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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #285 on: March 04, 2022, 10:43:52 pm »
More evidence Jews are part of Western Civilization:
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The Haskalah, often termed Jewish Enlightenment (Hebrew: השכלה; literally, "wisdom", "erudition" or "education"), was an intellectual movement among the Jews of Central and Eastern Europe, with certain influence on those in Western Europe and the Muslim world. It arose as a defined ideological worldview during the 1770s, and its last stage ended around 1881, with the rise of Jewish nationalism.

The Haskalah pursued two complementary aims. It sought to preserve the Jews as a separate, unique collective, and it pursued a set of projects of cultural and moral renewal, perhaps most notably a revival of Hebrew for use in secular life, which resulted in an increase in Hebrew found in print. Concurrently, it strove for an optimal integration in surrounding societies. Practitioners promoted the study of exogenous culture, style, and vernacular, and the adoption of modern values. At the same time, economic productivization was pursued. The Haskalah promoted rationalism, liberalism, freedom of thought, and enquiry, and is largely perceived as the Jewish variant of the general Age of Enlightenment.
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The Maskilim sought to replace the framework of values held by the Ashkenazim of Central and Eastern Europe with their own philosophy, which embraced the liberal, rationalistic notions of the 18th and 19th centuries and cast them in their own particular mold. This intellectual upheaval was accompanied by the desire to practically change Jewish society.
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The Jewish Enlighteners pursued two parallel agendas: they exhorted the Jews to acculturate and harmonize with the modern state, and demanded that the Jews remain a distinct group with its own culture and identity.
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It opposed the reclusive community of the past but sought a maintenance of a strong Jewish framework (with themselves as leaders and intercessors with the state authorities); the Enlightened were not even fully agreeable to civic emancipation, and many of them viewed it with reserve, sometimes anxiety. In their writings, they drew a sharp line between themselves and whom they termed "pseudo-maskilim" – those who embraced the Enlightenment values and secular knowledge but did not seek to balance these with their Jewishness, but rather strove for full assimilation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haskalah

According to the article, the "assimilationist" faction was very transient and was quickly overpowered by the identitarian faction (who had now upgraded traditional Jewish identitarianism with the modern strategic and intellectual foundations of the "Enlightenment").
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The Jewish national movements of Eastern Europe, founded by disillusioned maskilim, derisively regarded it – in a manner similar to other romantic-nationalist movements' understanding of the general Enlightenment – as a naive, liberal and assimilationist ideology which induced foreign cultural influences, gnawed at the Jewish national consciousness and promised false hopes of equality in exchange for spiritual enslavement. This hostile view was promulgated by nationalist thinkers and historians, from Peretz Smolenskin, Ahad Ha'am, Simon Dubnow and onwards. It was once common in Israeli historiography.[12]
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The term Haskalah became synonymous, among friends and foes alike and in much of early Jewish historiography, with the sweeping changes that engulfed Jewish society (mostly in Europe) from the late 18th Century to the late 19th Century. It was depicted by its partisans, adversaries and historians like Heinrich Graetz as a major factor in those; Feiner noted that "every modern Jew was identified as a maskil and every change in traditional religious patterns was dubbed Haskalah".

While Zionism (i.e. Jewish tribalism) pre-dates Herzl and is as old as Jews themselves, it was this "Enlightenment" which allowed those like him to upgrade Jewish identitarianism to a level which was previously unseen. During this time period, Jews had become politically "emancipated" by Western governments, and Jews had correspondingly "emancipated" Jewishness so that it was now possible for Jewish tribal/racial identity to exist completely seperately from Jewish religion.
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The haskalah also resulted in the creation of a secular Jewish culture, with an emphasis on Jewish history and Jewish identity, rather than on religion. This, in turn, resulted in the political engagement of Jews in a variety of competing ways within the countries where they lived on issues that included[citation needed]

    the struggle for Jewish emancipation
    involvement in new Jewish political movements, and
    later (in the face of continued persecutions in late nineteenth-century Europe), the development of Zionism.

One commentator describes these effects thusly "The emancipation of the Jews brought forth two opposed movements: the cultural assimilation, begun by Moses Mendelssohn, and Zionism, founded by Theodor Herzl in 1896." [16]

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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #287 on: March 05, 2022, 08:57:58 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-no-evidence-putin-032550638.html

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Fact check: No evidence Putin banned Rothschild family from Russia
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Rothschild & Co., the financial advising company owned by the Rothschild family, has an office in Moscow, according to its website. A version of the company's site archived Feb. 25 says it has had an "on-the-ground" presence in Russia for over a decade.

"Our Moscow team offers local clients the full range of our advisory services and holds an in-depth understanding of local and regional dynamics, and unparalleled high-level and government access supported by our senior advisers," reads the page.

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« Reply #288 on: March 05, 2022, 11:23:53 pm »
The claim that Putin was anti-Rothschild is how many rightists and false-leftist "conspiracy theorists" ended up in the Putin camp back in the day. I remember Mark Glenn often bringing up this point on his "Ugly Truth" forum when it still existed. Glenn also became a Trump supporter ultimately. It is around that time I stopped listening to anything he had to say.

I almost liked Putin back when I was reading the Justice For Germans website, but something in my blood always brings me back round to being suspicious of Russia and Putin. Perhaps the fact that my grandfather and great grandfather both ended up having to shoot at Russians has something to do with it? lol....

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« Reply #289 on: March 05, 2022, 11:27:16 pm »
 :-\Many of the "conspiracy theorists" promoting the "Putin is anti-Rothschild" meme are Jews themselves! (e.g. Milton "Nathanael" Kapner)
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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #292 on: March 10, 2022, 11:59:26 pm »
Note the Jewish names of the academics interviewed:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/psychology-putin-dangers-militarized-masculinity-152036840.html

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"We can talk about geopolitical and geostrategic reasons for the Russian invasion of Ukraine, which is obviously important, but there's also a subtext that is rarely acknowledged in discussions about violence, which is that there are direct links to gender and, in this case, beliefs about manhood," said Jackson Katz, an expert on gender and violence and author of "Man Enough?: Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton, and the Politics of Presidential Masculinity." "This is the violence, the brutality that is associated with Putin's traditional masculine ideals. It's not just about cosplaying or a silly boy posing as a tough guy. It's not just about image and theatrics. This is actually the concrete and material brutality that is linked to those images and those narratives."
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"For a hundred years machismo and hypermasculinity have been really key to the exercise of authoritarian rule," said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a historian at New York University who studies fascism and authoritarian leaders.

So they talk like they think that masculinity is a bad thing. Yet they then turn right around to recommend that the way to deal with Putin is to indulge his masculinity!

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"Putin has gone through a kind of public humiliation," Ben-Ghiat said. "His military has been shown to be less efficient and modernized than we thought. His propaganda apparatus has been shut down abroad. The whole world practically has united against him. So in a situation like that, unfortunately, these male leaders can become kind of nihilistic because they feel like they can't back down."

Katz said there may be a temptation to shame Putin, to punish or mock him, but it's possible for a leader like Putin that will only result in more violence. Ben-Ghiat said the only way to appeal to a leader like Putin is to give him a way to back down that allows him to maintain his belief that he is a strong man.
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"But the problem is they don't really back down. If you're this hypermasculine leader and you back down, that's dangerous for you politically in your own country. Someone has to find a solution that allows them to save face so they can project it as a win."

Such a "solution" is not a solution at all. Our duty (note the classic Jewish inversion trick of calling a duty a "temptation") is to shame, punish and mock Putin. If he initiates more violence as a result, that is his fault alone. Our duty then is simply to respond with more retaliatory violence. Ahimsa is about we ourselves never initiating violence, not about indulging those who are inclined to initiate violence so that they do not initiate as much violence as they otherwise might. In fact, by the very action of indulging them, we would become the ones initiating violence in their stead, since all indulgence ultimately means giving them what is not owed to them (ie. stealing for them).

(Yep, you just saw two Jewish academics argue that the best way to stop Putin from stealing is for us to do the stealing for him. That is Jewish logic for you.)
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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #294 on: March 14, 2022, 11:16:25 am »
Malcolm X on "White" liberals and Jews:
https://youtu.be/EL_BFvGA4Bo

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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #295 on: March 16, 2022, 09:51:15 pm »
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2022/03/16/jewish-democrats-slam-amnesty-for-wanting-to-get-rid-of-jewish-state/

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An Amnesty International official said his organization is opposed to Israel continuing to exist as a Jewish state, prompting a rare condemnation from all 25 Jewish House Democrats.

“We are opposed to the idea — and this, I think, is an existential part of the debate — that Israel should be preserved as a state for the Jewish people,” Paul O’Brien, the human rights watchdog’s U.S. director, was cited by the Jewish Insider as saying at a luncheon with the Women’s National Democratic Club in Washington.

O’Brien was slammed for taking a position on how an established state should self-define.
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In a rare move, all 25 Jewish House Democrats on Monday signed onto a statement denouncing O’Brien’s comments.

If we were criticizing Israel frequently, I guarantee that unanimous Jewish denunciations of our criticisms will soon cease to be rare!

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« Reply #296 on: March 17, 2022, 09:35:52 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/billionaire-russian-oligarch-says-doesnt-112233920.html

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Mikhail Fridman said he didn't know how to live after being hit by sanctions, Bloomberg reported.

He said he had an allowance of $3,300 a month and needed UK government permission to spend money.

If I had $3300 per month to spend, I wouldn't know what to spend it on!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Fridman

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Mikhail Maratovich Fridman (also transliterated Mikhail Friedman;[4][5][6][7] Russian: Михаи́л Мара́тович Фри́дман; born 21 April 1964) is a Ukrainian-born,[8] Russian oligarch.[9] He also holds Israeli citizenship.[2][3]
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he is Jewish,[23]
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In 1996 Fridman was one of the founders of the Russian Jewish Congress,[9] and he has been active in it since then,[192] including having been its vice president and head of its cultural committee.[29] He is a major donor to the European Jewish Fund, which promotes inter-religious dialogue.[9] In 2007,[193] Fridman along with Stan Polovets, Alexander Knaster, Petr Aven, and German Khan founded the Genesis Philanthropy Group, whose purpose is to develop and enhance Jewish identity among Russian-speaking Jews worldwide.[194][193][195] The Genesis Prize, which the group founded in 2012, is a million-dollar annual prize for Jewish contributions to humanity.[194][9] Fridman was also one of the major funders of the Holocaust memorial project at Babi Yar in Kyiv, Ukraine, which was launched in 2016.[196][191]


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Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #297 on: March 17, 2022, 11:10:38 pm »
https://youtu.be/ALZuEjYL_HA

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« Reply #298 on: March 25, 2022, 02:14:58 am »
Previously:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg11536/#msg11536

Now we know why:

https://www.businessinsider.in/politics/world/news/zelenskyy-reportedly-asked-biden-to-drop-plans-to-sanction-a-russian-oligarch-who-took-part-in-peace-talks/articleshow/90423996.cms

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The US dropped plans to sanction the Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich following a request from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.

I never liked Zelensky.

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« Reply #299 on: March 26, 2022, 04:15:33 pm »
The Jewish card in Russian special operations against Ukraine
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The following statements are taken from the website of the “Eurasian Youth Movement”:

Rabbis and Eurasians joining forces in the struggle against Nazism

21 August 2007

On 20 August an official meeting took place at the synagogue located on Spasoglenishchevskii Pereulok [Lane] in Moscow between the leader of the Eurasian Youth Movement, Pavel Zarifullin, and the chief rabbi of Russia, Adolf Shaevich. During the talks the leader of the EYM and the chief rabbi of Russia reached the conclusion that they have one common enemy—contemporary Ukrainian neo-Nazism, the quasi-official ideology of the “Orange” government of Victor Yushchenko of Ukraine.

From the Novosti portal “Eurasia”:

Eurasians and Jews are for traditionalism and against Ukrainian state fascism

11 November 2008

On 11 November a meeting took place in the Moscow synagogue located in Mariina Roshcha between the chief rabbi of Russia, Berl Lazar, and the head of the main administration of the International “Eurasian Movement,” Pavel Zarifullin.

During the talks Rabbi Lazar expressed his profound concern in connection with the revival of Nazism in Ukraine and the Baltic republics. He discussed the awarding of the title of “Hero of Ukraine” to the SS executioner Shukhevych. Russia’s chief rabbi emphasized that Ukraine’s accession to the EU and other international organizations should be prevented, and he appealed to the guests to use their connections and reputations in the struggle against the restoration of Nazism.

On 17 September 2008 the well-known Russian journalist Aleksandr Prokhanov and editor of the newspaper Zavtra (Tomorrow)—of whom it is said, “What Putin has on his mind, Prokhanov has on his tongue”—the same Prokhanov who openly calls himself an imperialist—was interviewed by the Ekho Moskvy radio station: “Stalin is becoming the face of Russia…Russia is a potential superpower. Otherwise, it will fall apart.” He went on to declare: “We have achieved this very crisis in Ukraine.” In reply to the female journalist’s question, “What must be done right now?” he said: “Yushchenko must be neutralized.”

High-ranking Russian politicians, particularly the mayor of Moscow, are publicly issuing claims to Ukrainian territory. Cultivated and welcomed by the Russian leadership, provocateurs are plundering national Ukrainian hallowed sites on Mt. Hoverla, and shredding and trampling the Ukrainian flag near the Ukrainian Embassy in Israel. During a press conference held on 28 October 2008 Vitaly Churkin, the Permanent Representative of the Russian Federation at the UN, made the following comment about the Holodomor, the Great Famine of 1932-33 in Ukraine: “…the Ukrainian government is using this question in order to create mischief between our two fraternal nations and sow discord between our peoples…No matter what repressions or actions were carried out by the Stalinist regime, it cannot be called the primary cause of the Famine…And it is wrong to say that the Stalinist regime was against the Ukrainian people.”
Entire article: https://khpg.org/en/1245844840


Adolf Shayevich, Russia's Chief Rabbi

Pavel Zarifullin, Eurasian Youth Movement

See also: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/re-duginism-1134/
                https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/duginism/