Author Topic: How the Extinction of Ice Age Mammals May Have Forced Us to Invent Civilization (?)  (Read 488 times)

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"many people in the comment section seem to be interpreting it as hunter-gatherer nostalgia"

Yes, as if we didn't have enough problems with losing a large chunk of leftists to progressivism, among the remainder of regressives we lose another large chunk to these guys.

While pro-hunting types are barbarians who should simply be executed, I would be willing to have a respectful conversation with those (vegans) who support a pure gathering lifestyle over a farming one. Some of them have genuinely good intentions, and dislike farming on serious ethical grounds (e.g. ploughing might kill worms etc.). In theory, we should be able to collaborate with these types by convincing them that they have more in common with us than with the pro-hunting types. But in practice they often have anarchist tendencies that both causes them to reject our strong statist position. Without state intervention, however, there will be no organized phasing out of modern complexity, so by not being anti-statists they will never see their ideals realized beyond the scale of intentional communities that will not affect the rest of the world's continuation towards ever-increasing complexity.

"Biologically, it's literally insane to think hunter-gatherers were somehow "egalitarian". The skeletons of Paleolithic hunter-gatherers are easily contrasted to later Neolithic individuals, because the hunter-gatherers had quite extreme sexual dimorphism."

Even more obviously, do non-cannibalistic hunters treat prey species as "equals" to their own?

It is farming habitats that permits evolution away from tribalism. Contrast the attitude of the universalist farm-evolved chicken with that of the tribalist wild-evolved eagle:

https://ng.opera.news/ng/en/pets/da8548d583e3d5764107aea63139b2e9

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He took an eagles egg and placed it in the chickens next, he also too the hens egg and dropped it in the eagles nest
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soon after the egg harshed the eagle immediately noticed the strange creature amongst them and could not forgive the farmer, she sidelined the hens chicks and will only give food to her biological chicks.

The hen on the other hand took in the eagles chick and treat it as if it were her own, chickens have great maternal abilities and very good at raising babies.



https://w0.peakpx.com/wallpaper/662/883/HD-wallpaper-impartial-love-hay-chick-sleeping-cute-hen-warmth-love-puppy-impartial.jpg

(By the way, how Western civilization treats chickens is covered here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/msg72/#msg72 )

But ultimately, there is no way round the need for us to debunk egalitarianism itself in order to turn leftist attention towards the far more meaningful ideal of universalism (which does not require belief in egalitarianism). As I have mentioned in the past, someone who must first believe two people are equal in order to treat them fairly is in effect admitting that if in fact they were not equal then they indeed have no reason to be treated fairly. Someone like that is not a universalist. But at present most people cannot tell the two apart.
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