelago was the forced expulsion of the inhabitants of the island of Diego Garcia and the other islands of the British Indian Ocean Territory (BIOT) by the United Kingdom, at the request of the United States, beginning in 1968 and concluding on 27 April 1973 with the evacuation of Peros Banhos atoll.[1][2] The people, known at the time as the Ilois,[3] are today known as Chagos Islanders or Chagossians.[4]

Some Chagossians and human rights advocates have said that the Chagossian right of occupation was violated by the British Foreign Office as a result of the 1966 agreement[5] between the British and American governments to provide an unpopulated island for a U.S. military base, and that additional compensation[6] and a right of return[7] be provided.
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The British government has consistently denied any illegalities in the expulsion.

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET.

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No change since last report:

us.yahoo.com/news/okinawa-gov-renews-demand-stop-064533617.html

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TOKYO (AP) — Okinawa's Gov. Denny Tamaki renewed demands Thursday that Japan's central government halt construction of a U.S. Marine Corps. base being relocated to a less-crowded area of the southern Japanese island despite vehement local opposition.

Tamaki was responding to a defense ministry estimate that the project will require more than twice the time and costs earlier estimated because the seabed at the planned reclamation is “as soft as mayonnaise,” experts say, and needs reinforcing.

U.S. Marine Corps Air Station Futenma is to be moved from densely populated Ginowan to the previously undeveloped Henoko area on Okinawa's eastern coast. Futenma's current base is to be closed and returned to Okinawa. Opponents of the relocation plan want the base moved entirely out of Okinawa
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The Defense Ministry said moving Futenma base to Henoko will cost 930 billion yen ($8.5 billion) and take 12 years, pushing its completion and the closure of Futenma into the 2030s. That adds more than a decade to the plan, which has already been delayed by more than 20 years because of local opposition and other reasons.

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"Is it possible that if the US were to be kicked out of the Middle-East the rest of the world would rally against the United States?"

Given that the US's poor reputation around the world is due to its Zionist operations in the Middle East, other countries would surely have less motivation to oppose the US if these activities ceased. This is the temptation that anti-neocons are dangling to distract from the possibility that the US could improve its reputation even more by switching to anti-Zionist operations in the Middle East.

"the US will always have a way back in as long as Israel remains."

Yes, which is why I want it to be the US which leads the future war to destroy Israel. This would be both compensation for its past Zionism and a clear signal that after Israel is destroyed the US means to leave the Middle East permanently.

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"This is the temptation that anti-neocons are dangling:"
Yup. And the anti american False Left (who are effectively useful idiots for Duginism if you've read his writings) is promoting this. In my view, the worldview of the anti-american False Left that exalts Russia is similar to that of the archetypal False Left feminist who is superficially only opposed to patriarchy in her own culture but actually seeks to elevate the patriarchies of other cultures....

"to distract from the possibility that the US could improve its reputation even more by switching to anti-Zionist operations in the Middle East."
And I assume you are counting on the demographic blueshift alone to achieve this? I want to believe this is possible, but I am afraid of a nightmare scenario where the "coalition of the fringes" breaks apart. I will discuss this at length on the Demographic Blueshift page.

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"I assume you are counting on the demographic blueshift alone to achieve this?"

BDS too!

We did not need Demographic Blueshift (though it doubtless helped!) to end Apartheid South Africa back in the Counterculture era.

"I am afraid of a nightmare scenario where the "coalition of the fringes" breaks apart."

That is up to us to prevent!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/uniting-americans/

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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2020, 04:42:19 am »
OLD CONTENT contd.

What I like to see:

www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/01/24/616953/Baghdad-anti-US-rally

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Iraqis have rallied in Baghdad in massive numbers to call for an end to US military presence in the country following high-profile assassinations and airstrikes targeting anti-terror forces.

Sayed Sadiq al-Hashemi, the director of the Iraqi Center for Studies, said more than 2.5 million took part in the demonstrations on Friday.

Since the early hours on Friday, huge crowds of men, women and children of all ages converged on the Jadriyah neighborhood near Baghdad University.

The protesters were seen carrying banners and chanting slogans calling for the expulsion of US forces.

"Get out, get out, occupier!" some shouted, while others chanted, "Yes to sovereignty!"
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On January 5, the Iraqi parliament voted overwhelmingly in favor of a resolution calling for the expulsion of all foreign forces after the US assassination of Iran's General Qassem Soleimani and his Iraqi trenchmate Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis.
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The massive rally came after influential cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called on Iraqis to stage "a million-strong, peaceful, unified demonstration to condemn the American presence and its violations".

Sadr issued a statement on Friday calling for US bases to be shut down and Iraqi airspace closed to US warplanes and surveillance aircraft.

He warned that US presence in the country will be dealt with as an occupying force if Washington does not agree with Iraqi demands to withdraw for the country.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF2WjPVCn0o

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More of what I like to see:

www.npr.org/2020/02/11/804751958/philippines-says-it-will-end-u-s-security-agreement

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At the direction of President Rodrigo Duterte, a fierce critic of the United States, the Philippines announced Tuesday that it would scrap a security pact that allows American forces to train there.
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The U.S. Embassy in Manila issued a brief statement on Tuesday calling Duterte's move "a serious step with significant implications for the U.S.-Philippine alliance."
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Duterte came to office three years ago with strong words for Washington. Among other things, he has said the U.S. treats the Philippines as "like a dog on a leash" and has accused U.S. forces of clandestine activities in the country. After assuming power in 2016, Duterte executed a dramatic pivot away from the U.S. and toward China, increasingly the dominant regional power. Renato de Castro, professor of international studies at De La Salle University in Manila, told NPR that the decision to jettison the Visiting Forces Agreement is part of "Duterte's desire to do away with the U.S., so there is no obstacle in his pivot to China."

Our enemies are worried:

www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/02/15/philippines-want-the-us-out-not-alone/

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The Philippines are located in the region of a potential Naval blockade, meaning that without them suffocating the Chinese from a naval standpoint becomes much more difficult and perhaps impossible.
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this is not the only nation that is trying to or has successfully removed U.S./NATO forces. The Kyrgyz ended foreign operations in their country most of which used their largest airport in Bishkek. (On a personal note it was very odd and humiliating to see an international airport with more foreign military planes in Bishkek than civilian, there were also many accusations of bad behavior towards locals including one alleged murder). Surprisingly even the Iraqi government which was essentially built by the U.S. has asked their forces to leave the country after the assassination of Iranian General Soleimani. Even the Mainstream Media admits that tens of thousands of Japanese have protested against U.S. bases in other country (again due to alleged abuse of locals). However, the government of Japan has made no formal requests to have U.S. forces leave, but quietly the constitutional ban on having a real military is being worn away by Tokyo as it has seen its first round of military expansion in decades.

In order for the U.S. to maintain its global military presence it needs to take a look at cases in which occupation has been seen as a positive by locals – South Korea.

Which is why South Korea should never have existed.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N5v8ZfywzM

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Duterte the coward:

www.yahoo.com/news/philippines-suspends-abrogation-defense-pact-154110985.html
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MANILA, Philippines (AP) — The Philippine president has suspended his decision to terminate a key defense pact with the United States, at least temporarily avoiding a major blow to one of America’s oldest alliances in Asia.
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President Rodrigo Duterte’s administration notified the U.S. government on Feb. 11 that it intends to abrogate the 1998 agreement, which allows the entry of large numbers of American forces for joint combat training with Filipino troops and lays down the legal terms for their temporary stay. The termination would have taken effect after 180 days, in August, unless both sides agreed to keep the agreement.
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“Do we need America to survive as a nation?” Duterte asked in February. “Do we need … the might and power of the military of the United States to fight our rebellion here and the terrorists down south and control drugs?”

“The (Philippine) military and police said, `Sir, we can do it,’” Duterte said.

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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2020, 04:44:39 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/dozens-us-marines-japans-okinawa-114553528.html

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TOKYO (AP) — Dozens of U.S. Marines at two bases on the southern Japanese island of Okinawa have been infected with the coronavirus in what is feared to be a massive outbreak, Okinawa's governor said Saturday, demanding an adequate explanation from the U.S. military.
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“Okinawans are shocked by what we were told (by the U.S. military),” Tamaki told a news conference. “We now have strong doubts that the U.S. military has taken adequate disease prevention measures.”

Tamaki demanded transparency in the latest development and said he planned to request talks between the U.S. military and Okinawan officials. He said Okinawan officials also asked the Japanese government to demand that the U.S. provide details including the number of cases, seal off Futenma and Camp Hansen, and step up preventive measures on base.

Better idea: evacuate and shut down the base altogether!

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Okinawa is home to more than half of about 50,000 American troops based in Japan under a bilateral security pact, and the residents are sensitive to U.S. base-related problems. Many Okinawans have long complained about pollution, noise and crime related to U.S. bases.

Okinawans also oppose a planned relocation of the Futenma air base from the current site in a densely populated area in the south to a less populated area on the east coast.

Local media reported that the Okinawan assembly adopted a resolution Friday protesting the U.S. military's lack of transparency about its outbreak on base.

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France pressed to investigate its massacre in Mali
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Human Rights Watch urges France to fully and impartially investigate reported loss of 19 civilian lives after its airstrikes targeted, what locals have identified as, a wedding ceremony in east-central Mali in early January.

The attacks were carried out by two French Mirage 2000 warplanes, part of France’s expansive military presence in the impoverished West African country, near the village of Bounti.
https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2021/01/21/643573/Mali-France-Human-Rights-Watch-wedding-massacre-civilians

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2021, 09:28:38 pm »
How will US troop withdrawal affect Afghanistan?
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It’s been the United States' longest running war, but now it looks set to end.
President Joe Biden plans to withdraw all U.S. troops from Afghanistan by September the 11th this year.
That's exactly 20 years after the invasion was ordered by then-president George W.Bush, following the attacks on New York City and the Pentagon.
The planned withdrawal will miss a May 1 deadline for a pull-out that the Trump administration agreed with the Taliban last year.
The US has 2,500 soldiers in Afghanistan as part of a NATO mission.
It's spent trillions of dollars on the conflict and lost more than 2,000 service members since 2001.
Washington says it will reposition its troops in the region to keep an eye on Afghanistan.
But some US officials have criticised the decision as a grave mistake that could embolden the Taliban and lead to more violence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JknHEaIHxSI

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Re: Afghanistan
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2021, 02:46:03 am »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wave-afghan-surrenders-taliban-picks-182414782.html

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as U.S. troops began leaving the country in early May, Taliban fighters besieged seven rural Afghan military outposts across the wheat fields and onion patches of the province, in eastern Afghanistan.

The insurgents enlisted village elders to visit the outposts bearing a message: Surrender or die.
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By mid-month, security forces had surrendered all seven outposts after extended negotiations, according to village elders.
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Since May 1, at least 26 outposts and bases in just four provinces — Laghman, Baghlan, Wardak and Ghazni — have surrendered after such negotiations, according to village elders and government officials. With morale diving as U.S. troops leave, and the Taliban seizing on each surrender as a propaganda victory, each collapse feeds the next in the Afghan countryside.

Among the negotiated surrenders were four district centers, which house local governors, police and intelligence chiefs — effectively handing the government facilities to Taliban control and scattering the officials there, at least temporarily.

The Taliban have negotiated Afghan troop surrenders in the past, but never at the scale and pace of the base collapses this month in the four provinces extending east, north and west of Kabul. The tactic has removed hundreds of government forces from the battlefield, secured strategic territory and reaped weapons, ammunition and vehicles for the Taliban — often without firing a shot.

As soon as the Taliban retakes Afghanistan, the US should resume the old Counterculture-era alliance with them:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93United_States_relations#Soviet_invasion_and_civil_war

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During the period of Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the U.S. provided about 3 billion US dollars in military and economic assistance to the Mujahideen groups stationed on the Pakistani side of the Durand Line. The U.S. Embassy in Kabul was closed in January 1989 for security reasons.

The United States welcomed the new Islamic administration that came to power in April 1992 after the fall of the former Soviet-backed government.[8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War#United_States

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Democratic congressman Charlie Wilson became obsessed with the Afghan cause, in 1982 he visited the Pakistani leadership, and was taken to a major Pakistan-based Afghan refugee camp to see first hand the conditions and the Soviet atrocities. After his visit he was able to leverage his position on the House Committee on Appropriations to encourage other Democratic congressmen to vote for CIA Afghan war money.[241] Wilson teamed with CIA manager Gust Avrakotos and formed a team of a few dozen insiders who greatly enhanced support for the Mujahideen. With Ronald Reagan as president he then greatly expanded the program as part of the Reagan Doctrine of aiding anti-Soviet resistance movements abroad. To execute this policy, Reagan deployed CIA Special Activities Division paramilitary officers to equip the Mujihadeen forces against the Soviet Army.

This was also a time when America and China were fighting on the same side, which is what we are trying to get back to:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet%E2%80%93Afghan_War#China

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China responded to the Soviet war in Afghanistan by supporting the mujahideen and ramping up their military presence near Afghanistan in Xinjiang. China acquired military equipment from America to defend itself from Soviet attack.[282] At the same time relations with the United States had cooled considerably that by 1980 Washington had begun to supply China with a variety of weapons. They even reached an agreement of two joint tracking and listening stations in Xinjiang.[283]

The Chinese People's Liberation Army provided training, arms organisation and financial support. Anti-aircraft missiles, rocket launchers and machine guns, valued at hundreds of millions, were given to the mujahideen by the Chinese. Throughout the war Chinese military advisers and army troops trained upwards of several thousand Mujahidin inside Xinjiang and along the Pakistani border.[283]

This is how we will build the anti-Duginist front!

More about Wilson:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Wilson_(Texas_politician)#Soviet-Afghan_war

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Wilson later said that "the experience that will always be seared in my memory, was going through those hospitals and seeing, especially those children with their hands blown off from the mines that the Soviets were dropping from their helicopters. That was perhaps the deciding thing ... and it made a huge difference for the next 10 or 12 years of my life because I left those hospitals determined, as long as I had a breath in my body and was a member in Congress, that I was going to do what I could to make the Soviets pay for what they were doing!" In 2008, Wilson said he had "got involved in Afghanistan because I went there and I saw what the Soviets were doing. And I saw the refugee camps."[27]
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Wilson died at the age of 76 on February 10, 2010, at Memorial Health System of East Texas at Lufkin (now the CHI St. Luke's Health Memorial Lufkin) in Lufkin, Texas, after collapsing earlier in the day.[47] He suffered from cardiopulmonary arrest.[48][49][50] "America has lost an extraordinary patriot whose life showed that one brave and determined person can alter the course of history," said Robert Gates, then United States Secretary of Defense.[51][52]
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After Sunday's service, his widow Barbara welcomed a small group of her late husband's intimates to their home on the golf course in Lufkin. Next to an American eagle sculpture in the living room, the words of Abdur Rahman Khan, emir of Afghanistan from 1880 to 1901, are emblazoned on a brass plaque: "My spirit will remain in Afghanistan even though my soul will go to God. My last words to you my son and successor are: Never Trust the Russians." [57]
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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2021, 11:51:50 am »
https://twitter.com/farsazadi/status/1403155359737389057?s=19
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there are still over a million undetonated explosives throughout afghanistan because of the soviets’ indiscriminate bombing campaigns. they still regularly kill people, 8/10 victims are children particularly because the soviets deliberately made many bombs appear as toys
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3 children in Pakistan were killed after finding a grenade they thought was a toy. Unexploded grenades from the 1979 Soviet invasion of neighboring Afghanistan have killed dozens of children there.

Unexploded war weapons kill or wound over 10,000 children every year globally.
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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2021, 01:04:52 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1vQBY7mHzA

The comments get it:

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so this is why west medias loves to bs stuff bout uygur xD

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now we know why the west wants to try and destabilized this region

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thats the reason xinjiang needs democracy 😂😂😂...same as iraq, libya etc

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No wonder the west want to control China again. Democracy free with every two gallons!

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No wonder somebody suddenly cares so much about the " fake genocide" in Xinjiang

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ha haa😂😂😂 now we can see why western media always mention this region they are jealous 😂😄😄 they must have known this region has oil and gas

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Time for Human Rights, Freedom & Democrazy.

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Tats it! They need democracy🤣

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som1 gonna introduce demoCrazy

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In past western used opium and now they used the term"human right"..

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Watch out...freedom and democracy is coming your way

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these oil supposed to be stored in democracy tank

etc.
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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2021, 02:16:36 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/imminent-nearly-20-years-us-060907789.html

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It's imminent: After nearly 20 years US to leave Bagram
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In just a matter of days, the last U.S. soldiers will depart Bagram. They are leaving what probably everyone connected to the base, whether American or Afghan, considers a mixed legacy.
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The Soviet Union built the airfield in the 1950s. When it invaded Afghanistan in 1979 to back a communist government, it turned it into its main base from which it would defend its occupation of the country. For 10 years, the Soviets fought the U.S.-backed mujahedeen, dubbed freedom fighters by President Ronald Reagan, who saw them as a front-line force in one of the last Cold War battles.
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“The closure of Bagram is a major symbolic and strategic victory for the Taliban,” said Bill Roggio, senior fellow at the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

“If the Taliban is able to take control of the base, it will serve as anti-U.S. propaganda fodder for years to come,” said Roggio who is also editor of the foundation’s Long War Journal.

Unless the US officially switches back to supporting the Taliban first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=577l7aAlnTg
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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2021, 12:06:45 am »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-military-completes-withdrawal-afghanistan-204032363.html

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BERLIN (Reuters) - The German military late on Tuesday concluded its withdrawal from Afghanistan after almost two decades, finishing Germany's deadliest military mission since World War 2.
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Over the last years, Germany had the second largest contingent of troops after the United States in Afghanistan, with around 150,000 soldiers deployed over the past two decades, many of them serving more than one tour in the country.

Now hopefully Germany can return to its old relationship with Afghanistan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghanistan%E2%80%93Germany_relations

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Afghanistan established close ties with Germany, now under Adolf Hitler, in 1935 – forming important economic and technical connections,[12] and seeking an alternative to its historical position as a contested territory between the USSR and Britain. Germany increased commercial transactions in Afghanistan during this period, with a weekly Berlin-Kabul air service established, and the Organisation Todt supervised major infrastructure projects in the country.[13]

In order to do so, it must first eliminate the more Turanized side within Germany:

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East Germany supported the Soviet role in the country

In other words, it must eliminate the AfD whose support is strongest in the former East Germany regions:

https://books.google.com/books?id=00i8DwAAQBAJ&pg=PT115

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/afd/
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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2021, 10:52:31 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/taliban-prevailed-afghanistan-says-former-172727945.html

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The Taliban has “prevailed” in its battle with the West in Afghanistan, the former head of the British Army has said, as it emerged all UK and US troops will be withdrawn on Sunday.
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Lord Dannatt has called for a Chilcot-like “audit” of the campaign to take place, after The Telegraph revealed that the Union flag has been lowered in Kabul, ending 20 years of British presence in the country.

The Telegraph can now also reveal that a source close to General Sir Nick Carter, the chief of the defence staff, confirmed that the remaining British and US forces would be withdrawn from Afghanistan on Independence Day.

The source said: “We will all be out on July 4th. The main British mission will also be concluded by July 4th.”


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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2021, 11:47:42 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/european-troops-low-key-return-131158103.html

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BERLIN (AP) — Most European troops have already pulled out of Afghanistan, quietly withdrawing months before the U.S.-led mission was officially expected to end — part of an anticlimactic close to the “forever war” that risks leaving the country on the brink of civil war.

Germany and Italy declared their missions in Afghanistan over on Wednesday and Poland's last troops returned home, bringing their deployments to a low-key end nearly 20 years after the first Western soldiers were deployed there.
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The German pullout came amid a spate of withdrawals by European nations. Poland’s last departing troops were greeted Wednesday by Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak. Some 33,000 Polish troops have served in Afghanistan over the past 20 years.
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Georgia’s last troops returned home Monday, while Romania brought home its remaining 140 troops Saturday, when Norway also pulled out. Troops from Denmark, Estonia and the Netherlands also returned home last week. Spain withdrew its last troops on May 13, Sweden on May 25, and Belgium on June 14. The small contingents deployed by Portugal, the Czech Republic, Slovenia, Finland, Albania, North Macedonia and Luxembourg have left as well.

NEVER FORGIVE. NEVER FORGET. And never let the lower-profile Western countries get away with lying about them never participating in colonialism. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/colonial-crimes-dw-documentary/msg5465/#msg5465

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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2021, 10:40:32 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/afghanistan-foreign-troops-must-leave-211219883.html

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Any foreign troops left in Afghanistan after Nato's September withdrawal deadline will be at risk as occupiers, the Taliban has told the BBC.

Too bad we don't see Japan etc. talking like this despite also being under military occupation (and for so much longer too!).

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The Taliban spokesman described the current government as "moribund" and referred to the country as the "Islamic emirate" - an indication that the group envisaged a theocratic basis for governing the country and were unlikely to agree to Afghan government demands for elections.


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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2021, 03:39:06 am »
More good news:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/macron-france-withdraw-more-2-141131233.html

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PARIS (AP) — France will withdraw more than 2,000 troops from an anti-extremism force in Africa’s Sahel region by early next year and pivot its military presence to specialized regional forces instead, President Emmanuel Macron said Friday.

Macron announced last month a future reduction of France’s military presence, arguing that it’s no longer adapted to the needs in the area. The French Barkhane force, operating in Mali, Chad, Niger, Burkina Faso and Mauritania, had also met opposition from some Africans.

After discussions Friday with leaders of the African countries involved, Macron announced that France would reduce its force to 2,500 to 3,000 troops over the long term. The country currently has 5,000 troops in the region.
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While governments in the Sahel have embraced France’s military help, some critics have likened their presence to a vestige of French colonial rule.

That is exactly what it is! If France is worried about what it calls "extremism" in the Sahel, it should simply accept refugees from the Sahel (and use its military to help transport refugees). Then those who dislike the "extremism" can relocate to France, while those who like it can stay put. Let people decide for themselves! What is so difficult to understand about this?!

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Re: Military decolonization
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2021, 12:17:23 pm »
I don't know if this counts, but US military leadership took Trump's coup attempt seriously and seems to have realized the existential and anti-American threat White Supremacy in the military poses.

US Military leadership seems like they are almost on the cusp of explicitly admitting the military is antiracist and needs to root out white supremacy.

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In February, Austin ordered a stand-down across all branches of the military to address the issue of white supremacy within the ranks following revelations that a number of current and former service members were involved in the Capitol attack on Jan 6. Shortly after that, Austin appointed a senior adviser of human capital, diversity, equity and inclusion.

Those initiatives have been supported by number of current military leaders, including Milley — the supreme commander of all U.S. armed forces — and Maj. Gen. John Evans, commander of the Army Cadet Command.
https://www.salon.com/2021/06/12/potential-2024-candidate-tom-cotton-leading-gop-charge-against-woke-ideology-in-military/

A month ago a WN Lt. Col. was relieved of his command for being anti-American:

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Lt. Col. Matthew Lohmeier joined The Steve Gruber show to discuss his new book, "Irresistible Revolution: Marxism's Goal of Conquest & the Unmaking of the American Military," which alleges that Marxist ideologies are becoming widespread within the armed forces. He expounded on those concerns in the podcast.

"Since taking command as a commander about 10 months ago, I saw what I consider fundamentally incompatible and competing narratives of what America was, is and should be," Lohmeier said. "That wasn't just prolific in social media, or throughout the country during this past year, but it was spreading throughout the United States military. And I had recognized those narratives as being Marxist in nature."

When pressed on what exactly he meant, Lohmeier decried the New York Times 1619 Project, a historical look at how slavery formed America's institutions, as "anti-American."

"It teaches intensive teaching that I heard at my base -- that at the time the country ratified the United States Constitution, it codified White supremacy as the law of the land," Lohmeier said. "If you want to disagree with that, then you start (being) labeled all manner of things including racist."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/15/politics/space-force-lohmeier-fired-after-comments/index.html

Matt Gaetz and other Republicans have been trying to goad the military leadership into saying they support "critical race theory". As if being anti-racist is supposed to be some kind of gotcha moment?
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4967648/defense-secretary-austin-calls-claim-pentagon-embracing-critical-race-theory-spurious

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Matt Gaetz Throws a Colossal **** Fit Over the Military Acknowledging Racism Is Real
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/matt-gaetz-republicans-critical-race-theory-military

Obviously they don't have the courage to fully embrace being "woke", but they are basically acknowledging the military must be anti-racist in order to maintain unity in order to be able to function and carry out its mission.

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Responding to a question by Rep. Mike Waltz about the appropriateness of a seminar at the United States Military Academy at West Point called "Understanding Whiteness and White Rage," Milley responded: "I want to understand White rage. And I'm White. And I want to understand it."

Tying the question to the January 6 insurrection, Milley asked: "What is it that caused thousands of people to assault this building and try to overturn the Constitution of the United States of America? What caused that? I want to find that out. I want to maintain an open mind here."

Milley called it "offensive" that service members were being called "quote, 'woke' or something else, because we're studying some theories that are out there."

"I've read Mao Zedong. I've read, I've read Karl Marx. I've read Lenin. That doesn't make me a communist," Milley said. "So what is wrong with understanding, having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend?"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mark-milley-top-us-general-hits-back-against-offensive-gop-criticism-and-defends-pentagon-diversity-efforts/ar-AALmKAt

Video of General Milley's remarks:
https://twitter.com/RanttMedia/status/1407753160760889351

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"Initially you mentioned critical race theory. I'm not a theorist. I'm the Chief of Naval Operations," Gilday responded to Lamborn. "What I can tell you is factually, based on a substantial amount of time talking to sailors in the fleet, there's racism in the Navy just like there's racism in our country. And the way we're going to get after it is to be honest about it, not to sweep it under the rug, and to talk about it."

Gilday said he has read the book and praised it for how "Kendi is self-critical about his own journey as an African-American in this country."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/15/politics/gilday-navy-confronting-racism/index.html


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During one debate in the Oval Office, Bender reportedly wrote, Miller said the protests reminded him of a war zone.

Milley turned around in his seat, pointed his finger at Miller, and said, "Shut the f--- up, Stephen,"
the book reportedly says.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-milley-told-stephen-miller-shut-up-blm-comments-book-2021-6

Right-wing propagandist suggests withholding all funding from the military until the military stops being against racism. Mind boggling.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fox-news-host-laura-ingraham-suggests-defunding-the-military-video-2021-6

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"Mark Milley is the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff," Carlson added. "He didn't get that job because he's brilliant or because he's brave. Or because people who know him respect him. He is not, and they definitely don't. Milley got the job because he is obsequious. He knows who to suck up to, and he's more than happy to do it. Feed him a script and he will read it."
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The Fox News host then claimed that white rage only affected people "with specific melanin levels" and was "a race-specific illness."

After playing more footage of Milley's testimony to the House committee, Carlson laughed and said: "He's not just a pig. He's stupid."

He then complained that Milley had read Marx and Mao, but would be "fired instantly" if he read books by white supremacists to educate himself.
https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-calls-general-mark-milley-pig-critical-race-theory-comments-1604029

Besides anti-racists, who would read WN literature to "educate themselves"? Oh, right, WNs like Carlson.


Left-leaning media seems to be getting wiser, at least:

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Don't be fooled by parents' "critical race theory" tantrums — they're a part of the GOP's strategy
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It's hard not to laugh at some dude being dragged out of school board meeting half-naked, hollering about how he refuses to be oppressed on the basis of the pasty skin he is amply showing off to the world. But it would be unwise to underestimate these people, just because they act like a bunch of clowns. What they are doing has been carefully orchestrated by GOP operatives for the express purpose of stoking racism. The ridiculous behavior we're seeing from white people across the country right now is a feature, not a bug, of this strategy.
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In the past few weeks, much has been written highlighting how the national freakout over "critical race theory" is not organic, but complete astroturf ginned up by Republicans who are looking for a fresh new angle on the race-baiting tactics they've used to organize their base for decades. In a heavily reported piece, NBC News exposed how what seems to be a parent uprising is, in fact, a "coordinated movement with the backing of major conservative organizations and media outlets." Both Media Matters and the New Yorker have taken deep dives into how much this entire movement is being propped up by Republican operatives posing as nothing more than "concerned parents."

But it's not just the lies about critical race theory that are deliberate here. The over-the-top antics at school boards are central to this scheme. While it's hilarious to liberals, watching white people on a victim trip melt down, it's actually very effective as a propaganda technique.
https://www.salon.com/2021/06/24/dont-be-fooled-by-parents-critical-race-theory-tantrums--theyre-a-part-of-the-gops-strategy/


Apparently public opinion turned on the red scare McCarthyism after he started going after the military. Will the public finally turn on rightist fear mongers now that they are attacking our military? Even after decades of "support our troops" propaganda, I doubt it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy#Investigating_the_army

(As an additional matter of trivia, McCarthy's main lawyer Roy Cohn also helped Trump get his started in the 1970s, defending him against lawsuits alleging that Trump wouldn't rent to "blacks" in the 1970s).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn#Representation_of_Donald_Trump_and_Rupert_Murdoch
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump#1970s