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Re: Denmark
« on: May 01, 2021, 04:18:47 am »
All nationalists are in someway "Racist" aren't they? What do you guys think that Denmark should do ? I mean Denmark is a socialist state with equality between the genders which you guys also  support the problem is, Islam does not believe in Equality between the genders?

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Re: Re: Denmark
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 04:33:58 am »
"All nationalists are in someway "Racist" aren't they?"

No:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/refugees-welcome/msg5791/#msg5791

"What do you guys think that Denmark should do ?"

Let all refugees who want to stay do so, and all who want to come in do so.

"Islam does not believe in Equality between the genders?"

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/re-genghis-khan/msg4142/#msg4142

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Re: Re: Denmark
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2021, 10:17:02 am »
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"Islam does not believe in Equality between the genders?"

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/re-genghis-khan/msg4142/#msg4142

But at the same time in islam men can have multiple wives? and btw according to Danish women they have all the freedom they want? Here in Denmark Women arent the ones who date outside the nation in fact Danish men are the ones who date foreign people whereas in other countries like Britain and America it is the opposite
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/10/and-the-least-feminist-nation-in-the-world-is-denmark


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Re: Re: Denmark
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2021, 01:46:38 pm »
"islam men can have multiple wives?"

There is no violence involved in this. Existing wives must unanimously consent to each new wife:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Islam#Polygamy

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A bride-to-be may include terms in her marriage contract that require monogamy for her husband or require her consent before he marries another wife.[80]

From your article:

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a third said that wolf whistling at women in the street was acceptable, and two in five had an unfavourable view of the #MeToo movement.
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“You can grab a woman, but so long as you did it because it was ‘fun’, then culturally we tend to think it’s not that bad.”
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Only 4% of men and 8% of women in Denmark questioned in the survey said they had a ‘very favourable’ impression of the #MeToo movement

Thank you for showing Danish inferiority.

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She suspects the resistance to seeing harassment as a problem might also reflect the way politicians in Denmark have argued abuse of women is only an issue among the country’s Muslims.

Thank you for showing Danish bigotry also.

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Re: Re: Denmark
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2021, 02:03:59 pm »
Should mention also Equal Opportunity is not the same as general Equality. People are not equal and could never be, but all people deserve equal opportunity irrespective of their differences.

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Re: Re: Denmark
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2021, 02:27:11 pm »
"islam men can have multiple wives?"

There is no violence involved in this. Existing wives must unanimously consent to each new wife:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_Islam#Polygamy

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A bride-to-be may include terms in her marriage contract that require monogamy for her husband or require her consent before he marries another wife.[80]

From your article:

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a third said that wolf whistling at women in the street was acceptable, and two in five had an unfavourable view of the #MeToo movement.
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“You can grab a woman, but so long as you did it because it was ‘fun’, then culturally we tend to think it’s not that bad.”
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Only 4% of men and 8% of women in Denmark questioned in the survey said they had a ‘very favourable’ impression of the #MeToo movement

Thank you for showing Danish inferiority.

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She suspects the resistance to seeing harassment as a problem might also reflect the way politicians in Denmark have argued abuse of women is only an issue among the country’s Muslims.

Thank you for showing Danish bigotry also.

So you deny that there is a violence problem against women in Islam ?
I grew up with immigrants from middle east, so I know all about them! It has nothing to do with bigotry, but FACTS! they even admit this themselves 

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Re: Re: Denmark
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2021, 03:09:07 pm »
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So you deny that there is a violence problem against women in Islam ?

So, you deny that there is a violence problem on planet earth that all human-beings participate in?

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Research by the University of Otago showed a rise in indicative male violence along with growing feelings of despondency and helplessness amid the Covid-19 pandemic.
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/coronavirus/?message=5991

Just because someone claims to be an American whilst draping themselves in the American flag and adorning it's iconography does not mean that their claim is true. Just because someone claims to be a Christian because they wear a cross around their neck does not make it so. Just because someone claims to be a Muslim because they pray five times a day to Allah does not necessarily make it true either does it?

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Women's Rights

The Quran states that men and women were created to be equal parts of a pair. Muhammad said that the rights of women are sacred and that they are the “twin halves of men”. Considering women in Britain received the right to vote, inherit and own property thirteen centuries later, Muhammad’s campaigns were both radical and revolutionary.

Muslim women gained full ownership over their money, while husbands had the responsibility to provide for them even if their wives were wealthier than them. Women had the right to divorce instantly on returning the dowry, something other religions don't allow. One duty enjoined upon them was that of education. Early Islamic history saw the establishment of Muslim women as scholars, politicians, businesswomen, jurists and doctors. Fatima al Firhi founded the first university in 859 in Fez, Morocco; Razia al Din ruled the Delhi Sultanate in India in 1236; Umm Darda, a scholar from Syria, taught imams, jurists and even had the 5th Umayyad caliph who ruled from Spain to India as her student. In fact some eight thousand accounts of Muslim female scholars have been documented, many of whom in addition to theology and jurisprudence, were skilled in calligraphy and philosophy, women who not only contributed to their society but actively shaped it.

The fruits of Muhammad’s reforms are as visible now as they have been throughout history. Today, Muslim women in Britain are achieving positions of status and respect as police officers, lawyers, entrepreneurs, medics, social activists, MPs and peers in the House of Lords. Remaining true to the ideals cemented 1,430 years ago, Muslim women were and still are role models for future generations.
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/inspired-by-muhammad/

So, you pretend to be unbiased and not a bigot, yet you cannot differentiate between true Muslims and those that pretend to be Muslims, and then you use the latter to try and prove that people who pretend to be Muslims represent the ideals of all of Islam?

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The young college student was interested in Islam and seriously considering converting. Some say he already had. But upon further questioning, he revealed that while he really liked many things about Islam, what was hindering him was how women were treated in the religion. I don’t know if anyone ever tried to answer his questions and concerns, but I do know that after about a year, members of the Muslim Students’ Association at my school never saw him again.

Regardless of whether this young man ultimately accepted Islam or not, the issue he raised over twenty years ago is one that remains a problem for Muslims today. “Muslims oppress women” is still the mantra Islamophobes routinely tout to justify all kinds of intolerance and anti-Muslim agendas, whether that is on college campuses, online forums, television programs, or in private political meetings.

And the sad reality is that there is still a grain of truth to that accusation.  Muslims, inside and outside of the Muslim world, often fail to live up to Islam’s ideals when it comes to half of the Ummah.
https://www.soundvision.com/article/6-tips-on-raising-muslim-men-who-respect-women

Save your bullshit for your illiterate peers, it will not work here.

Lastly, when are you going to start calling out what Judaism and Judeo-Christianity teach in regards to women, after-all your REALLY care about women's equality, correct? You're full of shyte!!!

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Marriage and family law in biblical times favored men over women. For example, a husband could divorce a wife if he chose to, but a wife could not divorce a husband without his consent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Judaism

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Re: Denmark
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2021, 02:09:09 am »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/denmark-tells-syrians-leave-separating-061944197.html

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COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — An email brought Faeza Satouf’s world to a standstill.

The 25-year-old Syrian refugee had fled the civil war with her family in an all-too-familiar journey across the sea to Europe, where they finally arrived in Denmark and were granted asylum in 2015. Yet six years later, she was being told she had to go back — alone, and soon.
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In the past six years, Satouf has learned Danish, graduated from high school with flying colors and is now studying to be a nurse while working in a supermarket. She can’t understand why a country that encouraged integration and which needs nurses amid a pandemic would expel her and others, mainly women.

Hint: it has something to do with "whiteness".

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Because Denmark has no diplomatic relations with Syria, those who refuse to leave the country cannot be sent to Syria. Instead, they are sent to deportation centers, separated from family, unable to work and withdrawn from education programs.

Single women are likely to be sent to the Kaershovedgaard deportation center, a remote complex of buildings about 300 kilometers (185 miles) west of Copenhagen. Access is strictly limited, but Red Cross photos show rudimentary infrastructure where cooking is banned and activities are restricted. Even Danish language lessons are not allowed.
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The policy is the product of a left-wing Social Democratic-led government, whose immigration stance has come to resemble that of far-right parties after years of large migrations peaked in 2015 with 1 million new arrivals in Europe. The large numbers of people coming from Africa and the Middle East energized populist movements across the continent, pushing parties that had a more welcoming position to embrace stricter policies.
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“We used to be known as one of the most humanitarian countries in Europe, with a lot of freedom, a lot of respect for human rights,” says Michala Bendixen, the head of Refugees Welcome Denmark, a non-governmental group. Now, she notes, Denmark’s policies look much more like those of countries with hard-line immigration policies, like Hungary.

The ultimate goal, Bendixen believes, is “making it less attractive for refugees and foreigners to arrive in Denmark.”

On Wednesday, hundreds of people gathered in front of parliament to protest the deportation orders, surrounded by Danish friends, classmates and work colleagues.

Addressing the crowd, a nervous Satouf told her story.

Others also spoke: A brother and sister facing separation, siblings whose residence permits were expiring the next day, a high school student surrounded by her Danish classmates, a single woman who couldn’t comprehend how Denmark, with its claim to uphold and defend women’s rights, could be doing this.

Answer: Denmark cares only about "white" women.

It is time drop your delusions. Denmark is part of Western civilization. This is how Western civilization behaves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_overseas_colonies

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_slave_trade

And what about this one?https://sjobst.blogspot.com/2016/12/europeans-jews-muslims-and-legacy-of.html?m=1