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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2022, 01:39:56 pm »
The Truth Matters: Russian Disinformation About Ukraine
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Stephanie Ruhle breaks down recent Russian propaganda defending Vladimir Putin’s massing of troops on the Ukrainian border that has made its way into American media. And why we should be listening to the Ukrainian people over everyone else.

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« Reply #16 on: February 04, 2022, 07:56:33 pm »
Russia's military buildup continues on Ukraine border
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China publicly backed Russia in the Kremlin's standoff against the West over Ukraine. Meanwhile, Russia is amassing even more troops near the border with Ukraine ahead of a possible invasion. David Martin has the details.


Some fascinating comments on an RT article:

'Without Russia, we won't stop a full-on Ukrainian offensive': What people in Donbass say about the ongoing military crisis
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxwUgsq7ZIR1Pi_rU67z9h0g0NqfLUUDaX

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don't overwork the psy-ops, just do what you're gonna do, we're all pretty callus to it
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Dude just invade Ukraine don't try to pretend your afraid of them this is sad just go do what your gonna do. This isn't the 1960's were aware of this stuff now
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Russian propaganda, at it's finest...
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Russia literally no one is buying your narrative, atleast be honest about your imperialism

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2022, 09:13:27 pm »
Why a Russian invasion of Ukraine appears imminent despite intense diplomatic efforts
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The Biden administration on Friday issued its most urgent warning yet that Russia could launch a war in Ukraine at any time. More than 100,000 Russian troops surround Ukraine on three sides, and national security adviser Jake Sullivan urged Americans to leave by the end of the weekend. U.S. officials tell our Nick Schifrin, they fear the war could start next week.


New intel suggests Russia may attack before Olympics end
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The US and its allies have new intelligence that suggests Russia could launch an attack on Ukraine even before the end of the Olympics, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell CNN.  #CNN #News


Worth a listen:
Why Is it Not in Russia's Interest to Invade Ukraine? - VisualPolitik EN
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Moscow is digging in its heels. Troops, tanks, missiles and warships from all of Russia's military districts have been deployed along the Ukrainian border.

Everything looks set for a major offensive. The motive? Supposedly to counter NATO's growing presence in the region.
 
But what if the outcome of this operation was exactly the opposite of what Moscow intended? Could the United States be looking forward to Russia's invasion of Ukraine? This is one of the key questions yet very few have asked it. In this video we take a look at four of the major reasons why Russia invading Ukraine could be a tremendous mistake and the big trap Vladimir Putin is facing.

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2022, 11:18:39 pm »
Former Ukraine ambassador says Putin may still decide not to invade Ukraine
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ABC News’ Phil Lipof speaks to former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor about the escalating threat of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.


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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2022, 02:47:28 pm »
Why Putin's Words Fall AGAIN On Deaf Ears!? Why Are Politicians & MSM Ignoring Russian Warnings!?


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Re: Re: Duginism
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2022, 08:13:21 pm »
The entire NATO approach of waiting to see whether or not Russia will make a move is stupid, as it allows Russia to keep the tactical initiative. It means Russia can relax knowing it can take as long as it wants to decide either way, while we have to remain tense at every moment anticipating a move. Russia is already winning, and the longer Russia keeps us waiting in this way, the more it wins.

If I were in charge, once we have enough troops ready, I would threaten to take back Crimea. This at least puts Russia in the same psychological condition ("Will they really invade?") as we are currently in, and hence puts the two sides back on equal footing.

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2022, 10:42:39 pm »
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If I were in charge, once we have enough troops ready, I would threaten to take back Crimea. This at least puts Russia in the same psychological condition ("Will they really invade?") as we are currently in, and hence puts the two sides back on equal footing.

This is a great point. Also just came through my feed just as I was reading your response, perhaps we are seeing the start of the invasion unfolding now?:
Russia pulls out some diplomatic staff from Ukraine as border tensions escalates | WION English News
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Russia said that it has recalled some of its diplomatic staff from Ukraine over fears of provocations from Kyiv and its allies in response to similar actions by the US, UK and other countries.

#Russia #Ukraine #EnglishNews


President Biden Warns President Putin To Back Down Amid Concerns Of Russian Invasion In Ukraine
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President Joe Biden warned Russian President Vladimir Putin to back down Saturday as concerns grow that Russia could invade Ukraine at any moment; Michael George reports for CBS2.

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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2022, 12:55:36 am »
BREAKING! Russia And Belarus Begin Massive Military Exercise WITHIN THEIR BORDERS!
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Russian motorized rifle units of the Eastern Military District together with units of the special operations forces of the Republic of Belarus started joint exercise Union Courage - 2022.


US defends evacuating embassy as Ukraine urges calm - BBC News
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US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said the "imminent" threat of Russian military action in Ukraine justifies evacuating the US embassy in Kyiv.

His words came after Ukraine's president urged calm, saying the biggest enemy was panic.

More than a dozen countries have urged their citizens to leave Ukraine.

Moscow, with more than 100,000 troops near the border, has denied it plans to invade.


Ukraine crisis: Putin accuses US of 'hysteria,' Biden warns of 'severe costs' | DW News
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A phone call between the US and Russian leaders has failed to ease tensions over Ukraine. Presidents Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin spoke after the US warned that Russia could invade Ukraine at any time. Moscow has dismissed the claim as hysteria. Ukraine's forces are on high alert, as more than 100,000 Russian troops are gathered near the border. Germany has joined other countries in telling its nationals to leave Ukraine.
Ukrainian forces are training near the Black Sea. Urban warfare exercises hint at the kind of unrest they are preparing for.
President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, however, called for calm heads.

On Sunday, contingency plans turned real.
US staff at the Organisation for Security and Economic Cooperation based in the rebel held city of Donetsk, were packing up and heading home.
Just the latest group to decide that the risk of all out war is now too great.


Has diplomacy reached a dead end? | Inside Story
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The latest diplomatic attempt between the United States and Russia to resolve tensions over Ukraine has achieved nothing.

Presidents Putin and Biden exchanged warnings and concerns over the phone, but little else, while military activity continues on both sides.

Moscow has been massing troops in Russia and Belarus near their borders with Ukraine.

The build-up is raising fears an invasion is imminent.

Ukraine is receiving Western support.

It's biggest ally, the U.S., is sending 200 million dollars worth of military aid including armour-penetrating missiles and ammunition.




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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2022, 01:59:05 pm »
BREAKING! Putin To Lavrov: Do You Think There Is Still A Chance To Reach Agreement With NATO Or...
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Russian President Vladimir Putin had a working meeting with Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.

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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2022, 05:53:36 pm »
It means Russia can relax knowing it can take as long as it wants to decide either way, while we have to remain tense at every moment anticipating a move.

Russia is likely gambling on NATO losing their nerve sooner or later and, as a result, forcing Ukraine to sign an unequal treaty in Russia's favor just to resolve the situation.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2022, 05:51:13 am by Dazhbog »

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« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2022, 08:18:49 pm »
Zelensky: Yes, we would like to join NATO
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky reiterated that his country intends to join NATO when asked about the remarks of his country's ambassador to the UK, who suggested Kyiv might abandon those ambitions to avoid further Russian aggression. #CNN #News


Time to talk? German chancellor urges Moscow to step back as Zelensky vows to join NATO
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Diplomacy continues in the attemp of resolving the political crisis in Ukraine. This Monday, the German chancellor Olaf Scholz went to Kiev to meet with Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelenksy. This as a ring of Russian troops around Ukraine tightens.
#ukraine #nato #russia


Putin Signals U.S., NATO Talks to Continue on Ukraine
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Russian President Vladimir Putin responded "all right" to a suggestion by Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that the Kremlin extend efforts to reach a diplomatic solution with the West over tensions in Ukraine.


Pentagon Press Secy. Kirby: Putin Increases His ‘Options For Major Military Action’
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Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby joins Andrea Mitchell to discuss the major concerns within the U.S. military over Putin's amassed forces near Ukraine’s borders. “He could use cyber attacks, and he could certainly use conventional ground, air, and even maritime forces to put troops ashore in any number of places,” says Kirby. “With each passing day, he gives himself more options for a major military action.”


Former Ambassador: Ukraine Sovereignty Would Threaten Putin's Regime
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Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, Bill Taylor, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times join Morning Joe to discuss the latest in Ukraine and the possibility of Russia invading Ukraine during the Olympics.

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« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2022, 12:41:42 am »
'UK-Russia ties close to zero,' says Russian defence minister | International News | WION
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Now as tensions continue to escalate over Ukraine, Russia's defense minister Sergey Shoygu has now said that Moscow's ties with London are at a low point all this due to their close to zero cooperation. The statement comes as he met UK defense secretary for a rare peace talks.

#Ukraine #Russia #WorldNews


United States: Crucial window of diplomacy left | Russia-Ukraine border tensions | World News | WION
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US believes that a small crucial window of diplomacy remains for Russia to de-escalate tensions at the Ukraine border as Western leaders engages in a flurry of talks to defuse the crisis. 'We are not saying that president Putin has made a final decision we have not communicated otherwise to our partners we believe that diplomacy continues to be viable we believe that there still remains a window to resolve crisis through dialogue and diplomacy.'

#Russia #Ukraine #UnitedStates

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« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2022, 01:59:19 pm »
Russia claims troop withdrawal from Ukraine border as diplomacy continues
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U.S. officials tell CBS News Russian forces have moved rocket launchers and long-range artillery into possible firing positions, but the Kremlin says it is pulling back troops and wants to continue diplomatic negotiations. CBS News' Skyler Henry reports from the White House, and then CBS News reporter Haley Ott joins us from Kyiv, Ukraine, with the latest.


NATO Sees No Signs of Reduced Russian Troops at Ukraine Border
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Speaking ahead of a meeting of NATO defense ministers in Brussels on February 15, Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg responded to Russia’s reported partial withdrawal by saying, “So far we have not seen any sign of de-escalation on the ground.”

“Russia has amassed a fighting force in and around Ukraine, unprecedented since the Cold War,” he said. “Everything is now in place for a new attack. But Russia still has time to step back from the brink. Stop preparing for war.”

Despite the seriousness of the security crisis, Stoltenberg said there were “signs from Moscow that diplomacy should continue. This gives grounds for cautious optimism.”


Russia's parliament votes to recognize separatist regions in eastern Ukraine I ABCNL
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ABC News' James Longman discusses the next steps and how significant the escalation would be if Putin gives the go-ahead to invade Ukraine.

#ABCNews #FigureSkatingScandal #OlympicsControversy


Watts On Putin Pulling Back Troops: ‘He Is In A Position Where He Could Invade At Any Moment'
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NBC News Chief Foreign Correspondent Richard Engel, Former US Ambassador of NATO Douglas Lute, NBC News National Security Analyst Clint Watts, and NBC News Political Analyst and New York Times Chief White House Correspondent Peter Baker joined Chris Jansing to discuss the confusion coming out of Ukraine after Putin said Russia will pull back some of its troops. This morning the Secretary General of NATO said “he doesn’t see any evidence of a real de-escalation,” Engel says.


Russia doesn't want war, ready for missile talks: Putin
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Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia does not want a war in Europe, but that the answers to its security guarantee proposals given by the U.S. and NATO do not address its demands.
 
#News #Reuters #Russia #Ukraine #Putin

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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2022, 02:09:35 pm »
Gravitas: What will China do if Russia invades Ukraine?
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Vladimir Putin is counting on China to help Russia circumvent possible western sanctions. Will Beijing openly back a Russian invasion of Ukraine? What's in it for Xi Jinping? Palki Sharma tells you.

#Gravitas #China #RussiaUkraineConflict


As Kirby said in a video a couple posts back: "That's unfortunate"....

Putin Owns Scholz: Did You Forget About Illegal NATO Military Operation Against Serbia In Europe?
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Russian President Putin responds to German Chancellor Scholz saying his generation can't imagine war in Europe: Forgot NATO military operation against Serbia In Europe?


See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/hungary-v4/?message=11236

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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2022, 05:25:13 pm »
‘West has been destroyed without a shot fired’ – Russia   ???
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The Russian Foreign Ministry has announced February 15 as “the day Western propaganda failed”
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With Russia announcing that its troops are pulling back following the completion of exercises near the border with Ukraine, Moscow has insisted that predictions it could be just moments away from ordering a full-blown invasion have been proven false.

In a fiery statement on Tuesday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova poured scorn on weeks of reports and claims from US and European officials that Moscow’s armed forces could be just hours away from launching a strike against its neighbor.

“15 February 2022 will go down in history as the day Western war propaganda failed,” she wrote. According to her, the West has been “shamed and destroyed without firing a single shot.”

At the same time, Moscow’s Ministry of Defense announced that a number of Russian troops had finished their training exercises in Belarus, close to the Ukrainian border, and will begin the process of withdrawing.
https://www.rt.com/russia/549410-western-war-propaganda-failed/

I don't understand this line of thinking at all? So, to clarify, Ukraine joining NATO will be a total victory for Russia and a failure of "Western propaganda"?

Continuing:
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Amid fears of a potential incursion, Moscow has sought security guarantees that would limit the expansion of NATO closer to its borders and block Ukraine from joining its ranks. However, the bloc’s Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg has said that Russia has “no veto” on Kiev’s ambitions to secure membership.

On Monday, Russia’s top diplomat, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, said that his side had been disappointed by the response from NATO and the US, but there were still hopes of reaching a diplomatic solution. Speaking shortly after Zakharova on Tuesday, he claimed that Western reports of an imminent invasion amounted to “information terrorism.”
https://www.rt.com/russia/549410-western-war-propaganda-failed/

You just contradicted yourself multiple times in your own article, did you not?

And then I just read the top comment on this article:
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Russia: “we demand guarantees from NATO and will take necessary actions”
pulls back force without concessions
“WE. ARE. VICTORIOUS”
:D

I hope this is some kind of master strategy from Russia to sow confusion or else I'm going to be disappointed myself....