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"Between 1930s and 1940s, Nazi Germany researched and built operational ballistic missiles capable of suborbital spaceflight.

Missiles are weapons. Hitler needed the best possible weapons in order to fight the colonial powers. Similarly, I support today's Iran being nuclear-armed.

"If Operation Barbarossa had succeeded, all above will keep continue"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_in_Nazi_Germany

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There was widespread support for animal welfare in Nazi Germany[1] (German: Tierschutz im nationalsozialistischen Deutschland) among the country's leadership. Adolf Hitler and his top officials took a variety of measures to ensure animals were protected.[2]

Several Nazis were environmentalists, and species protection and animal welfare were significant issues in the Nazi regime.[3] Heinrich Himmler made an effort to ban the hunting of animals.[4] Hermann Göring was a professed animal lover and conservationist,[5] who, on instructions from Hitler, committed Germans who violated Nazi animal welfare laws to concentration camps. In his private diaries, Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a vegetarian whose hatred of the Jewish and Christian religions in large part stemmed from the ethical distinction these faiths drew between the value of humans and the value of other animals; Goebbels also mentions that Hitler planned to ban slaughterhouses in the German Reich following the conclusion of World War II.[6]

The current animal welfare laws in Germany were initially introduced by the Nazis.[7]
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the Nazis rejected anthropocentric reasons for animal protection—animals were to be protected for their own sake.[9] In 1927, a Nazi representative to the Reichstag called for actions against cruelty to animals and kosher butchering.[8]

In 1931, the Nazi Party (then a minority in the Reichstag) proposed a ban on vivisection, but the ban failed to attract support from other political parties. By 1933, after Hitler had ascended to the Chancellery and the Nazis had consolidated control of the Reichstag, the Nazis immediately held a meeting to enact the ban on vivisection. On April 21, 1933, almost immediately after the Nazis came to power, the parliament began to pass laws for the regulation of animal slaughter.[8] On April 21, a law was passed concerning the slaughter of animals; no animals were to be slaughtered without anesthetic.

On April 24, Order of the Prussian Ministry of the Interior was enacted regarding the slaughter of poikilotherms.[10] Germany was the first nation to ban vivisection.[11] A law imposing total ban on vivisection was enacted on August 16, 1933, by Hermann Göring as the prime minister of Prussia.[12] He announced an end to the "unbearable torture and suffering in animal experiments" and said that those who "still think they can continue to treat animals as inanimate property" will be sent to concentration camps.[8] On August 28, 1933, Göring announced in a radio broadcast:[13]

An absolute and permanent ban on vivisection is not only a necessary law to protect animals and to show sympathy with their pain, but it is also a law for humanity itself.... I have therefore announced the immediate prohibition of vivisection and have made the practice a punishable offense in Prussia. Until such time as punishment is pronounced the culprit shall be lodged in a concentration camp.[13]

Lab animals giving the Nazi salute to Hermann Göring for his order to ban vivisection. Caricature from Kladderadatsch, a satirical journal, September 1933. Göring prohibited vivisection and said that those who "still think they can continue to treat animals as inanimate property" would be sent to concentration camps.[8]

Göring also banned commercial animal trapping and imposed severe restrictions on hunting. He prohibited boiling of lobsters and crabs. In one incident, he sent a fisherman to a concentration camp[13] for cutting up a bait frog.[11]

On November 24, 1933, Nazi Germany enacted another law called Reichstierschutzgesetz (Reich Animal Protection Act), for protection of animals.[14][15] This law listed many prohibitions against the use of animals, including their use for filmmaking and other public events causing pain or damage to health,[16] feeding fowls forcefully and tearing out the thighs of living frogs.[17] The two principals (Ministerialräte) of the German Ministry of the Interior, Clemens Giese and Waldemar Kahler, who were responsible for drafting the legislative text,[15] wrote in their juridical comment from 1939, that by the law the animal was to be "protected for itself" ("um seiner selbst willen geschützt"), and made "an object of protection going far beyond the hitherto existing law" ("Objekt eines weit über die bisherigen Bestimmungen hinausgehenden Schutzes").[18]

On February 23, 1934, a decree was enacted by the Prussian Ministry of Commerce and Employment which introduced education on animal protection laws at primary, secondary and college levels.[10] On 3 July 1934, a law Das Reichsjagdgesetz (The Reich Hunting Law) was enacted which limited hunting. The act also created the German Hunting Society with a mission to educate the hunting community in ethical hunting. July 1, 1935, another law Reichsnaturschutzgesetz (Reich Nature Conservation Act) was passed to protect nature.[15] According to an article published in Kaltio, one of the main Finnish cultural magazines, Nazi Germany was the first state in the world to place the wolf under protection.[19] Nazi Germany "introduced the first legislation for the protection of wolves."[20]

In 1934, Nazi Germany hosted an international conference on animal welfare in Berlin.[21] On March 27, 1936, an order on the slaughter of living fish and other poikilotherms was enacted. On March 18 the same year, an order was passed on afforestation and on protection of animals in the wild.[10] On September 9, 1937, a decree was published by the Ministry of the Interior which specified guidelines for the transportation of animals.[22] In 1938, the Nazis introduced animal protection as a subject to be taught in public schools and universities in Germany.[21]

But you think Hitler would have allowed dogs to be sent into outer space?

"it doesn't mean that Nazism are morally better than communism"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_welfare_and_rights_in_Russia

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In 2010, there were over 445 million chickens on Russian farms. 77 percent of these were on agricultural enterprises (as opposed to households and peasant farms), up from 68 percent in 2005.[2]

A similar trend towards agricultural enterprises in pig farming was observed: from 2005 to 2010, agricultural enterprises increased pig inventories from 7 million to 11 million while rural households decreased from 6 million to 5.6 million.
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Russian chicken and pig production has increasingly moved towards an intensive farming model.[2] There are no regulations on animal farming other than the general anti-cruelty provision in the Penal Code. De-beaking, de-toeing, tail-docking, tooth pulling, castration, and dehorning of livestock without anaesthetic are legal, as is confinement in gestation crates and battery cages.[1]

In 2014, Russian fishermen caught an estimated 4.215 million metric tons of wild fish.[3]
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Testing cosmetics on animals is legal in Russia.
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As of 2013 Russia was the world's largest fur market; 80% of Russians wear fur during the winter. It is also one of the fastest-growing markets for luxury furs.[6]

Russia is a major producer of mink, with roughly 2.7 million pelts in 2011. Russia also produced about 120,000 fox skins in 2011.[6]

Fur animals are raised on fur farms, which are unregulated except for the anti-cruelty provisions in the Penal Code, as well as trapped. The most popular form of trapping in Russia is the leg hold trap, which has been banned in 90 countries for being inhumane.[7]

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Missiles are weapons. Hitler needed the best possible weapons in order to fight the colonial powers. Similarly, I support today's Iran being nuclear-armed.

Missiles are weapons. Hitler needed the best possible weapons in order to fight the colonial powers.  to protect his remaining community of "white" people which still remain pure and not bastardized like French and United States people which it's "colored black" population growing among "white" people's community which Hitler very hate of that thing, and protect his "white" community from anti-racist Stalinist red people

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"If Operation Barbarossa had succeeded, all above will keep continue"

Animal Welfare in Nazi Germany - Wikipedia

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"it doesn't mean that Nazism are morally better than communism"

Animal Welfare and Rights in Russia - Wikipedia

I even not talk about Russia now, but about the difference of two European ideologies on morality, Nazism support "white supremacy" like other Western European nations, which I consider bad communism support solidarity of workers around the world whether you are "called as racially inferior" or racially ugly, which I consider more better than it, I still more close towards Islamism than both of European ideology which I mention, and if we talk about morality on non-humans, better we use veganist movement and ideology as comparison to moral movement which is not yet supporting better treatment to non-humans, if you support emphatic treatment to non-humans and oppose racism, Nazism cannot be your primary source of ideology and cannot be justified as noble ideology




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I still more close towards Islamism

You aren't even Muslim!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/?message=8656

Transcend material existence, huh? People who have scientific and rational thinking will laugh at you if you consider that transcendence theory, or about afterlife theory is real, I don't believe in transcendence or so-called "afterlife" no every single of people prove that there is an another realm other than this world which we are live in, so no need to believe that funny and ridiculous doctrine of many spiritual religion, they are spreading liar speculation propaganda and trash, and I consider that aim to establish an utopian society is positive struggle of people to get freedom and luxury

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I even not talk about Russia now, but about the difference of two European ideologies on morality, Nazism support "white supremacy" like other Western European nations....

Jews are "whites". Are you saying Nazis supported Jews now also? The British are "whites", so are the French. Did the Nazis support the British and the French too now, in your ridiculous nonsensical worldview?

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I still more close towards Islamism

You aren't even Muslim!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/?message=8656

Transcend material existence, huh? People who have scientific and rational thinking will laugh at you if you consider that transcendence theory, or about afterlife theory is real, I don't believe in transcendence or so-called "afterlife" no every single of people prove that there is an another realm other than this world which we are live in, so no need to believe that funny and ridiculous doctrine of many spiritual religion, they are spreading liar speculation propaganda and trash, and I consider that aim to establish an utopian society is positive struggle of people to get freedom and luxury

And he likes wearing Western suits:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-dress-decolonization/msg5881/#msg5881

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Jews are "whites". Are you saying Nazis supported Jews now also?...

Even Jewish people not consider them as "white"

Source : https://www.atlantajewishtimes.com/are-jews-white-yes-and-no/

"I suspect that more of us are aware of and personally acquainted with “Jews of color,” a catch-all that by varying definitions includes African Americans, Latinos, Asians, Sephardim, and Mizrahim; though not all may self-identify as such. Estimates of this population range from the 12 to 15 percent in a May 2019 study by researchers from Stanford University and the University of San Francisco to the 6 percent cited in a 2013 Pew Research Center report. Whatever the figure, the phrase highlights, for American Jews and non-Jews alike, the diversity in a community too often and too easily stereotyped as white and/or Ashkenazi.

My 2016 column began with a story told by playwright Alfred Uhry, whose Atlanta trilogy (“Driving Miss Daisy,” “Last Night at Ballyhoo,” and “Parade”) deals with issues of assimilation, anti-Semitism, and racism. Growing up in Atlanta in the 1940s, Uhry was told, “We’re not white; we’re Jewish.”

Uhry said much the same last month, as the keynote speaker for the inaugural Janice Rothschild Blumberg Lecture, sponsored by The Breman Museum, the Southern Jewish Historical Society, and The Temple. “We Jews were not quite white, not like the echelon we wanted to be in. And black people certainly weren’t white. So we were all kind of ‘other,’” he told an online audience."

Even Hitler said that Jewish people are culturaly same like Mongol people whom he considered as "barbaric", so Hitler against Jewish people, because they also "non-white"

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...The British are "whites", so are the French. Did the Nazis support the British and the French too now, in your ridiculous nonsensical worldview?

Nazi not seriously attacked Britain, Hitler admired Britain and their colonial empire, he many times send peace agreement to Britain, that is the proof of Hitler support and Nazi movement support them, and on French, when Nazi troops occupied French, her colonial territory still continued to be administrated by French colonial government which exist on that colonial territory, Nazi authority still allowed them to did colonialism this also happen to Netherlands and Belgium, their colonial territory still exist during Nazi occupation, and also when Hitler ally with Italy under Mussolini leadership, he did not appeal Mussolini to end his Italian colonial rule in North Africa and Ethiopia, it means Hitler and Nazi movement not seriously to reduce his support of oppressive domination of European power to the world, and if Hitler really seriously against colonialism, he also send troops to colonial territory of Western European nations which he conquered to liberate them


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You aren't even Muslim!

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/questions-regarding-aryanism/?message=8656

I say that I closely to muslim, even I am not following muslim as a whole, I support them

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And he likes wearing Western suits:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-dress-decolonization/msg5881/#msg5881

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I like Western suits only because of it's quality and comfortable to be seen by other people, it makes me look handsome, not because it invented by Western "white" people

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Re: Atlantic Alliance Drifting Apart?
« Reply #112 on: September 17, 2021, 10:54:45 pm »
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Xi is an utter moron with no understanding of Duginism. The Atlantic countries are the ones he should be trying to ally with against Turandom. By instead strengthening Turandom, he is only assisting their objective of preventing Operation Gaddafi from succeeding.

This is the result of Atlantic countries Anglophile alliance :

Source : https://news.detik.com/berita/d-5727980/indonesia-cermati-hati-hati-australia-mau-punya-kapal-selam-nuklir

Indonesia Pays Attention to Australia's Willing to Have a Nuclear Submarine

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"Jakarta - Australia has decided to build a nuclear-powered submarine fleet with the help of the US and UK following the signing of a new defense alliance agreement between the three countries. Indonesia is concerned about Australia's decision.

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"Indonesia emphasizes the importance of Australia's commitment to continue to fulfill its obligations regarding nuclear non-proliferation. Indonesia encourages Australia to continue to fulfill its obligations to maintain peace, stability and security in the region in accordance with the Treaty of Amity and Cooperation," said the Indonesian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

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In a series of media interviews, Australian Prime Minister (PM) Scott Morrison said his government was reacting to the changing dynamics in the Asia-Pacific region where territory is increasingly contested and competition is intensifying.

In an interview with Channel Seven television, Morrison said Australia was "very aware" of China's nuclear submarine capabilities and growing military investment.""

Pan-Atlanticism is only good for Western European nations


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« Reply #113 on: October 02, 2021, 08:38:20 pm »
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You still don't get it. Even if they had zero Jews/Jewish bloodlines, they would still be bad guys based on their behaviour alone! That you fail to understand even this further confirms your unsuitability for explaining our ideology to others.

How you can give a good proposal to many non-Western nations who have no problem with Russia and Eastern Europe to against them, we are mostly endangered by Western European economic system like International Monetary Fund (I.M.F.) which give debt with high interest to our community of nations, Wall Street, and Berkeley economic mafia who are created from United States university of economic study? If you can answer this, I will reconsider my political view towards Russia

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"we are mostly endangered by"

This is your problem: you think in terms of self-interest.

You are simply not a morally minded person. If you were, you would not consider whether another country endangers your own country, but instead would consider the intrinsic quality of that country. Until you can do the latter, there is no point talking to you.



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This is your problem: you think in terms of self-interest.

You are simply not a morally minded person. If you were, you would not consider whether another country endangers your own country, but instead would consider the intrinsic quality of that country. Until you can do the latter, there is no point talking to you.

Alright, if we see the differences between Russia, Eastern Europe and the Anglophiles, Russia and Eastern European people are ideologically conservatives, which according to you are morally bad, but their government's foreign political policies is rarely harming a nation and forcing them to follow their ideology, therefore their government good, but their people are bad if you despise conservative ideology, the Anglophile people are ideologically liberal democracy with 1960s counterculture-inspired culture, which according to you are good, but their government are bad, they like to attacking other nations who are ideologically different and also have economic system which different from them, so their government are bad, the question is, why you still prefer the Anglophiles who are make more destructive behaviour rather than the Russia and Eastern European people, is reluctance to accept refugees and immigrants is a big crime and morally worse rather than world scale intervention, invasion, agression, and economic exploitation?


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"their government's foreign political policies is rarely harming a nation and forcing them to follow their ideology, therefore their government good"

Jews never try to convert others to Judaism. Muslims want everyone to become Muslim eventually. Who are the better people?

"they like to attacking other nations who are ideologically different"

So do I! If I had unlimited power, I would attack every non-vegan country in the world simultaneously! I know some vegans who claim to care about animal welfare but who think it is wrong to use war to end cruelty to animals. Who truly cares about animal welfare: me or them?

"why you still prefer the Anglophiles who are make more destructive behaviour"

Because I support destruction. Only great destruction can bring about great changes.

As I keep saying, the problem with the US is not its readiness to destroy, but only that it has mostly been destroying the WRONG TARGETS. Once it switches to the CORRECT TARGETS, its readiness to destroy is exactly what the world needs.

My greatest fear is that the US will pick up the idea (from useful idiots like you) that destroying targets is bad at the same the time as it finally learns what the correct targets are.

"is reluctance to accept refugees and immigrants is a big crime and morally worse"

Yes. Keeping borders closed is the surest sign that a country does not regret its past and has no intention of changing. In contrast, opening borders is the surest sign that a country does regret its past and sincerely wants to change.
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Re: "Royal" Family hate thread
« Reply #117 on: February 10, 2022, 12:20:38 am »
Thai history said if not for Nicholas II and Thai kings, Thailand could be non-existent or be divided by the French and the British.

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Jews never try to convert others to Judaism. Muslims want everyone to become Muslim eventually. Who are the better people?

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"they like to attacking other nations who are ideologically different"

So do I! If I had unlimited power, I would attack every non-vegan country in the world simultaneously! I know some vegans who claim to care about animal welfare but who think it is wrong to use war to end cruelty to animals. Who truly cares about animal welfare: me or them?

If United States and their Western European allies not sending their agents to distort our Islamic teachings to liberalism, Faustian, Aristotelian, and Homerus teachings masquerade as psychological education and democratization of our people through work with some of people from large Islamic Organization Nahdlatul Ulama (NU) and Muhammadiyah, instead they have no problem with Islamic teachings based on Habib Rizieq Shihab interpretation, which is anti Western, anti Democratic, anti Liberal, anti Capitalist, and anti-Communist, we will less hostile to your belovedly nation, Jeffersonian Republic

Our nation became more liberal because of your nation's secret agenda of liberalization, and of course you hate liberalism too

This is Habib Rizieq Shihab message to our people through his book, created on 2011 :

Translation in English colonial language :

"Liberal And Nation Building

The concept of National Building promoted by International Liberals to build a National State is a very dangerous racist and fascist concept. Racist because this concept maintains racial, ethnic and national differences in building a country. Fascist because it encourages a race or ethnic group to be hostile to other races or ethnic groups, so that it becomes a feature of national governments around the world to be authoritarian towards groups that are considered not native to their nation or who are considered to threaten the integrity of their national groups. Just look at how the Native American Indians were ostracized by the "American Nation States" because they were deemed not to be American. And see also, how Aboriginal people in Australia are made second class citizens by the "Australian Nationality" because they are considered less nationally Australia. Well, if only the natives were removed by the Nationality State Concept, let alone immigrants. Just look at the treatment of the "French Nationality" which discriminates against immigrants openly.

Democracy is the name of the Liberal political tool to market the racist and fascist concept of the nation state. Capitalism is the name of the liberal economic tool to strengthen the position of a race or group in the midst of other races or groups. Socialism is the name of another economic tool of the Liberals to counterbalance Capitalism which is controlled by other Liberals who are rivals and rivals of their fellow Liberals. So, Nation Building is different from the Islamic system which crosses race, ethnicity and nation. In the Islamic system all racist and fascist barriers are abolished. Therefore, the Liberals hate the Islamic system which is considered a barrier to their passion for racism and fascism. That's why, I call Liberals Racist and Fascist Kingpins"

Source : "Hancurkan Liberalisme, Tegakkan Syariat Islam" - Habib Rizieq Shihab page 19



"In the official report "Rand Corporation" it is stated that the US Department of State and the US Agency for International Development (USAID) have made "contracts" with international NGOs such as The National Endowment for Democracy (NED), The International Republican Institute (IRI), The National Democratic Institute (NDI), The Center for The Study of Islam and Democracy (CSID) and The Asia Foundation. In addition, there are other NGOs formed by the Zionist International (Freemasonry / Illuminati) that have good relations with the "Rand Corporation", such as the Ford Foundation and Rockefeller.

the contract. to build a "Worldwide Network of Liberal Muslims - Moderates of the United States" In order to make the program a success, the United States has spent billions of dollars. US$ 700 million/year has been disbursed by the US for the Middle East, while for Indonesia, US$ 60 million has been disbursed for 2004, US$ 78 million for 2005, and US$ 84 for year. 2006, US $ 96 million for 2007, US $ 143 million for 2008 and US $ 184 million for 2009.

In Indonesia, the most persistent in carrying out the Religious Liberalization program with the US program is the AKKBB (National Alliance for Freedom of Religion and Belief), which is a liquid alliance that brings together less than 65 organizations, NGOs, sects and religions, including: Indonesian Language Conference on Religion and Peace (ICRP), National Integration Movement (NIM), The Wahid Institute, Tifa Foundation, Kontras, YLBHI, eLSAM, Campus Islamic Network (JIK), Liberal Islam Network (JIL), Women's Journal Foundation, Institute for Religious and Philosophical Studies ( LSAF), Society for Interfaith Dialogue, National Alliance for Unity in Diversity, Institute for the Study of Religion and Gender, Tunas Muda Indonesia Foundation, and the Indonesian Ahmadiyya Congregation (JAI)."

Source : "Hancurkan Liberalisme, Tegakkan Syariat Islam" - Habib Rizieq Shihab page 30

The result of spreadment wrong ideology from the United States and Western Europe is, people like Ade Armando, Denny Siregar, Cania Citta Irlanie, Yorien Hallatu, Akhmad Sahal, Saidiman Ahmad, Syafiq Hasyim, Gobind Vashdev, Qintara Aninditha, Analisa Widyaningrum, Prita Ghozie and many others who are ideologically liberals and Faustian have a power on media propaganda, because our government which it's leader more sympathetic to way of life of pluralism and moderatism, more support towards them, and ban the anti-Zionist movement which led by Grand Imam Habib Rizieq Shihab, who are not only oppose Jews, but also all of Western ideology and way of life, our government consider them as "radicals"

So, that is why we not yet believe that we can less hostile, and even make an alliance with United States and Western European nations, now you understand?

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Just look at how the Native American Indians were ostracized by the "American Nation States" because they were deemed not to be American.

Exactly! And this is why Rizieq should ally with Native American activist groups who are now taking down statues of the Western colonialists who stole the land from the existing inhabitants, and exposing their atrocities. We hate the same people!

Note, however, that homophobia never existed in pre-colonial America:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/homophobia-is-not-american/

So if Rizieq is homophobic, then he should instead support the Western colonialists who introduced homophobia to America.

Which is more important to Rizieq? Anti-Westernism or homophobia?

I know what is most important to you, though:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/aryanism's-hostility-towards-russia-and-eastern-european-people/msg8718/#msg8718

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I like Western suits only because of it's quality and comfortable to be seen by other people, it makes me look handsome

So here you go:



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