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True Left breakthrough: degendering
« on: April 03, 2021, 03:50:15 am »
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blogs.scientificamerican.com/voices/why-we-should-all-use-they-them-pronouns/

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Across college campuses and in a growing number of professional workplaces, it is now common to begin meetings by having people introduce themselves and state their pronouns. Pronoun preferences are showing up on e-mail signatures too.

The above is False Left.

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These new practices challenge assumptions that gender identity is always self-evident and that everyone identifies as either man or woman. But they leave intact the presumption that gender identity is relevant in all social interactions. Indeed, having to constantly announce one’s pronouns or choose an honorific may make gender seem even more important than it already is.

True Left consciousness finally appears! Yay!

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it is not surprising that many seek gender-anonymity in online chat rooms and in other virtual spaces. Not only do these spaces allow us to escape judgments based on gender, but they free us from the obligation to be gendered in the first place. Sometimes a person just wants to be a doctor or a firefighter, not a woman doctor or a female firefighter.

What if there were a way to promote gender inclusion—as announcing pronouns and adding Mx. as an option to airline reservations seek to do—without running the risk of worsening gender inequality? We think there is: using they/them for everyone, regardless of gender identity. We could similarly make Mx. the salutation for everyone or simply do away with salutations altogether.

The universal singular they is inclusive of people who identify as male, female or nonbinary (e.g., “Drew is in my class; they are a great student”). It avoids the problem of misgendering by not using pronouns to gender people in the first place.

All of which is not only what I have been saying for years, but indeed how pronouns used to work for millenia in other parts of the world prior to the colonial era (during which they shamefully altered their own previously non-gender-specific pronouns to gender-specific versions for the sake of Westernization):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_pronoun

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In 1917, the Old Chinese graph tā (她, from nǚ 女, "woman") was borrowed into the written language to specifically represent "she" by Liu Bannong. As a result, the old character tā (他), which previously also meant "she" in written texts, is sometimes restricted to meaning "he" only. ... The creation of gendered pronouns in Chinese was part of the May Fourth Movement to modernize Chinese culture, and specifically an attempt to assert sameness between Chinese and the European languages, which generally have gendered pronouns.[80]
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In the modern Japanese, kare (彼) is the male and kanojo (彼女) the female third-person pronouns. Historically, kare was a word in the demonstrative paradigm (i.e., a system involving demonstrative prefixes, ko-, so-, a-, and do-), used to point to an object that is physically far but psychologically near. The feminine counterpart kanojo, on the other hand, is a combination of kano (adjective version of ka-) and jo ("woman"), coined for the translation of its Western equivalents. It was not until the Meiji period that kare and kanojo were commonly used as the masculine and feminine pronoun in the same way as their Western equivalents.

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Back to the main article:

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To be sure, for people who have experienced the pain of being denied gender recognition in the past, announcing pronouns can lead to meaningful moments of affirmation. But this may come at a hidden cost to others. Some people feel that announcing gender, writes historian Jen Manion, of Amherst College, “requires them to make a declaration, whether they are ready, or want to.”

And, we argue, announcing pronouns may enable gender bias and discrimination. Likewise, while the use of honorifics is commonly viewed as a sign of respect, as long as the two most used options are gender-specific, use of honorifics emphasizes gender and potentially perpetuates bias and discrimination—problems we cannot afford to disregard.

I would put it more strongly: being denied gender recognition hurts the inferior, whereas being forced to announce gender hurts the superior.

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"As a trans girl is it bad if I want to be called she?"

If you live in a society where cis girls are called "she", then it is understandable that you would want to be called the same thing as cis girls, as otherwise would imply being discriminated against compared to cis girls.

But would you rather live in a society where even cis girls are not called "she" either, but instead everyone is called "they" or some other ungendered pronoun? That is the important question.

(In places which speak languages with no gendered pronouns, someone can talk about a person for ages without anyone knowing the talked-about person's gender until someone else specifically asks, no different than how we don't know the talked-about person's height (for example) without asking. Imagine how weird it would be if we had to use different pronouns for tall people and short people (heighted pronouns?)! That's how weird gendered pronouns actually are.)



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Another journalist makes the jump to True Left:

www.nytimes.com/2019/07/10/opinion/pronoun-they-gender.html

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most people guess that I go by “he” and “him.” And that’s fine; I will not be offended if you refer to me by those traditional, uselessly gendered pronouns.

But “he” is not what you should call me. If we lived in a just, rational, inclusive universe — one in which we were not all so irredeemably obsessed by the particulars of the parts dangling between our fellow humans’ legs, nor the ridiculous expectations signified by those parts about how we should act and speak and dress and feel — there would be no requirement for you to have to assume my gender just to refer to me in the common tongue.

There are, after all, few obvious linguistic advantages to the requirement. When I refer to myself, I don’t have to announce my gender and all the baggage it carries. Instead I use the gender-nonspecific “I.” Nor do I have to bother with gender when I’m speaking directly to someone or when I’m talking about a group of people. I just say “you” or “they.”
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If you write about me, interview me, tweet about me, or if you are a Fox News producer working on a rant about my extreme politics, I would prefer if you left my gender out of it. ... because the world will be slightly better off if we abandoned unnecessary gender signifiers as a matter of routine communication.
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One truth I’ve come to understand too late in life is how thoroughly and insidiously our lives are shaped by gender norms. These expectations are felt most acutely and tragically by those who don’t conform to the standard gender binary — people who are transgender or nonbinary, most obviously.

But even for people who do mainly fit within the binary, the very idea that there is a binary is invisibly stifling. Every boy and girl feels this in small and large ways growing up; you unwittingly brush up against preferences that don’t fit within your gender expectations, and then you must learn to fight those expectations or strain to live within them.

But it was only when I had a son and a daughter of my own that I recognized how powerfully gendered constructs shape our development. From their very earliest days, my kids, fed by marketing and entertainment and (surely) their parents’ modeling, seemed to hem themselves into silly gender norms. They gravitated to boy toys and girl toys, boy colors and girl colors, boy TV shows and girl TV shows. This was all so sad to me: I see them limiting their thoughts and their ambitions, their preferences and their identity, their very liberty, only to satisfy some collective abstraction. And there’s little prospect for escape: Gender is a ubiquitous prison for the mind, reinforced everywhere, by everyone, and only rarely questioned.

We’re a long way from eradicating these expectations in society. But we don’t have to be wary about eradicating them in language.

“Part of introducing the concept of gender-neutral pronouns to people is to get them to ask, ‘Why does this part of society need to be gendered in the first place?’” said Jay Wu, director of communications at the National Center for Transgender Equality. They continued: “Part of how we fix that is more and more people noticing that things are so gendered and being like, why does it have to be that way? What benefit does it bring us?”

None, I say, other than confusion, anxiety and grief.

Right (and False Left):

"In His own image created He them; male and female created He them." - Tanakh

True Left:

"When you make the male and the female one, so that the male will not be male nor the female female ... then will you enter the Kingdom.” - Jesus

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Victory:

news.yahoo.com/berkeley-bans-gendered-words-manhole-195405363.html

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The City Council in Berkeley, Calif., voted this week to ban gender-specific words in the liberal city’s municipal code, clearing the way for the changes to become official.
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The new ordinance would eliminate the use of masculine and feminine pronouns in the municipal code. Instead of “he” and “she,” the city will use “they” and “them.”

Under the heading "Gender," the amended code will read as follows:

“Whenever a personal pronoun is used in the neutral gender, it shall be deemed to include the feminine and masculine also. ‘They/them’ shall indicate a singular individual, unless the context indicates the contrary.”

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Counterculture-influenced schools vs Western protestors:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7434561/Angry-pupils-protest-outside-school-gates-against-new-pointless-gender-neutral-uniforms.html

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Police and teachers have been criticised for locking school gates to schoolchildren who protested a new 'gender neutral' uniform policy this morning, leaving pupils to wander the streets of a Sussex town.

Angry pupils and parents protested outside the gates of Priory School in Lewes over the clothing policy for the new school year.

But teachers and Sussex Police officers locked the gates on pupils and refused admittance to girls in skirts
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The Priory School in Lewes, East Sussex, forced all pupils to wear trousers in 2017 after 'concerns' were raised over the length of skirts - and to cater for transgender pupils.

It has brought in a fully gender neutral uniform and yesterday the head teacher warned pupils would be sent home if they are not wearing it.

The uniform that is causing protests:



Despite explicitly aiming at a gender-neutral uniform they still end up even at the drawing board stage with significant sexual dimorphism (note the shoes, trousers, hairstyles and even the heights)! Of course they deserve some credit for starting the journey towards reducing sexual dimorphism, but this is how deeply-embedded sexual dimorphism is in Western civilization.

Meanwhile in China:







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I think it'd be better if mandatory school uniform is abolished. School teachers and staffs don't require wearing uniforms because they're "adults".

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Without mandatory uniforms you'll just get the traditional male/female divide in clothing that are already commonplace. Mandatory uniforms for both staff and students is the way to go.

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More victory:

www.cbc.ca/news/canada/london/opp-no-longer-releasing-gender-1.5293637

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Ontario's provincial police service will no longer release the gender of people who are charged with crimes and those who are victims of crimes.
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"It doesn't matter if it was a male or a female who was an impaired driver or speeding down the highway, what matters is that we pulled them over and laid a charge."
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"We will now say "the individual" or "the accused," and not use gender-specific pronouns," Dionne said. "In the case of a suspect where we need to be more specific, we will say "appears to be a female" or "appears to be a male."

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www.rt.com/news/470964-air-canada-ladies-gentlemen/

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Employees of the top Canadian airline were instructed to drop the long-time tradition of calling their passengers “ladies and gentlemen” (or “mesdames et messieurs” when speaking French). Instead, passengers will be addressed as “everybody” and “tout le monde,” local media reported.

Note that this merely puts English and French belatedly on par with languages of lower sexual dimorphism which have never used gender-based address in the first place.

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Re: True Left breakthrough: degendering
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2021, 04:05:31 am »
LOL:



This is actually only the most recent of a series of similar poetic justice:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_reveal_party#Incidents_and_injuries

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Some instances of attempted spectacular special effects at gender-reveals have caused injury, death, and even large-scale damage.

The 2017 Sawmill Fire in Arizona was caused by a gender-reveal party that combined blue powder and an explosive. Other dangerous stunts have involved fireworks and alligators.[16]

"Gender reveal burnouts", in which cars emit billowing clouds of pink or blue smoke, are a fad that became popular in Australia around 2018. The Queensland Police Service warns that this practice is dangerous, and that there have been a number of attempted "burnouts" that resulted in flaming vehicles and arrests.[17]

In September 2019, there was a plane crash in Turkey, Texas when a low-flying crop duster was attempting to drop 350 gallons of colored water for a reveal. The pilot was not injured and the passenger received minor injuries.[18]

In October 2019, an Iowa woman was killed by debris from the explosion of a homemade device meant to reveal her relative's gender.[19]

In September 2020, a gender-reveal pyrotechnic device started the El Dorado Fire near Yucaipa, California, destroying homes, prompting evacuations, burning thousands of acres,[20][21] and causing the death of one firefighter.[22]

On February 21, 2021, the accidental explosion of an in-development gender reveal device in Liberty, New York killed the father-to-be and injured his younger brother.[23][24]

On March 29, 2021, two people were killed when a plane crashed in the Caribbean Sea off the coast of Mexico while carrying a trailing sign that read "It's a girl!"[25]
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Re: True Left breakthrough: degendering
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2021, 10:17:03 pm »
What is with Westerners' obsession with gender?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/gender-reveal-party-prompts-fears-092330692.html

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Gender reveal party prompts fears of 'earthquakes' after US couple detonates 80 pounds of explosives
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Locals in the Rockingham County area reported the foundations of their homes cracking and walls rocking to police, who located the origin of the blast in a quarry, where a family admitted to holding the gathering.
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The incident is the latest in a series of mishaps caused by lavish gender reveal parties in the United States.

A fire that damaged more than 7,000 acres of land in California was found to have been caused by a smoke-generating pyrotechnic device, used to set off streams of blue or pink, in 2020.

In 2019, a 56-year-old woman was killed instantly after a piece of shrapnel from a homemade explosive hit her in the head. Some pieces of debris flew as far as 100 yards away.

And in Arizona a party caused a week-long wildfire, devastating 45,000 acres of land, in 2017. The father of the child was handed a sentence of five years probation and fined.

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Re: True Left breakthrough: degendering
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2021, 11:16:01 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/full-stops-words-non-merci-163525577.html

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France’s education ministry has banned the use of gender-inclusive words in classrooms, saying they "harm" learning and risk cementing the status of English as the world’s dominant language.

While English is indeed lower in grammatical sexual dimorphism than French, it is nowhere near the lowest (see previous posts). Still, there is no doubt that English is qualitatively superior:

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The decree sent to schools across the country took specific aim at the practice of introducing full stops into the middle of words to denote both masculine and feminine endings, such as turning “amis” (friends) into “ami.e.s” - a so-called 'midpoint'.

In French grammar, nouns reflect the gender of the object to which they are referring and male dominates female in mixed settings - so a group of friends with nine women and one man would nevertheless be termed with the masculine ‘amis’.

Activists have long pushed for textbooks to add an ‘e’ to feminise certain words, making them more inclusive. In their preferred teaching materials, “élus”, French for elected officials, becomes “élu.e.s”, for example.

In English, "friends" and "officials" can simply be used as they are, without gender being mentioned. Whereas in French, even doing the ".e." nonsense still forces people to be reminded about gender, albeit in an indeterminate sense. In short, there is no way in French to not be constantly gender-conscious.

(But where French is with nouns, English is with pronouns, as English still has gendered pronouns, so that we have to do the "he/she" nonsense.)

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But in the decree published last week by the Education Ministry, two members of the Académie francaise, the 400-year-old institution which guards the French language, banned the use of midpoints in schools, saying they are “harmful to the practice and understanding of the French language.”

We already understand that the French language is inferior, and reflects well Western sexism:

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Most job titles in French are masculine and linguists have found evidence of women being discouraged from applying to roles with exclusively male titles.

The decree also encourages the use of femine and masculine options when posting a school job announcement - for example “le candidat or la candidate,” to make it clear the role is open to both men and women.

French linguistics has been dominated by a war between the ‘old guard’ who want to preserve traditions and Left-wing groups saying the language needs to be lifted from its ‘sexist’ roots.

By the way, here is an excerpt which highlights how ridiculously inferior gendered languages are:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_gender#Gender_contrasts_on_human_versus_sentient_referents

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In the case of languages which have masculine and feminine genders, the relation between biological sex and grammatical gender tends to be less exact in the case of animals than in the case of people. In Spanish, for instance, a cheetah is always un guepardo (masculine) and a zebra is always una cebra (feminine), regardless of their biological sex. In Russian a rat and a butterfly are always "krysa" (крыса) and "babochka" (бабочка) (feminine). To specify the sex of an animal, an adjective may be added, as in un guepardo hembra ("a female cheetah"), or una cebra macho ("a male zebra"). Different names for the male and the female of a species are more frequent for common pets or farm animals, e.g. English cow and bull, Spanish vaca "cow" and toro "bull", Russian "baran" (баран) "ram" and "ovtsa" (овца) "ewe".

As regards the pronouns used to refer to animals, these generally agree in gender with the nouns denoting those animals, rather than the animals' sex (natural gender).
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Re: True Left breakthrough: degendering
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2021, 09:22:35 pm »
I think that we should all commit to using “it” from here on out when talking about people on the forums and the blog. It might sound weird at first, but all of the languages without gendered pronouns that I know of, use one word for he, she and it. I hate using “they” as a non-gendered pronoun, because it conflates the singular and plural, and it can get confusing sometimes
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2021, 01:18:46 am »
False Leftists are "criticizing" Ted Cruz by claiming that he is "really" the emasculated one since he let Trump insult his wife. Actually, reverence towards masculinity and deference to the "alpha male" (i.e. Trump) are not contradictory at all. I would imagine an Aryanist who despised masculinity would honorably defend his wife from a Gentile's insults, much likelier than a Gentile who revered masculinity would. What do you think?
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2021, 01:57:11 am »
Care is required here. While we would defend our wives, we at the same time also expect our wives to defend us. Masculinity-worshipping men who defend their wives would be traumatized by their wives defending themselves. This is the first difference.

Secondly, when we defend our wives, it is not because (as masculinity-worshipping men think) we lack confidence in their ability to defend themselves. We are simply dividing labour.

In the Cruz case, however, as far as remember, Trump was merely saying Melania was better-looking than Heidi, so there is nothing to defend against in the first place! Given Trump's own aesthetical tastes, his opinion on people's looks is worthless! The fact that Cruz was even bothered by Trump's opinion probably means he actually agrees with it!

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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2021, 02:17:00 am »
"In the Cruz case, however, as far as remember, Trump was merely saying Melania was better-looking than Heidi, so there is nothing to defend against in the first place! Given Trump's own aesthetical tastes, his opinion on people's looks is worthless! The fact that Cruz was even bothered by Trump's opinion probably means he actually agrees with it!"

This was more or less what I was trying to get at, i.e. Cruz's reverence towards masculinity drives his deference toward alpha males, although I will say reverence toward masculinity can also drive a Gentile to despise the alpha male, but merely out of envy/tribal competition.

But the main point is that the two phenomena are not contradictory. Would you agree with this?
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2021, 02:51:20 am »
Yes. The way I would put it is: given Cruz cannot have the top spot himself, he would much prefer those above him to be more masculine than himself than less masculine than himself.

This is true not just of masculinity. In general, reverence towards any trait would imply a preference for following someone scoring higher in that trait than oneself rather than someone scoring lower in that trait than oneself. Everyone wants the power hierarchy in reality to line up with the merit hierarchy inside our minds. We just differ in what we believe constitutes merit.

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« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2021, 02:50:43 am »
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2021, 10:11:36 pm »
Contrary to recent accusations:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/reminder-we-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-183382

our ideas are being increasingly adopted:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-stop-using-terms-boy-152117540.html

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Teachers should drop the terms boys and girls in favour of “learners”, and mix up the sexes in PE classes, Stonewall has told schools.

The controversial LGBT charity is urging teachers to ditch all gendered language and gendered uniforms and suggests that children should compete against the opposite sex in sport.
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They are told that they should check their policies and remove any “unnecessarily gendered language. Instead of using ‘he’/‘she’, you could use ‘they'".

They should also teach primary school children to use “they/them” as a pronoun, it is said.
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Stonewall’s advice to educators also includes that teachers should not use 'boy, girl, boy, girl' when lining pupils up and ditch phrases such as 'man up' and 'don't be such a girl'.

Gendered language should also be avoided when discussing hair, make-up and piercings, it says.

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« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2021, 10:34:44 am »
Also, another thing I hated as a child was Westerners making even colors gender specific, e.g. "Blue is for boys, pink is for girls!"
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2021, 10:02:34 pm »
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/01/crosswords/gender-language-nonbinary.html

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In Hebrew, even the word “they” is gendered. In French, “ils” refers to a group of men or a mixed-gender group, and “elles” refers to a group of all females. All nouns in gendered languages — including people — are categorized as either masculine or feminine, and any adjectives associated with these words must reflect that gender.

That presents a problem for students who are gender-nonconforming, and, of course, for the speakers of the language in general.

Another reason why Jews should be prohibited from reproducing. (Also, no wonder I am a supposed Anglophile: at least "they" in English is not gendered.)

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One norm that can frustrate language learners and speakers is the dominance of the masculine form, which is used as the default or standard. For example, the masculine “todos,” meaning “everybody,” is used in Spanish to address a group of people regardless of their genders at events like conferences or in official speeches. And the presence of even one man in an otherwise female group tends to consign the gender to the masculine.

It merely reflects the attitudes of the traditional users of the language.

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Mx. Moffa highlights the “absurd” nature of assigning gender to inanimate objects. “Instead of calling it masculine and feminine, you can just pick other polarities: light and dark, full and empty, round and square. It doesn’t even really matter what it is,” he said.

Yet they chose to go with masculine and feminine. Why? (Answer: because they are obsessed with sexual dimorphism.)

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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2021, 08:30:28 pm »
Le Robert is on our side:

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/a-french-dictionary-added-a-gender-neutral-pronoun-opponents-say-its-too-woke/

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Le Robert, an authoritative reference book on the French language, created an entry for “iel” after its researchers had noted “an increasing usage” of the third-person pronoun in “a large body of texts drawn from various sources,” the dictionary’s director Charles Bimbenet explained in a Wednesday statement.
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The dictionary defines “iel,” which combines the words for “he” and “she,” as a third-person pronoun in singular form that could refer to a person of any gender. The word is labeled “rare,” as its use remains relatively low despite a surge in recent months, Bimbenet said. (“Iels” is the plural form of the nonbinary pronoun. The variations “Ielle” and ielles” are also included in Le Robert’s entry.)

The French establishment exhibits its cultural inferiority:

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But this week, several French politicians expressed strong opposition to formally adopting the nonbinary pronouns, bringing to the fore a long-standing battle over whether the French language, rigidly structured under masculine-feminine grammar rules, should be changed to better represent women and gender-nonconforming individuals.

French Minister of Education Jean-Michel Blanquer tweeted Wednesday that school-age children should not use Le Robert’s entry as a valid reference, adding that “inclusive writing is not the future of the French language.”

François Jolivet, a French parliament member from the ruling centrist party, similarly rejected the nonbinary pronouns, characterizing the acceptance of “iel” and its variations as akin to pushing a “woke” ideology.
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The then-prime minister of France, Eduard Philippe banned the use of gender-neutral French in all official government documents in 2017.

Also, as I have been saying elsewhere:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg7599/#msg7599

Western civilization promotes high sexual dimorphism (even when trying to be anti-sexist), and now more people are noticing this:

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2021/11/the-gender-gap-in-preferences.html

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In the more gender-equal countries, men have “more male” interests, and the women have “more female” interests.

Western countries claim to be the "more gender-equal countries". Yet the Western version of anti-sexism (a.k.a. feminism), while demanding imposed equality, at the same time encourages women to be proud of being women, so of course women will have more female interests. Anti-feminist Western men then react by becoming more proud of being men, so of course men will have more male interests. Anti-sexism should never have been about "gender equality", but should always have been about reducing sexual dimorphism from both ends.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2022, 08:15:26 am »
I think that we should all commit to using “it” from here on out when talking about people on the forums and the blog. It might sound weird at first, but all of the languages without gendered pronouns that I know of, use one word for he, she and it. I hate using “they” as a non-gendered pronoun, because it conflates the singular and plural, and it can get confusing sometimes

I don't have a problem with using 'they', it has always been my default word to use when talking about a person of unknown gender. For example, when talking about Players in boardgame rules, I would say that "Player 1 takes THEIR turn" rather than "Player 1 takes his/her turn" or "Player 1 takes its turn". This came naturally just out of convenience without even thinking in any way politically (other than not wanting to exclude female players - some game rules very irritatingly just say "his"...)
Conflating singular and plural is easily worked around by context (Germans for example use 'Sie' for both you and they, and worse still use 'sie' for she!). There could also be confusions using 'it', I would assume you were not talking about a person if you referred to an 'it'. Even if you disagree, using they/them is in agreement with more mainstream gender-neutral language and cannot be considered in any way insulting, whereas "it" can be.
I'm convinced that the issue people have with they/them being confusable with plurals is just backlash against pronoun-obsessed teens who insisted on being multiple genders and spirits simultaneously - there were probably very few of them but caricatured and reposted often enough to stick in the minds of anti-SJWs.
Still, this is a good idea and we should stick to using gender neutral language even when talking about people of a known sex/gender.
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