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Turan and Gentile
« on: January 24, 2023, 02:51:53 pm »
I'm not able to properly differentiate a turanian from a gentile, what's the difference between the two?

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 08:56:03 pm »
Turanian-blood-dominant people like to herd people to wrong direction for their benefit to increase their survival and material gain

Gentile-blood-dominant people like to oppress anything which not benefitting them materially to increase their survival

Aryan-blood-dominant people see the world as "evil" and therefore they "don't like this world" and more choose to against the world's current condition to change it into ideal world which less or even no evilness on it. And if that struggle required die, they keep doing it even though it threaten their survival
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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2024, 09:23:32 pm »
Whom do you generally consider superior: the lactose intolerant meat eater, or the lacto vegetarian?
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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2024, 12:54:30 am »
If the former is freegan while the latter is not, the former would be superior. If both are freegan, the former would be superior assuming the latter is lactose-tolerant (which is what I am guessing you have presumed). Otherwise the latter would be superior.

However this is a messy comparison in the first place, as the lacto-vegetarian could also be lactose-intolerant, while the lactose-intolerant meat-eater could also consume as much (or more!) dairy than the lacto-vegetarian. Lactose intolerance =/= dairy allergy. Plenty of dietarily colonized/Turanized people regularly consume dairy unaware they are lactose-intolerant:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dietary-decolonization/msg5576/#msg5576

Please feel free to tidy up your parameters and re-ask your question.
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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2024, 12:03:43 pm »
"Plenty of dietarily colonized/Turanized people regularly consume dairy unaware they are lactose-intolerant:"
This is a good point. I read somewhere that the colonialist beverage known as "Filter coffee" is even used as a laxative in Indian households! This was certainly the case for me, but I ignored it because I had grown used to the taste of it. This suggests that even gustatory preference for dairy is something that is acquired, rather than inherited in some people. Same with chocolate milk.

My brother also had this problem in his constitution when he was younger (when he used to drink milk every day), probably due to milk. But the idiot Western doctors recommended he drink chocolate milk as treatment!

In any case, the habit of drinking milk/filter coffee every day did not exist prior to Westernization in India (filter coffee wasn't even a thing. It was originally (rightly) rejected as Western degeneration by Orthodox Hindus). Dairy was mainly consumed in its broken down forms (ghee, curd, etc.), so it should be investigated how lactose tolerant Indians really are.

To get back to the original point, how would you rank the following in order of superiority (none of them are freegan):
Lactose tolerant lacto vegetarian
Lactose intolerant meat eater (but consumes dairy)
Lactose intolerant meat eater (doesn't consume dairy)
Lactose intolerant lacto vegetarian

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2024, 07:50:47 pm »
"how would you rank the following in order of superiority (none of them are freegan):
Lactose tolerant lacto vegetarian
Lactose intolerant meat eater (but consumes dairy)
Lactose intolerant meat eater (doesn't consume dairy)
Lactose intolerant lacto vegetarian"

1&4, 2&3 as individuals.
4, 3, 1, 2 for breeding purposes (specifically I would try to breed 4 with 3 as the best attempt to produce a lactose-intolerant vegan).

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2024, 11:06:40 pm »
"1&4, 2&3 as individuals."
1&4 > 2&3 then? So you consider meat eating worse than dairy consumption? Would like to hear your reasoning.


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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2024, 01:05:47 am »
A significant fraction of lacto-vegetarians upgrade to veganism over time, whereas the fraction of meat-eaters who switch directly to veganism is smaller. So the former are nearer than the latter to where we want everyone to be. Also, lacto-vegetarians are often active in ethical anti-meat proselytization, whereas non-dairy-consuming meat-eaters are less likely to be active in ethical* anti-dairy proselytization, and meat/dairy-eaters are least likely to be contributing to any ethical proselytization with regard to diet.

(* Paleo diet advocates' anti-dairy proselytization is not done using ethical arguments.)

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2024, 01:04:08 pm »
"the fraction of meat-eaters who switch directly to veganism is smaller."
I would also add that the percent of meat eaters who switch to veganism for ethical reasons is even smaller (many do so due to health reasons, mainly "non Whites" (and mostly women) from tropical climates with Aryan metabolism (ectomorphy) but non Aryan faces (which correlates with non Aryan personalities).

"(* Paleo diet advocates' anti-dairy proselytization is not done using ethical arguments.)"
I theorize that ectomorphs are more lactose intolerant than non ectomorphs. However, ectomorphy does not necessarily correlate with Aryan personality, as it could merely be a tropical climate adaptation. This is why we see many ectomorphs with non Aryan faces in South India, who are mostly non vegetarians, but who are also likely lactose intolerant. However, I will note that those non vegetarians with more Aryan blood do limit their meat consumption for religious (ethical) reasons, while those with mostly non Aryan blood try to increase their meat consumption as much as they can. So I would agree that limiting or eschewing meat consumption altogether is a better indicator of Aryan personality than limiting dairy consumption, although there are exceptions (i.e. those with Paleo gatherer blood).
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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2024, 11:53:26 pm »
I have noticed that it is mostly herder castes (Gurjars, Yadavs, etc.) that consume milk (in its unprocessed form) in large quantities, among the lacto vegetarians. These castes are also involved in the milk business, which, despite being cruel by itself, is indirectly response for the beef industry as male calves/old cows are sold off to slaughterhouses as they are not profitable.

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2024, 11:47:56 pm »
"(* Paleo diet advocates' anti-dairy proselytization is not done using ethical arguments.)"
In South India, "curd rice" is used as a slur against lacto vegetarians, as it is seen as food that makes one "weak" and "beta" (this is due to the fermented nature of curd, which is more soothing to the stomach than other foods). However, as we can see it is clearly rooted in Paleo blood memory against fermented foods and vegetarians in general. Our opposition to yoghurt is not its "weak" or "beta" nature, but rather that it is an unethical Turanian food which could instead be replaced with Aryan alternatives.

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2024, 12:26:50 am »
"could instead be replaced with Aryan alternatives"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TN8zYE5gG8

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Re: Turan and Gentile
« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2024, 12:43:56 am »
Tofu and soy beans should be more popular in India. Instead, it is incorrectly seen as "Western" (similar to how the counterculture is incorrectly called "Western")