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People with "Aryan phenotype"
« on: May 29, 2022, 12:50:41 am »
According to my observation accross the city, people with "Aryan" face shape and body type tend to live in luxury and work on high expertise job and high salary. It's mean being "Aryan" means being capitalist and materialist?

And many people with so-called "non-Aryan" face and body type tend to live in poor and frugal place, and tend to work on simple job and got minimum salary.

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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2022, 04:15:18 am »
"According to my observation accross the city, people with "Aryan" face shape and body type tend to live in luxury and work on high expertise job and high salary. It's mean being "Aryan" means being capitalist and materialist?"

I have no clue what you are talking about:









The only rich people more likely than usual to have Aryan face shapes are actors who were deliberately selected for their looks:





"And many people with so-called "non-Aryan" face and body type tend to live in poor and frugal place, and tend to work on simple job and got minimum salary."

Aryan face shape is rare in the first place, so of course most poor people will have non-Aryan face shape.
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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2022, 07:40:16 pm »
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In my observance most famous Nusantaran people today whose face shape is "Aryan" face shape are ideologically liberal or something leftist idea. They show their true political and way of life through their Instagram post. Most of them are celebrities, artist, social media influencer, or politicians from a party which it's ideological program are left-leaning. And their face is like youngling even tough they already 35 years old and above. Is this coincidental with Aryanism community's racial theory?

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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2022, 09:05:13 pm »
Yes, I believe more physiognomically neotenous people are more likely to be left-leaning. But so far we have not been able to test meaningfully whether more neotenous people are more likely to prefer False Leftism or True Leftism with other factors equal, due to True Leftism currently lacking the mainstream acceptance that False Leftism possesses. My theory predicts that, if True Leftism were to one day become as normalized as False Leftism is (which is what we are here to make happen), then more of the more neotenous types will prefer True Leftism whereas more of those who prefer False Leftism will tend to look more like, for example, the body-positivity subhumans pictured here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-anti-relativism/msg13931/#msg13931



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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2022, 09:29:54 pm »
If the people with "Aryan" type were dominate on this world someday. Are they will keep procreating? Because according to you the "Aryans" are perfect human whose their body aesthetically good-looking and they are wished to be physically healthy... And they will make a new civilization after the defeat of modern civilization.

So, they will make the material world good for live but the different is without any wasteful and complex machines, so, are they keep procreating and enjoy living on the Creator's world whom we should hate? I think they will have more s*x and make more babies because they already feel perfect to each other

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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2022, 10:37:31 pm »
"Are they will keep procreating?"

Only long enough to ensure that other bloodlines have been eliminated first.

"Because according to you the "Aryans" are perfect human whose their body aesthetically good-looking and they are wished to be physically healthy..."

Perfect humans would be so neotenous as to be physically incapable of reproducing. The fact that Aryan bloodlines exist is evidence that Aryans are not perfect humans, but merely good enough to figure out what perfect humans should be like (see bold).

Hopefully we can eventually breed a batch of fully neotenous humans as the endpoint of National Socialism, but such a batch would by definition be the last generation.

"are they keep procreating and enjoy living on the Creator's world whom we should hate?"

No. Anyone who suggests doing this would be revealed as our enemy.

"I think they will have more s*x and make more babies because they already feel perfect to each other"

If so, then that would be evidence that our breeding program went wrong. If our breeding program does not go wrong, each new generation will be more neotenous than the previous, until eventually we reach the last generation that will physically remain children their entire lives. Because:




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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2022, 11:58:38 pm »
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Perfect humans would be so neotenous as to be physically incapable of reproducing.

Hitler was so neotenous, even his vital organ reported as unable to reproduce. And indeed he doesn't wanted to reproduce. He also behave like an early child who doesn't  eat meat, always gloomy on photo, and like ranting when the conditions being not suitable to his ideals. Different to Western behaviour's norms which order people to speak correctly and alter the emotions even though it's needed to show that there are oppression around us. Because feelings are something that Westerners dislike.

This is how the not Westernized people's speak when the oppression happens : (See from minute 01 : 18 until end)

Adolf Hitler



Saddam Hussein (From 00 : 24)



Habib Mohammad Rizieq Shihab (From 01 : 20)



(He talked about spread Islamic messages, and confront the people who spread a post which against Islam on social media, or jihad on social media)

Compare them to how Westerners speak : (See from the video begin until 00 : 33)

United States's former president George Warren Bush Junior



British Queen Elizabeth



British Prime Minister Winston Churchill (See from 00 : 32 until 00 : 49)








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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2022, 03:38:05 am »
You are exaggerating Hitler's physical neoteny. Yes, we are Hitler fans, but let's not mix behaviour with physiognomy. This is Hitler during WWI:



He has an oval face, of course, but look at his dense moustache! Also, this is Hitler's voice:



This is an adult male voice.

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A voice change or voice mutation, sometimes referred to as a voice break or voice crack, commonly refers to the deepening of the voice of people as they reach puberty. Before puberty, both sexes have roughly similar vocal pitch, but during puberty the male voice typically deepens an octave, while the female voice usually deepens only by a few tones.[1][2][3]
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Children are able to sing in the same octave as women. When the voices of male teenagers break, they are no longer able to sing in the same octave.

Using voice as a measure of neoteny, Hitler is less neotenous than an average present-day woman. Whereas our racial ideal would be people whose voices do not deepen at all.
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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2023, 04:18:57 pm »
Since sexual dimorphism was mentioned in the Facial Aryanism topic in Human Evolution, it reminded me of this topic. Though it is also a one time attempt for kameradbaren (guest30) to debate with 90sRetroFan, I'm gonna try to coincide with the etymology of the topic's name like I did before. Here's my take.

Using voice as a measure of neoteny, Hitler is less neotenous than an average present-day woman. Whereas our racial ideal would be people whose voices do not deepen at all.

I searched to see if there are males whose voices don't deepen. Apparently there's a term called puberphonia, which is seen as a condition focused on the vocal chords instead of the person's phenotype, such as:



You can tell the patient's jaw, chin and throat is pretty slim, not to mention the minimal facial hair and that you can almost see an overbite (though I don't know how long the nose is). That is low sexual dimorphism. However, the patient wasn't too self-confident to go to an expert to higher their sexual dimorphism and deepen their voice. This it reveals the lack of cuteness in the influence of western culture, due to altering (which shares the same PIE root to 'adult' and 'altruism'). When anything is altered, the quality lowers. Majority of adults are basically altered children. Puberphonic voices in male adults top majority of the other male adults' voices in terms of neoteny and sexual dimorphism



Again, if 90sRetroFan wants to reply, thank you. Though I'd still encourage 90sRF to work on updating the Aryanism blog. I still want feedback though.

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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2023, 06:40:35 pm »
"go to an expert to higher their sexual dimorphism and deepen their voice"

My parents forced me to do this when I was a teenager. Fortunately, the expert failed.

"This it reveals the lack of cuteness in the influence of western culture"

I also covered this point here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg9278/#msg9278

Here is another example of Western dubbing ruining voices. Original Kurama voice:



Westernized Kurama voice:



Though I am not sure "cuteness" is the best descriptor, as the term often connotes lack of seriousness, whereas low sexual dimorphism characters are not generally less serious than high sexual dimorphism characters.

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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2023, 07:05:44 pm »
I have a relatively Aryan-looking face but a very deep voice. People have often commented how my voice doesn't match my body. When I was in school, I found that my deep voice could command respect, but from all the wrong types of people (i.e. Gentile women), while previously these same subhumans would not respect me. I appreciated the fact that they were respecting me, but I did not appreciate the fact that my voice had to deepen for them to do so, as it felt like I had to change my original personality for validation. In effect, I ended up not appreciating the respect either.

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2023, 05:47:19 pm »
Fat-shaming sometimes even improves the gene pool:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/baseball-phenom-13-dies-suicide-091254899.html

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Baseball phenom, 13, dies by suicide. He came home from school, left video: 'I hate my life'
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Terry was a baseball phenom. There had been talk in Covington about moving Terry up to the varsity team this spring as a seventh grader, said his grandpa, the eldest Terry Badger. He was a third baseman and pitcher who could throw 71 miles an hour and who batted .400 last season, including a home run that sailed more than 300 feet.

Terry had 27 home runs in his career. He signed and saved every one of those balls. He had too many championship trophies to count, too many to fit on the shelves in his bedroom. Terry was looking forward to the upcoming season playing for Indiana Nitro Gold, the top travel team in the Westfield organization's 13U age division.
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Terry loved to set minnow traps
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Terry was 5-3 and weighed 150 pounds. He and his dad had recently started lifting together and "you could see the chisel and the chest starting to form," Badger said, "just a solid chunk of boy."

That's not what the kids who bullied Terry called him. They called him a "fatass," his parents say.
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Terry loved to hunt deer. He got an 8-point buck with a crossbow this season. He loved to hunt squirrels, mushrooms and wanted to hunt coyotes. He loved to fish. He still holds the family record, a 41-pound catfish.



One fewer inferior bloodline in the world!

What about world class celebrities (Which mostly have oval-shape) who promote capitalistic and exclusivistic living to the masses of audience? They promoting complexity and provoking people of the lower class to feel materially insecure and want to compete into endless capital-seeking "to improve the quality of their material posssession."

Most of celebrities who have ""Aryan" oval face shape" don't care about the fatal flaws of capitalism and westernization, they got benefit from it through ads revenue from big business. I doubt that the people with "Aryan oval face shape" constantly matched with "Aryan character of nobility" which promoted by us. Saddam Hussein, Idi Amin Dada, Sukarno, Julius Malema, Hugo Chavez are not facially and physically "Aryan" but they struggle to create socialism. Contrast to Nicole Kidman, Megan Fox, Chris Hemsworth for example who are  physically "Aryan" but not doing anything to oppose westernization.

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Re: People with "Aryan phenotype"
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2023, 06:34:01 pm »
"Nicole Kidman, Megan Fox, Chris Hemsworth for example who are  physically "Aryan""

WTF?!?!







"I doubt that the people with "Aryan oval face shape" constantly matched with "Aryan character of nobility" which promoted by us."

As Zea_mays already explained perfectly:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg460/#msg460

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When we're judging aesthetics, the main focus is not actually about the individuals in the images. It's about the perceptions of the individuals who are viewing the images! How a viewer reacts to the images and how attractive they consider the images is a test revealing the quality of the viewer's aesthetics.

We must use photos of actual people to discuss about aesthetics, because artistic depictions and computer-generated images are not always available and not always able to evoke the same emotions and reactions as images of real people.

In other words, when we have these sorts of discussions, we are not discussing the ethical quality of someone like Baboumian and whether or not he personally should be allowed to reproduce, but rather people who view photos of him and find his physical type the most attractive.

If instead of using photos of Baboumian, we used some random person from the street, there would be no way to determine the ethical quality of that individual solely from looking at them. The only thing we could determine is the aesthetic quality of whoever looks at the photos! And, indeed, that is what we are testing.

We judge highly masculine and highly feminine body types to be aesthetically inferior because these body types are correlated with ignoble character traits (i.e. see all the scientific studies that have been posted here. Factors such as high testosterone/estrogen are often what are influencing both the body types and behaviors). Therefore, we hypothesize an individual who prefers highly-sexually-dimorphic body types will have a higher tendency towards those ignoble character traits as well.

Additionally, over time, selection for highly-dimorphic body types will also decrease the average ethical quality of the population (again, because selecting for these body types will increase average testosterone/estrogen levels in the population). This is why racial idealism matters in the long run.

It is not because these body/face types themselves inherently cause ignoble behavior. As you point out, Baboumian is vegan, and therefore ethically superior to an androgynous-looking person who has always preferred a meat-heavy diet. But, we aren't judging him as an individual, but instead the people who find his body type the most attractive.

Which brings us to how Fox views herself:



What does Fox's choice of cosmetic surgery direction tell us about what is inside her?
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