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« Reply #75 on: August 20, 2026, 12:15:16 pm »
""In principle, yes and yes. Right now, however, they are Great Replacement units, so it would be strategically stupid.""
Which brings me to a bigger point, would you defend them from initiated violence against "Whites"? And should we feel sympathy for them? If so, how do you balance feeling sympathy for these type of people with viewing them as evil?

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« Reply #76 on: August 20, 2026, 05:53:49 pm »
"feelings about my phenotype, coupled with their own ongoing pubertal adulteration, causes me to view them with sort of prejudice, which causes some barriers."

What about their phenotype preferences compared to yours? Do they also prefer gracility, or do they prefer robustness? And so on.

"He did condemn hunting as a vice in another post."
"recall how we mentioned a subgroup of Turanians in the Levant (Israelites) did not practice hunting recreationally as they viewed it as unrefined. Similarly, we could analogize this to some Turanian subgroups in India. However, they would have no qualms about doing it in the context of religious animal sacrifice."

Animal sacrifice symbolizes oppressing those weaker then oneself in order to appease those stronger than oneself. Recreational hunting symbolizes oppressing those weaker than oneself in order to please oneself. Hierarchical society is more stable with only the former, as the latter can be expected to be the source of (Satanic) rebellion. Recreational hunting being labelled as vice/unrefined but animal sacrifice being laudable is what ignoble rulers for their own security want their subjects to believe.

"would you defend them from initiated violence against "Whites"?"

Do you mean defend them against "whites" who initiate violence targeting them? Or do you mean defend them against "whites" whom they target?

In a society with law and order still functional, the best scenario is if "whites" initiate violence targeting them, they kill the "whites" in legally justified self-defence, thereby surviving and remaining free to repeat the scenario with more "whites". If I could help achieve this, I would.

In a society where law and order has already broken down (ie. current US under ICE terrorism), the above is unlikely to apply. Therefore either they aim to quietly get through this period merely staying undeported until law and order returns, or they proactively target ICE agents. In the latter case I would definitely defend them. In the former case I would still advise them to have firearms ready so that if ICE tries to deport them they can resist. The worst response is for them to comply with ICE.

"And should we feel sympathy for them?"

Not as such, but we can agree if they feel unfairly treated being targeted by ICE while similarly evil "whites" are not.

"If so, how do you balance feeling sympathy for these type of people with viewing them as evil?"

Similarly, I have stated that the Venezuelan fishing boats actually deserve to be bombed (although of course Trump is doing it for the wrong reason), but at the same time agree it is unfair that fishing boats with "white" crews are not also being bombed.
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« Reply #77 on: August 20, 2026, 06:27:31 pm »
You are spot on with his your analysis vis a vis animal sacrifice vs recreational hunting.
The lactose tolerant lactose vegetarian pictured, he was frequently a victim of his adult relatives bullying him/ridiculing him. So he attempts to mimic their behavior by showing he is more "adult like" to those younger than him, to gain favor among those older than him. This is a toxic thing in some Indian households, where older relatives constantly criticize younger relatives.

On the other hand, the hunter cousin lost his father, so he is not compelled to subscribe to societal norms. He views his hunting and beef eating as "rebelling" against his mother/sisters/traditional Indian society.

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« Reply #78 on: August 20, 2026, 09:07:21 pm »
"Do you mean defend them against "whites" who initiate violence targeting them?"
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« Reply #79 on: August 21, 2026, 10:10:10 pm »
Also, the guy in the video might not be an identitarian, but he is definitely not a folkist (which relates to a broader point about how masculinity makes folkism harder, it even views insufficiently masculine men as potential sexual competitors).

Anyway, this relates to a broader point about how I mentioned earlier how I don't even trust myself, since I sometimes view people of the same age group in a prejudiced way. Which has led me to view my religion/religiosity itself as corrupt (further made worse by the existence of individuals like him). If I try to criticize him for being insufficiently religious, for example, it will not work, and he will win the argument. So I have to come to terms with the fact that my religion isn't perfect. But how to do this, my whole life I was super religious, to me it represented ideals opposite to what this guy is, I don't think I can throw the baby out with bath water.

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« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2026, 12:00:08 am »
"he is definitely not a folkist"

Can you elaborate? Do you mean that he would potentially side with "whites" against some "non-white" group? If so, which one and why?

"masculinity makes folkism harder, it even views insufficiently masculine men as potential sexual competitors)."

But if someone is confident in their competitiveness, would they not calculate that increased competitors but also increased resources is overall a tradeoff to their advantage, since they estimate that they will be able to outcompete most of their competitors anyway?

"I sometimes view people of the same age group in a prejudiced way"

Why only of the same age group? Why are you not prejudiced against older or younger people?

"I have to come to terms with the fact that my religion isn't perfect. But how to do this, my whole life I was super religious"

What would your life hypothetically have been like if you had never been religious? If you compare this hypothetical to your actual life and still prefer your actual life, then despite your religion not being perfect, it at least helped you. On the other hand, if you prefer the hypothetical, then you have no reason to remain attached to your religion.

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« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2026, 02:49:24 pm »
"Why only of the same age group? Why are you not prejudiced against older or younger people?"
I guess you could include younger people. Older people have mostly all reproduced so there's really nothing about them for me to be prejudiced about.

"What would your life hypothetically have been like if you had never been religious?"
Worse. I can't imagine how I would have been able to find Aryanism or survive Western Civilization (e.g. compulsory schooling) without religion.

"Can you elaborate? Do you mean that he would potentially side with "whites" against some "non-white" group? If so, which one and why?"
I'm pretty sure he supported Trump because he was anti woke, but I guess that's because he (correctly) perceives wokeness as being threatening to STEM, and also because he didn't like False Leftists.

Also, regarding defending ignoble people from "Whites" what if they themselves start supporting "Whites" (e.g. ICE supporters).

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« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2026, 04:45:19 pm »
"Older people have mostly all reproduced so there's really nothing about them for me to be prejudiced about."

I am not following. What is the content of your prejudice?

"regarding defending ignoble people from "Whites" what if they themselves start supporting "Whites" (e.g. ICE supporters)."

Then they are making it more dangerous for others whom ICE is also targeting. We should prefer ICE to deport them first rather than any others.

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« Reply #83 on: August 28, 2026, 10:31:42 pm »
Prejudice that people are ignoble based on appearance.
Also, regarding the close quarter nepotism of the FIL, I would say this is a non Aryan trait, no?
Also, if we should not feel sympathy for hunters/fisherman, why should we feel sympathy for meat eaters? I get that they are "less evil", but isn't evil still evil? In that case, even vegetarians/vegans (including ourselves) can be said to be a little evil, since we all have non Aryan blood. Sure, carrying the blood does not necessarily mean that person is evil so long as that person hasn't reproduced, but let's be honest, are we really perfect when it comes to our other actions?

In this case, we don't really feel sympathy for meat eaters/ourselves either, but just view us as pawns in the fight against Western Civilization (in the case of meat eaters) or against reproduction (ourselves/fellow Gnostics). So essentially what we have is a very cold, calculating view of things, which I get but it is also a very emotionless view.
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« Reply #84 on: August 28, 2026, 11:25:59 pm »
"Prejudice that people are ignoble based on appearance."

I guess this all the time in order to train my eye for physiognomy. But I always give them benefit of doubt until their actions reveal their ignobility (thereby confirming my guess, which happens >90% of the time). I will never withdraw benefit of doubt based on appearance alone.

"the close quarter nepotism of the FIL, I would say this is a non Aryan trait, no?"

Yes. It would make no sense to do this on a Neolithic subsistence farm, since if an incompetent blood relative is allowed to make farming decisions over a competent in-law, the productivity of the entire farm is likely to decrease which then reduces everyone's survival chances. In contrast, in a Turanian nomadic setting, if you send your incompetent blood relative to stake out a safe location and send your competent in-law to stake out an unsafe location, this is actually a better survival strategy than the reverse.

"Also, if we should not feel sympathy for hunters/fisherman, why should we feel sympathy for meat eaters?"

We should feel sympathy only for those who are genuinely unaware of how the meat was produced. I have told many times the story of how as a young child I assumed that meat came from animals who had died on their own. I cannot be sure that there are no meat eaters making the same assumption (although realistically I expect them to almost all be children*), whereas I can be sure that a hunter/fisher (regardless of age) is not making this assumption!

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« Reply #85 on: August 29, 2026, 07:00:15 am »
"In contrast, in a Turanian nomadic setting, if you send your incompetent blood relative to stake out a safe location and send your competent in-law to stake out an unsafe location, this is actually a better survival strategy than the reverse."
What about in a paleolithic Gentile setting?

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« Reply #86 on: August 29, 2026, 05:25:23 pm »
"What about in a paleolithic Gentile setting?"

Possible lifestyles and associated selective pressures are too varied.

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« Reply #87 on: August 29, 2026, 10:42:54 pm »
I guess on the point about more vegetarians being women, he would probably dismiss it by saying "women have no ideology" (this is just my guess) since there is a high rate of those same women marrying meat eating men, and he frequently criticizes inter caste marriages.

Here is his twitter, which he now seems to have unlocked:
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But you will have to login to see all his tweets (thanks Elon)
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« Reply #88 on: August 30, 2026, 02:21:11 am »
"he would probably dismiss it by saying "women have no ideology" (this is just my guess) since there is a high rate of those same women marrying meat eating men"

I agree that a vegetarian of any gender who marries a meat-eater is inferior to a vegetarian of any gender who marries another vegetarian, and based on my observations it indeed appears to be the case that vegetarian women marry meat-eating men at a higher percentage than vegetarian men marrying meat-eating women.

However, even if we assume 100% of vegetarian men marry vegetarian women, that would mean that an equal raw number of vegetarian women marry vegetarian men. So within this group of all-vegetarian couples, men and women cancel out and there is hence neither male nor female superiority. But having removed this group from the analysis, of the remaining vegetarians, 100% are women. So these vegetarian women will be compared against outright meat-eating men. The aggregate conclusion is still female superiority.

By the way, this is consistent with women being higher in average neoteny. What is your relative's opinion on neoteny? As a male supremacist, does he consider low neoteny superior? And if so, how does he avoid being a "white" supremacist (given that "white" men are lower in average neoteny than "non-white" men)?