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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #165 on: March 15, 2022, 09:16:24 pm »
A no fly zone would be the best course of action to help accomplish your proposed goal. Use the Ukrainians as cannon fodder against the Russians.

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« Reply #166 on: March 15, 2022, 11:21:19 pm »
Wagner Group Mercenaries Reportedly In Ukraine ‘Enmeshed With Russian Ministry Of Defense’
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Vladimir Putin is reportedly using a shadowy mercenary group in Ukraine called the Wagner Group. “They are very closely enmeshed with the Russian Ministry of Defense,” Foreign Policy National Security Reporter Amy Mackinnon tells Joy Reid. MSNBC analyst Malcolm Nance also joins The ReidOut to discuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqofEeMzQww

Yet, they must be just as incompetent as everyone else on the Russian side in Ukraine as well then?

Russian Military is suffering 'record number' of casualties in Ukraine
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The Russian military is suffering so many casualties in Ukraine that it is being forced to redeploy forces from distant areas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqAlReQY_mk


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« Reply #167 on: March 16, 2022, 12:46:55 pm »
Satellite images show destroyed Russian helicopters and other Equipment near Kherson.
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Satellite images show destroyed Russian helicopters near Kherson.

NASA's Fire Information for Resource Management System (FIRMS), which tracks large fires around the world, has taken images of destroyed Russian military helicopters at the Kherson International Airport in the village of Chornobaivka near Kherson.
That's according to CNN, Ukrinform reports.

According to the sensory data collected by FIRMS, the military strike occurred around 13:42 local time on March 15.

At least three Russian helicopters at the airport were destroyed by artillery shelling. Several military vehicles were also hit near the airport.

It's the most destructive known strike the Ukrainian military has conducted against Russian helicopters during the war, the report said.

On March 14, satellite images from Maxar Technologies showed a number of Russian military helicopters on the tarmac at Kherson's International Airport. Dozens of military vehicles are also seen in the surrounding area.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdIUlXPvMho

Voznesensk resists Russian takeover: City occupied 3 days, now freed & preparing to defend
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Ukrainian troops are resisting Russian troops in the Ukrainian city of Voznesensk, over 50 miles north of Mykolaiv.
#Ukraine #Russia #War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3HKid-xeEQ

Ukraine Army Successfully Repels Russia’s Attack in Polissia Direction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo9ZdK9XF_c

Clever Tactics By Ukrainian Forces Stymie Russian Military Despite Power Imbalance
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Sudarsan Raghavan, correspondent at large for the Washington Post, talks about the success Ukrainian forces have had so far using guerilla tactics to defend Kyiv against Vladimir Putin's invasion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9saWmdjpNmE

IF RUSSIA WINS, UKRAINIAN SPECIAL FORCES ARE PREPARED FOR FURIOUS INSURGENCY || 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KvmQ646-Lg

Ukraine war: Mariupol theatre where 'hundreds of people sheltering' bombed by Russian forces, officials claim
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The US embassy in Kyiv says it is "considering all available options to ensure accountability for any atrocity crimes in Ukraine".
https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-kyiv-exploiting-russian-forces-lack-of-manoeuvre-and-inflicting-heavy-losses-mod-says-12567393

Russian Drone Flights Into NATO Skies Test Alliance’s Red Lines
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Small automated aircraft have crashed in Romania and Croatia and may have crossed into Poland
https://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-drone-flights-into-nato-skies-test-alliances-red-lines-11647426550

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #168 on: March 16, 2022, 09:03:39 pm »
https://www.dw.com/en/ukraines-bid-to-recruit-fighters-from-africa-sparks-uproar/a-61049323

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"If an opportunity presented itself for me to fight in Ukraine as a mercenary, I would be on my heels running there," Beatrice Kaluki, who is unemployed, told DW.

"I would rather die on the front line in Ukraine knowing that my family would be compensated even after my death, rather than die in Kenya from depression because of the insane unemployment rate!"

The 27-year-old said she believes other youth would run there [to Ukraine] if a chance presented itself because "they would rather die there fighting than die in this country from poverty."
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He said the reward could potentially come from being granted Ukrainian citizenship or being provided some form of financial compensation for participating in the conflict on behalf of Ukrainian forces.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nigerian-volunteer-fighting-ukraine-better-003307484.html

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The philosophy graduate is one of several hundred Africans, from countries like Nigeria, Kenya, Senegal, South Africa and Algeria, who say they are willing to take up arms in the battle against Russia, partly to escape the bleak prospects faced by many young men at home.

"We know that it's war, it's not child's play," he told the BBC. "But being a soldier in Ukraine would be better than being here.

"I'll probably be allowed to stay if the war ends, plus I'll be a hero and fight an undeniable enemy."

While we should note:

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There has been no official confirmation that foreign fighters will be allowed to stay in the country after the war.

I say it is worth a try. It cannot be worse than staying in places soon to become uninhabitable as a consequence of global warming. At worst they get a head start on the climate refugee wave. They will also be armed, which places them in a better position to resist than unarmed refugees should the racists try to deport them later. At best they do get to stay, and then they can start sponsoring others to arrive also. No matter what, getting a foot through the door makes a big difference.

As a bonus, they might get to kill Turanians with their own hands!

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« Reply #169 on: March 17, 2022, 12:36:19 am »
Ukrainians have started a counter-offensive of sorts, as others had predicted that they would:

Engel: Russians Seem To Be On Their Back Foot Around Kyiv
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NBC News' Richard Engel reports from Kyiv on Russian attacks on the Ukrainian capital, why he says Ukrainian forces are going on the offensive and Russian forces seem to be on their back foot in positions around Kyiv.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y14bC7hZ0is

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« Reply #170 on: March 17, 2022, 02:08:55 am »
Fukuyama: Putin Is Raising The Stakes To Justify The ‘Unjustifiable’
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Political theorist Francis Fukuyama, author of “The End of History and the Last Man,” joins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aevAtJ9HQ80

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« Reply #171 on: March 17, 2022, 11:02:54 am »
A fourth Russian General has been killed.

Rising Russian Troop Deaths Take Toll On Morale
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More than 7,000 Russian troops have been killed during Russia's invasion of Ukraine, according to conservative U.S. estimates reported on in the NYT. Senior writer Eric Schmitt joins Morning Joe to discuss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqLu_MNGYW4

Bodies of Russian Soldiers Filling Up Belarusian Morgues, Residents Say
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The bodies of Russian soldiers killed in battle in Ukraine are filling up morgues in Belarus, local residents told RFE/RL.
Russian soldiers killed in battle are being brought by truck to the morgues and then sent back to Russia by train or plane, residents said.
Residents described the horror of seeing the bodies loaded on a train at Mazyr for transfer back to Russia.
“The number of bodies was unbelievably large. People at the Mazyr station were simply shocked by the number of bodies being put on the train,” a local resident in Mazyr told RFE/RL.
The morgues in Homel and Naroulia are also filled up, according to local residents.
Belarusian doctors have been threatened with the loss of their job if they are caught spreading information about the dead and injured Russian soldiers.
U.S. officials have estimated that several thousand Russian soldiers have been killed so far in the two-week old war.
https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-belarus-morgue-soldiers/31750455.html

Ukraine launches counter-offensive outside of Kyiv l GMA
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Ian Pannell reports from the capital with the latest on the war in Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnilTBXBWl0

BRITISH SNIPER: RUSSIANS CAN'T WIN, THE UKRANIANS ARE FIGHTING LIKE 'TALIBAN ON STEROIDS' || 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tUtdH0pC1g

Britain will deploy Sky Sabre missile defence system to aid Ukraine
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BRITAIN will deploy its Sky Sabre missile system in Poland, its defence minister said on Thursday (March 17) during a visit to Warsaw, as NATO moves to beef up the security of its eastern flank in view of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Britain has previously said the missile defence system has the capability to hit a tennis ball-sized object traveling at the speed of sound.

"We are going to deploy the Sky Sabre medium-range, anti-air missile system to Poland with about 100 personnel to make sure that we stand alongside Poland, protecting her airspace from any further aggression by Russia," Ben Wallace told a news conference alongside his Polish counterpart Mariusz Blaszczak.

A spokesman for British Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the missile system was being deployed after a request from the Polish government and will remain under the control of British forces at all times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRmfua2TXlc

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #172 on: March 17, 2022, 08:55:01 pm »
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ukraine-russia-black-refugees-b2030707.html

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Black siblings ‘beaten and racially abused by border guards’ while fleeing Ukraine
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Three Black students say they were beaten and racially discriminated against by immigration officials while trying to flee the war-torn country.
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After days of walking and queuing in the freezing cold, the trio say they were discriminated against by border guards, split-up despite their brother being vulnerable with a disability, and subjected to verbal and physical attacks.

“When I said we need to bring our brother with us [as we progressed through to the Polish border], that’s when they started beating and shouting at us to go back outside,” Jeancy, 24, told The Independent. “Immigration guards, both male and female, called us names like n*gger and Black ****; they referred to my brother as a monkey.

“One male guard beat me so savagely, and then my period came which only added to the humiliation I was going through.
I was enduring the pain of the attacks but couldn’t cry. ‘Are you seriously attacking a woman? I asked the guard. People were trying to intervene and shouting at them to stop.”

“I was really disgusted. I have never experienced someone just assaulting me for nothing,” Jeancy added.

“I kept asking myself why would they say this to me. Women old enough to be my mum and sister were calling us names. I was really tired and feeling hurt; I remember asking for water and they refused to even give that. I just focused on getting past the borders and onto the other side.”

The siblings say they experienced discrimination at the Poland border in Ukraine where they queued for days, were segregated from white Ukranian refugees and regularly sent to the backs of queues when they did make it to the front.

“We soon realised we were being discriminated against but we didn’t want to cause a fuss,” the student explained

Eventually Jeancy and her sister Nahomy, 26, were allowed past the first gate but were forced to leave their younger brother Israel, who doesn’t speak English and has a physical disability sustained during a racist attack in Ukraine prior to the Russian invasion, behind.

So yes, Ukrainians behave like this during peacetime also.

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When he was eventually reunited with his sisters, Jeancy was horrified by the bruises on his face and worsened limp followed by confirmation that he had been beaten outside while separated from them.

Meanwhile, Nahomy was gun-butted in her stomach several times by a guard, according to her sister; she then lost conscious and was hospitalised at the Provincial Hospital St. Padre Pio in Poland from Sunday 27 February to Wednesday 2 March. Nahomy declined an interview with The Independent explaining that she’s still unwell and shaken up.
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Princess Radjabu, a 27-year-old student based in the US, communicated with her siblings throughout their journey and became increasingly concerned for their wellbeing as early accounts of racial discrimination emerged on Twitter.

“I was alarmed and warned them that it seems this situation is becoming about race - something that they didn’t believe until they reached the border,” she told The Independent.

“When I learned from them what happened, I was determined to speak out because people seem to be disbelieving accounts of how Black people are being treated.

“But I was also worried about what to tell my parents who have been so worried about. Why are the guards acting like criminals and racially abusing Black people including my siblings while the world is saying ‘pray for Ukraine’?”

The question should be the other way round: why is the world (except True Leftists, of course) saying 'pray for Ukraine' while Ukrainians are behaving like this?

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“Despite this crisis, Africans are being treated like animals for simply seeking refuge. What my African brothers and sisters and their children are experiencing at the hands of these people during this war is atrocious and needs to be known.”

“We are all traumatised at this point and I just realised just how much it was after it happened,” Jeancy continued. “You know when it’s like you’re under a illusion and you’re hoping everything is fine in the moment? It was awful - so much so that I don’t know if i ever want to step foot in Ukraine again - my brother and sister feel the same.

If you don't go back to Ukraine, the bullies have won. The only way to truly overcome your trauma is to go back to Ukraine and turn it into lebensraum for 100% "non-whites" (of all ethnic backgrounds, of course - we are not ethnotribalists!).
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« Reply #173 on: March 17, 2022, 11:03:35 pm »
How the Ukraine war has shifted German foreign policy - BBC Newsnight
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Since Ukraine’s invasion, Germany has completely transformed its foreign and defence policy, with an €100bn increase in defence spending.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uG6rMVhJAY

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #174 on: March 18, 2022, 12:36:56 am »
Our enemies reveal why a no-fly zone would be advantageous to Turandom:

https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1504606529474883584?s=20&t=YllI57KdWf0cjN0tlyfZIg
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Putin is not an insane mad man bent on world destruction. He is a rational, though brutal, actor, who will use force, even nuclear force, if pressed. But he also understands the consequences of a nuclear exchange—which are dire for him.

Which makes it all the more advantageous for NATO to exert pressure on this front.

Continuing:
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1504606531068735489?s=20&t=YllI57KdWf0cjN0tlyfZIg
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Currently, the Ukraine war amounts to a major power exerting its will over a small country—one with lots of friends and help but a small fighting force and no nuclear capacity. This could lead to a long-term, horrible insurgency. No one wants that—including Moscow.
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1504606532553478144?s=20&t=YllI57KdWf0cjN0tlyfZIg
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Establishing a #NoFlyZoneOverUkraine—more precisely, over the territory not yet controlled by Russia—would transform the current conflict into a Cold War battle with established lines. Not ideal, but much better than the status quo.
https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1504606538467459072?s=20&t=YllI57KdWf0cjN0tlyfZIg
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At this point, three options are possible. 1) Russia wins over the next 3-6 months; 2) Ukraine becomes the site of a horrible, years-long insurgency; 3) Ukraine is divided and the bloodshed stops. Why choose options 1 or 2? Declare a #NoFlyZone!

If a no-fly zone would end the bloodshed, then I do not support it. As much as I would like to punish Russia, a no-fly zone would be ineffective in achieving this. The best option is the nuclear one (see first tweet).

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« Reply #175 on: March 18, 2022, 01:13:55 am »
The other option I think is that Putin suffers such a catastrophic defeat he is either removed from power by his own military or intelligence services, or he withdraws. That would be the 4th option. Perhaps his military is resilient enough to go another 3 to 6 months, but even then I do not see how this is winnable for Russia at this point?

Estimated Russian Casualties Put Ukraine War In Category Of Catastrophe
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Ali Velshi looks at U.S. intelligence and other estimates of Russian casualties in Vladimir Putin's war on Ukraine so far, with at least half as many in three weeks as in Russia's entire catastrophic decade of fighting in Afghanistan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRfblwK-M-c

Putin has already begun to cannibalize his own regime, says investigative journalist
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Investigative journalist Michael Weiss joins Shep Smith to discuss what’s really going on in Ukraine and how long Putin’s invasion can continue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F7UQUsFQgQ

I think the worst would be if he withdraws, or wins, and stays in power.

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #176 on: March 18, 2022, 01:24:28 am »
"Our enemies reveal why a no-fly zone would be advantageous to Turandom:"

I see it differently. Without a no-fly zone, Zelensky can capitulate to Putin's demands and then claim he did it to minimize civilian casualties, which he seems to be on the verge of doing:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/re-duginism-1134/msg12061/#msg12061

Had Ukraine been given a no-fly zone, Zelensky would not get to use this excuse.

Also, since Ukraine is asking for a no-fly zone, it must be willing to do something in exchange*. Imagine if NATO offered Ukraine a no-fly zone on the condition that Ukrainian troops first invade Russia! Zelensky has to accept, or else he becomes solely to blame for each extra day Ukraine does not get a no-fly zone. Whereas so long as NATO is not offering a no-fly zone to begin with, Zelensky can say, "It's not my fault NATO isn't helping us! Better negotiate with Putin instead!"

Once the war is being fought on Russian territory, Putin cannot back down short of surrendering totally (which is impossible for someone like him). And we can ensure Zelensky does not back down by threatening to withdraw the no-fly zone if he does.

(*Only Spencer would assume Ukraine gets the no-fly zone for free! It is because Spencer himself is used to getting everything for free.)

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Re: Ukraine
« Reply #177 on: March 18, 2022, 01:36:46 am »
" It is because Spencer himself is used to getting everything for free."
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/richard-spencer-cotton-farms-louisiana-subsidies/
 ;D ;D
Who's the "welfare queen" now?

Also, Spencer only wants a no-fly zone over the Western part, if I am reading him right. Whereas we would want it over the east as well, I assume, which viewed in conjunction with your idea, will effectively function as air support.

@Mazda
"The other option I think is that Putin suffers such a catastrophic defeat he is either removed from power by his own military or intelligence services, or he withdraws."
This will not end Turandom, which is our goal. The False Left (e.g. communist party of Russia), is also promoting this idea. But remember, it was under False Left Sovietism that Western Civilization thrived. So at the end of the day, it is about terminating those bloodlines which uphold Western Civilization, chiefly among those being Turandom.
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« Reply #178 on: March 18, 2022, 02:09:27 am »
"This will not end Turandom, which is our goal."

I think you misunderstood my point? I'm not personally doing anything in Russia and neither are you, as far as I can tell?

"The False Left (e.g. communist party of Russia), is also promoting this idea."

I wasn't promoting an idea.

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« Reply #179 on: March 18, 2022, 02:15:30 am »
Oh. I was just saying that the fourth option is not sufficient for ending Turandom, so therefore, we should not rely on it.

"I wasn't promoting an idea."
Ok. I was trying to say that the False Left is promoting the fourth option.