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« on: July 04, 2020, 02:22:03 am »
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Leftists should not bThroughout the history of the United States, from the disarmament of blacks under Jim Crow to California’s 1967 prohibition of open carry after armed Black Panthers began conducting “copwatching” patrols in their neighborhoods, gun control has been used to impose state authority on the same vulnerable communities liberals say they want to protect and empower.

Vice News recently published a “Leftist Argument Against Gun Control,” presenting the case that for “a black leftist male” in a nation “founded on, by, and sustained through genocide, slavery, and theft,” giving the government “a total monopoly on violence” by “surrendering effective means of self-defense” is “suicide.” Or, to put it more simply, if cops are racist thugs who can’t be trusted, why should they be the only ones with guns?
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So, I say to the American left, if Trump announced tomorrow that he planned to outlaw the Democratic Party and arrest its leadership, how would you respond? Do you, like your predecessors around the world, still believe that some causes might be worth taking up arms against a tyrannical government?

You spent the last administration telling the Cliven Bundys of the world to lay down their arms and trust the government. Now that the tables have turned and the enemy of all you hold dear sits in the Oval Office, history suggests you shouldn’t feel so confident taking your own advice.e disagreeing with rightists on the importance of firearm ownership. We should only be disagreeing with them on who deserves to be shot.

It is one thing to theoretically prefer that firearms had never been invented in the first place, but given that they have been invented, it is stupid for leftists to not be at least as well-armed as rightists. The only thing that will stop a rightist with a gun is a leftist with a gun. It is that simple.

www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-left-has-the-stronger-case-for-gun-ownership/

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Throughout the history of the United States, from the disarmament of blacks under Jim Crow to California’s 1967 prohibition of open carry after armed Black Panthers began conducting “copwatching” patrols in their neighborhoods, gun control has been used to impose state authority on the same vulnerable communities liberals say they want to protect and empower.

Vice News recently published a “Leftist Argument Against Gun Control,” presenting the case that for “a black leftist male” in a nation “founded on, by, and sustained through genocide, slavery, and theft,” giving the government “a total monopoly on violence” by “surrendering effective means of self-defense” is “suicide.” Or, to put it more simply, if cops are racist thugs who can’t be trusted, why should they be the only ones with guns?
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So, I say to the American left, if Trump announced tomorrow that he planned to outlaw the Democratic Party and arrest its leadership, how would you respond? Do you, like your predecessors around the world, still believe that some causes might be worth taking up arms against a tyrannical government?

You spent the last administration telling the Cliven Bundys of the world to lay down their arms and trust the government. Now that the tables have turned and the enemy of all you hold dear sits in the Oval Office, history suggests you shouldn’t feel so confident taking your own advice.

If you are not convinced, go on rightist blogs and read their graphically detailed plans for mass-murdering us. Here is just one example:

westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

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there are a far greater number of scoped bolt-action hunting rifles in private hands in the United States. Keep this number in mind: based on deer stamps sold, approximately twenty million Americans [they are referring to rightists here] venture into the woods every fall armed with such rifles, fully intending to shoot and kill a two-hundred-pound mammal. Millions of these scoped bolt-action deer rifles are quite capable of hitting a man-sized target at ranges out to and even beyond a thousand yards, or nearly three-fifths of a mile.
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Among the mobs [they are referring to leftists here, or at least how they stereotype us] are thugs armed with pistols and perhaps even AK-47s equipped with standard iron sights, and except in rare cases, these rifles have never been “zeroed in” on a target range. In other words, past a medium distance of fifty to a hundred yards, these MUY shooters will have little idea where their fired bullets will strike—nor will they care. Typically, most of the rioters armed with a pistol, shotgun or an iron-sighted rifle could not hit a mailbox at a hundred yards unless by luck. Inside that distance, any non-MUY could be at immediate risk of brutal death at the hands of an enraged mob, but beyond that range, the mob will pose much less danger.

Taking this imbalance in effective ranges of the firearms most likely to be available to both sides, certain tactical responses are sure to arise
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SAMPLE SNIPER AMBUSH SCENARIO

When word is received that a flash mob is forming at one of their pre-reconnoitered intersections or highway interchanges, the SAV team will assemble. Sometimes cooperating police will pass tactical intel to their civilian friends on the outside. Some clever individuals will have exploited their technical know-how and military experience to build real-time intel collection tools, such as private UAVs. Police will have access to urban security camera footage showing MUYs moving barricade materials into position—a normal prerequisite to a flash mob riot intended to stop traffic. Tip-offs to the vigilantes will be common, and where the networks are still functioning, citizens may still be able to access some video feeds. Sometimes, police will even join the SAV teams, incognito and off-duty, blurring the teams into so-called “death squads.”

The operation I will describe (and it’s only one of dozens that will be tried) uses two ordinary pickup trucks and eight fighters. Two riflemen are lying prone in the back of each truck, facing rearward, with removable canvas covers concealing their presence. Their semi-automatic, scoped rifles are supported at their front ends on bipods for very accurate shooting. A row of protective sandbags a foot high is between them and the raised tailgate.

In the cab are a driver and a spotter in the passenger seat who also serves as the vehicle’s 360-degree security. The two trucks don’t ever appear on the same stretch of road, but coordinate their movements using one-word brevity codes over small FRS walkie-talkie radios. Each truck has a series of predetermined elevated locations where the intersection in question will lie between 200 and 500 yards away. Each truck is totally nondescript and forgettable, the only detail perhaps being the non-MUY ethnicity of the suburbanite driver and spotter driving relatively near to a riot in progress.

By the time the two SAV pickup trucks arrive at their firing positions on different streets and oriented ninety degrees to one another, the flash mob riot is in full swing. A hundred or more of the rampaging youths are posturing and throwing debris into traffic in order to intimidate some cars into stopping. The riflemen in the backs of the pickups are waiting for this moment and know what to expect, trusting their spotters and drivers to give them a good firing lane. The spotters in each truck issue a code word on their radios when they are in final position. The tailgates are swung down, and the leader among the riflemen initiates the firing. All-around security is provided by the driver and spotter.

Lying prone and using their bipods for support, the shooters have five to ten degrees of pan or traverse across the entire intersection. Individual rioters are clearly visible in the shooters’ magnified optical scopes. Each of the four snipers has a plan to shoot from the outside of the mob toward the middle, driving participants into a panicked mass. The left-side shooters start on the left side and work to the middle, engaging targets with rapid fire, about one aimed shot per two seconds. Since the two trucks are set at ninety degrees to one another, very complete coverage will be obtained, even among and between the stopped vehicles.

The result is a turkey shoot. One magazine of thirty aimed shots per rifle is expended in under a minute, a coded cease-fire is called on the walkie-talkies, and the trucks drive away at the speed limit. The canvas covering the truck beds contains the shooters’ spent brass. If the trucks are attacked from medium or close range, the canvas can be thrown back and the two snipers with their semi-automatic rifles or carbines will add their firepower to that of the driver and spotter.

Back at the intersection, complete panic breaks out among the rioters as a great number of bullets have landed in human flesh. Over a score have been killed outright, and many more scream in pain for medical attention they will not receive in time.

Note that this was a blog post written in 2012. Meanwhile, all the way to 2018 I have yet to see comparable tactical planning on leftist blogs. It should not take me to tell you the likely outcome if this total leftist lack of war-readiness is not decisively remedied before larger-scale conflict breaks out.

And if you are still not convinced, read the Turner Diaries.

Let me spell this out: We are going up against Western civilization, by far the most warlike civilization in world history, a civilization that once colonized most of the planet and which is responsible for inventing almost all modern weaponry and indeed the method of modern warfare as a whole. Do you honestly think we can win without a lot of physical fighting up ahead? Do you honestly think we stand a chance without being at least as well-armed, well-trained and generally prepared for combat as they are?

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www.wired.co.uk/article/3d-printed-guns-blueprints

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A new network of 3D-printed gun advocates is growing in America – and this time things are different. Unlike previous attempts to popularise 3D-printed guns, this operation is entirely decentralised. There’s no headquarters, no trademarks, and no real leader. The people behind it reckon that this means they can’t be stopped by governments.

“If they [the government] were to come after me, they’d first have to find my identity,” says Ivan the Troll, a member of the group. “I’m one of many, many like-minded individuals who’re doing this sort of work.”

Known only by his online moniker, Ivan the Troll is the de facto spokesman of an underground wave of 3D-printing gunsmiths. Ivan says he knows of at least 100 people who are actively developing 3D-printed gun technology, and he claims there are thousands taking part in the network. This loose-knit community spans across the whole world.
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“Even if there was no government telling me I couldn’t do this, I think that I would still do it,” Ivan says. “Some people get a kick out of video games, I like spending hours and hours drawing stuff on CAD.”

Ivan isn’t just “drawing stuff on CAD” though. He’s providing free files to help anyone with a half-decent FDM (Fused Deposition Modeling) 3D printer and some hand tools to make a workable handgun. Once the CAD file is downloaded, it’s opened in a “slicer” program that translates the CAD files into instructions that the 3D printer can understand. Once the 3D-printed gun parts are ready, they can be assembled into a fully workable gun.

The CAD gun designs put out by Deterrence Dispensed are so well-made, according to Ivan, that they’re not just “workable”, but superior. “Our AR15 CAD model is the best in the public domain without a doubt,” says Ivan.
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He then went on to cite the many police shootings of unarmed black men in American, specifically mentioning Stephon Clark. Clark, 22, was shot to death by police in his own back garden while holding nothing but a mobile phone. “I believe it is inherently important that … you should be able to own a gun,” Ivan continued. “You should be able to own the same legal force that the cops are using to control you.”
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Ivan sounds at times more like a radical leftist than the right wing “gun nut” many in America label him as.

Yes, because more and more leftists are understanding that rightists want us dead.

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If this enemy video (MUST WATCH) does not convince you of the importance of leftists owning and being willing to use firearms, nothing will:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJh7Ye1Qvc8

Many of the other supposed disadvantages of the left proposed by the narrator can actually be countered, but only if leftists are armed and paramilitarily organized. The narrator talks as though there are zero leftists in Red states, but in fact there are easily >30% of Blue voters in most Red states, who if adequately armed, trained and motivated could turn the 4G tables against the rightists in short order by the same strategic logic that the narrator himself espouses. Furthermore, the narrator's claim that rightists are totally self-sufficient in resources is untrue (I can elaborate in private if required).

Our enemies are trying to demoralize us with videos like this one. Instead of being demoralized, put more effort into getting every leftist you know to own firearms and lots of ammunition!

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Someday, I'll have money for my own rifle. You think a Jeff Cooper style Scout Rifle will be good to start?

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The main advantage would be their relatively light weight, but at the cost of effective range. You may wish to consider a compromise, for example:

www.steyrscout.org/tactical.htm

But the most important thing is to find a weapon you as an individual feel comfortable using. This is arguably more important than flat specs, since ultimately you will do better with a weapon that suits your own physique and even your own personality (though my impression is that personality tends to be more of a factor with handguns). The best person to judge this is yourself. I suggest trying out a variety of roughly similar weapons in a single practice session, so that you can compare how they feel directly. Don't just shoot with them either; try running with them, climbing, crawling, and so on. Don't forget to test how they feel with whatever other equipment you expect to be carrying at the same time during actual operations.

It is good to see interest in firearms increasing among leftists. We still have a lot of catching up to do:

newrepublic.com/article/154110/antifa-arming-trump-crackdown

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Liberals are notoriously loath to take their own side in a fight. But their reticence may well be changing in an age of vigilante, white nationalist terror—openly condoned and supported by an incumbent president who has suggested that his armed devotees won’t stand for his removal from office. Increasingly, the antifa left is arguing—and training—in response. They are worried not only about an armed reckoning following a contested election, but also about rising violence from the paramilitaries loyal to President Donald Trump.
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As a result, many leftists and even some liberals are beginning to reconsider their feelings about firearms, joining a loose amalgamation of gun groups, from John Brown Gun Clubs (which take their name from the abolitionist) to the Pink Pistols (an LGBTQ group), Liberal Gun Club, and Socialist Rifle Association. Some of these organizations are moderate and traditionalist, others radical and revolutionary. But all share one implicit goal: to normalize firearms ownership and training among liberals. Some of their members hope such efforts will at least make Republicans think twice before attempting a massacre.
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Trump deserves most of the blame for this particular uptick in gun sales. In March, he told Breitbart, “I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump—I have the tough people … it would be very bad, very bad,” if his followers decided to “play it tough.” In those remarks, some saw not Trumpian “swagger or machismo,” Adrian Bonenberger, an Afghanistan combat veteran, writer, and member of the Socialist Rifle Association told me, but “an incredibly thinly veiled threat.”


Not all threats these days come veiled. Former Trump adviser Roger Stone has used the Proud Boys—a group of neofascist men who describe themselves as “Western chauvinists”—as his own private security force. Border militias have been conducting vigilante operations against suspected undocumented immigrants. (One vigilante told BuzzFeed in April that his group was coordinating with border protection officials on an hourly basis.) And former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon, who compared American politics in 2019 to the vitriolic climate just before the Civil War, lent his name to an Italian “gladiator school” for training “culture warriors” to defend Christianity in the West. 

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Bonenberger believes it would take at least 20 years to create a force to rival the conservative militias that boast tens of thousands of members. By comparison, antifa has a combined membership in the low thousands, and even fewer people belong to armed leftist groups.

20 years is too long.

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More people getting it:

news.yahoo.com/rapper-killer-mike-i-dont-trust-black-leadership-on-gun-control-170029724.html

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“I don’t trust black leadership that wants to de-arm black people,” Killer Mike, whose real name is Michael Render, told Yahoo News at his Atlanta barbershop, the Swag Shop.
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Render, a member of the National African American Gun Association and staunch Second Amendment supporter, has advocated for black gun ownership as a civil rights issue. He argued that many of the nation’s problems could have been avoided if guns had been evenly distributed throughout the country at the time of its founding and throughout its history.

“If everyone owned guns from day one, it would have been a lot harder to commit acts like slavery and genocide on Native Americans,” Render said. “If you read the book ‘Guns, Germs and Steel,’ it kind of explains to you, you know, why a lot of the wars indigenous people lost was because people came with superior technology and guns.”

Render’s views on guns are not new.

“Gun laws affect black people first and worst,” Render said while quoting African-American investigative journalist and civil rights leader Ida B. Wells, who documented lynchings of blacks in the late 1890s, and declared “a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home, and it should be used for that protection which the law refuses to give.”

“They don’t want you to have guns in cities for fear of crime and violence, yet the crime and violence [are] there and the police treat you as though you’re criminally violent,” Render said. “So at what point do you become responsible for one’s one life? At what point are you going to buy a gun, are you going to train, are you going to commit yourself?”
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“In my household, there are always going to be 10 or more weapons,” Render said. “We’re always going to be trained and proficient with them. And if anyone ever comes down my driveway and decides to exercise what perceived power they have, they will surely go out in the back of an ambulance dead.”

Follow this guy's example.
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« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2020, 02:39:17 am »
OLD CONTENT contd.

A study (read quoted passage from bottom to top):

news.yahoo.com/latest-police-5-police-officers-220839296.html

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) — The Latest on several police officers shot in Philadelphia (all times local):

10:45 p.m.

Police say all six officers wounded by gunfire from a man who has barricaded himself inside a north Philadelphia building have been released from the hospital.

Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross says "it's nothing short of a miracle that we don't have multiple officers killed today."

Ross says the situation that began about 4:30 p.m. Wednesday has "gone from a hostage situation to a barricade."

Sgt. Eric Gripp said the suspect was "still armed and inside" the house. But Ross said police had been able to speak to him and were still trying to get him to surrender. He said the man's attorney was apparently on the line as well.

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9:45 p.m.

Police say two officers who were in a building with a gunman barricaded inside a northern Philadelphia home have been "safely evacuated" by a police SWAT team.

Sgt. Eric Gripp said shortly after 9:30 p.m. that the suspect was "still armed and inside" the house. There was no immediate word on how the officers were freed. Earlier, six officers were struck by gunfire but were in stable condition and others were injured responding to the scene.

Commissioner Richard Ross said officers were serving a narcotics warrant at the home and had already entered when gunfire erupted. Ross said the gunman fired multiple rounds and officers returned fire. He said many "had to escape through windows and doors to get (away) from a barrage of bullets."

Ross said officers had been calling the gunman and trying to communicate with him with a bullhorn, but he had not responded.

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8:30 p.m.

Police say an hourslong standoff with a gunman barricaded inside a northern Philadelphia home is continuing into the night as the shooter ignores officers.

Commissioner Richard Ross said during a Wednesday night news conference the "very volatile" situation is still unfolding.

Six officers were struck. All are in stable condition. Ross said other officers were injured responding to the scene.

Ross said officers were serving a narcotics warrant at the home and had already entered when gunfire erupted. Ross said the gunman fired multiple rounds and officers returned fire. He said many "had to escape through windows and doors to get (away) from a barrage of bullets."

Two officers remained inside the home, but Ross says he believes they are OK.

Ross said officers have been calling the gunman and he has picked up but did not speak to them.

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7:25 p.m.

A Philadelphia Police sergeant said officers are attempting to communicate with a shooter that has fired at police, wounding at least six officers.

Sgt. Eric Gripp tweeted Wednesday evening that police are "imploring him to surrender and avoid further injuries."

The shooting situation remained active at 7 p.m. Wednesday.

Authorities say police were serving a warrant in the Nicetown-Tioga neighborhood before gunfire started around 4:30 p.m. At least six officers have been shot and none of their injuries are considered life-threatening. The officers were taken to hospitals.

A heavy police presence remains in the neighborhood.

Officials said President Donald Trump and Attorney General William Barr have been briefed on the shooting and are monitoring the situation.

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6:40 p.m.

A Philadelphia Police sergeant says six police officers have been shot and the suspect is still firing at police.

Sgt. Eric Gripp also tweeted Wednesday that additional officers are receiving treatment for injuries that aren't from gunshots.

Gripp is asking that people continue to stay out of the city's Nicetown neighborhood.

He also said officers were serving a warrant to a home in the northern Philadelphia neighborhood before shots were fired.

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports two officers were trapped inside the house when the shooting first started.

Dozens of police officers on foot are lining streets blocks away, some in cars and some on horses.

President Donald Trump has been briefed on the shooting in Philadelphia and continues to monitor the situation.

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6:10 p.m.

A Philadelphia Police sergeant says five police officers have been shot in what's still an active shooting situation in the city.

Sgt. Eric Gripp tweeted Wednesday shortly before 6 p.m. that all of the injuries are considered non-life threatening.

He also said that the suspect is still firing and warned people to stay out of the Nicetown neighborhood.

The officers have been taken to area hospitals. Temple University Hospital referred questions on the conditions of police officers to police.

A massive police presence remains with dozens of police cars and officers, many of them with their guns drawn.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says numerous agents are responding to the scene to assist Philadelphia police.

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5:45 p.m.

Authorities say several Philadelphia police officers have been shot in an "active and ongoing" shooting situation in the city.

Sgt. Eric Gripp tweeted there was at least one suspect firing at police officers Wednesday afternoon.

A police spokesman confirmed the shooting in the Nicetown section of the city.

Temple University tweeted that it has locked down its Health Sciences Center Campus.

Video shows a massive police presence with dozens of police cars and officers, many of them with guns drawn.

One officer appeared injured and was taken away in a police car. Video also showed two other officers carrying a man and putting them in the back of a car.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives says numerous agents are responding to the scene to assist Philadelphia police.

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5:30 p.m.

Authorities say several Philadelphia police officers have been injured in an "active and ongoing" shooting situation in the city.

Sgt. Eric Gripp tweeted there was at least one suspect firing at police officers Wednesday afternoon.

A police spokesman confirmed the shooting in the Nicetown section of the city but offered no other information.

Video shows a massive police presence in a neighborhood with dozens of police cars and officers, many of them with their guns drawn.

One officer appeared injured and was taken away in a police car. Video also showed two other officers carrying a man and putting them in the back of a police car.

It's unknown if any police officers have been shot.

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5:15 p.m.

Officials say at least one gunman is shooting at police officers in Philadelphia.

A police spokesman confirmed Wednesday afternoon that a gunman was actively shooting at officers in the Nicetown section of the city. The spokesman who was reached on the public affairs phone number offered no other information.

Sgt. Eric Gripp tweeted said there was at least one suspect firing at police officers.

Video shows a massive police presence in a neighborhood with dozens of police cars and officers, many of them with their guns drawn.

One officer appeared injured and was taken away in a police car. Video also showed two other officers carrying a man and putting them in the back of a police car.

It's unknown if any police officers have been shot.

I'm unconcerned with this incident in itself (which was apparently about drugs), but it is a good example of how difficult it is to handle even a single civilian willing to shoot and adequately equipped to do so.

Now imagine if every person whom ICE wants to deport were willing to put up as much resistance as the gunman in the story above. Would ICE really be willing to go through all the above each time it wants to deport just one person?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAqLKlxY3Eo

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False Leftists want to ban firearms out of their selfish concern for their children's supposed safety, which will ultimately affect "non whites", but of course they do not care.

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They overestimate the practicality of a firearm ban, for one thing. Almost no rightist firearm owners will turn in their firearms voluntarily. And even if government officials go door to door searching for firearms, rightist firearm owners could just hide their firearms elsewhere. Worst of all, a firearm ban would create a false sense of security among leftists, and therefore reduces their incentive to train (while rightists will without doubt continue training, in secret if necessary).

We should indeed be thinking about what can be done to minimize rightist firepower, but a firearm ban is by far the worst suggestion. The best approach is simply to minimize the number of rightists. This could trivially be done via state control over reproduction. Something as obvious (and easily environmentally justified) as a flat one-child policy would halve the number (and hence firepower) of rightists within a generation. State control over reproduction - not banning firearms - should be the focus of leftist policy advocacy.

Other than the above, it will come down to straightforward reduction by attrition, which of course requires leftist firepower.

Our message is spreading, though:

gunsandamerica.org/story/19/02/08/leftists-bear-arms-in-self-defense/

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“I refuse to wait for a police officer to get to make the decision of how dangerous my white assailant is,” she said, referring to a past domestic violence incident when she said the police took the word of her white abuser over her own.
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There’s an old trope in gun control circles: if you’re being robbed, instead of playing the hero with a gun it’s much safer to simply cooperate. Give them what they want.

“Well what if they want you dead?” asked Fordham University School of Law professor Nicholas Johnson.

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news.yahoo.com/tomi-lahren-apologizes-democrat-juli-213628384.html

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"Disgusting, anti-immigrant rhetoric from @tomilahren in the wake of El Paso," tweeted Julián Castro, who is a former Obama cabinet official.

Castro, a Texas native, was referring to comments Lahren made on the topic of gun control on Fox Business Network, implying that armed Americans would have to shoot people coming across the border.

"And all the things the Democrats want to put in place, my goodness, if they want to open our borders, you better be sure that the people in Texas, the people in South Dakota, the people in the middle of this country, we're going to be armed and ready," Lahren said to Fox's Stuart Varney on Friday.

And so should our side be also!



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqoEs4cG6Uw

If Tubman had used a protest sign, would she have succeeded?

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You have been warned:

news.yahoo.com/wing-pastor-says-trump-supporters-165700816.html

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President Donald Trump's supporters will "hunt down" Democrats and bring "violence to America" once the president leaves office, according to right-wing Christian pastor and conspiracy theorist Rick Wiles.

On his apocalyptic TruNews programme, captured by Right Wing Watch, Mr Wiles said the president's impeachment or "however he leaves" office will inspire "veterans, cowboys, mountain men" and "guys that know how to fight" to bring "violence to America" by hunting down Mr Trump's political enemies.

Co-host Edward Szall said "once the blood starts flowing, it's near impossible to stop".
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Rob Drake wrote his threat on Twitter, then deleted it.

"I will be buying an AR-15 tomorrow, because if you impeach MY PRESIDENT this way, YOU WILL HAVE ANOTHER CIVAL (sic) WAR!!! #MAGA2020," he wrote. "You can't do an impeachment inquiry from the basement of Capital(sic) Hill without even a vote! What is going on in this country?"

Our enemies will use their firearms against us. Will we use ours against them?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpoJUvGGpdg

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MUST WATCH:

gatesofvienna.net/2019/11/operation-roncesvalles/

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the Joint Chiefs of Staff know that the day will come when they will have to re-conquer those territories that have become foreign on our own soil. The plan is already in place. It’s called Operation Ronces [Roncesvalles, where Charlemagne fought the Moors].It has been developed with help of the specialists from the Israeli Army.”

What are your sources?

—Someone very close to the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

You are claiming that the French Army is ready to do…

—Yes.

—What? The, the…?

—Cleansing.

—To do the cleaning?

—Yes. It will be the Algeria Battle all over again!

No-go zones had better have MANPADS:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man-portable_air-defense_system

in addition to military grade firearms, body armour and other equipment. They also need to be able to retreat underground. Even then they will be fighting at a horrific disadvantage (comparable to Palestinians vs IDF). What should really be happening is that if the French military makes a move, the US military retaliates (as it did during Operation Deliberate Force). But to have any chance of that we need Trump out first.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9-FZPAYIjo

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This can be used against our enemies...

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If others have rifles, we'll have rifles; why leftists groups are taking up arms:
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/22/if-others-have-rifles-well-have-rifles-why-leftist-groups-are-taking-up-arms

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Speaking of rifles, during my time in the military I have also heard plenty of stories about the NATO 5.56mm high-velocity round. The bullet is so small, .22 caliber, and moving so fast, that more often than not it passes right through the target without the target even realizing they have been hit. I've heard stories too of people being shot by the 5.56mm 5 to 10 times and still being able to run away afterwards, or continue fighting. Not so with the 7.62 rifle round, which has much more stopping power.
AR15 vs AK47, Which is Better??? (AR15 is 5.56 standard, AK47 is 7.62mm)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyEZntmqZws

Trivia:
The German MG-42 uses the 7.92mm, and I got to fire it when I was stationed in Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhOrY88MGbM

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Now they know:

www.yahoo.com/news/spit-yelled-attacked-chinese-americans-185127180.html
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Gun shop owners in the Washington, D.C., area said they were seeing a surge of first-time Chinese American buyers.

At Engage Armament in Rockville, Maryland, most gun buyers in the first two weeks of March have been Chinese American or Chinese, according to the owner, Andy Raymond.

More than a fifth of Rockville’s residents are of Asian ethnicity, and Raymond said buyers from Korean and Vietnamese backgrounds were not unusual. But Raymond said he was stunned by the flow of Chinese customers — in particular green-card holders from mainland China — that began earlier this month, a group that rarely patronized his shop before.

“It was just nonstop, something I’ve never seen,” he said.
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Already a gun owner, Du, 48, said he was in the process of buying an AR-15 style rifle.

“Katrina is not far away,” he said, alluding to the unrest in New Orleans following Hurricane Katrina in 2005. “And when all these bad things come, I am a minority. People can see my face is Chinese clearly. My son, when he goes out, they will know his parents are Chinese.”

For American-born Asians, there is a sudden sense of being watched that is as unsettling as it is unfamiliar.

“It’s a look of disdain,” said Chil Kong, a Korean American theater director in Maryland. “It’s just: ‘How dare you exist in my world? You are a reminder of this disease, and you don’t belong in my world.’ ”

He added: “It’s especially hard when you grow up here and expect this world to be yours equally. But we do not live in that world anymore. That world does not exist.”

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If only we had access to military grade weaponry...

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Until our side is already using civilian-grade weaponry to their maximum capacity against our enemies and it is still proving insufficient, I don't really think we are qualified to demand military-grade weaponry.
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« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2020, 02:49:17 am »
OLD CONTENT contd.

Behold the extent of improvement we have brought in how leftists think about firearms these days (ignore Pakman):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO2zQUIXdhI

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https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-day-the-native-americans-drove-the-kkk-out-of-town

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The county had been split in three since the 1880s, after the Lumbees resisted North Carolina’s post–Civil War efforts to segregate its citizens into two racial categories. The county had three sets of buses, three separate water fountains and three school systems.

But in the 1950s, things were starting to change in Robeson County, and the Klan wasn’t happy about it. Brown v. Board of Education had recently outlawed school segregation throughout the United States. More locally, the Lumbee Tribe had been formally recognized by the state of North Carolina, and Solicitor Malcolm B. Seawell, a local law officer who would later become North Carolina’s attorney general, had given a speech addressing 15 arrested Klansmen, warning them that Robeson County “would not tolerate” the Klan.

“Your society is neither invisible nor invincible,” Seawell said in his speech to the Klansmen. “You may discover that the easy way or the hard way. Take your choice.”

The KKK chose the hard way.

The Lumbees stood off to the side, many of them armed. Some began moving closer to the Klan’s makeshift stage.

Lumbee member Neill Lowery shattered the light bulb with a gunshot, extinguishing the field’s only light source. As the field plunged into darkness, the scene turned to chaos. An Associated Press photographer who was on the scene later told the Rocky Mount Telegram that “several thousand rounds” of ammunition were fired.

Catfish Cole ran into the nearby swamps, followed by other Klansmen who hurriedly drove or ran away from the field.

“They was scared, and they were surrounded,” Locklear said. “They just, you know, they just gave up.”

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History lesson:

www.snopes.com/fact-check/nra-california-open-carry-ban/

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Over the past 50 years, the National Rifle Association (NRA) has opposed most legislative efforts to restrict citizens’ right to bear arms, regardless of the justification. But, as gun control advocates were quick to point out in the wake of the Florida shooting, a notable exception occurred in 1967:

Social media postings noted that in contrast to their current policy of backing laws that allow citizens to openly carry loaded firearms in public, in 1967 the NRA supported a statewide ban on open carry in California after armed members of the Black Panther Party started patrolling city streets to counter police brutality. A Facebook meme hammered the point home with an image of Black Panthers brandishing weapons in the California state capitol:

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“Local cops were dumbfounded to discover that there was no law which prohibited the Panthers from carrying loaded weapons so long as they were unconcealed, a legal fact which the Panthers had carefully researched.”

In a statement quoted by Associated Press, a Panther spokesman said, “The cops asked us what we were doing and we told them. ‘We’re exercising our constitutional rights and we’re not going to take any bull.'”

The Mulford Act was designed to impose a limits on those very constitutional rights in the state of California, establishing that “every person who carries a loaded firearm on his person while on a public street, or in a public place within any city or in a vehicle while in any public place or on any public street in an incorporated city or in an inhabited area of unincorporated territory is guilty of a misdemeanor.”



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My favourite story today:

www.yahoo.com/news/armed-activists-escort-black-lawmaker-to-michigans-capitol-after-coronavirus-protest-attended-by-white-supremacists-184000180.html

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A Michigan lawmaker returned to the state Capitol on Wednesday with an armed security detail following a coronavirus lockdown protest at the building last week attended by white supremacists and militia groups.

Rep. Sarah Anthony, a Democrat whose district is in the capital city, Lansing, told Yahoo News in an interview that her security detail, made up of local black and Latino activists, came together because the armed protesters bearing white supremacist symbols represented a “different level of terror.”
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Anthony posted a video to Facebook, which she filmed as the protests raged outside. Members of her community responded and, when Anthony returned to the Capitol on Wednesday for the first time since the demonstration, she was escorted by a group of six black and Latino activists who carried their own guns.
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The activists who accompanied Anthony on Wednesday included local Lansing firefighter and activist Michael Lynn Jr. along with multiple members of his family. Lynn told Yahoo News that Anthony’s video of the protests inspired him to offer her protection.

“My thing is, you know, we elected her and we elevated her to that level to represent us in that Capitol. I don’t want her going in there with a fear or worry about doing anything. … I don’t think that’s right, that they would try to intimidate her that way,” Lynn said.

He said seeing the armed protesters challenging Anthony “enraged” him and reminded him of the darker days of white supremacist opposition to the civil rights movement.

“It takes a lot to get a black woman elected into the House of Representatives,” Lynn said. “There’s not that many of them, and we did that. We got her elected in there, and we’re going to make sure she’s protected to go do her job.”
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Challenging the perceptions of people of color and guns was one of Lynn’s goals in providing security for Anthony.

“Anytime somebody sees a minority with a gun, it’s got a negative connotation to it, and I don’t like that,” said Lynn. “We were able today to provide some sort of protection but also just the feeling of being protected. I think that was great.”

We need more people like these:



to shoot these:



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up9eg7_8_SY

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But I hope this doesn't lead leftists to assume that parading with firearms is enough. In fact, parading will eventually just make you easy targets for rightists with firearms, who will not be parading but will be concealed. Read the enemy article excerpt from the first post of this thread.

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What I have been saying all along:

www.yahoo.com/entertainment/killer-mike-urges-black-people-232210081.html

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Killer Mike has long been a proponent of the second amendment, especially with regard to minority gun ownership. He took things a step further in an op-ed he wrote for Colorlines.

The Run the Jewels rapper encouraged African-Americans and people of color to “to take seriously their Second Amendment rights” after the murder of Georgia jogger Ahmaud Arbery.

“I put this statement out because the police cannot always get to you on time, and the world is not a just place. I also released these remarks because we cannot assume that everyone who wears a police uniform is just and fair,” he wrote.

He continued by saying that minorities could only rely on themselves for protection and not law enforcement.

“My message to Black people across the country is the same today as it was a year ago: the only person you can count on to protect yourself and your family is you,” he said. “God gave you the right to use whatever tools are available to defend your rights. Nothing—including gun ownership—should be discarded. I encourage gun ownership to my wife, my son and daughters, your sons and daughters and all Black people.”

Killer Mike stated that the biggest challenge that they face is to “normalize” gun ownership for them.

“We should be highlighting and showcasing responsible gun owners. We should be looking to Black organizations such as the National African American Gun Association, which offers firearms training, self-defense training and other services. They understand the cultural nuances of gun ownership and speak directly to our needs,” he said.

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2020, 11:38:06 pm »
More Black Guns Matter:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/group-called-black-guns-matter-180300856.html

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Maj Toure, the founder of Black Guns Matter, has taken another tack: Advocating for Black Americans to take up arms for self-defense.

While many argue that the way to prevent violence is to have fewer guns, he says the opposite.

"I believe that more Black people would be alive if they were armed," Toure told Business Insider Weekly.

"So when I hear 'unarmed Black man,' I'm sad," he added, "because there should be no such thing."

I agree. And the same applies to all "non-whites" (which does not include Jews).

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At his class, he demonstrated for crowds proper firearm technique, ran through attacker scenarios, and occasionally challenged the views of spectators who disagreed with his approach.

One common criticism is that gun ownership alone is not enough to protect Black Americans from a criminal justice system perceived as systemically racist.

"What we do know is that when Black people do have guns, they are still shot and killed by police or by other bystanders," said Amber Goodwin, founder and executive director of the Community Justice Action Fund.

"Breonna Taylor — her boyfriend Pat was lawfully owning a gun, and she was still shot and killed. And so I think the issue was larger than just give people Black people guns."

This is true. Which is why I keep saying that the correct strategic way to use firearms is not as a defensive weapon but as a counteroffensive weapon. The correct reaction to police brutality is a sniper operation targeting the perpetrators and their corrupt superiors who do not punish them. That is what the Second Amendment is really for. To assume that firearm ownership is about on-the-spot reaction to being shot at misses the point.

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One thing he repeats: Systemic racism has stacked the rules around gun control against Black people.

"I pick my words very carefully: All gun control is racist," Toure said. "Whether they change it to make it look like, you know, you got to pay a fee, you got to do this, you do that."

Historians say the links between gun control and racial discrimination go back to slavery and, later, Black Code laws that forbade African Americans from owning guns.

"Gun control in America was initially created to stop melanated beings from having arms," Toure said.

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« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2020, 05:09:09 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rudb7Buhw8

How does this not evoke a Second Amendment response?

Or, more to the point, if even the above does not evoke a Second Amendment response, then what will?

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False Leftist naivety/stupidity on full display:
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It doesn’t matter what kind of decked-out assault rifles these goons bring to our cities; if we hone and sharpen our weapons of mass action, anti-racist solidarity & class unity, they’ll be running scared like they were a month ago.

“Weapons of mass action”
Read that one more time. Yes, this is actually a real statement from a self-proclaimed “leftist”. This idiot wants us to believe that militarized police forces can be fought with “weapons of mass solidarity”. These False Leftists are going to get “non-whites” killed, but then again maybe they don’t care since they are “white” themselves and have reproduced.

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2020, 01:35:21 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/constitutional-freaking-black-americans-arm-110023058.html

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When coronavirus lockdowns spread nationwide in March, millions of Americans flocked to their local grocery stores and wholesale markets to stock up for what would become months stuck at home. Black Americans did the same, but some had one addendum to their shopping list: a firearm.
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“The days are over of African Americans sitting around singing Kumbaya and hoping and praying that somebody will come and save them. We're gonna save ourselves,” Smith said. “And any politician that wants our vote moving forward, they better be on the side of our thinking otherwise, you're not gonna get our vote. We're not gonna be sheep anymore.”

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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2020, 11:19:44 pm »
This is how easy it actually is to apply the Second Amendment:

https://twitter.com/LASDHQ/status/1304993095725932545

So, why hasn't this been done against ICE and CBP since 2017?

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2020, 12:03:00 am »
Note that it took place in the "ghetto" "non-white" city of Compton, while (mostly) "White" False Leftists are still busy holding carboard signs.

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2020, 11:06:46 am »
Do we know the history of the two deputies that were shot in Compton? Do we know what they were doing at the location where they were shot? Why can't this stuff happen during unlawful arrests?

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https://us.yahoo.com/news/armed-black-group-men-licensed-100029374.html

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Before he drove to the grocery store parking lot, Romeal Taylor did the same thing he's done every day this summer — he holstered his 9-millimeter handgun to the waistband of his gym shorts until he could feel it hug his right hip.

When he arrived at the store in north Minneapolis he spotted six other Black men, some in tactical gear, armed with Glock 23s and Smith & Wesson M&Ps.

I am worried about the emphasis on handguns. I hope these guys also own rifles.

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They had come together for a meet-and-greet to introduce themselves to the community, marking one of the first public gatherings of the Minnesota Freedom Fighters.
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Leslie Redmond, president of the Minneapolis National Assn. for the Advancement of Colored People, said she is happy the men are armed and wants them to grow as community leaders.

"These brothers were there in the beginning, when threats were being made by white supremacists," she said. "There is no doubt they stepped up for the community."

Taylor and other members view the group as a way to provide safety for peaceful protesters. But they also understand that Black men armed with legally registered guns are viewed differently by many in law enforcement and other parts of society than, say, white militia members who stormed state capitols waving their firearms without repercussions in recent months.

Nonetheless, he said, “We are like any other American.... We have the right to bear arms.”
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At this point, 36% of white people nationwide own a gun, according to the Pew Research Center, compared with 24% of Black people.

This is not good enough. (Remember that "blacks" are only 10% of the population! 24% of 10% is just 2.4%!)

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In a nearby suburb in 2016, Philando Castile, who had a licensed firearm, was killed by police during a traffic stop after he let an officer know that he had a legal weapon.

Think about this for a moment. Owning a firearm but not using it makes us less safe than not owning a firearm. It is USING firearms (e.g. to create no-go zones) that makes us safe, not owning them.