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Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2021, 10:23:00 pm »
And then we have to deal with, wait for it.......... a Eurocentrist Turanist (who claims to be a "BLM activist"):

https://www.amren.com/commentary/2021/09/the-horsey-set-goes-woke/ (No, this is the opposite of wokeness! Wokeness would be pointing out that only the racially inferior ride horses recreationally!)

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Dr. Anastasia Curwood is a black woman, a professor of African American studies at the University of Kentucky, and a BLM activist. Jess Clawson is a trans woman with a PhD in education and history, an LBGQT+ activist, and publisher of a digital magazine called The Plaid Horse.

As equestrians (Dr. Curwood has been eventing for 30 years) the two undoubtedly know that equine sports are already diverse. Men and women compete in the same classes. There are no barriers based on color or sexual identity. In recent years, equine sports have included para-equestrians, who were previously excluded because of disabilities. The only real barriers are the costs of horse ownership and competition.

Nevertheless, Drs. Curwood and Clawson pressured USEF into adopting a Diversity and Inclusion Action Plan. Dr. Curwood, who called herself an “external thought leader” in the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion (DEI) discussions, announced some of the plan’s requirements: “ . . . a directive to increased representation of diverse equestrians in advertising and news about USEF . . . a plan to support community riding centers, a new membership category, and an equity audit for USEF rules and regulations . . . .”



Will someone who actually understands BLM please shoot her?

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7426/#msg7426

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7937/#msg7937

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7945/#msg7945

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2021, 10:54:42 pm »
While I always think we have not decolonized enough, our enemies think we have decolonized too much already!

https://www.eurocanadian.ca/2021/10/you-cant-dance.html

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You can’t dance. I know this because I’ve been to enough wedding receptions, socials and bars with dance floors to notice that North Americans don’t know how to dance. They hold their partners and shuffle across the floor, but neither party would know a dance step if it bit them on the ankle.

This is actually quite a change because eighty years ago every Tom, Dick and Harry could do the Fox Trot, the Waltz and the Jitterbug, and plenty more knew the Rumba, the Tango and the Conga, among others.

Western dance is ugly:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/msg6422/#msg6422

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You can’t ride a horse. Oh, you can get up on one with some help, but as soon as your Kentucky thoroughbred starts to trot, you’re in real trouble. To manage this mid-speed step you need to know how to post. Posting involves rising and falling in the saddle in time with the horse’s step. It’s easier on the horse, and much easier on you. Or it would be if you knew how to post, which you don’t.

Horse riding is cruel:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/olympics/msg7937/#msg7937

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Finally, you can’t dress yourself. When I say “dress,” I mean dress like a gentleman. Here goes. First you put on your socks, then your sock garters. What? Sock garters; you have a pair, yes? Then boxer shorts. A T-shirt or vest. A shirt with eyelets for cufflinks. Your trousers with pleats. Your suspenders. Your cufflinks. This is business dress, not fancy dress. Your highly polished Oxfords.

Your tie, tied with a Windsor knot. Your suit vest. You can put your gold pocket watch in the left lower pocket of the vest, and the watch fob through an eyelet with one of the buttons. Now the jacket. Keep one fresh handkerchief for the ladies in a lower pocket and put another in your breast pocket, two points up, or three. This only leaves your wallet, keys, fountain pen, tie-clip (optional), coat, gloves and revolver (optional). Done.

Except how many people have a pocket watch these days? Not many. Cufflinks? Oxfords?

Neckties are ridiculous:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg5817/#msg5817

Cuffs and pleats make ironing annoying:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg5597/#msg5597

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg8011/#msg8011

I'd never even heard of sock garters, but I thank our enemies for informing me about yet another utterly unnecessary Western invention:



And of course I despise leather shoes.

As for pocket watches, did you know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watch

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wristwatches were almost exclusively worn by women - men used pocket watches up until the early-20th century.[23]

so yet another example of Western obsession with maximizing sexual dimorphism.....
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Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2021, 11:51:57 pm »
Finally some people are getting a clue:

https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/how-the-nuclear-family-structure-was-forced-upon-present-day-black-families/

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On the Black Lives Matter website, the organization states: “We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ‘villages’ that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents and children are comfortable.”

This is what we need! Let me also take this opportunity to repost what I posted here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/autism/msg9054/#msg9054

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https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-real-roots-of-the-nuclear-family

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Far from being weaker than an extended family clan, Berger shows, the ordinary nuclear family was able to adapt superbly to changing economic and political realities. In fact, the family arrangement so common to England helps explain why it and other nations of northwest Europe were the birthplace of the Industrial Revolution, the launching ground for modern affluence. The young nuclear family had to be flexible and mobile as it searched for opportunity and property. Forced to rely on their own ingenuity, its members also needed to plan for the future and develop bourgeois habits of work and saving.

(The above map also makes clear that Russia (often excluded from "the West" by mainstream journalism) is in fact socially Western.)

Back to the first link (as always I disagree with the use of the terms "Africa" and "Black"):

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I want to make something very clear: the most brutal social structure that Western civilization has managed to force on the present-day Black family—the African family—is the alienating nuclear family structure. This structure not only eroded the modes that Africans had long thrived on and carried out in their tradition, it drove the production of social and environmental ruin.

Single family homes, suburban blight, gentrification, and commuter and consumer cultures cast billions of tons of climate-changing gases into the atmosphere each year. The nuclear family is competition with one’s neighbours and family, rather than communal living, space-sharing and strength in the face of oppression: it is the erasure of our history; the replication of white supremacy with Black silhouettes.

One reason why I like watching Counterculture-era sitcoms is the depiction of the often unusual but ultimately supportive relationships between the characters that form the main household, which was really a subtle rebellion against the nuclear family and thus against Western civilization.

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Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2021, 05:37:51 am »
Do you agree then that extended families are better than nuclear families, even though they themselves are not perfect?

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2021, 08:34:01 pm »
Yes. Under the extended family model, one house is sufficient for the entire family cycling through generations. Under the nuclear family model, on the other hand, offspring are required to leave after reaching legal adulthood, which means they would need new houses. And whereas expecting to live in the same house generation after generation discourages an excessive number of offspring per generation (or else they would run out of space), expecting offspring to find somewhere new to live removes this discouragement. Thus the nuclear family model is a model designed to generate economic and even populational expansion.

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Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2021, 09:15:07 pm »
How about in terms of reducing parental tyranny? Do you think one is better than the other, or that it varies on a case by case basis?

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« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2021, 10:46:24 pm »
It varies. In the optimistic projection, having other people living in the house at least makes it harder for parental tyranny to be completely hidden from third-party view, and at best could mean more chance that some of them actively intervene to defend the children. It often seems to be the case that uncles/aunts who themselves never reproduced tend to treat the children in the house (their nephews/nieces) much better than those children's parents do. In the pessimistic projection, if the household consists of two or more sets of parents (so now we are talking about uncles/aunts with offspring of their own), the sets of parents could end up engaging in competitive parental tyranny!

(Then again, compulsory schooling often leads to competitive parental tyranny between classmates' parents anyway. So [nuclear family plus compulsory schooling] (the Western combination) would be no better overall than [extended family but no compulsory schooling] (the non-Western combination).

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Re: Social decolonization
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2022, 09:41:35 pm »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10365049/Team-nine-black-climbers-attempt-scale-Mount-Everest-tackle-sports-colonial-history.html

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A team of nine black climbers is attempting to scale Mount Everest to tackle the mountain's 'intentional lack of access for black people' and mountaineering's 'colonial history'.



Western colonialists did it, so False Leftists feel a need to show that the victims of Western colonialism can do the same? (This tacitly implies that you admit the Western colonialists are superior. Even if you manage to climb the same mountain they did, they still did it first, therefore they will remain superior.) The True Left approach is to despise the Homo Hubris hobbies as inferior:

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/close-the-mountain-mt-everest-has-become-the-epitome-of-arrogance/news-story/78b4f97d3e5e531c5b31d80c9c131621

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Climbing Everest is not sport or “living your best life”; it’s become the epitome of heartless, self-serving arrogance.
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Sacks of garbage collected from Mount Everest.
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it has become a grotesque theme park for cashed-up, kitted-up corporates and thrillseekers who see it as a notch on their belt and a post on their Instagram.

The mountain is making monsters out of all of us: the middle-class adventure seekers who clearly think it requires little more training than a Saturday fun run; the companies responsible for this ugly commercialisation of risk; the voyeurs who click on the ever more disturbing photographs and video that pop up each May as the perilously short climbing season gets underway.

Honestly, if we’re trying to rid our oceans of plastic then we’re equally responsible for clearing our tallest peaks of both human detritus and the grievous lack of integrity and care that causes it.

As in so much of life, just because we can doesn’t mean we should.
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Where we should step in is when innocent people or the planet are harmed. When ambition exceeds competency to such an extent that others’ lives are put in jeopardy and the wilderness loses its mystique. Everest is strewn with disused oxygen tanks, broken ladders, frayed ropes and frozen bodies, some of whom belong to the Sherpas who are collateral casualties in Western egotism.

Non-Westerners historically almost never climbed mountains recreationally prior to the colonial era. It is a characteristically Western activity:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountaineering

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In 1757 Swiss scientist Horace-Bénédict de Saussure made the first of several unsuccessful attempts on Mont Blanc in France. He then offered a reward to anyone who could climb the mountain, which was claimed in 1786 by Jacques Balmat and Michel-Gabriel Paccard. The climb is usually considered an epochal event in the history of mountaineering, a symbolic mark of the birth of the sport.[11][13]

By the early 19th century, many of the alpine peaks were reached, including the Grossglockner in 1800, the Ortler in 1804, the Jungfrau in 1811, the Finsteraarhorn in 1812, and the Breithorn in 1813.[11] In 1808, Marie Paradis became the first woman to climb Mont Blanc, followed in 1838 by Henriette d'Angeville.[15]

The beginning of mountaineering as a sport in the UK is generally dated to the ascent of the Wetterhorn in 1854 by English mountaineer Sir Alfred Wills, who made mountaineering fashionable in Britain. This inaugurated what became known as the Golden Age of Alpinism, with the first mountaineering club – the Alpine Club – being founded in 1857.[16][17]

One of the most dramatic events was the spectacular first ascent of the Matterhorn in 1865 by a party led by English illustrator Edward Whymper, in which four of the party members fell to their deaths. By this point the sport of mountaineering had largely reached its modern form, with a large body of professional guides, equipment, and methodologies.[13]

In the early years of the "golden age", scientific pursuits were intermixed with the sport, such as by the physicist John Tyndall. In the later years, it shifted to a more competitive orientation as pure sportsmen came to dominate the London-based Alpine Club and alpine mountaineering overall.[18] The first president of the Alpine Club, John Ball, is considered to be the discoverer of the Dolomites, which for decades were the focus of climbers like Paul Grohmann and Angelo Dibona.[19] At that time, the edelweiss also established itself as a symbol of alpinists and mountaineers.[20][21]

Expansion around the world

In the 19th century, the focus of mountaineering turned towards mountains beyond the Alps, and by the turn of the 20th century, mountaineering had acquired a more international flavour.[22]

In 1897 Mount Saint Elias (18,008 ft (5,489 m)) on the Alaska-Yukon border was summitted by the Duke of the Abruzzi and party.[23] In 1879–1880 the exploration of the highest Andes in South America began when English mountaineer Edward Whymper climbed Chimborazo (20,549 ft (6,263 m)) and explored the mountains of Ecuador.[24] It took until the late 19th century for European explorers to penetrate Africa. Mount Kilimanjaro in Africa was climbed in 1889 by Austrian mountaineer Ludwig Purtscheller and German geologist Hans Meyer, Mount Kenya in 1899 by Halford Mackinder.[25]

The last frontier: The Himalayas

The last and greatest mountain range was the Himalayas in South Asia. They had initially been surveyed by the British Empire for military and strategic reasons. In 1892 Sir William Martin Conway explored the Karakoram Himalayas, and climbed a peak of 23,000 ft (7,000 m). In 1895 Albert F. Mummery died while attempting Nanga Parbat, while in 1899 Douglas Freshfield took an expedition to the snowy regions of Sikkim.[26]

In 1899, 1903, 1906, and 1908 American mountaineer Fanny Bullock Workman (one of the first professional female mountaineers) made ascents in the Himalayas, including one of the Nun Kun peaks (23,300 ft (7,100 m)). A number of Gurkha sepoys were trained as expert mountaineers by Charles Granville Bruce, and a good deal of exploration was accomplished by them.[26]

In 1902 the Eckenstein-Crowley Expedition, led by English mountaineer Oscar Eckenstein and English occultist Aleister Crowley was the first to attempt to scale K2. They reached 22,000 feet (6,700 m) before turning back due to weather and other mishaps. Undaunted, in 1905 Crowley led the first expedition to Kangchenjunga, the third highest mountain in the world, in an attempt described as "misguided" and "lamentable".[26][why?]

Eckenstein was also a pioneer in developing new equipment and climbing methods. He started using shorter ice axes which could be used single-handed, designed the modern crampons and improved on the nail patterns used for the climbing boots.[27]

By the 1950s, all the eight-thousanders but two had been climbed starting with Annapurna in 1950 by Maurice Herzog and Louis Lachenal on the 1950 French Annapurna expedition. The highest of these peaks Mount Everest was climbed in 1953 after the British had made several attempts in the 1920s; the 1922 expedition reached 8,320 metres (27,300 ft) before being aborted on the third summit attempt after an avalanche killed seven porters. The 1924 expedition saw another height record achieved but still failed to reach the summit with confirmation when George Mallory and Andrew Irvine disappeared on the final attempt. The summit was finally reached on 29 May 1953 by Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay from the south side in Nepal.[26]

Just a few months later, Hermann Buhl made the first ascent of Nanga Parbat (8,125 m), on the 1953 German–Austrian Nanga Parbat expedition, a siege-style expedition culminating in a last 1,300 meters walking alone, being under the influence of drugs: pervitin (based on the stimulant methamphetamine used by soldiers during World War II), padutin and tea from coca leaves. K2 (8,611 m), the second-highest peak in the world, was first scaled in 1954 by Lino Lacedelli and Achille Compagnoni. In 1964, the final eight-thousander to be climbed was Shishapangma (8,013 m), the lowest of all the 8,000-metre peaks.[26] Reinhold Messner from the Dolomites was then the first to climb all eight-thousanders up to 1986.[28]

Anyone who thinks this is admirable should be prohibited from reproducing.
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« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2022, 09:37:37 pm »
The only mountain one need ever climb in their lifetime's is the mountain upon which stands the temple of truth!




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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2022, 10:33:34 pm »
Another uniquely (wasteful) Western hobby which we also despise is skydiving:

https://myskydivingfootprint.org/

The only scenario in which non-Westerners would be justified in skydiving would be for military purposes. Civilian skydiving for recreational purposes is barbaric. And Westerners always find a way to make barbarism even more barbaric:


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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2022, 10:48:45 pm »
Not only does it scare the dogs but it also gets you views, which is obviously more important than anything!

Youtuber Possibly Crashed Plane for Views


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Not only was he wearing a parachute which he doesn't usually do, he was also wearing a camera specifically for skydiving on his wrist. Which he uses when he does skydiving usually. He was clearly intending on going skydiving when he took off in that plane and not just spreading ashes or going for a cruise.

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« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2022, 07:20:53 am »


Ascension - a documentary film on China that has reaped several film awards for providing uncomfortable insight into the less than promising implications if the country was to continue on its present path of economic and technological advancement but without awareness of how they've sadly missed the mark for elevation as they aim to measure up to  'Western' etiquette and demeanors for cultural excellence.
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2022, 10:52:37 pm »
OK, I watched the full documentary, and encourage everyone here to do the same (and come back here to discuss it further if you want to). The trailer does not show the worst parts; you really need to see the whole thing. The following review contains a brief description of some of what is included:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/ascension-review-oscar-nominated-doc-221118370.html

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from assembly lines where women prepare silicone sex dolls for demanding clients to private dining rooms where nouveau-riche elites learn how to eat a banana with fork and knife.
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The midsection of the film focuses on those enrolled in various seminars and coaching sessions to improve their standing. Women learn business etiquette, including when to hug and how to smile (pleasantly expose the upper eight teeth), while men study to become butlers or bodyguards.
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Finally, in the film’s last half-hour, Kingdon enters the realm of wealth and leisure, revealing how those with disposable income spend their free time — in video arcades and amusement parks, or educating themselves on fine European cuisine.

(I hardly need to say that the sex dolls are designed to look like "whites".)

This is what happens when improvement is equated with Westernization. I see it as both a lament to how China has utterly failed to avoid the trap of Westernization, and a warning to other formerly colonized countries - which still have a chance to choose - to not go down this same fallen path as China.

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a galling late scene watches an oblivious influencer complaining of possible heat stroke while ignoring the gardener working just a few yards away.

The gardener with the straw hat, bent back, etc. visually looks just like how colonial-era Western propaganda used to stereotype Chinese peasants. Presumably this is the stereotype that the influencer wants (at least subconsciously) to distance herself as far away from as possible. Yet the scene is set up to leave no doubt that the gardener is the relatively more respectable individual (notwithstanding the indignity of having to work on a Western-style lawn:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg5521/#msg5521

signifying the imprisonment within Western forms that even a (perhaps) internally non-Westernized Chinese must now endure.....).

Can China still extricate itself from all this? Possibly (I am not optimistic), but first it must vividly remember what it truly means to be Chinese as understood in ancient times (and re-expressed in Counterculture-era pop music):

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« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2022, 01:19:08 am »
Responding to:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/ancient-candidates-for-socialism/msg12567/#msg12567

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aren't arranged marriages unromantic, since the person in question isn't being given the freedom to potentially find and marry the person that they instinctively know they love enough to pledge life-long loyalty to?

I am against arranged marriages where the subject does not have a choice to turn down the suggestion. (This would be initiated violence, which we are always against.)

The form of arranged marriage which I am claiming is superior to free-market dating is where the subject can turn down as many suggestions as they want. This allows the subject to, in your words, marry the person that they instinctively know they love enough to pledge lifelong loyalty to. But it moreover allows the subject to meet this person while avoiding the thought process of "wanting to find someone" (practically a prerequisite in free-market dating), such avoidance being necessary for romantic love. As I have explained previously, the moment you intentionally set out to find someone, romantic love is already impossible, because whoever eventually fills the vacancy has already been reduced to a vacancy-filler and thus a mere commodity to satisfy your pre-existent desire.

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« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2022, 01:42:22 am »
Yeah, perhaps I should've worded it better. By "find" I mean cross paths with. Not necessarily to go actively looking for. I've read your position on dating apps and anything adjacent before, and it makes sense.