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Padania vs Saturnia
« on: January 27, 2021, 11:50:02 pm »
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www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8348963/First-study-Italians-genetic-diversity-reveals-dates-19-000-years-ago.html

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The study shows that northern and southern Italians evolved differently over time due to contrasting environmental and ecological circumstances that resulted in the peculiarities of their gene pools.
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The team identified traces of post-glacial migrations in those living in northern Italy, who also presented a close relation to ancient European cultures such as the Magdalenian and the Epigravettian - these groups were mainly situated in what is now France and Spain.

Giants and early Pelasgians.

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On the other hand, southern Italians were found to have a close relation with Neolithic human remains from Anatolia, modern-day Turkey, and the Middle East, and with Bronze-Age remains from south Caucasus - a region that extends into Africa.

Trojans and Saturnians, as I predicted long before this study was done.

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Marco Sazzini, one of the principal investigators of this study and professor of molecular anthropology at the University of Bologna, said: 'Gaining an understanding of the evolutionary history of the ancestors of Italians allows us to better grasp the demographic processes and those of environmental interactions that shaped the complex mosaic of ancestry components of today's European populations.'

'This investigation provides valuable information in order to fully appreciate the biological characteristics of the current Italian population.'

No kidding! You think it is pure coincidence that Salvini is from the north and Lucano is from the South?

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The DNA of people living in northern Italy shows traces of these post-glacial migrations.

They also have links to ancient European cultures that lived in mostly in what is now France and Spain.

However, the team uncovered ancestry components even more ancient from eastern European hunter-gathers that walked the Earth 36,000 to 26,000 years ago.

This group later on spread to western Europe with migratory movements from 'glacial refugia' during the Late Glacial period.

Yep.

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After analyzing the genomes of the southern Italian participants, researchers discovered that the post-glacial migrations traces were not present and noted that more recent events significantly reshaped their gene pool.

This group has closer genetic relations with Neolithic human remains from what is now Turkey and the Middle East.

There are also traces with the Bronze-Age remains that were uncovered in northern parts of Africa.

'Differently from the north of Italy, the south was a main hub for migratory movements, which first spread agriculture to the Mediterranean area during the Neolithic transition, and then, during Bronze Age, fostered a new ancestry component,' the team explained.

The Turkey part would have been the Aeneas expedition, while the Middle East part would have been the original Saturn expedition.

aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/rutuli-2017/

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'Some scholars have linked some of these genetic variants with a reduced susceptibility to Berger's disease, which is a common inflammation affecting the kidneys and is indeed less frequent in the south than in the north of Italy.'

When it came to southern Italian peculiarities, the researchers found the genes that modify the production of melanin, which is the pigment that provides skin color.

They believe this occurred due to more intense sunlight and because of a higher number of sunny days are experienced in Mediterranean regions.

These changes may have also contributed to a lower incidence of skin cancers among southern Italians.

Claudio Franceschi, emeritus professor of the University of Bologna, said: 'We observed that some of these genetic variants have been also linked to a longer lifespan.'

'This is also true for other genetic modifications which are characteristic of southern Italians.'

More importantly, the North-South divide continued into the historical era:

aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/support-domenico-lucano/comment-page-1/#comment-180082

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The North-South cultural divide in Italy is an important phenomenon. This is because the Italian Renaissance:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Renaissance

happened almost entirely in Northern Italy and remains the principal historical pride of Northern Italians to this day, which causes them to feel closer to the Northern Renaissance peoples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Renaissance

than to Southern Italians:

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Terrone

Salvini’s former Lega Nord used to be the expression of this feeling, claiming that Northern Italy, which they call Padania:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padania

is closer to its Alpine neighbours than to Southern Italy – I agree with this; besides sharing the Renaissance, they are similarly Pelasgianized! In contrast, Southern Italy was scarcely touched by the Renaissance, so that Southern Italians (consequently better retaining the Roman and ultimately Saturnian outlook) feel closer to the people on the other sides of the Mediterranean than to the people around the Alps.

This explains why Southern Italy is more welcoming of refugees despite being MUCH poorer than Northern Italy. The best thing about this is that it again debunks the popular rightist excuse “Only the rich can afford to host refugees!”, as we already did previously:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/a-review-of-refugee-resettlement-by-numbers/

In fact I might as well quote directly from one of the links I linked to over there:

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Terrone

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Slur for southern Italians. A terrone is exactly the stereotypical wop.

Insult widely used by northern Italians to call those living in the southern (some would even say mid-south) part of Italy.

Northern Italian: "These terroni have given us such a bad name... going around acting like the terroni/wops they are, you see how everyone identifies the entire country with them!?"

Terrone: "We got the sun, pizza, spaghetti and the sea! beautiful italia!"

Northern Italian: "You lowlife terrone! Go back south!"
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A derogatory term for Italians south of Bologna. Literally translated it means "farmer". Northern Italians use the term with contempt for their uneducated, and cultureless brothers of the south of Italy.

Hey, look at that stupid fuckin calabrese. What a terrone. He should bo back to his farm and harvest his fuckin eggplants.
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literally means someone who works on the land (i.e. farmer). Derogatory, used by the pompous people of the Friuli region against any Italian from Rome downwards. "terroni" are the salt of italy's earth. they are the people who give italians a good name abroad.

Please feel welcome to post pictures etc. to highlight contrasts between Padania and Saturnia.
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Re: Padania vs Saturnia
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2021, 12:05:31 am »
Just saying.....


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Re: Padania vs Saturnia
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2022, 10:38:45 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh9b3BNPg_M





(These maps also account for why Spain/Portugal are so bad.)

Not coincidentally:

https://cheftravelguide.com/northern-italian-food-vs-southern/

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In Southern Italy, more olive oil is consumed than in Northern Italy where butter and olive oil are both used.
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In Northern Italy, fresh pasta is usually made with egg while most fresh pasta in Southern Italy simply uses durum wheat and water.
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Re: Padania vs Saturnia
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2023, 09:09:15 pm »
The Nuragic Civilisation of Bronze Age Sardinia
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Three thousand years ago, on the island of Sardinia, flourished a remarkable society.

Right across the island, between about 1800 BC to 800 BC, they constructed around ten thousand astonishing stone structures called nuraghes. The ruins of around 7,000 of these structures can be seen today.

Evidence for the kind of society this was, is also seen in the unique bronze figurines and models that they left behind. Hundreds of these show armoured warriors bearing bows, swords and shields, along with the horned helmets they wore into battle.

This society reached its peak in the late bronze age when their influence spread beyond their home island. Sardinian material culture from this era is found as far away as Crete while at the same time Mycenaean pottery and Cypriot bronzes appear all over Sardinia.

So who were these people? Why did they build thousands of these enormous, complex structures? Were they really as warlike as their figurines suggest? And what happened to them?

This is the story of the Nuragic Civilisation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfdDPl7iLu8

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Sardinia

Prehistory:

Sardinia is one of the most geologically ancient bodies of land in Europe. The island was populated in various waves of immigration from prehistory until recent times.

The first people to settle in Sardinia during the Upper Paleolithic and the Mesolithic came from Continental Europe; Paleolithic inhabitation of the island is demonstrated by the evidences in Oliena's Corbeddu Cave;[38] during the Mesolithic era some populations, particularly from present-day Tyrrhenian coast of Italy, managed to move to northern Sardinia via Corsica.[38] The Neolithic Revolution was introduced in the 6th millennium BC by the Cardial culture coming from the Italian Peninsula. In the mid-Neolithic period, the Ozieri culture, probably of Aegean origin, flourished on the island spreading the hypogeum tombs known as domus de Janas, while the Arzachena culture of Gallura built the first megaliths: circular tombs. In the early 3rd millennium BC, the metallurgy of copper and silver began to develop.

During the late Chalcolithic the so-called Beaker culture, coming from various parts of Continental Europe, appeared in Sardinia. These new people predominantly settled on the west coast, where the majority of the sites attributed to them had been found.[39] The Beaker culture was followed in the early Bronze Age by the Bonnanaro culture which showed both reminiscences of the Beaker and influences by the Polada culture.

As time passed the different Sardinian populations appear to have become united in customs, yet remained politically divided into various small, tribal groupings, at times banding together against invading forces from the sea, and at others waging war against each other. Habitations consisted of round thatched stone huts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinia

Ancient Sardinia | Island of the Giants | Hugh Newman | Megalithomania
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Explore ancient Sardinia in September 2021 with Megalithomania (postponed from June 2020): http://www.megalithomania.co.uk/sardi....  Hugh Newman shares his research on one of the most mysterious islands in the Mediterranean. Sardinia has thousands of megalithic sites, giants graves and evidence of a giant race ruling the island in antiquity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDVa8gs0nOk

Nuragic civilization
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From about 1500 BC onwards, villages were built around a kind of round tower-fortress called nuraghe[40] (usually pluralized as nuraghes in English and as nuraghi in Italian). These towers were often reinforced and enlarged with battlements. Tribal boundaries were guarded by smaller lookout Nuraghes erected on strategic hills commanding a view of other territories.
Today, some 7,000 Nuraghes dot the Sardinian landscape. While initially these Nuraghes had a relatively simple structure, with time they became extremely complex and monumental (see for example the Nuraghe Santu Antine, Su Nuraxi, or Nuraghe Arrubiu). The scale, complexity and territorial spread of these buildings attest to the level of wealth accumulated by the Nuragic Sardinians, their advances in technology and the complexity of their society, which was able to coordinate large numbers of people with different roles for the purpose of building the monumental Nuraghes.
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The Nuraghes are not the only Nuragic buildings that stand in place, as there are several sacred wells around Sardinia and other buildings with religious purposes such as the Giants' grave (monumental collective tombs) and collections of religious buildings that probably served as destinations for pilgrimage and mass religious rites (e.g. Su Romanzesu near Bitti).

At the time, Sardinia was at the centre of several commercial routes and it was an important provider of raw materials such as copper and lead, which were pivotal for the manufacture of the time. By controlling the extraction of these raw materials and by trading them with other countries, the ancient Sardinians were able to accumulate wealth and reach a level of sophistication that is not only reflected in the complexity of its surviving buildings, but also in its artworks (e.g. the votive bronze statuettes found across Sardinia or the statues of Mont'e Prama).

According to some scholars, the Nuragic people(s) are identifiable with the Sherden, a tribe of the Sea Peoples.[41][34]

The Nuragic civilization was linked with other contemporaneous megalithic civilization of the western Mediterranean, such as the Talaiotic culture of the Balearic Islands and the Torrean civilization of Southern Corsica. Evidence of trade with the other civilizations of the time is attested by several artefacts (e.g. pots), coming from as far as Cyprus, Crete, Mainland Greece, Spain and Italy, that have been found in Nuragic sites, bearing witness to the scope of commercial relations between the Nuragic people and other peoples in Europe and beyond.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinia


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One of the so-called Giants of Mont'e Prama

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Re: Padania vs Saturnia
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2023, 07:41:20 pm »
Continuing from: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/the-'black'-and-'white'-identity-politics-scam/msg19255/#msg19255

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"I  feel like the America's are severely lacking in culture"

I disagree:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/pop-culture-studies/

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I shouldn't have said that the America's are severely lacking in culture as this is incorrect and sounds insulting as well. Nonetheless, It's God's will that the spirit of Rome be resurrected on this American Continent, where the kingdom of greatness will be created.

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Re: Padania vs Saturnia
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2023, 08:30:42 pm »
Americans of Italian ancestry can indeed be expected to be more Saturnian than the Italians who stayed in Italy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Americans

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In 1870, prior to the large wave of Italian immigrants to the United States, there were fewer than 25,000 Italian immigrants in America, many of them Northern Italian
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Immigration began to increase during the 1870s, when more than twice as many Italians immigrated than during the five previous decades combined.[14][15] The 1870s were followed by the greatest surge of immigration, which occurred between 1880 and 1914 and brought more than 4 million Italians to the United States,[14][15] the largest number coming from the Southern Italian regions of Abruzzo, Molise, Campania, Apulia, Basilicata, Calabria, and Sicily
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Sicilian Americans are the largest subset of numerous Americans of regional Italian ancestries, with 83% of Italian Americans being descended from Sicily.

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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2023, 04:29:01 pm »
Another example of the "Mediterranean vs Nordic" meme:

I was surprised by how accurate they got the female phenotype ("lanky man jawed freaks) i.e. mixture of cro magnon and trojan blood). Unfortunately, it judges "nordics" as being insufficiently rightist (i.e. non-racist, not adding to "European" culture).
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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2023, 05:25:09 pm »
"I was surprised by how accurate they got the female phenotype ("lanky man jawed freaks)"

Actually, it makes no sense that the Nordic woman would have a heavy jaw but the Nordic man is drawn as lacking one, whereas it is the Mediterranean man who is drawn as having one. All it tells us is that the meme-creator likes heavy jaws on men but not on women.

"Unfortunately, it judges "nordics" as being insufficiently rightist (i.e. non-racist, not adding to "European" culture)."

This is outright inaccurate. We have already highlighted extensively in the past how South Italians have been more welcoming of refugees than North Italians. The Renaissance also began in North Italy, not South Italy. It then spread further northwards, not southwards.

The meme-creator is not a true Mediterraneanist. A true Mediterraneanist would never talk about being a "defender of Europe", but would side with non-"European" Mediterraneans.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2023, 06:32:19 pm »
"This is outright inaccurate. We have already highlighted extensively in the past how South Italians have been more welcoming of refugees than North Italians. The Renaissance also began in North Italy, not South Italy. It then spread further northwards, not southwards."
Perhaps the meme-creator was comparing Scandinavian countries with Mediterranean ones, instead of Northern vs Southern Italy? But even then, it doesn't make sense as we have seen the same degenerate attitudes in countries such as Denmark.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2023, 10:15:35 pm »
"Actually, it makes no sense that the Nordic woman would have a heavy jaw but the Nordic man is drawn as lacking one, whereas it is the Mediterranean man who is drawn as having one. All it tells us is that the meme-creator likes heavy jaws on men but not on women."
The Nordic skull certainly looks subhuman (especially with the the hair loss), but I would say the short skull is more of a reduced type than the average mature nordic type.

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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2023, 02:09:07 pm »
I  would consider the Italians to be fully mediterraneanized only once they have been de-catholized. Similarly, I would only consider those countries on the African side of the mediterranean to be fully mediterraneanized once they been de-judeo-islamized. These two slavish "religions" of human mediocrity must be destroyed, only then can the militaristic, charismatic, expressive, and cultural genius of the mediterranean races be developed to their highest potential, and shine.

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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2023, 05:59:10 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/barbaric-medieval-law-allows-wild-132126686.html

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A new law allowing people to hunt wild boar with bows and arrows in a part of Italy has caused outrage, with critics condemning the practice as barbaric and “medieval”.

The passing of the new legislation in the northern region of Liguria has drawn a vociferous response, with animal rights activists saying it is cruel and arguing that it is almost impossible to kill a boar with an arrow while it is running through forest or scrub. They say it will lead to a “gratuitous massacre” of wild boar.
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Officials in Liguria say an outbreak of African swine fever, which can be transmitted from wild boar to domestic pigs, makes a cull of the species all the more urgent.

“If you think of bows and arrows, you might think of the Apaches, but shooting with a bow is an Olympic discipline and a noble art. The bow is a weapon of precision,” said Alessandro Piana, 51, the vice president of Liguria and the councillor responsible for hunting regulation.
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Mr Piana, a member of the centre-Right League party, said the law was passed with support from centre-Left councillors.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/gentilism/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/

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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2023, 01:50:11 am »


By the way, our enemies academically agree with us (but of course assign value the exact opposite way round):

https://incels.is/threads/are-italians-white-or-ethnics.526077/

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south are much swamthier and likely have inferior arbabic/sand **** mixture.

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North Italians are white
South Italians are ethnic

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Sicilians / Sardinians are mongrel sand **** **** babies
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