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« on: February 07, 2021, 02:45:15 pm »
Haiti protesters demand President Moise step down
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Clashes between the opposition and security forces right next to the presidential palace have become a regular occurrence in Port-au-Prince - as protesters continue to demand President Jovenel Moise step down.
Haiti's constitution says a new president's term begins on February 7 - everyone agrees on that, but not on which year. President Moise says he has another year in office. As far as the opposition is concerned, his time is up this Sunday.

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Re: Haiti
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2021, 10:14:06 pm »
Haiti's president assassinated at home, hunt launched for killers
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Haiti's President Jovenel Moise was killed during an attack on his private residence early on July 7, according to the country's acting Prime Minister Claude Joseph.


Haitian ambassador on fallout from president’s assassination
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ABC News’ Linsey Davis speaks with Haitian Ambassador to the U.S. Bocchit Edmond following the assassination of President Jovenel Moise.

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2021, 10:21:17 pm »
Yep, this is how easy it actually is to execute a successful assassination. All it takes is a firearm. So why not Orban? Why not Salvini? Why not Frederiksen? Think of all the drownings in the Mediterranean (that have been ongoing daily since 2015 FFS!) that could have been prevented with a few well-picked assassinations.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2021, 08:18:02 pm »
And as many of us probably already suspected before it was even announced:
Haiti assassination allegedly involved Americans and retired members of Colombian military, officials say
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The violent fallout from the assassination of Haitiian President Jovenel Moise was evident on Friday near his private residence in the capital of Port-au-Prince.
Burned-out cars, spent bullet casings, bloodstains and bullet-pocked walls were what remained of a shootout between the police and some of the suspected assassins on Route de Kenscoff.
Haitian authorities told CNN that three burned-out cars belonged to members of the armed group who assassinated Moise early Wednesday morning.

The armed group are "professional killers," consisting of more than two dozen people, including two American citizens and retired members of the Colombian military, authorities have said.

But as more details begin to emerge of the people who allegedly killed Moise, little is known about the suspected masterminds and their motivation for the attack.
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The Haitian government on Friday requested US troops to help protect infrastructure, ports, airports and energy systems following the assassination, Elections Minister Mathias Pierre told CNN. Mathias said the request was for a limited number of around 500 troops, and that he anticipated the threat to be "potential mercenaries."
Haitian officials have given conflicting accounts and numbers for those killed following the assassination attack. Citing figures from Haitian police, the office of acting Prime Minister Claude Joseph told CNN that three suspects were killed in a shootout with authorities.
As the pursuit of those responsible intensifies, details have emerged relating to the arrest of 11 armed men in the grounds of Taiwan's embassy in the capital Port-au-Prince on Thursday.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/09/americas/haiti-moise-assassination-july-9-intl-hnk/index.html

Two Americans among suspects arrested for assassination of Haitian president

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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2021, 10:26:34 pm »
At least Twitter commenters are learning to push the conversation in the correct direction:

https://twitter.com/jaydenaaliyah_/status/1413168747666345989

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on today’s episode of white people ruin everything—lessons from Haiti. plz understand that 99% of the modern issues of previously colonized countries of color, are a DIRECT consequence of white people coming in and essentially stripping them for everything they are worth.

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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2021, 09:35:54 pm »
Crowds Swarm U.S. Embassy in Haiti After President Jovenel Moise's Assassination
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In a sign of mounting fear and desperation in Haiti, a large crowd has gathered outside the U.S. Embassy in Port-au-Prince Friday.

An estimated one thousand people flocked to the grounds around the building, following unsubstantiated rumours on radio and social media that the U.S. will be handing out humanitarian visas.

Wednesday's assassination of President Jovenel Moise's has turned what was already a country in turmoil into a nation running scared.

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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2021, 09:38:50 pm »
Haiti experiences fuel, food shortages amid growing turmoil
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The country is reeling after the assassination of President Jovenel Moise.


Powerful gang boss wades into Haiti turmoil
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One of Haiti's most powerful gang leaders said his men would take to the streets to protest the assassination of President Jovenel Moise, threatening to pitch the impoverished Caribbean country deeper into chaos.
 
#News #Reuters #Haiti #president #JovenelMoise

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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2021, 07:24:35 pm »
Suspect in assassination of Haitian president a former DEA informant
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The Miami Herald's Jacqueline Charles reports on the suspects who've been arrested for the assassination of Haiti's president. One of them is a former DEA informant.


Haitian prime minister: President was tortured and killed in his own home
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ABC News’ Marcus Moore sits down with Haiti’s interim prime minister to discuss the state of the country on the heels of the assassination of President Jovenel Moïse, and the two Americans arrested.

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« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2022, 09:02:16 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/haiti-brain-drain-educated-youth-110000620.html

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Like the more than 6,000 Haitians who have taken to the sea to reach Florida or Puerto Rico in the past few months — in what has become the largest Haitian exodus by boat since 2004 — Philippeson sees no future in his homeland.
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A recent national survey by the country’s Citizen Observatory for Institutionalization of Democracy found that 82% of Haiti’s nearly 12 million people would migrate if they had the chance.

This is what we like to see. The US is probably the best destination, although France would also be a good choice. Canada is another possibility.







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« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2022, 07:07:48 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/haiti-factories-close-school-feedings-090000682.html

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In Haiti, factories close, school feedings are on hold and hunger is about to get worse
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For Haiti, where 45% of the population was already nearing starvation in March, the looting is exacerbating the deepening hunger crisis. Food warehouses are empty. Supermarket shelves are bare. And since Sept. 12, no containers have been been unloaded at the seaports, leading shippers to temporarily pause all delivery of cargo, including food.
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Children are now dying at an increasing rate, said Mickie West, a missionary with But God Ministries in the Ganthier community.

“We can’t get food for our schools, and people in the village are starving because they have no access to food or clean water,” she said.

From Jacmel in the south to Port-de-Paix in the far northwest, basic commodities are becoming increasingly hard to find, or afford when available.

“You can’t even find potable water to drink,” said Honorine Jean, 42, a teacher caring for two teenage nieces in the city of Gonaïves. “Day by day, the population is becoming worse off.”
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In March, the U.N. estimated that a third of the 2 million people living in the Artibonite Valley were at risk of hunger, while 13% faced severe hunger.

A recent “Hunger Hotspots” report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the U.N. and the World Food Program estimates that hunger will grow worse before year’s end.

“We suspect there will be a serious deterioration of food security for people, adding to and compounding the difficulties people are facing every day if not every hour,” said Ulrika Richardson, the U.N. resident and humanitarian coordinator in Port-au-Prince.
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The World Food Program has said it had to put its school feeding program on hold because nearly 2,100 metric tons of food, valued at $5 million, were looted from two of the agency’s warehouses. The food collectively would have fed 200,000 school children and vulnerable adults until the end of the year.

This is why sending food relief is not the answer: there is no guarantee it will actually reach those who need it. The most efficient way to get starving people fed is to let them migrate to where the food is. I don't know why this is so difficult to understand.

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A father of five whose children range in age between 21 and 35, Mondesir works in agriculture. He recalls the days when the rice-growing Artibonite Valley fed Haiti. But drought, natural disaster, bad governance and now rising costs have made those days a distant memory.

“We used to produce enough rice to export abroad,” he said. “Now, everything has been destroyed. ... All of Haiti is destroyed.”

Do you know which civilization is to blame for the drought? Hint: the same one which colonized Haiti in the first place. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/coups-colonialism-in-haiti-france-u-s-urged-to-pay-reparations-for-destroying-na/


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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2022, 05:08:44 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/haiti-verge-collapse-ngos-warn-142016898.html

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On Monday, the US and Mexico called for the formation of a non-UN multinational force to take down the gangs who now dominate much of Port-au-Prince.

Let the gangs rule Haiti! (For most of history, these "gangs" would have been recognized as prospective royal houses.) Just let everyone who doesn't want to live under their rule emigrate to the US or Mexico!

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A record 4.7 million people are facing acute hunger, with 1.8 million now at an emergency level of malnutrition.

For the first time thousands of Haitian are suffering level 5 hunger – the WFP’s highest alert level and one often reserved for wartime famine.

Malnutrition has long been rife in Port-au-Prince’s slums, but the paralysis of the country by gangs has caused hunger to reach life-or-death levels.

Many residents are unable to work due to severe petrol shortages and food prices are soaring, leaving 65% of Cite Soleil’s inhabitants regularly hungry and 5% of them needing urgent humanitarian assistance, the WFP says.

They need assistance getting out. Sending stuff in is useless; just send ships etc. to ferry out all who want to leave!

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“The progressive destruction” of Haiti and its institutions will make any program to stabilise then rebuild it from a failed state into a functioning democracy a long and arduous one, said Jonathas.

False Leftists like Jonathas are the problem. Don't rebuild! Forget about democracy! Let the gangs transform Haiti into a non-democratic state! Just concentrate on moving refugees out of Haiti!

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Any international solution must also include Haitians if it is to be a lasting one, he added. UN missions in Haiti have quelled violence in the past, but it swiftly returned once they departed.

“Solutions must be local, among Haitians, but of course with the involvement of our international partners. If we talk about solutions and forget once again the important Haitian actors, it will be a short-term solution to return with the same problems a few years later.”

The gangs are Haitians, you moron! Include them! But no, you are a False Leftist who thinks Westerners should be the ones who decide which Haitians (ie. Western puppets) are the 'correct' Haitians to include.

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2022, 12:35:48 pm »
Port-au-Prince: Haiti's capital city taken hostage by brutal gangs - BBC News
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Haiti is on the "verge of the abyss", according to the UN, as heavily armed gangs expand their control of the country.

Armed groups control - and terrorise - at least 60% of the capital Port-au-Prince and its surroundings, according to Haitian human rights groups.

They are also warning **** is increasingly being used as a weapon.

In the first six months of this year, the gangs killed almost 1,000 people, the UN has said.


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« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2023, 07:46:24 pm »
Vigilantes fight back against Haiti's gangs
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Warning: Video contains graphic images | A rise in armed vigilante groups has opened an unpredictable new chapter in Haiti’s gang war, as ordinary civilians, tired of being terrorized, take matters into their own hands.


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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2023, 05:47:15 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/though-haiti-dire-security-needs-035120293.html

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This July marks two years since Haiti’s President Jovenel Moïse was shot dead inside his home. With the country mired in crisis, it is virtually impossible to get hold of regular supplies of water or fuel, or to access healthcare services because of the violence.

As I keep saying, transporting supplies to where the people in need are will always fail. The correct approach is to transport the people in need to where the supplies are.

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The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) team working in Port-au-Prince has seen a substantial increase in the presence and reach of armed groups in Haiti, now numbering up to 300 gangs both within and beyond the capital, which is now mostly under their control. It’s no surprise, then, that the dominant narrative about Haiti focuses on insecurity and whether or how to answer calls for the deployment of international forces to intervene and restore order.

NO, DO NOT INVADE! The only role of international forces should be to provide transport for any Haitians wishing to leave Haiti! It is that simple.

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Yet this laser focus on the security situation has crowded out an equally important conversation: how to make tangible progress in meeting Haitians’ basic needs

How? Get them out of Haiti and into the US ASAP, that's how! (Though really France should also be stepping up to take them in. I would be all for the US pressuring France to accept all Haitians who themselves wish to relocate to France in the long-term.)

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There are several Haitian and international organizations working hard to alleviate that suffering, but they are in need of more funding and resources.

As the regional director for the Americas for the ICRC, I fear that a singular narrative about security in the country draws support and attention away from critical humanitarian relief, which could ultimately shrink our ability and that of others to continue to provide assistance.

Then do not provide assistance in Haiti, but provide assistance in the US, and get Haitians in need of assistance into the US!

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Half of Haiti’s residents are experiencing hunger, and only slightly more have access to safe drinking water.

That's how many Haitians should be in the US by now.

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Haiti’s profound humanitarian needs are alarming and on the scale of those my organization sees in armed conflicts around the world, covered heavily in the news. But the narrative that exists outside of Haiti is that the situation is so dire achieving results is impossible, creating a sense of hopelessness and fatigue.

The narrative is not wrong. Haiti's carrying capacity has been reduced. There is no getting around this. The only way to achieve results is for Haitians to emigrate until the remaining population falls back below the new carrying capacity.

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That’s why the international community must support Haiti — not abandon it — in finding a viable political solution and to strengthen the efforts of humanitarian and development actors, both national and international, which right now are addressing the needs of the most vulnerable.

NO! Haiti requires no "political solution" and no "development". The current carrying capacity in Haiti is actually closer to what it used to be prior to the colonial era, which is a good thing. Stop trying to artificially pump the carrying capacity back up to colonial-era levels! Just leave it as it is and get the excess Haitians into the US!

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And it must start a new conversation, one that moves beyond a security-centric narrative and embraces a compassionate, inclusive, and forward-looking approach in Haiti.

You cannot be both compassionate and forward-looking. True compassion is always regressive. True compassion always prefers the bad thing to never have happened to the victim in the first place, whereas progressiveness tries to turn every bad thing that happened to the victim into a chance for the victim to "grow" (ie. desensitize) from the experience (until the victim eventually becomes glad that the bad thing happened - this is what progress actually means). This is the opposite of compassion: it is sadomasochism.

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/leftists-against-progressivism/
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2023, 09:06:33 pm »
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whereas progressiveness tries to turn every bad thing that happened to the victim into a chance for the victim to "grow" (ie. desensitize) from the experience (until the victim eventually becomes glad that the bad thing happened - this is what progress actually means). This is the opposite of compassion: it is sadomasochism.

They also say that if we not want to forgive the oppressors who ever hurt us and keep to make them to be hold accountable, we are glad that we suffers and not want to grow up to accept the reality. Sadomasochism meaning is a people who have pleasure on experiencing pain. We who are always urge the oppressors to take accountability for their wrongdoings are considered by them "glad on our sufferings." Because they think if we forget the pain which we already got in the past, we will not feel painful again and we will live normally. If we still urge the oppressors to take accountability and they not want to do it, we will continuously suffer. So, what about that? They can use word "sadomasochism" on us.
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