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« on: November 13, 2022, 01:50:03 pm »
Can i be jewish even tho I'm not racially jewish?

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2022, 04:35:07 pm »
If you read the Tanakh and identify with the Sethites/Israelites, I would consider you at least Jewish enough to be prohibited from reproducing, irrespective of your ancestry. Racially Jewish =/= ancestrally Jewish. You may have no Jewish ancestors, but your tendency to identify with the Sethites/Israelites may nevertheless be heritable by your own descendants if you were to have any.

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2022, 12:43:31 pm »
I've never read the tanakh, can you post a few passages that talk about the Sethites/Israelites?


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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2022, 01:35:20 am »
Can you give me any advice or information on how to remove these Judaic tendencies within me

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2022, 01:47:29 am »
Please list which specific Judaic tendencies you are referring to.

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2022, 01:17:03 pm »
I dont know if i have judaic tendencies or not, you said that i have a tendency  to identify with the Sethites/Israelites and i trust your judgment. So can you explain how i do this, and also how to destroy it.   

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2022, 01:32:10 pm »
"you said that i have a tendency  to identify with the Sethites/Israelites"

I said no such thing.

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2022, 01:41:32 pm »
Are all people with Turanian blood memory ancestrally jewish? Or is being ancestrally jewish something different?

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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2022, 03:27:20 pm »
No. Jews qualitatively diverged from other Turanians during:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/esau-and-jacob/

While it is the case that Jews have subsequently absorbed many non-Israelite Turanian bloodlines, there were plenty with Turanian blood who never converted. So while Jews may also have non-Jewish Turanian blood memory in addition to Jewish blood memory, having Turanian blood memory definitely does not imply Jewishness.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2022, 12:41:58 pm »
Ok so based on the information you have given me I've come to the the conclusion that being ancestrally jewish requires two aspects, biological and religious. Biologically one needs to be a turanian herding milk drinker and religiously one needs to be willing to sell there soul to jehovah in exchange for superior levels of material knowledge and wealth, like abraham or faust did. Is this correct?

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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2022, 04:44:04 pm »
"Biologically one needs to be a turanian herding milk drinker and religiously one needs to be willing to sell there soul to jehovah in exchange for superior levels of material knowledge and wealth, like abraham or faust did. Is this correct?"

No, many non-Jews satisfy both the conditions you listed. Most materialist progressives are Judeo-"Christians" or (increasingly) atheists, not Jews, while also being lactose-tolerant.

For practical purposes, it doesn't really matter whether someone is ancestrally Jewish. If they claim to have Israelite blood, we will believe them. Whereas if they have Jewish parents but are trying to claim they themselves are not Jewish, we will believe them only if they voluntarily refrain from reproducing.

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2022, 01:09:32 pm »
So israelites believe that there god's(yhvh) chosen or god's(yhvh) favorite, and they use this belief as justification to act and behave in whatever way they want?

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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2022, 01:17:39 pm »
and any type of people can express the isrealite tendency, although it is most strongly expressed by the jews

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Re: jewishness
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2022, 06:18:46 pm »
"So israelites believe that there god's(yhvh) chosen or god's(yhvh) favorite, and they use this belief as justification to act and behave in whatever way they want?"

Yes. OK, not quite in whatever way they want; they do have to follow Yahweh's instructions. But Yahweh's instructions are:



"and any type of people can express the isrealite tendency, although it is most strongly expressed by the jews"

And to add to the confusion, some non-Jews (e.g. Kanye) who claim to be Israelites however do not claim to be Jews, but instead claim that Jews are fake Israelites.