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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2021, 12:23:15 pm »
"Earlier, I proposed that among Gentiles, there seems to be an unspoken consensus hierarchy with Giants at the top."
Indeed. The girl's admiration of Tom Brady, whom we have already established as a Giant type, substantiates your theory all the more.


Perhaps this could also explain why we have seen certain "non-White" tribal groups mourning the death of "Prince" Phillip?

"Of course, this logically means that "whites" believe they are the best either way."

How so? Agree that this applies for the non-Turanian Gentiles, but how about the Turanists? Is it because "Whites" can claim they are superior because their subtype is the"purest" Turanian?

And if so, then by the same token, couldn't the Giants also use this reasoning even if (purely for the sake of argument) there were no consensus hierarchy, but instead superiority was merely based on which Gentile subtype was the "purest"?
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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2021, 10:37:33 pm »
"How so?"

Among any "non-white" group, there will be internal disagreement between those with Turanian blood memory (who believe in their own superiority) and those with Gentile blood memory (who believe in "white" superiority). Among "whites" (including Jews), in contrast, those with Turanian blood memory and those with Gentile blood memory will end up agreeing that "whites" are superior (since "own" in this case means "white"). In sum, this means "whites" will be more convinced of their own superiority than any "non-white" group.

"Is it because "Whites" can claim they are superior because their subtype is the"purest" Turanian?"

They could in theory, but it is more likely they will claim (as MacDonald, Duchesne, etc. do) that the Turanian-Giant mix is superior to Turanian-[any other Gentile] mixes. Just because they believe Turanians are superior to Giants does not mean they cannot also agree that Giants are superior to other Gentiles.

"couldn't the Giants also use this reasoning even if (purely for the sake of argument) there were no consensus hierarchy, but instead superiority was merely based on which Gentile subtype was the "purest"?"

It is unrealistic to believe any Old World Gentile subtype is purer than:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_Australians

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Re: Psychological Decolonization
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2021, 08:44:58 pm »
A Giant introduces modern weaponry to his more primitive "non-White" Gentile counterparts:


Observe how much in awe the "non-White" Gentiles are of the "White" Gentile. I can only imagine this must be the same way their ancestors felt when "Whites" colonized them. This further substantiates your theory that Eurocentrism is partially caused by "non-White" Gentile genes, as they view Giants as superior for having superior weaponry, as evidenced in the video.

BTW, the video just randomly popped up in my feed this morning, just right after I had finished discussing this phenomenon on the forum last night!
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« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2021, 07:14:32 am »
This further substantiates your theory that Eurocentrism is partially caused by "non-White" Gentile genes, as they view Giants as superior for having superior weaponry, as evidenced in the video.

This reminds me of how kameradbaren has been praising Russian weapons in a number of his posts. I think he might be a Giant-worshiping "non-white" Gentile who isn't able to distinguish between Giants and "white" Turanians.

This could explain his obsession with Russia (in fact, he has written nothing substantial at all on Nusantaran issues so far, yet almost all of his posts either praise Russia or criticize us for failing to embrace his Russophilia) as well as his preference for Western dress. What do you think, fellow farmoids?
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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2021, 07:12:10 pm »
I agree.

But I wanted to get back to the subject of Eurocentrism in Arab countries, namely UAE. From what I gathered from my uncle, who I mentioned earlier, the main propagators of Eurocentrism in the UAE were Bedouin types that you see in movies. I inferred this because he said many of those propagating Eurocentrism were typicallly agressive, which we know is a Bedouin trait, and also because we know that Bedouins make up a large percentage of the Arab population.

Since Bedouins are Turanians, what do you think about Eurocentrism among the "non-White" Turanians such as the Bedouins, when in theory it should be the Zarzians who are propagating Eurocentrism? Or maybe I am just confusing Zarzians with Bedouins?


EDIT: I deleted the last few paragraphs
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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2021, 11:49:24 pm »
"what do you think about Eurocentrism among the "non-White" Turanians such as the Bedouins"

I don't claim that Eurocentrism is solely genetic; much of it undoubtedly is caused by the experience of being colonized by the Western colonial powers creating the association of "whiteness" with power. It is on this account that I do believe that effective propaganda can significantly reduce (though not completely erase) Eurocentrism among many.

"when in theory it should be the Zarzians who are propagating Eurocentrism?"

How would we recognize present-day Zarzians? As far as I know there have been no traditional hunting clans in that region for ages.

In any case, merely treating "white" strangers better than "non-white" strangers in equivalent day-to-day interactions is only one aspect of Eurocentrism. What I would consider more revealing is, for example, how such parents raise their offspring. Do they try to immerse their offspring in Western education, Western decorum, etc., believing this will 'improve' their offspring?

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« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2021, 12:24:57 am »
"I don't claim that Eurocentrism is solely genetic; much of it undoubtedly is caused by the experience of being colonized by the Western colonial powers creating the association of "whiteness" with power. It is on this account that I do believe that effective propaganda can significantly reduce (though not completely erase) Eurocentrism among many."

Maybe it will erase Eurocentrism, but I would argue that the drive for power itself is just as bad insofar as it helped uphold the Eurocentric hierarchy. But if you are arguing that without the colonial era (which caused Eurocentrism to begin with), this "drive" would merely be expressed in the form of raw Turanism as opposed to manifesting itself as explicit Eurocentrism, and hence "Whiteness" and those who worship it (i.e. Paleo-Gentiles) due to their genetic deference toward the progenitors of it (i.e. Giants) should be targeted first in order to end Eurocentrism, then I would agree. But Aryanization will only be complete with the phasing out of those aggressive subhuman Turanians. Non-Eurocentric, goat-sacrificing/eating aggression is also worthy of our condemnation (I would assume).

"How would we recognize present-day Zarzians? As far as I know there have been no traditional hunting clans in that region for ages."

I was thinking aggression, but since by my own admission, Bedouins are also aggressive, this would not work. So what I meant to say was that in theory there should exist very minimal Eurocentrism in this region, but now that you have clarified Eurocentrism is not purely genetic, I can see why some non-Paleo Gentiles also practice it.

"In any case, merely treating "white" strangers better than "non-white" strangers in equivalent day-to-day interactions is only one aspect of Eurocentrism. What I would consider more revealing is, for example, how such parents raise their offspring. Do they try to immerse their offspring in Western education, Western decorum, etc., believing this will 'improve' their offspring?"

I see. Now that you mention it, they are not Eurocentric in this regard. This is not to say that their parenting is Aryan (far from it) as they essentially teach their children to be aggressive playground bullies. Quite literally, my uncle remarked how the Bedouin parents would encourage their offspring to push and shove their way onto the slide at a playground, at the expense of the non-aggressive children!

Of course, if an ideological anti-Eurocentrism is also rooted in anti-Turanism, then I assume we will be able to deal with two things in one shot.
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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #52 on: May 21, 2021, 03:39:15 am »
red "White" man Bernie Sanders (Jew):

Compare Sanders' skin color with the podium text.

Hell, if you're on mobile, compare it with the background of this webpage.

His skin color is more similar to the red flag stripe behind him!
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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2021, 09:55:33 pm »
Sander's hair is also white. Compare with his skin color.

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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #54 on: May 29, 2021, 07:10:47 pm »
Irredeemable False Leftists engage in Eurocentrism
https://twitter.com/AbbyMartin/status/1398329852688625665?s=19

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Yeah, some people just want to join a colonial army halfway across the world because they are really passionate about oppressing and subjugating brown people ???

This is what the average Palestinian looks like:



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« Reply #55 on: May 29, 2021, 10:41:06 pm »
Twitter 101 (by same commenter as above that triggered Martin, I love how they also pointed out the average persons inability to comprehend what they read.):

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When you realize I'm right so you post a gif trying to cope.
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Re: Psychological decolonization
« Reply #56 on: May 29, 2021, 10:42:38 pm »
Did you mean to post a link? I can't seem to understand what you meant to say.(?)

UPDATE: nvm, I found the tweet(s) you are talking about, it is in the same thread
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« Reply #57 on: June 07, 2021, 12:36:57 am »
Another version of the same story we keep hearing:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/came-terms-being-asian-160711235.html

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I was a shy and sensitive Asian kid living in a small, mostly-white town. I'd turn on the TV and rarely see anyone that looked like me. There were a few films and shows that featured strong Asian actors like Bruce Lee or Jackie Chan, but I always remember seeing the toxic Hollywood caricatures of Asian people: Mickey Rooney’s Mr. Yunioshi in Breakfast at Tiffany’s — the angry, tight-eyed, buck-toothed Japanese man with a stereotypical accent — or the nerdy math geek in high school.

I couldn’t really make the connection with being Asian.

Growing up, I always wished that I had bigger eyes and was white like everyone else in my small town. To blend in, I was conditioned to act like my stereotypical vision of a white person. As a second-generation South Korean, I had always looked down on my ethnicity as if it were a handicap. I was ashamed of my culture. I vividly remember how I would sheepishly bring friends over for dinner, wishing my mother didn’t have her strong Korean accent. I would ask her to cook something more “western” like burgers or spaghetti, worrying that my friends would think our food smelled weird.
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Kids would pull back their eyes and say “ching chang chong” or sing the classic “me chinese me no dumb” song. I would be called “ch*nk,” “n*p” or “g*ok.” (Though I almost appreciated being called “g*ok,” as it was more specific to Koreans. What a refined racist, I thought to myself.)

I was even beaten up because of my race. I once had a regular bully throw rocks at me while yelling “go back to your country,” and I ended up having to get stitches.

Worse than the physical scars were the emotional ones. I remember when a so-called “friend” I was playing with at the park turned on me the moment that another group of his friends started bullying me. He ended up joining the fun, spewing racist comments, and hitting me.

I really enjoyed sports as a kid, especially hockey. I grew numb to the racist slurs from the opposition, but the comments from my own teammates stung. Of course, there was the more subtle racism like, “Where are you from?” or “are you Chinese or Japanese” or “you must be great at math.” Sometimes I’d try to laugh it off; to try and fit in by joking about it or changing the subject. I remember as a youngster it would hit deep and I would cry for hours in my room. As I grew into a teenager I would compartmentalize it, but the odd time my anger would boil over and get me into fights at the local weekend “bush party.” I realized I would always have to keep my head on a swivel. There were people who hated me for being Asian, and they would go out of their way to beat the sh*t out of me.

As I grew older I continued to resist anything to do with Asian culture. Sometimes I would even say racist comments about Koreans or other Asian people, as I tried to embody being as white as I could be. Hell, even my friends would often say that I was whiter than them — the classic “twinkie” or “banana” — and I relished it.

But people think Khilanani is the sick one.....

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« Reply #58 on: August 21, 2021, 12:47:50 am »
https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-umpires-show-discrimination-against-non-white-players-according-to-new-study-191649525.html

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A new study suggests MLB umpires discriminate against non-white players, according to Hank Snowdon, a student at Claremont McKenna.
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While white umpires gave more favorable calls to white players, that was also the case with Latino umps.

The favouritism of "white" umpires to the benefit of "white" players can be accounted for as tribal nepotism. The favouritism of "non-white" umpires also to the benefit of "white" players can only be Eurocentrism.

And do you really think this only occurs in baseball? I have witnessed countless occasions where "non-white" experts in a particular subject are ignored as "non-white" Eurocentrists would rather get advice about that subject from a "white" who knows nothing about the subject.....
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« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2021, 10:16:55 pm »
Mainstream journalists now starting to say what we have been saying for ages:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/09/04/us/census-browning-of-america-myth-blake/index.html

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(CNN)Cutting taxes for the rich helps the poor. There is no such thing as a Republican or a Democratic judge. Climate change is a hoax.

Some political myths refuse to die despite all evidence the contrary. Here's another:

When White people are no longer a majority, racism will fade and the US "will never be a White country again."
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It's now taken as a given that the "Browning of America" will lead to the erosion of White supremacy.

I used to believe those predictions. Now I have a different conclusion:

Don't ever underestimate White supremacy's ability to adapt.

The assumption that more racial diversity equals more racial equality is a dangerous myth. Racial diversity can function as a cloaking device, concealing the most powerful forms of White supremacy while giving the appearance of racial progress.

Racism will likely be just as entrenched in a browner America as it is now. It will still be White supremacy, with a tan.
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Why do so many racial groups gravitate toward Whiteness? The answer is both pragmatic and psychological.

It's due to a racial hierarchy that places Whiter-looking people at the top and darker-skinned people at the bottom of the socio-economic ladder.


"Sometimes looking White puts money directly into your pockets," says Tanya K. Hernandez, author of the forthcoming book "Racial Innocence: Unmasking Latino Anti-Black Bias and The Struggle for Equality."

"You get access to jobs, opportunities and being viewed as competent. But there's also a psychological benefit, that feeling of having enhanced status, of being part of Whiteness."
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In the 2010 Census, for example, researchers discovered that some 1.2 million Americans who had identified as "Hispanic, Latino or Spanish origin" a decade earlier had changed their race from "some other race" to "white."
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The future of Whiteness in America may rest with Latino people.

It could go either way. A study suggests that Latino identity fades across successive generations as immigrant connections fade away. If large numbers of Latino people identify as White in the future, Whiteness will expand. The enhanced status and socio-economic benefits that come from identifying as White will be too tempting for many to ignore.
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The link between Whiteness and status is already a reality in some Latin American countries.

In places like Brazil and Cuba, mixed-race people and interracial marriages are common. Latin Americans tend to think of themselves not in terms of race, but nationality.

Yet discrimination against darker-skinned and indigenous people is common there and many other Latin American countries. There's still a widespread belief that the Whiter a person looks, the better it is for them.

These countries offer proof that a country can have a large and expanding population of Black, brown and multiracial people -- and still be governed by the same racial hierarchy that gave us slavery and colonialism.


Consider Brazil. It is home to more people of African heritage than any country outside Africa, and roughly 40% of Brazilians identify as mixed race.

But many Brazilians' economic and educational prospects are still shaped by colorism -- the notion that a person's inherent worth is determined by their skin color, according to an article in Foreign Policy that looked at the country's racial landscape. Some 80% of the country's one-percenters are white, the article said.

"Today, Brazilians see themselves as falling across a spectrum of skin colors with a dizzying assortment of names: burnt white, brown, dark nut, light nut, black, and copper," Cleuci De Oliveira wrote in the article. "What ultimately binds these definitions together is an awareness that the less 'black' a person looks, the better."
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while racism is banned by law in Cuba, it is "alive on the streets." The country's Afro-Cuban population is still locked out of most elite circles, which are dominated by Anglo-looking Cubans.

"What you have is a very highly educated Afro-Cuban population and yet there's a glass ceiling," says Hernandez, who is also a professor at the Fordham University School of Law in New York City. "There's still a penalty for Blackness where it can only reach so high."

What's happened in some Latin American countries can easily happen in the United States. There will be cosmetic changes in our racial makeup -- more Black, brown and multiracial people. But the dominant group will remain White people, however they may be defined by 2045.

We will have arrived at one what one sociologist calls the "Latin-Americanization of race" in the US. There will be more, not less, racial inequality in the US because people will cite the nation's growing diversity to "drown out" those voices of darker-skinned people still fighting for racial justice
, says Eduardo Bonilla-Silva, author of "Racism without Racists: Color-Blind Racism and the Persistence of Racial Inequality in America."
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Multiracial people will not save America

Some people pin their hopes for a more racially tolerant future on multiracial people. That issue hits even closer to home for me.
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We're often described as the vanguard of a new racial order in which interracial couples and their children will chip away at White supremacy until it collapses.
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But the explosive growth of Americans who now identify as multiracial could also be used to reinforce racial inequality.

How? It depends on how we check the box.

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There has long been a debate in the multiracial community, though, about how we express ourselves. Some say we shouldn't confine our choice to the Black box but should instead select "some other race" -- or even White.

That debate erupted at the dinner table with my father one day. When I told him that I define myself as Black, he dropped his fork in anger and raised his voice.
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Here's the hard truth we must face about the future: We may live someday in an America where there are no racial majorities, but Whiteness can still reign supreme.

Nothing will change, though, unless we go after the racial hierarchy that makes Whiteness such an exclusive club.
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It will ultimately require that we discard the modern notion of race, the biological fiction that there is something called a "Black person" or a "White person" or an "Asian person."

Thank you for finally using "". Why did you not use them throughout the article, but only now?

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The modern concept of race has been used too long to enslave and exploit. As Audre Lorde, the poet and activist, once said, "The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house."

This important principle also applies to how to defeat Yahweh. But that is a separate discussion.

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We can't get there, though, if we continue to underestimate the resilience of White supremacy. It is a shapeshifter that can adapt to any environment.
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The US may indeed become a majority minority country around 2045. We may become a rainbow nation of varying racial identities, skin tones and interracial unions.

But if we don't dismantle the racial hierarchy that gives status and power to Whiteness, this new version of America won't really be new.

It'll be just another updated version of White supremacy -- with a tan.

Exactly. Or, in our wording, Eurocentrists - of all ethnic backgrounds - are the real problem.

But unlike relativists/egalitarians, we believe you cannot get rid of one racial hierarchy without replacing it with a better one. This is why anti-Eurocentrism needs Aryanism.