Author Topic: Social decolonization  (Read 1735 times)

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Social decolonization
« on: November 19, 2020, 10:24:19 pm »
OLD CONTENT

Another field of decolonization we need to be aware of concerns modes of present-day social interaction and interpersonal conduct, which is heavily based on Western social norms as a consequence of the colonial era. Please post whatever you notice around you in daily life which falls under this category.

As a romantic, one thing that I have always intuitively despised is people dating again after widowhood. It is betrayal of the deceased spouse. I first noticed this phenomenon during childhood when I watched dating game shows on TV featuring widowed old people, which seemed like a celebration of a phenomenon which I had previously (naively) presumed should at the very least be considered shameful. But then I started doing research and realized that Western marriage vows tacitly endorse this behaviour by implying that the vow ends with the death of either spouse:

www.theknot.com/content/traditional-wedding-vows-from-various-religions

Quote
Basic Protestant Vows

"I, ___, take thee, ___, to be my wedded husband/wife, to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, till death do us part, according to God's holy ordinance; and thereto I pledge thee my faith [or] pledge myself to you."

Episcopal

"______, wilt thou have this woman/man to be thy wedded wife/husband to live together after God's ordinance in the Holy Estate of matrimony? Wilt thou love her/him? Comfort her/him, honor and keep her/him, in sickness and in health, and forsaking all others keep thee only unto her/him as long as you both shall live?"

"In the name of God, I, ______, take you, ______, to be my wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and health, to love and to cherish, until we are parted by death. This is my solemn vow."

Methodist

"Will you have this woman/man to be your wife/husband, to live together in holy marriage? Will you love her/him, comfort her/him, honor, and keep her/him in sickness and in health, and forsaking all others, be faithful to her/him as long as you both shall live?"

"In the name of God, I, ______, take you, ______, to be my wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, until we are parted by death. This is my solemn vow."

Presbyterian

"______, wilt thou have this woman/man to be thy wife/husband, and wilt thou pledge thy faith to him/her, in all love and honor, in all duty and service, in all faith and tenderness, to live with her/him, and cherish her/him, according to the ordinance of God, in the holy bond of marriage?"

"I, ______, take you, ______, to be my wedded wife/husband, and I do promise and covenant, before God and these witnesses, to be your loving and faithful husband/wife, in plenty and want, in joy and in sorrow, in sickness and in health, as long as we both shall live."

Lutheran

"I take you, ______, to be my wife/husband from this day forward, to join with you and share all that is to come, and I promise to be faithful to you until death parts us."
...
Catholic Wedding Vows

"I, ___, take you, ___, for my lawful wife/husband, to have and to hold from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and health, until death do us part."
...
Eastern Orthodox Wedding Vows

Many branches of the Orthodox church use silent vows during the ceremony -- an introspective prayer in which the couple promises to be loyal and loving to each other. In the Russian tradition, however, vows are spoken out loud:

"I, ___, take you, ___, as my wedded wife/husband and I promise you love, honor and respect; to be faithful to you, and not to forsake you until death do us part. So help me God, one in the Holy Trinity and all the Saints."

Wtf? If love ends with physical death of the (supposed) beloved, it was never love at all! Yet the above Western barbarism is what gets recited millions of times per day, now even in secular weddings in originally non-Western (but Westernized) countries, taken for granted as the standard format. This is unacceptable.

I have also encountered numerous instances of fictional portrayals of characters starting new "romances" (oxymoron) after widowhood, cast in a positive light. (And in real life it is even more degenerate, with Westerners openly talking like: "I would definitely pursue [name] if my husband/wife died." even while their spouses are still alive!)

In contrast, non-Western civilizations at least culturally looked down on such behaviour (despite its inevitable occurrence in practice due to the inferiority of the majority of all historical populations), and instead venerate (at least in fiction) the opposite behavious ie. continuing fidelity to the deceased spouse. This is what we need to get back to.

WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!

---

On that, I never understood how someone could have more than one romantic companion in general. I know a sizable amount of people who've had at least five "girlfriends"/"boyfriends" throughout their lives, and I know that this isn't uncommon... Like how do people split up all that lifeforce and feeling? At what point does having a relationship with someone just become a mere hobby?

Also: strip clubs need to be purified with fire. Another Western tradition I know of is when a Groom goes to a stripclub the night before getting married in a "bachelor party". This comedy skit that I watched a few years back pretty much sums it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUuFsfdGrYw

---

"I never understood how someone could have more than one romantic companion in general."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monogamy#Serial_monogamy

Quote
A pair of humans may remain sexually exclusive, or monogamous, until the relationship has ended and then each may go on to form a new exclusive pairing with a different partner. This pattern of serial monogamy is common among people in Western cultures.[90][91]
...
in order to monopolize periods of more than one female’s reproductive life span without being considered polygamous and thus breaking social norms of a monogamous society, males try to remarry women younger than themselves. A study done in 1994 found a significant difference between ages of remarried men and women because the men have a longer reproductive window.[92][93]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keturah

Quote
Keturah (Hebrew: קְטוּרָה, Ktura, possibly meaning "incense"[1]) was a concubine[2] and wife[3] of the Biblical patriarch Abraham. According to the Book of Genesis, Abraham married Keturah after the death of his first wife, Sarah. Abraham and Keturah had six sons.[3]

I remember watching Titanic in which we are sold a supposed story of true love, and yet we are told that after Jack died Rose went and married some other guy, which totally cheapened the main arc in my mind. (From a more detached perspective it's still a good movie, though, in the sense that it accurately reflects colonial-era Westerners' low standards of romance and their own obliviousness to this. The only question is whether or not this was intentional. (Considering that Cameron himself married five times, probably not.))

What annoys me is when rightists claim that romantic love is exclusive(!!!) to Western civilization.....

"how do people split up all that lifeforce and feeling?"

I have always maintained that anyone who reproduces with their supposed romantic partner does not truly love the partner, as attention would have to be thereafter diverted to the children. (This is one example of how romanticism complements Gnosticism.)

"Another Western tradition I know of is when a Groom goes to a stripclub the night before getting married in a "bachelor party"."

Yes, but at least this one isn't glorified in art (at least as far as I have encountered). The comedy skit that you posted portrays it as is something to laugh at, which is where it should remain.

"strip clubs need to be purified with fire."

There is a difference between despising something and believing it should be made illegal. The latter, being violent, requires a much higher standard of justification, specifically that it is retaliation to an initiated violence. Strip clubs do not initiate violence so long as everything that goes on there is voluntary. To make illegal what is not violent is totalitarianism, a charge which we as autocrats must take especial care to avoid.

I have no problem with strip clubs existing, as they can function as a quality filter by observing who its customers are. For example, anyone with dignity would surely cancel a marriage if the potential spouse was willing to go to a strip club the night before. But if strip clubs did not exist, the same person would be denied the information that their potential spouse was someone who would do this (because the option to do so would be unavailable), and thus end up erroneously marrying someone who would have been rejected if only more information had been available.

---

"The positive views on polygamy is not restricted to Western civilisation, nor is re-marriage after death restricted to Christianity. In Islam, for instance, polygamy is condoned"

Are you here solely to waste my time? Polygamy, like it or not, is at least candid. Serial monogamy, in contrast, is an irreverent mockery of what monogamy is supposed to be. Multiple simultaneous spouses of the same person at least get to know for sure that their spouse does not love (any of) them exclusively, and hence respond accordingly based on accurate information (same as the person whose spouse goes to a strip club bachelor party). There is no deception going on. On the other hand, the spouse of a serial monogamist is successfully fooled until death into believing their spouse loves them exclusively, and hence respond lifelong based on an incomplete impression. Which is worse?

Moreover, voluntary monogamy in a society where polygamy is legal is of greater romantic significance than monogamy in a society where polygamy is illegal, as the monogamous couple in the former case can confirm that their spouse is not merely tolerating monogamy for the sake of avoiding legal repercussions. For this reason, a society in which polygamy is legal is actually more romance-friendly than a society in which polygamy is illegal. (So here too we see how the Western civilization has been diluting romance around the world by promoting the outlawing of polygamy!)

---

I've never dated, or been in a relationship. I've always been repulsed by both notions. I would make an exception for someone very special, and if that person died before me I'd probably never do either again.

When I hear most westerners talk about relationships it literally makes me physically nauseous!

---

Parents with low self-esteem condition their offspring to be social Westerners:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WD_lNadkm4

Watching the children - victims of their colonized parents and the neocon teachers - in their colonial-era Western outfits affecting colonial-era Western mannerisms is just depressing. Handshakes are notoriously unhygienic. Knives and forks are for meat-heavy diets. And the walking style is a bad joke.

That teacher being interviewed is bullshitting, of course. Since when did "abroad" mean exclusively the West? Why must "adaptation" to "an international environment" be Eurocentric? Where are the classes on Islamic etiquette, for example? And even if such classes existed, would these same parents pay for them? (We all know the answers.)

True Left employers/contractors/clients/etc. should wherever possible deliberately reject prospective employees/businesses/etc. who display Western etiquette in favour of those who do not. WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!

---

More dripping Eurocentrism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow7KcAYtmSw

All civilizations around the world have their own locally developed domestic help style dating back to ancient times. Yet formerly colonized peoples overwhelmingly want to perpetuate the Western style even in their own countries. This is becoming so predictable.....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler#The_modern_butler

Quote
MacPherson emphasises that the number of wealthy people in China has increased particularly, creating in that country a high demand for professional butlers who have been trained in the European butlering tradition.[15] There is also increasing demand for such butlers in other Asian countries, India, and the petroleum-rich Middle East.[16][17]

WTF is wrong with them all?!?!

They should all watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x02enMJDeKM

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter


90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2020, 10:32:26 pm »
OLD CONTENT contd.

news.yahoo.com/japan-set-celebrate-emperor-naruhitos-090018643.html

Quote
TOKYO (AP) — Japan is abuzz ahead of a ceremony Tuesday marking Emperor Naruhito's ascension to the Chrysanthemum Throne.
...
Tuesday's ceremony allows Naruhito to proclaim himself Japan's 126th emperor in a ritual dating back to the 7th century.

Historians say the modern enthronement rituals are largely meant to allow the government to showcase the monarchy to win public support and to preserve the country's cultural heritage.

Western-style banquets and a procession have been added to "to bolster national prestige and influence. The Imperial family's own events used to be more modest," said historian and monarchy expert Eiichi Miyashiro, who is also a journalist.



---

A small win:

www.newidea.com.au/meghan-markle-wants-prince-harry-to-give-up-long-time-hobby

Quote
The Duchess of Sussex is said to have banned her husband from hunting - a sport he and several members of the royal family enjoy.

Speaking with the UK's Radio Times, friend of the Sussexes Dr Jane Goodall revealed Meghan holds considerable influence over Harry.

When the publication indicated to the Dr that Harry and his brother Prince William are champions of the natural world, she interjected: "Yes except they hunt and shoot."

Yes, that is how Westerners do it - hunt everything except "endangered species", while forcing "endangered species" to reproduce until they become populous enough for Westerners to start hunting them again without fear of species extinction:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/

Quote
However, his hunting days may already have come to an end, as he's known to have already given up going on one hunt for the sake of his marriage.

It has been claimed that Prince Harry did not participate in the traditional Boxing Day royal family hunt two years ago as he did not want to “upset” Meghan Markle.

The family usually shoot pheasants, partridges, and sometimes ducks on their 8000-hectare estate in Norfolk.

A source told The Sun at the time: “Harry loves [hunting] and has always been out there on Boxing Day.

“But if it means breaking with long-standing royal traditions to avoid upsetting [Meghan], so be it.

“It’s fair to say that there are some pretty stunned faces around here.” They added.

---

Is Meghan a non-Westerner? I have seen a great degree of racist vitriol directed toward her from rightists...

---

She seems to have been brought up in Counterculture thinking to some degree, but more information is required to say for sure.

---

Update:

www.thesun.co.uk/news/11557382/prince-harry-flogs-rifles-please-meghan/

Quote
PRINCE Harry has flogged his handmade hunting rifles after giving up bloodsports to please wife Meghan.

A fellow hunter bought the pair of prized Purdey firearms, thought to be worth at least £50,000, in a private deal.

Harry learnt to shoot as a child and once killed a one-ton buffalo.
...
Harry shot dead the water buffalo in ­Argentina in 2004 during his gap year — and he and William hunted wild boar in Spain in 2014.

And in 2017, while engaged to Meghan, Harry and his friends killed 15 wild boar in Germany.

Let's think for a moment: if you are sincerely against hunting, would you sell hunting equipment to other hunters so that they can use it to hunt? (Surely it would be more appropriate to destroy it, preferably in public?)

This proves that Harry was not just a prisoner of Windsor upbringing. He is genetic trash merely being pressured to behave contrary to his blood memory.

---

So Kim has reappeared in public after weeks of uncertainty. But this brings me to another point. He reappeared to do a ribbon-cutting ceremony:



Here is the history of ribbon-cutting:

tedium.co/2018/05/01/ribbon-cuttings-ceremonial-scissors-history/

Quote
The earliest examples of ribbon-cutting ceremonies I can find are in relation to boat or dock christenings, around the late 19th century in the United Kingdom. These christening ceremonies, which generally involved the smashing of wine bottles against the ship and at times involved ribbon, but not necessarily the cutting of said ribbon, as highlighted in a passage from Nathaniel Hawthorne’s English Notebooks, in which the bottle was simply thrown. Christening ceremonies go back far longer than ribbon-cutting ceremonies, but the wine bottle smashing only became a thing about a century before.

One particularly notable early incident involving the cutting of a ribbon, involving Alexandra of Denmark, then the Princess of Wales, involved the opening of Alexandra Dock in Liverpool.

In short, Western. So I have this to give to Kim to mark his official return to public life:



What good are your non-Western clothes (for which you do deserve some credit) if you are going to wear them to participate in Western rituals?
« Last Edit: November 19, 2020, 10:39:20 pm by 90sRetroFan »

guest5

  • Guest
Re: Western civilization is a health hazard
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2020, 01:21:44 am »
Japan: The Age Of Social Withdrawal
Quote
As the coronavirus pandemic plunged the world into lockdown, for many in Japan the social isolation that was imposed was nothing out of the ordinary. Why have so many in Japan become socially withdrawn - even before the pandemic?
Quote
The Japanese government estimates that around one million Japanese people live in social isolation. In Tokyo, 54-year old Kenji lives a reclusive life because he feels out of place in Japanese society: 'It's a sense or feeling that you shouldn't be here.' Meanwhile, in Ibaraki prefecture, another reclusive man searches for a job - but 14 years of withdrawal makes this a challenge. 'Networks, connections and experience... These are things that matter in Japan'. Children, too, are withdrawing, overwhelmed by a strict schooling system - which has led to NGOs setting up alternative educational institutions. 'Telling them to go back to work or go back to school straight away is not the way,' explains a leader of one education centre.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1uhyM7gN50

Quote
Along with australia, the US, Canada and western Europe. Generally Japan is considered western in this regard. ... Japan has it's own rich history, like many countries, so despite western influence, Japan is still Japanese. Japan has always adapted the outside world to itself retaining it's identity.
https://www.quora.com/Is-Japan-western

Quote
Japan, which had isolated itself from international politics in the Tokugawa period (1600-1868), enters an international system of the late 1800s where imperialism colonialism dominates.
Quote
Reform-minded samurai, reflecting the enormous changes that have taken place in the preceding Tokugawa period, effect political change. They launch the reform movement under the guise of restoring the emperor to power, thereby eliminating the power of the shogun, or military ruler, of the Tokugawa period. The emperor's reign name is Meiji; hence the title, "Meiji Restoration" of 1868.
The Japanese carry out this modernization by very deliberate study, borrowing, and adaptation of Western political, military, technological, economic, and social forms — repeating a pattern of deliberate borrowing and adaptation seen previously in the classical period when Japan studied Chinese civilization (particularly in the 7th century to 8th century).
http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2020, 03:31:35 am »
"The Japanese carry out this modernization by very deliberate study, borrowing, and adaptation of Western political, military, technological, economic, and social forms"

And this is what happened to its population as a result:



If Japan can get back to its 1700s population, I guarantee people will feel less withdrawn. If it can toss out its social Westernization, they will feel even better. They should keep the Counterculture stuff, of course (the best part begins at 3:23):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DSZBgJVz30
« Last Edit: November 23, 2020, 03:44:26 am by 90sRetroFan »

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2021, 09:12:18 pm »
Nice!

https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/prince-william-reportedly-sad-shocked-145100370.html

Quote
Last week, Buckingham Palace released its statement about Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's royal exit becoming permanent—and what that meant for their remaining titles and patronages. Specifically, Harry is being stripped of his honorary military titles and both the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are being removed from their official royal patronages.
...
In response, Harry and Meghan released a brief (and widely-interpreted as tense) statement of their own. "As evidenced by their work over the past year, The Duke and Duchess of Sussex remain committed to their duty and service to the U.K. and around the world, and have offered their continued support to the organizations they have represented regardless of official role. We can all live a life of service. Service is universal," a spokesperson for the couple said.

Harry and Meghan's statement has reportedly upset some in royal circles—including Harry's brother, Prince William. According to a Sunday Times report, William is "really sad and genuinely shocked" by the statement, which another source close to the royal family described as "petulant and insulting to the Queen."

Explaining the outrage the Sussexes' statement has stirred up within royal circles, another source close to the situation said, "You don’t answer the Queen back—it’s just not done." According to Page Six, William isn't alone and other members of the royal family are also "stunned" not just by the fact that Harry and Meghan publicly replied to the Palace's statement, but by the tone of the statement their spokesperson shared.

Answering back to Elizabeth is just the beginning. One day Elizabeth or her heirs will have to answer for all the violence ever committed by the British Empire on their colonial victims.

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2021, 03:25:24 am »
Time to revisit an issue mentioned earlier. Our enemies are claiming monogamy as Western. No, outlawing polygamy (thereby driving it underground, thus adding deception into the issue) is Western:

https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2021/02/whites-invented-family-10.html

Quote
Whites invented monogamy and therefore they must be credited with inventing the family

Monogamous couples existed in all civilizations. The difference is that non-Western civilizations never outlawed polygamy, because they at least understood that the state should stay out of people's private lives.

Polygamy involving consent of all parties involved involves no violence. Prohibiting non-violent behaviour is initiated violence. Therefore prohibiting polygamy is initiated violence. Therefore Western civilization initiates more violence (no surprises!) than non-Western civilizations on this issue also.

In societies where polygamy is legal, someone who wants a monogamous marriage can require a potential spouse to sign a legally binding contract stipulating that they are to be each other's only spouse. Such contracts do not affect anyone else, so those who prefer a polygamous marriage can also have the arrangement they prefer. By crudely outlawing polygamy wholesale as Western civilization does), however, people who prefer polygamy are oppressed.

Again I must repeat that I personally look down on polygamists, but firstly looking down on someone is no reason to initiate violence against them, and secondly I would rather polygamists be out in the open so that I know whom to look down on. Under Western civilization, actual polygamists hide their extramarital affairs and feign monogamy in public, thus making it harder to spot (and revere) the genuine monogamists. Thus Western civilization screws up everything. As usual.

Duchesne even inadvertently admits that monogamy is oppressive:

Quote
young females will have a larger pool of males to choose husbands from than would be available in a society where monogamy was the law.

In other words, outlawing monogamy reduces female choice. (This by itself is already a concession to my long-held assertion that Western civilization is more sexist than non-Western civilizations.)

And Duchesne openly admits that Western civilization is oppressive:

Quote
All other peoples on the earth remained attached to their psychological predisposition for polygamy until the monogamous West awoke them from their biological slumber with their incredible economic success and military expansion, forcing them to adopt monogamous institutions.

No, all other peoples remained attached to their unrestricted ability to choose either monogamy or polygamy according to their own individual preferences until the violently polygamy-outlawing West violently colonized them.

Duchesne even lets us know what he really cares about:

Quote
In chapter 8 he further observed "that monogamous marriage norms...create a range of social and psychological effects that give the societies that possess them a big edge in competition against other groups" (263).

Yes, outlawing polygamy is a highly effective tribal strategy. Yes, by outlawing polygamy, Western civilization gave the "white" tribe the edge required to colonize around the world. This is what makes Western civilization uniquely inferior.

Quote
While Greek monogamy limited each male citizen to a single wife, it was considered acceptable to import sex slaves, and wealthy men did. This approach is interesting because it addresses one of the fundamental social dilemmas posed by  polygynous marriage systems, by keeping local women available to poor men for marriage (avoiding the problems created by poor unmarried males) while at the same time allowing rich men broad access to "imported" women.

This also happened during the colonial era. To rephrase, Western civilization oppresses:

1) "white" women by forcing them to marry poor "white" men;
2) "non-white" women by forcing them to be sex slaves for rich "white" men so that the rich "white" men would leave more "white" women for the poor "white" men;
3) "non-white" men by turning them into the new class of poor unmarried males (taking the place of the poor "white" men).

Western civilization is basically extremely violent redistribution of sexual resources to the ultimate advantage of poor "white" men. (Guess which group is the predominant rightist demographic!)

Quote
Solon’s laws provided for "state-subsidized brothels staffed with cheap and therefore readily available female prostitutes" in order to alleviate the polygynous inclination of men. This fact does not negate the monogamous character of ancient Greece since children born outside a monogamous marriage were not recognized as biological members of the household and were excluded from any inheritance. Prostitution and concubinage was "a substitute for polygyny by the wealthy".

Let's also consider: if you were someone's wife, would you prefer your husband to visit prostitutes (who also have sex with many other men) or have other wives whom you can at least try to ensure do not have sex with other men? On STD considerations alone, the answer is obvious.

Nevertheless, despite his very own words exposing utter Western inferiority at every turn, Duchesne has the hubris to sum up:

Quote
Europeans were the only people in history to rise above the evolved animalistic impulses for polygamy to which the other races of the world remained entrapped until they were taught otherwise by white men.
« Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 03:49:16 am by 90sRetroFan »

guest5

  • Guest
Re: Cancel Culture
« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2021, 08:28:31 pm »
Piers Morgan's ROYAL MELTDOWN Over Meghan & Harry Interview
Quote
The Duchess of Sussex told Oprah Winfrey in a bombshell interview Sunday that the monarchy had “concerns and conversations” during her pregnancy with son Archie about the baby’s skin color. It was suggested to her husband Prince Harry that Archie’s being “too brown” could be a problem, she said. The family denied Archie the title of prince ― granted to Prince William and Duchess Kate’s boys George and Louis ― and refused to grant the child a high level of security, the couple said."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxbwVyrwMi4

Meghan And Harry Tell-All In Shocking Interview With Oprah
Quote
In a wide-ranging Sunday interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan Markle and Prince Harry revealed a troubling allegation about the royal family's views about race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkJG0SKM2z4

Ben Shapiro Says Meghan Markle Lied About Royal Racism
Quote
Ben Shapiro says Meghan Markle lied about racism in the Royal Family.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPEonEuWRk&list=TLPQMTEwMzIwMjECobLlTqUSUw&index=2

Meghan complained to ITV about Piers Morgan's comments
Quote
Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, made a formal complaint to British broadcaster ITV relating to Piers Morgan's comments about her mental health, CNN has learned.
ITV announced on that Morgan would leave the program he hosted, "Good Morning Britain," after he cast doubt on whether Meghan had suicidal thoughts, a major revelation from her blockbuster interview with Oprah Winfrey.
"Following discussions with ITV, Piers Morgan has decided now is the time to leave Good Morning Britain," ITV said on Tuesday. "ITV has accepted this decision and has nothing further to add."
CNN understands that Meghan's complaint to ITV concerned the impact Morgan's comments could have on others and how it could degrade the seriousness of mental health issues. The complaint did not relate to the personal nature of Morgan's attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTuzx3AY2Lg&list=TLPQMTEwMzIwMjECobLlTqUSUw&index=4

That settles it for me, I feel Meghan has more noble character than everyone else combined in this post. Too bad she is not a Queen of a country somewhere!!! Meghan would probably be one of the greats.

I also purposely put Chris Cuomo's take under the above sentence....

Cuomo: Why Meghan's interview struck a nerve with the right
Quote
CNN's Chris Cuomo discusses with Van Jones and TheGrio's Natasha Alford why Oprah Winfrey's interview with Duchess of Sussex Meghan has struck a nerve with many conservatives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74C_zkde9CM

The only thing I agree with the host John with in the first segment is his being "fascinated by what other people are fascinated by" comment. I can relate to this, I am also fascinated by what others are fascinated by.

Support pours in after Meghan Markle's allegations against the royal family
Quote
Many people are expressing support for Meghan Markle and Prince Harry after their explosive interview with Oprah Winfrey, during which Markle shared the racist treatment she faced by the royal family.
#MeghanMarkle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kcui8Dt5R1A

rp

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1121
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2021, 01:14:34 am »
Maharaj Padamanabh Singh, Indian "Prince", participates in Western equestrian sports:


Wears western clothing:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-7680911/Maharaja-Padmanabh-Singh-Jaipur-polo-player-500-million-fortune-celebrity-pals.html

guest5

  • Guest
Re: Diplomatic decolonization
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2021, 12:18:28 am »
Māori Lawmaker Performs Haka, Defends Indigenous Rights
Quote
This lawmaker was asked to sit down after defending Indigenous rights in NZ parliament — so he performed a haka instead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l27jpv7nEIo

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2021, 11:51:04 pm »
Homophobia in socially colonized "New China":

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57759480

Quote
A recent crackdown on LGBT accounts on Tencent's popular WeChat platform has divided Chinese social media.

Dozens of such accounts, mostly run by university students, had been deleted on Tuesday night - sparking fears of a tightening control over gay content.

Contrast with the true (pre-colonial) China:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_China

Quote
The earliest records of homosexuality and same-sex relations in China date from the Shang dynasty era (c. 16th to 11th century BCE). The term luan feng was used to describe homosexuality. No records of lesbian relations exist, however. In this time, homosexuality was largely viewed with indifference and usually treated with openness.[9]
...
Homosexuality and homoeroticism were common and accepted during the Han dynasty (202 BCE - 220 CE).
...
Writings from the Liu Song dynasty era (420–479 CE) claim that homosexuality was as common as heterosexuality. It is said that men engaged so often in homosexual activity, that unmarried women became jealous.[3]
...
Chinese homosexuals did not experience persecution which would compare to that experienced by homosexuals in Christian Europe during the Middle Ages, and in some areas, particularly among the merchant classes, same-sex love was particularly appreciated. There was a stereotype in the late Ming dynasty that the province of Fujian was the only place where homosexuality was prominent,[14] but Xie Zhaozhe (1567–1624) wrote that "from Jiangnan and Zhejiang to Beijing and Shanxi, there is none that does not know of this fondness."[14] European Jesuit missionaries such as Matteo Ricci took note of what they deemed "unnatural perversions", distressed over its often open and public nature.[15]

So how did China become homophobic? The last sentence in the above passage offers a clue. Answer:

Quote
Heteronormativity and intolerance of gays and lesbians became more mainstream through the Westernization efforts of the early Republic of China.[5]



When will China stop blindly following Western civilization FFS?
« Last Edit: July 20, 2022, 11:52:58 am by 90sRetroFan »

guest55

  • Guest
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2021, 06:27:41 pm »
Mutabaruka Speaks, "I Find It Weird Black People Reject African Religions"
Quote
In this reasoning, Mutabaruka questions the  people of African descent who reject African religious practices while accepting European religious practices.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mksAactzeRs

One word: Eurocentricism.

See also:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemetism
                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_mythology
                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_African_religions

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2021, 12:34:46 am »
"European religious practices"

To be fair, the Bible (which is what he talks about in the video) is not exactly an example of this. In fact, our New Right enemies are often seen advocating that "whites" should abandon Christianity because the Bible is a "Middle Eastern book":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nouvelle_Droite

Quote
Philosopher Pierre-André Taguieff has distinguished five ideological periods within the history of the ND: the rejection of the Judeo-Christian heritage and the ethnocentric "religion of human rights"; a critique of the liberal and socialist "egalitarian utopias" in the 1970s; a praise of the "Indo-European heritage" and paganism, perceived as the "true religion" of the Europeans
...
As Martin Lee explains,

    By rejecting Christianity as an alien ideology that was forced upon the Indo-European peoples two millennia ago, French New Rightists distinguished themselves from the so-called New Right that emerged in the United States during the 1970s. Ideologically, [the European new Right group] GRECE had little in common with the American New Right, which [the European new Right ideologue] de Benoist dismissed as a puritanical, moralistic crusade that clung pathetically to Christianity as the be-all and end-all of Western civilization.[92]

I fear Mutabaruka might be falling into the same pattern of thinking.

Zea_mays

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 546
    • View Profile
Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2021, 04:02:49 pm »
China keeps Westernizing:

Quote
China’s government banned effeminate men on TV and told broadcasters Thursday to promote “revolutionary culture,” broadening a campaign to tighten control over business and society and enforce official morality.

President Xi Jinping has called for a “national rejuvenation,” with tighter Communist Party control of business, education, culture and religion. Companies and the public are under increasing pressure to align with its vision for a more powerful China and healthier society.
[...]
Broadcasters must “resolutely put an end to sissy men and other abnormal esthetics,” the TV regulator said, using an insulting slang term for effeminate men — “niang pao,” or literally, “girlie guns.”

That reflects official concern that Chinese pop stars, influenced by the sleek, girlish look of some South Korean and Japanese singers and actors, are failing to encourage China’s young men to be masculine enough.

Broadcasters should avoid promoting “vulgar internet celebrities” and admiration of wealth and celebrity, the regulator said. Instead, programs should “vigorously promote excellent Chinese traditional culture, revolutionary culture and advanced socialist culture.”
https://apnews.com/article/lifestyle-entertainment-business-religion-china-62dda0fc98601dd5afa3aa555a901b3f

I wonder to what extent this is obsession with masculinity is driven by communist aesthetics, general Western aesthetics, and non-Western traditionalist Confucian aesthetics?

Although this once again demonstrates how the False Left and Right are both obsessed with masculinity. We have the Alt-Right and the supposed wimpy "soyboy" Chinese communist party fighting with who can be the most masculine.. Facepalm.

guest55

  • Guest
Re: Re: Media decolonization
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2021, 09:06:06 pm »
Quote
Broadcasters must “resolutely put an end to sissy men and other abnormal esthetics,” the TV regulator said, using an insulting slang term for effeminate men — “niang pao,” or literally, “girlie guns.”
I suspect this is what non-revolutionary types sound like when they want to sound revolutionary?



So, apparently the Chinese and Western version of this revolutionary saying would be: "One manly man for all, and all manly men for manly man!".

Yeah, you're right, just doesn't have the same revolutionary ring to it!

I'd take 10 of these:

10 of these:

And a platoon of these:


Over all the masculine men living in the U.S. currently any day of the week and twice on Sundays, and I am willing to bet my revolutionary team will be successful long before all the masculine men in the U.S. even figure out where exactly their elbow's and ****'s even are! They haven't even managed to do that yet FFS!!!



Are the majority of human-beings just clowns or what!?

90sRetroFan

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7411
  • WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!
    • View Profile
Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2021, 02:49:36 am »
"China keeps Westernizing:"

Yep.

Quote
sissy men and other abnormal esthetics

Abnormal compared to what? Western standards? Is this idiot unaware that it is deliberate common practice in Counterculture-era storytelling for the hero to portrayed as less masculine than the villain?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERhANDpBbH4

The CCP guy is apparently oblivious not only to Counterculture-era movies but also to pre-modern literature:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jia_Baoyu

Quote
Jia Baoyu (traditional Chinese: 賈寶玉; simplified Chinese: 贾宝玉; pinyin: Jiǎ Bǎoyù; "Precious Jade", and his surname is a homophone with "false" or "fictitious") is the principal character in the classic 18th century Chinese novel Dream of the Red Chamber.
...
Baoyu is portrayed as having little interest in learning the Confucian classics, much to the despair of his father, Jia Zheng. He would rather spend his time reading or writing poetry and playing with his numerous female relations. He is nonetheless compassionate and thoughtful (perhaps as a juxtaposition onto the other male characters in the novel).

"I wonder to what extent this is obsession with masculinity is driven by communist aesthetics, general Western aesthetics, and non-Western traditionalist Confucian aesthetics?"

In theory, communism should be opposed to masculinity, as a key feature of masculinity is competitiveness, which would sooner or later disrupt a planned economy. But most communists I have encountered do not highlight this point. Instead, it is more common for communists to adopt prole stereotypes of bourgeois men being less masculine than themselves, for which they look down on the bourgeois men.

Confucianism's main concern is maintaining patriarchy on the macro-scale, but would discourage ostentation of masculinity by individuals, in contrast to Western tradition. It is unclear which mode of behaviour the CCP wants more of. To be honest, I doubt they have even thought through the issue properly. Nothing they say seems to have any deep ideological foundation. For example:

Quote
programs should “vigorously promote excellent Chinese traditional culture, revolutionary culture and advanced socialist culture.”

These are mutually exclusive. Promoting one would involve condemning another. But the guy talking doesn't seem to care.

"Although this once again demonstrates how the False Left and Right are both obsessed with masculinity."

I logically deduced that False Leftists valued masculinity the moment they started promoting the term "toxic masculinity" to describe manifestations of masculinity that they dislike, which implies their belief that there also exists a non-toxic version of masculinity.
« Last Edit: September 10, 2021, 02:57:37 am by 90sRetroFan »