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Superiority cannot be taught
« on: July 13, 2020, 11:17:30 pm »
OLD CONTENT

digest.bps.org.uk/2019/04/10/finally-some-research-into-whether-diversity-training-actually-works-unfortunately-its-not-very-promising/

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there’s little evidence-backed consensus about which sorts of diversity programmes work, and why, and there have been long-standing concerns in some quarters that these programmes don’t do much at all, or that they could actually be harmful.

Bigots cannot learn not to be bigots, and non-bigots never needed to learn it. The only way to end bigotry is to prohibit the bigoted from reproducing. We have been saying all this long ago.

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Someone starting to shift from False Left to True Left:

www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/we-used-to-think-photos-like-this-could-change-the-world-what-needs-to-change-is-who-we-are/2019/06/26/53c9087a-982d-11e9-830a-21b9b36b64ad_story.html

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We used to think photos like this could change the world. What needs to change is who we are.
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Salvadoran migrant Óscar Alberto Martínez Ramírez and his toddler daughter, Valeria, died Sunday after being swept away by a strong current while the family was trying to cross the Rio Grande into the United States. Unknown to most of the world until this week, they are now briefly famous, a toddler in red shorts and tiny shoes, tucked inside her father’s dark T-shirt, seemingly at rest as if napping with her dad on a hot afternoon.
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Because these images have already broken through our own resistance to seeing pain and tragedy in the world, we imagine that they must break through the collective conscience as powerful political icons. They enter our consciousness almost by stealth and then explode, and that is how we assume they’ll work in the public square, too.

So the image gets shared on social media, and is seen repeatedly on cable television and sometimes in the pages of newspapers. As it circulates, we believe it will acquire enough force and familiarity that our political leaders will have to do something different — change policies, reverse course, revise their own understanding of the severity of a problem. For more than a century, this metaphor has been in operation behind the scenes whenever journalists, or activists, hold up photographs to the world, and say: This is a truth you must acknowledge.
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But when nationalism has successfully dehumanized the other, there is no breaking through, and people who imagine that a photographic message must assuredly be so powerful that it will touch all hearts are forced to grapple with a more confounding truth: Not all consciences operate alike, not everyone is susceptible to what seems a basic, even rudimentary level of empathy. And so, there is a paradox: We resist the idea of living in an us-vs.-them world only to find that our basic sense of “us” is already fractured. We look out at our fellow humans and can’t honestly understand how their minds work. At some level, we think, “Can’t you see what is happening in this image?” As if seeing and understanding are identical.
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You may look at this photo and think that its deep message is “We are all hoping for a better life and will take extraordinary risks on behalf of those we love.” But someone else will probably say, “People shouldn’t cross borders without permission.” The drowning becomes a kind of punishment, a river stands in for ideas of human authority, and the photograph doesn’t break through anything. It merely reiterates an old and cherished belief: Bad things happen to those who break the rules.

There is a fundamental difference between these two interpretations: One requires time and effort, an act of engaged empathy, while the other is a quick judgment that reaffirms an existing sense of the world. The power of a photograph like this depends on the time we devote to it and our basic sense of who these people are. For the few hours or days that this photograph elicits chatter and argument, there will be efforts to make it an allegory of law and judgment rather than an opportunity for moral imagination and compassion.

The part in bold is the shift.

There is no "paradox", however, and it is False Left to think that there is. Yes, we - like you - resist the idea of living in an us-vs-them world. But we - unlike you - do not resist the idea of living in a superior-vs-inferior world. Those who lack universalist empathy are inferior. They are not "our fellow humans", they are barbarians who should be exterminated.

And the need for effort to empathize is itself a sign of inferiority, albeit on a more advanced tier. The truly empathic require no effort to empathize (if anything almost all our effort during most of our waking lives is spent on suppressing our empathy so that we can retain marginal functionality in mainstream society where we witness non-stop violence everywhere we look). But this is the difference between True Leftists and False Leftists. In the author's words, False Leftists possess a "resistance to seeing pain and tragedy in the world" (though to their credit they are at least willing to expend effort to overcome this resistance). True Leftists, in contrast, rarely seeing anything except pain and tragedy.

Furthermore, this False Left author really does fail to understand how rightist minds work. Do you really think the rightists believe "people" shouldn't cross borders without permission? What rightists believe is that "non-whites" shouldn't cross borders without "white" permission, whereas "whites" can do Manifest Destiny for centuries without deserving any punishment whatsoever. And this is underpins the first point. They do not see "non-whites" as "people", so why should we see them as "our fellow humans"?

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People are starting to understand what is required:

www.infowars.com/death-camps-for-trump-supporters-posted-on-homes-cars-belonging-to-republican-congressmans-staff/

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The ‘death camps for Trump supporters’ fliers that were seen in New York yesterday have now been posted on homes and cars belonging to the staff of Republican Congressman Lee Zeldin.

Zeldin (Jew) is a notable critic of Omar.

Unfortunately, AOC is not even close to getting it yet:

news.yahoo.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-white-supremacists-091015953.html

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But then Ocasio-Cortez made a direct appeal to racists and white supremacists ― and her message was simple: “Come back.”

She also called on those “radicalized in a funnel of vitriol” to turn away from hate, promising that they would be welcomed with love in return:

“There is a mother waiting for you, I know it. I know there’s a teacher waiting for you, saying, ‘What happened to my kid? What happened to my friend?’ And we will always be here and hold space for you to come back. We will love you back. You are not too far gone.”

They do not deserve our love. To love them despite what they have done is to insult their victims. What happened to those kids in cages, AOC? Many of them have died. They aren't able to come back to be loved by those who care about them. Yet you want me to believe it is fair to give give those who cheered them being put in cages a chance to come back and be loved?

True Leftists have only one message to white supremacists: WE WILL REPLACE YOU.

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You cannot defeat racism merely by banning its social expression. I have said this from the beginning, and now the researchers confirm it:

gwtoday.gwu.edu/novel-mapping-model-tracks-how-hate-spreads-and-adapts-online (ignore innacurate use of word "hate")

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The researchers saw clusters creating new adaptation strategies in order to regroup on other platforms or re-enter a platform after being banned. For example, clusters can migrate and reform on other platforms or use different languages to avoid detection. This allows the cluster to quickly bring back thousands of supporters to a platform where they have been banned and highlights the need for cross-platform cooperation to limit online hate groups.

“The analogy is no matter how much weed killer you place in a yard, the problem will come back, potentially more aggressively. In the online world, all yards in the neighborhood are interconnected in a highly complex way—almost like wormholes. This is why individual social media platforms like Facebook need new analysis such as ours to figure out new approaches to push them ahead of the curve,” Dr. Johnson said.

And even in face of their own results, the False Left researchers still don't get it:

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The team, which included researchers at the University of Miami, used insights from its online hate mapping to develop four intervention strategies that social media platforms could immediately implement based on situational circumstances:

Reduce the power and number of large clusters by banning the smaller clusters that feed into them.
Attack the Achilles’ heel of online hate groups by randomly banning a small fraction of individual users in order to make the global cluster network fall apart.
Pit large clusters against each other by helping anti-hate clusters find and engage directly with hate clusters.
Set up intermediary clusters that engage hate groups to help bring out the differences in ideologies between them and make them begin to question their stance.

It should be obvious why all of the above methods will fail for exactly the same reason that they themselves already stated(!): clusters will regroup elsewhere as fast as they are banned anywhere. We can win debates against racists all day and they will just start repeating the same discredited arguments again the next day somewhere else.

Racism exists in the blood of racists. The only serious way to defeat racism is to terminate every last racist bloodline in the world. Anything else is dangerous delusion precisely because it creates the illusion of activism that lulls anti-racists into a false sense of achievement.

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Dr. Johnson found that the varied ways individuals can interpret common information leads to polarization. People interpret news stories differently based on what is going on in their lives, he said, and these extremes are likely to be enhanced over time because of social media algorithms designed to reduce division. These findings contradict a common perception that polarized media consumption is what creates greater ideological divides and feeds online extremism.

No, people interpret news stories differently based on their genes. A poor racist who wins the lottery does not become less racist because of winning the lottery.

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I told you so:

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/deradicalize-hate-groups-experts-1.5255835

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While people might wish for a magic pill or program, there is no easy way to guide someone away from hateful, racist ideologies, deradicalization experts say.
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Deradicalization, the experts said, is most successful if mentors can reach people before their racist or discriminatory views become hardened
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"There has to be a will for them to want to leave that lifestyle behind," he said. "It's not approaching active members. That becomes a very hard and very unsafe and unethical process."

Unethical, because it can put the volunteer or counsellor in jeopardy of retaliation, said Galloway. Even though there's a low chance of success and there could be risks to his safety, he said he still tries to reach them.

"I've done some work speaking with active people online. Just saying to them, 'Hey, you know, if and when you feel like there's a change in your life that you want to make toward leaving those groups, you know we're here.'"

If they want to leave racism, they will do so without your help, and if they don't want to leave racism, you will not convince them to do so. So why do you even bother?

There is a magic pill for ending racism, however. Whatever prevents racists from reproducing will suffice.

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More leftists getting it:

www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/trumps-minneapolis-rally-demonstration-moral-145900190.html

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It was surely a swift process for some people. Here's a talk-radio soundboard running for president, yelling about Mexicans and Muslims and how we need a Big, Beautiful Wall to keep Those People out. He knows whose country this is. He knows who should make the rules, and who ought to shut up and follow them. He knows who gets a seat at the table in America. They were in from the jump, from the moment they first stood at a rally and felt that twisted power coursing through their veins.

But others, you have to think, were more gradual converts. Maybe they felt the world was passing them by. Maybe they didn't know until he came along how much they needed an outlet for their rage at a million quotidian cuts—the new boss who doesn't look like a boss should look, having to press "1" for English. They were primed for it, sure, but it took a while to fully commit. Day after day, as they continued to support him—through the racist tirades and the attacks on veterans and their families and the exploding allegations that he is a serial sexual predator—they were forced to give up more and more of themselves to stay on-board. And as they gave up more of themselves, they became more and more devout in their allegiance to The Movement. At some point, the sunk cost became insurmountable. There is no going back now. They have given all of themselves to him.
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This is how he thinks he can win reelection: by continuing to pull his base of support towards more vitriolic expressions of this vision of America as a country for and by white people; by scaring other constituencies away from speaking out; by using the Republican Party's machinations to stop inconvenient voters from voting; by smearing his opponents as Just As Bad As Him, They Just Pretend to Be Prim and Proper; by soliciting foreign meddling that will benefit him in exchange for favors when he is reelected.

All the while, he will drag his supporters deeper and deeper into the abyss. They cannot be reached now, only stopped.

They are not going to change their viewpoint even if Trump loses in 2020. If anything, they will only move even further right. In fact many of them have been saying by mid 2017 that Trump himself is not rightist enough. The ideal candidate they would actually want would make Trump look moderate in comparison.

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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2020, 11:24:45 pm »
OLD CONTENT contd.

Someone begins to get it:
www.thedailybeast.com/today-show-falls-into-classic-white-nationalist-trap-gives-platform-to-racist-leader

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Since the run-up to the 2016 election, news outlets have semi-regularly hosted white nationalists for sweeping interviews about their beliefs. If the racists reveal their racism, the logic goes, the American populace will be repulsed. In actuality, Americans are already pretty familiar with racism. Those who already oppose it will be repelled by the racists on their screens—but viewers who harbor their own racist resentments might see something else in these televised interviews: an ally.

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They are getting it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DugBWDOxjhI

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The False Left still doesn't get it:

us.yahoo.com/news/americas-overdue-reckoning-white-supremacy-071510491.html

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America is amidst an overdue reckoning for the systemic racism that has been a fundamental feature of our culture for 400 years. President Abraham Lincoln seemed to cast slavery as America's original sin, and in his second inaugural address acknowledged that if “all the wealth piled by the bond man's 250 years of unrequited toil shall be sunk,” that would be a fair judgment on the United States.

Yet here we are, a century-and-a-half later, and America has failed to atone for this original sin while committing myriad others against people of color.

Now it feels like the world is spiraling out of control. We are experiencing the effects of ignoring, minimizing and rationalizing sin. If you are uncomfortable with the word sin, just use the word evil in its place. We have allowed evil to flourish.

Yes, and do you know why? Because you made the mistake of believing evil people can be taught not to be evil.

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Yes, it’s a scary and chaotic historical moment, but, in the end, this might be what it takes for white people to finally face up to our failure to eradicate the white supremacy that infects our society. As my friend and anti-racism educator Lisa Sharon Harper says, “The only course of action for white people now is repentance and repair.”

I’ll start: I repent for my lack of action. I repent for my lack of urgency. I repent for not listening more. I repent for lacking humility. If the religious language of repentance alienates you, then just try saying, “I’m sorry.”

Words mean nothing. Either racists voluntarily refrain from reproducing or they cannot claim repentance.

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So what does repair look like?

Lincoln made clear that it was not just the enslavement of black people, which was heinous enough, but also the wealth that was accumulated from their “unrequited toil” that was a stain on America. There can be no true repair without monetary reparations. This country would not exist in its current form without the free labor of black people. Even post-slavery, black people have never been paid fairly for their work, and they typically lack the generational wealth that benefits many white Americans.

For those who say reparations are impossible, I say, “Do your homework.” Reparations have worked in various other contexts, and they can work here. Working toward official reparations will take time, but in the meantime use your money to support the BIPOC Project (Black, Indigenous and People of Color) that's doing the work of dismantling white supremacy.

No. As I have said before, monetary "reparations" amount to bribing the victim to drop the charges. A victim with dignity does not accept bribes. The only sincere reparation is to leave behind no biological descendants.

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Repair also looks like giving up the need to center your experience and your feelings. When you feel hurt by a criticism of white people, deal with that on your own. You do not ask BIPOC to help you feel better. Don’t go to them with your tears about how hard it is to face your own racism. (Believe it or not, this happens all the time.) You do not treat black and brown people as your unofficial pastor to confess your racist sins to. They’ve had enough trauma and don’t need you to unload yours on them.

Repair looks like privileging the experiences and perspectives of BIPOC over the white narrative. They actually know more about what it’s like to live their lives than you do. Listen to them. Repair looks like you interrogating your own privileges and biases and unlearning your own toxic behavior.

But how can you guarantee that such behaviour, which is heritable (indeed which evolved because racism is an extremely efficient survival strategy):

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/ethnotribalism-the-computer-simulation/

will not arise again in future generations of the same bloodlines? The only answer is to voluntarily refrain from reproducing. Anything else is insincere and deserves to be treated with contempt, especially by the sincere anti-racists who are voluntarily refraining from reproducing.

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Biden, in Town Hall (Censored by YouTube) Estimates up to 15% of Americans Bad (VT goes higher, says ‘psychopaths)
Daily Beast: Joe Biden thinks that around 10 to 15 percent of Americans are “not very good people,” but that the “vast majority of the people are decent” and want to get along with each other.

The former vice president and presumptive Democratic nominee appeared to get his figure out of thin air during an online town hall event with some of his black supporters on Thursday night. From 2017, not censored by YouTube.

Probably closer to 90% I'd say. It all depends on what criteria you are using to judge whether a person is "good" or not, right? I mean, if we judge a person as being good only if they have never initiated violence against another, then maybe only 5% or less of people are actually good, no? Whose eating all those billions of animals (people according to Mohammed and Jesus) that get tortured to death in U.S. flesh factories every year?

Better hope there is not a true and living God who so judges....

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Biden was discussing the importance of a president setting a good example for the nation on race issues, and accused President Trump of actively working to divide the country and making “the worst of us to come out.”

www.thedailybeast.com/biden-estimates-that-as-many-as-50-million-americans-are-not-very-good-people?ref=home

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www.huffpost.com/entry/implicit-bias-training-doesnt-actually-change-police-behavior_n_5ee28fc3c5b60b32f010ed48

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If a police department can spend three years undergoing bias training and still shoot a peaceful, unarmed Black protester, what has the training really achieved?

It has achieved procrastination from using state control over reproduction to solve the problem.

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Over the last decade, implicit bias training has become one of the primary methods for law enforcement agencies and policymakers to demonstrate that they take concerns over racist policing seriously. According to a CBS survey of 155 police departments last year, 69% said they were using implicit bias training. Half said they had initiated the programs after the controversial 2014 killing of Michael Brown, a Black teenager, by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri.

In the wake of the May 25 police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis, calls have intensified to expand these programs. The mayors of Los Angeles, Milwaukee and Tampa, Florida, have signaled their intention to install or expand them. Texas and Michigan have passed bills requiring police officers to receive such training. In a Medium post, former President Barack Obama pointed readers to a toolkit urging “ongoing and scenario-based” anti-bias training for all police officers.

Despite its near-universal support among policymakers, however, research has failed to show that implicit bias training has any lasting effect on racial discrimination or the behavior of police officers.

“We don’t have any evidence that anti-bias trainings work (in general,) and we know even less about whether they work for police officers,” said Joshua Correll, a University of Colorado professor who has been studying implicit bias for more than 20 years.

A 2016 study of nine different methods for reducing bias found that none had any lasting effect after a few days. Few researchers have followed up specifically with law enforcement agencies to see if the training had any effect on the practices of officers.

“People have jumped on the idea that we should be providing this training without clear documentation that it makes any difference whatsoever,” Correll said.
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Over time, implicit bias tests have revealed that much of the population associates Black faces with criminality, violence and aggression. Test subjects are more likely to interpret an ambiguous shove as hostile when a Black person does it, for example.

Much of the population should be prohibited from reproducing.

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Researchers have also documented implicit bias in police officers. In a 2016 study, 96% of police officers associated Black Americans with weapons. Other research has found that law enforcement officers classify Black faces as more threatening and perceive ordinary objects as dangerous after viewing photos of Black people. In a laboratory experiment, researchers found that police officers were more quick to press a button labeled “shoot” when presented with a Black suspect.

This form of bias has profound implications for every aspect of police work, from deciding whether to pull over an errant driver to shooting a suspect who reaches into his pocket. These split-second decisions or subconscious choices add up to the racial disparities seen in policing. Black drivers are more likely to be stopped, searched and arrested — despite being less likely than whites to be carrying contraband. Black victims of fatal police shootings are more likely to be unarmed. The arrest rates for all kinds of misdemeanors are twice as high for Black Americans than they are for whites.

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There’s even some evidence that implicit bias training makes racist attitudes worse. Highlighting bias among police officers could reinforce the message that racism is widespread. In response, participants may resent feeling they’re being lectured about their racist views and entrench them more deeply.

Duh! The people who need the training in the first place are racists, so how else do you expect them to react?

And the people who would not react like that are those who would not need the training to begin with.

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“As individuals, we’re a conduit for the cultures in which we live,” Correll said. “So if you’re embedded in a culture that associates Black men with violence and danger, that may well swamp anything you learn in an hours-long, or even weeks-long, training.”

If education has any role to play, it should be in educating people about how absurd this stereotype is. None of the colonial powers were "black"! If anyone should be associated with "violence and danger", it should be those associated with colonialism! Even if we're talking about the US only, it sure wasn't "blacks" who came up with Manifest Destiny FFS!

Plus, how much of the following undescribably violent and dangerous stuff are "blacks" responsible for? (Answer: almost none.)

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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2020, 11:29:09 pm »
Latest epiphany:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/12/enough-of-the-psychobabble-racism-is-not-something-to-fix-with-therapy

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Unconscious bias training is a lucrative industry, but it won’t change consciously hostile policies
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More than 30 years ago, Ambalavaner Sivanandan warned against “the sort of psychospiritual mumbo-jumbo which… by reducing social problems to individual solutions, passes off personal satisfaction for political liberation”. A radical whose writings influenced a generation of activists in the 1970s and 80s, Sivanandan was an early critic of what was then called “racial awareness training”.
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A meta-analysis of almost 500 studies found that training has only a “weak” effect on an individual’s implicit-bias score, and none on their behaviour.
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We all possess implicit frameworks through which we make sense of the world. It’s always useful to question those frameworks and interrogate our prejudices.

It was not, however, unconscious bias that made a police officer place his knee on George Floyd’s neck. Or that led to the police stopping and handcuffing Bianca Williams and Ricardo dos Santos, or to the equivalent of almost a third of young black males in London being stopped and searched during lockdown. Or that created the hostile environment policy and led to the Windrush scandal. These are all the products of very conscious policies.

It sounds so obvious when someone is willing to just state it.

So, when is society going to start using our proposed solution of terminating racist bloodlines?

Still unconvinced?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Coqc94RTK-s

You seriously think someone like Neff can be taught to not be racist?
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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2020, 11:53:05 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/15/magazine/white-fragility-robin-diangelo.html

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One critique leveled at antiracism training is that it just may not work. Frank Dobbin, a Harvard sociology professor, has published research on attempts, over three decades, to combat bias in over 800 U.S. companies, including a 2016 study with Alexandra Kalev in The Harvard Business Review. (As far back as the early ’60s, he recounts in his book “Inventing Equal Opportunity,” Western Electric, responding to a Kennedy-administration initiative to enhance equity, presented lectures by Kenneth Clark and James Baldwin to company managers.) Dobbin’s research shows that the numbers of women or people of color in management do not increase with most anti-bias education. “There just isn’t much evidence that you can do anything to change either explicit or implicit bias in a half-day session,” Dobbin warns. “Stereotypes are too ingrained.”

When we first talked, and I described DiAngelo’s approach, he said, “I certainly agree with what she’s saying” about our white-supremacist society. But he noted that new research that he’s revising for publication suggests that anti-bias training can backfire, with adverse effects especially on Black people, perhaps, he speculated, because training, whether consciously or subconsciously, “activates stereotypes.” When we spoke again in June, he emphasized an additional finding from his data: the likelihood of backlash “if people feel that they’re being forced to go to diversity training to conform with social norms or laws.”

Just prohibit racists from reproducing FFS!

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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2020, 11:42:13 pm »
I told you so:

https://phys.org/news/2020-08-racism-genetic-trait.html

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New research suggests racism could be a genetic trait
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Could it be that we are born with predispositions to certain political opinions? According to the findings, the answer is yes.

"People who share the same sets of attitudes also appear to share the same genes," said Thomas Haarklau Kleppestø, Ph.D. fellow at the Department of Psychology, University of Oslo.
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As expected, the researchers found a link between SDO and political attitudes. E.g., those who favored a hierarchical structure in society often wished for stricter immigration control and reduced foreign aid.

However, the findings also revealed that peoples' SDO had a genetic connection to all the eight measured political attitudes. According to Kleppestø, this could partly explain the link between the political attitudes.

"We do not believe that our genome directly controls our political attitudes. However, we speculate that we are born with a predisposition that is strengthened over time, for example when we find friends with similar preferences," Kleppestø said.

The researchers believe that you may be born with a personality trait that could lead you into environments where it is enforced. So-called active gene-environment-correlation is well-known phenomenon in behavioral genetics.

So when do we stop the nonsense of "diversity seminars" and start just prohibiting the genetic racists from reproducing?
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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2020, 11:44:13 pm »
More leftists understand it now:



What Coleman was in middle school (a bully) is what he will always be. It is in his blood.

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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2020, 05:51:17 am »
Any debate aimed at convincing is a waste of time, provoking only a conflict between the conscious and the subconscious.  All real emotions are by default instinctive so the slightest virtue signalling is to be avoided. Our only duty is to spread the facts and observe unconscious tribalist behaviors in order to determine which ones should disappear. In this way we will immediately spot the honest tribalists and especially the hypocrites of the left serving only their own interests.



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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2020, 12:47:58 am »
Remember there are estimated to be 60 million of these in the US:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWOMU2h9L4c

Only state control over reproduction can solve the problem.
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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2020, 12:15:02 am »
And again we are vindicated:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/19/research-shows-critical-race-theory-is-actually-making-people-more-racist/

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To subject the whitelash hypothesis to a more rigorous test, I conducted a survey experiment from Aug. 1-29, 2019. In total, 1,527 white respondents were treated with “primes” representative of contemporary discussions of race and then questioned on topics of identity and group attitudes. I focused specifically on self-identified conservative and high white-identifying respondents.

To capture the effects of critical rhetoric, I used an excerpt from Macy Sto. Domingo’s “18 Things White People Seem To Not Understand (Because, White Privilege).” Among white conservatives, this “critical prime” predicted 8 percent increased support (weighted mean) for whites “work[ing] together to improve the position of their group,” in comparison to the “control group.”

To further probe the effects of critical themes on identity, I asked respondents to rate the importance of certain factors to being “truly American.” Here, critical prime exposure appears to have narrowed the boundaries of the “in-group.”

For example, conservative whites expressed 12 percent greater agreement that only those with “American ancestry” are truly American. High white-identifiers expressed 20 percent greater agreement with this same claim and 8 percent greater support for restricting American identity to those “born in the U.S.” Critical prime exposure also increased conservative “ethnocentrism,” or net “feeling thermometer” preference for whites over minorities by 5 percent.

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In most cases, findings were the opposite for white leftists. Exposure to the critical prime thus created a wider gap between the racial attitudes reported by left-leaning and conservative (also low/high white-identifying) whites.

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Re: Superiority cannot be taught
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2020, 03:06:36 am »
Do not ever try to educate Trumpists, because you will fail:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhsgDq4o500

Just take down their names and buy ammo.
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« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2020, 12:00:49 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/entertainment/father-says-wildest-dreams-never-235028573.html

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“I’m a liberal, but my son Bryson is a right-wing nut,” says Gary. “At an early age, it was ingrained in me to fight for what was socially right. But in my wildest dreams, I never imagined that one of my children would be supporting a Republican.” Bryson says he’s a conservative and voted for Donald Trump, and last year, the President even retweeted him. “My favorite thing about Trump, honestly, is his personality and the fact that he is willing to fight,” Bryson says. “My dad needs to understand I’m simply right.”

Gary could have avoided this problem simply by voluntarily refraining from reproducing. But he did not. So now the whole world has to deal with the consequences of his carelessness. (If Gary had any sense of duty, he would shoot Bryson. But my guess is that he isn't going to do that either.)

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Right-wing Viewers Upset With Trump's Loss Move From Fox To Further Right Media
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John Podhoretz, Editor, Commentary Magazine; Columnist, New York Post; NBC News Contributor, says that conservatives have to resist going too far down the path to "crazy town."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TreiaEV-upA

This is an excellent post for those false-leftists out there who are under the delusion that just because Trump is (possibly) soon to be gone that rightists are somehow going to return to sanity and that things will go back to "normal"....


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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2020, 03:08:17 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/white-house-senior-advisor-stephen-190825274.html

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The Millers have been fervent supporters of the Trump administration's child-separation policy for immigration and asylum seekers.

Stephen has been widely credited as the architect of the Trump administration's immigration policy.
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Katie Miller made headlines in July for comments on child separation she made to Jacob Soboroff, an NBC News reporter and author of the book "Separated: Inside an American Tragedy."

She told Soboroff that the Department of Homeland Security sent her "to the border to see the separations for myself — to try to make me more compassionate — but it didn't work."

Of course it didn't work. The only thing that will work is to eliminate the reproductive potential of people like her and her husband. Speaking of which:

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White House senior advisor Stephen Miller and his wife, Katie, who works as Pence's communications director, announce the birth of their first child with photos

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2020, 11:06:59 pm »
All the studies arrive at the same conclusion:

https://www.realclearscience.com/articles/2020/12/05/research_shows_diversity_training_is_typically_ineffective_652014.html

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many widely-used interventions could be ineffective or harmful. An empirical literature was built up measuring the effectiveness of diversity-related training programs. The picture that has emerged is not very flattering.
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when scientists set about to investigate whether the programs actually changed behaviors, i.e. do they reduce expressions of bias, do they reduce discrimination, do they foster greater collaboration across groups, do they help with retaining employees from historically marginalized or underrepresented groups, do they increase productivity or reduce conflicts in the workplace — for all of these behavioral metrics, the metrics that actually matter, not only is the training ineffective, it is often counterproductive.
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Training Often Reinforces Biases

Often, when people attempt to do fact-checks, they begin by underscoring the falsehood, and then proceed to try to debunk that falsehood. This can create what psychologists call an ‘illusory truth effect,’ where people end up remembering the falsehood, forgetting the correction – and then attributing their misinformation to the very source that had tried to correct it! A similar effect seems to hold with antibias training. By articulating various stereotypes associated with particular groups, emphasizing the salience of those stereotypes, and then calling for their suppression, they often end up reinforcing them in participants’ minds. Sometimes they even implant new stereotypes (for instance, if participants didn’t previously have particular stereotypes for Vietnamese people, or much knowledge about them overall, but were introduced to common stereotypes about this group through training intended to dispel said stereotypes).

Duh! What did you expect?

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Encouraging people to ignore racial and cultural differences often results in diminished cooperation across racial lines. Meanwhile, multicultural training — emphasizing those differences — often ends up reinforcing race essentialism among participants. It is not clear what the best position between these poles is (such that these negative side effects can be avoided)

None! JUST PROHIBIT RACISTS FROM REPRODUCING FFS!!

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Training Can Increase Biased Behavior, Minority Turnover

Many diversity-related training programs describe bias and discrimination as rampant. One unfortunate consequence of depicting these attitudes and behaviors as common is that it makes many feel more comfortable expressing biased attitudes or behaving in discriminatory ways. Insofar as it is depicted as ubiquitous, diversity-related training can actually normalize bias.

For others, the very fact that the company has diversity-related training is proof that it is a non-biased institution. This perception often reduces concerns about bias and discrimination – by oneself or others. As a consequence, people not only become more likely to act in more biased ways, but they also react with increased skepticism and hostility when colleagues claim to have been discriminated against.

Meanwhile, those who are discriminated against become more likely to rationalize mistreatment by others in the institution after undergoing diversity-related training (for the same reason, because they believe the institution must be fair in virtue of its commitment to diversity-related training; indeed, minority employees are often called upon to lead diversity reviews themselves). Consequently, they become less likely to actually report or address wrongdoing. As a result, problems persist unabated — often leading to higher turnover among the very groups the programs were ostensibly designed to render more comfortable.

If racists were prohibited from reproducing, all of this could be avoided before it even begins.

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Mandatory Training Causes Additional Blowback

Although diversity-related training programs are generally ineffective, and often bring negative side-effects, they tend to work better (or at least, be less harmful) when they are opt-in. Mandatory training causes people to engage with the materials and exercises in the wrong frame of mind: adversarial and resentful. Consequently, mandatory training often leads to more negative feelings and behaviors, both towards the company and minority co-workers. This effect is especially pronounced among the people who need the training most.

Just prohibit them from reproducing, and the blowback will end with their generation.

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It insults, rather than honors, the memory of George Floyd to offer empty gestures like these in his name. As Cyrus Mehri aptly put it, “When you keep choosing the options on the menu that don’t create change, you’re purposely not creating change. It’s part of the intentional discrimination.”

Yes! The correct way to honour the memory of George Floyd is to use the full weight of the state to pin all racists' reproductive organs to the ground until their genes stop breathing. This will take slightly longer than 9 minutes, though. 90 years, perhaps?
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