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Re: Western Democracy
« Reply #120 on: November 09, 2022, 02:38:45 pm »
Still supporting democracy, leftists?

https://rmx.news/article/majority-of-germans-have-big-worry-about-huge-migrant-influx/

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A new poll shows that despite Germany’s left-wing government pushing for more migrants, a majority of the public either rejects or strongly rejects higher levels of immigration.

Leftism should be about what is ethical, not what is popular with the demos.

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The German government has made a number of proposals not only designed to increase migrant numbers but also to speed up the citizenship process and provide a massive amnesty to illegal immigrants. These are all moves that will only further drive more people to enter the country by any means necessary, including through the service of human smugglers.

The German government is also pushing Italy’s new conservative government to accept all boat migrants from the various NGO vessels operating off the Italian coast.

Why should a government like this not rule autocratically (and moreover prohibit all opposed to amnesty from reproducing)?

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Re: Western Democracy
« Reply #121 on: November 15, 2022, 08:45:14 pm »
This is the kind of result that democracy was designed to deliver:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIgjB8_Tubk

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Re: Western Democracy
« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2022, 05:58:21 pm »
https://rmx.news/france/two-thirds-of-french-want-stricter-immigration-policy-new-poll-shows/

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Nearly seven out of ten French people believe that the state should adopt a stricter policy regarding the reception of migrants, according to a poll by the CSA institute for CNEWS published on Tuesday.
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It is not the only poll showing the French opposed to mass immigration, with past polls consistently showing the vast majority of French want a halt to immigration.

Meanwhile:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/climate-refugees/msg16453/#msg16453

So do you really think democracy is the way to get climate refugees the help they need?

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Re: Western Democracy
« Reply #123 on: November 18, 2022, 07:58:50 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/rising-tide-of-immigration-to-europe-pushing-continents-politics-to-the-right-experts-say-004400696.html

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“Europe is a very, very wealthy region. If we look at it globally, and particularly the EU, by the end of 2021, for example, less than 10% of the world’s refugees were living in the EU. So if we look at it globally, [taking in more refugees] is very much something that the EU could manage effectively and humanely.”

This is the straightforward truth. If government simply operated according to this accurate information, there would be no problems. Now enter democracy to mess everything up:

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However, Anna Knoll, head of migration and mobility at the European Centre for Development Policy Management, is concerned that humanitarian efforts are giving life to right-wing movements across the continent.

“You see countries like Sweden or Italy flipping more to the right side of the political spectrum,” Knoll told Yahoo News. “I think states are realizing they cannot afford having more refugees situated there or more irregular migrants coming in, because it does potentially push the voters more to the right. Obviously we try to balance this — we have principles, we have values and we are also a sanctuary for refugees. But we cannot allow everyone in.”

You could allow everyone in by rejecting democracy. Why does democracy matter more than helping refugees? More fundamentally, why should unethical opinions (no matter how popular) be listened to at all?

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“If everything comes together — more migrants, super-high energy prices, inflation hitting the roof — at some point I wonder how much the system can take before people say, ‘No, we don’t want this.’”

If they don't want this, they are also free to emigrate! That is what we should be telling them instead of capitulating to them! But False Leftists will never reach this obvious conclusion so long as they refuse to question democracy itself.
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Re: Western Democracy
« Reply #124 on: November 22, 2022, 09:28:25 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/study-majority-iranians-want-regime-175729420.html

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Study: Majority of Iranians want regime change as country's protests continue to grow

As protests against the Islamic regime in Iran continue, a new study by the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change found 84% of Iranians support regime change.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/iran/msg16485/#msg16485

This is how inferior the majority of Iranians are. Let's use this opportunity to get Iran's population back down to the pre-colonial population:



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Over three-fourths polled consider religion unimportant in their lives, and they prefer a more secular life than the current theocratic one.

They are free to emigrate.