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Now they are learning to tie the threads together:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-replacement-theory-behind-buffalo-152511891.html

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How The White Replacement Theory Behind The Buffalo Shooting Also Fueled The January 6 Insurrection
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the insurrection wasn’t about election security. It was about a long-held white nationalist paranoia that their country is being “stolen” from them — which is laughable given that this nation was built on stolen land using stolen labor from stolen people.

However, the hearings won’t dig deep into how white replacement theory and white annihilation anxiety inflamed a violent mob to storm the Capitol the day Congress ratified the presidential election results. But it should.

The fear that white folks would someday lose the power of their majority has ignited a nationwide resistance against the “browning of America.” And it’s this same fear — not bogus claims of voter fraud — that’s motivating pro-insurrection “democracy deniers” to run for governor and secretary of state in key battleground states like Arizona and Pennsylvania. The MAGA crowd on January 6 — primed by white nationalist fear-mongering — heeded Rep. Mo Brooks’ (R-AL) call to violently do what it takes to “fight for America.”

So did 18-year-old Payton S. Gendron, who, according to reports, posted 180 pages referencing the “Great Replacement” to justify killing 10 Black people last month at a supermarket in Buffalo, NY. That shooting not only contextualizes the white replacement theory but a deeper motive that belies the January 6 insurrection.

White replacement ideology sits at the underbelly of White supremacy. It’s powerful enough to motivate ordinary people to commit mass murder and attempt to overturn a legal presidential election. Unfortunately, that’s nothing new to Black folks in this country.
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The so-called “Great Replacement” theory sprang from white anxiety around race and Black people, which began hundreds of years ago when plantation owners feared violent slave uprisings. The modern iteration of that fear, or white replacement theory, is the belief that people of color will replace white people and take over the country — especially when they become the majority in 2050, as predicted by the U.S. Census Bureau. When that happens, white supremacists fear their new minority status will subject them to punishment for centuries of racial oppression. They imagine their punishment would be the ultimate extinction of white people.

That would be a good thing, by the way (even though >500 years late).

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The bloodshed caused by white supremacy is this country’s putrid legacy — one that our leaders have ignored, excused and whitewashed for far too long. Ultra right-wing lawmakers have long been allowed to push white fear buttons with impunity. They’re using a 200-year-old playbook, and it’s working. It works because it’s allowed to work.

And the correct response is not to tell them the Replacement is not happening, but to tell them it is already much better than what they actually deserve for what they have done to the world.

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Re: True Left breakthrough: non-economic explanations
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2022, 08:31:17 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-crime-propel-europes-move-to-right-analysts-say-202748280.html

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At a glance, the two countries share relatively few commonalities. Sweden is a wealthy, cohesive welfare state, which over the past 90 years has typically been led by leftist coalition governments. By comparison, Italy’s economy, which is burdened by massive debt, is reeling. Costs of living are soaring, and over the past decade, its government has changed nearly every 18 months. But in both places, rising crime and misgivings about immigrants are prompting a political realignment.

In other words, it's not economics behind rightist popularity, and hence rightism will not be defeated by False Leftist platforms offering economic improvement. Leftist politicians need to stop trying to distract people with economics ASAP and argue directly against rightist talking points on ethical grounds. For example, we are pro-immigration not because immigration is economically beneficial (even though it may be), but because it is the only ethical position:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/debunking-rightist-anti-immigration-arguments/ (see excerpts below)

Continuing:

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Jimmie Akesson, the new leader of the Sweden Democrats, insists his party has shed its fascist leanings, though the party remains staunchly anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim and keeps pounding home its messaging linking foreign-born Swedes and crime.

We already have this covered!

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Another similarly common rightist argument that "migration by criminals will increase crime" is similarly faulty. Again, every immigrant is also an emigrant. The total number of criminals is unchanged. Only the location of crimes are changed.

(And again, what rightists really mean, of course, is that they prefer others whom they do not care about to be the victims of crime. This is tribalism.)

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The bigger issue for Meloni, however, may be the changing face and complexion of Italian citizens. The woman who promotes “God, homeland and family” frequently laments Italy’s low birth rate and fears the extinction of Italians and their replacement by immigrants from Africa, a conspiracy she has accused the government of the European Union of orchestrating. “The EU is complicit in uncontrolled immigration, the invasion of Europe and the project of ethnic replacement of European citizens,” she wrote on her website in February.

We have this covered too! Firstly, it is not "invasion":

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If State A invades State B, former taxpayers to State B will now be paying taxes to State A instead (ie. State B loses taxpayers; State A gains taxpayers). In contrast, if inhabitants of State A migrate to State B, these former taxpayers to State A who have migrated will now be paying taxes to State B instead (ie. State B gains taxpayers; State A loses taxpayers). Thus in fact immigration is the opposite of invasion.

Secondly:

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if it's OK for "whites" to live outside of Europe (as hundreds of millions currently do), it's OK for at least the same number of "non-whites" to live in Europe.

The only way for the left to win is to take the moral high ground on the issue:

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This pretty much highlights how it is flat-out logically impossible for WNs to win the ethical debate. If they go with the position that migration is wrong (which they need for criticizing migration by "non-whites"), then they cannot avoid the conclusion that "whites" wronged "non-whites" first, and hence have no authority to complain. The only logical way to avoid incriminating themselves is to go with the position that migration is not wrong, in which case they have no reason to complain. Either way they are screwed.

Their only recourse is to declare that it is OK when "whites" do it but not OK when "non-whites" do it ie. ingroup/outgroup double-standards a.k.a. "It's OK to be white!" In other words, to declare that they do not care about ethics.

not to attempt to distract attention from the issue (which has failed already).

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Re: True Left breakthrough: non-economic explanations
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2022, 10:28:48 pm »
Rome was fallen because of immigrants from "Northern Europe", and it ruined Rome's government and economy. That's the rightist argument to defend the "controlled borders." What about that?

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Re: True Left breakthrough: non-economic explanations
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2022, 12:01:28 am »
Ethics cannot be motivated by survivalism. We must unconditionally do what is ethical first, and only thereafter try to survive the (often dangerous) consequences of being ethical. The moment we start trying to survive first, we have already ceased to be ethical and hence do not even deserve to survive.





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https://us.yahoo.com/news/america-vanishing-trump-insist-were-115731851.html

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Their America Is Vanishing. Like Trump, They Insist They Were Cheated.

When Rep. Troy Nehls of Texas voted last year to reject Donald Trump’s electoral defeat, many of his constituents back home in Fort Bend County were thrilled.
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The county in recent years has become one of the nation’s most diverse, where the former white majority has fallen to just 30% of the population.
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white people in Fort Bend “did not like certain people coming here,” he said. “It’s race. They are old-school.”

A shrinking white share of the population is a hallmark of the congressional districts held by the House Republicans who voted to challenge Trump’s defeat, a New York Times analysis found — a pattern political scientists say shows how white fear of losing status shaped the movement to keep him in power.

The portion of white residents dropped about 35% more over the past three decades in those districts than in territory represented by other Republicans, the analysis found
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Many of the 139 objectors, including Nehls, said they were driven in part by the demands of their voters. “You sent me to Congress to fight for President Trump and election integrity,” Nehls wrote in a tweet on Jan. 5, 2021, “and that’s exactly what I am doing.” At a Republican caucus meeting a few days later, Rep. Bill Johnson, from an Ohio district stretching into Appalachia, told colleagues that his constituents would “go ballistic” with “raging fire” if he broke with Trump, according to a recording.
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Many of the objectors’ districts started with a significantly larger Black minority, or had a rapid increase in the Hispanic population, making the decline in the white population more pronounced.

Of the 12 Republican-held districts that swung to minority white — almost all in California and Texas — 10 were represented by objectors. The most significant drops occurred in the Dallas-Fort Worth suburbs and California desert towns, where the white percentage fell by more than one-third.
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Texas is one of six states where the white population is now outnumbered by Black, Hispanic and Asian residents. Nehls’ district, which includes most of Fort Bend County, is part of the reason: It swung from nearly 70% to less than 40% white over the past three decades.

But changing demographics in many places may not yet be reflected at the polls, because of a larger white share of the voting-age population and higher turnout levels. Exit polls show that white Texans still made up 60% of the state’s voters in 2020.

The greater Houston area is the center of the state’s transformation and also a hub of the “stop the steal” movement. True the Vote, the organization behind some of the loudest accusations of voter fraud, was founded 12 years ago by a Fort Bend resident who claimed that a nonprofit was falsely registering voters in Black and Hispanic neighborhoods in Houston. A cluster of congressmen who actively promoted Trump’s election denial come from the area. Next month, another Republican who calls the election stolen is expected to replace an incumbent who accepted the Biden victory and did not seek reelection.
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Some Fort Bend Democrats said they saw an obvious connection between the declining white share of the population and the refusal by Nehls and his supporters to accept Trump’s defeat.

“It is a power grab by white Republicans,”
said K.P. George, a Democrat born in India who was elected in 2018 as the county’s top executive, the first nonwhite person to hold the office.

Nehls, a veteran of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, served as the county sheriff for eight years before running for Congress in 2020. His seat appears safe this year because the Republican-controlled state Legislature redrew the boundaries of his district to include more predominantly white and solidly Republican terrain outside Fort Bend County. Whites now make up a majority of the eligible voters in the district.

Nehls said election fraud was the only thing that could stop “the greatest leader of my lifetime” from returning to the Oval Office in 2024.

“In a fair election, you can’t beat Donald Trump!” Nehls said, posing for photographs in front of a life-size photo of the former president.

More about Nehls:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Nehls

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On January 7, 2021, Nehls joined 121 other Republican members of Congress in objecting to counting certain electoral votes in the 2020 presidential election.[21] On January 13, 2021, he voted against the second impeachment of President Donald Trump.
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In the wake of the FBI search of presidential records at Mar-a-Lago in 2022, Nehls announced his support for Donald Trump for president in 2024 and denounced the FBI and Department of Justice as "corrupt".[27]

Nehls doubled down on his support for Trump by publishing a book in 2022 titled The Big Fraud,[28] in which he falsely writes that Democrats rigged the 2020 presidential election.[29]

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Re: True Left breakthrough: non-economic explanations
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2022, 10:23:52 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/watching-white-anxiety-turn-violent-085752555.html

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We’re Watching White Anxiety Turn Into Violent Rage

It is this simple. No economic dressup required.

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the whitelash that had been brewing since the advent of birtherism and the Tea Party would soon manifest itself in an upending of all that “post-racial” hope. That’s when Republicans nominated the anti-Obama—a man who ramped up racial anxieties rather than speaking to them with compassion and nuance—Donald J. Trump.

Trump is (and always has been) a caricature of white privilege and white resentment. A silver spoon heir to a multimillionaire, whose failures in business were repeatedly bailed out by Daddy, he somehow conned people into buying his image as the savior of poor white America. He rebuffed political norms and embraced the “good old days” of unapologetic racism, misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, and Islamophobia—all while embracing white nationalism and fetishizing the American flag.

If it were about economics, the part in bold would be impossible. It happened because economics is not what this is about.

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But this didn’t start with Trump.

Many white Americans have been fed a very purposeful lie that began in kindergarten, one that instilled a belief in their excellence and benevolence.

They learned from the time that they could read and write that white people discovered this country and turned it into something the world bowed to and held up as a beacon.

From art to music to innovation, they were fed a steady diet of their heroes. Even former slave owners were given the benefit of the doubt to the “thinking of their time,” but were otherwise characterized as good people—glossing over the enslavement and torture of other human beings they deemed as chattel to build “their nation” from scratch. They were told wonderful stories of Thanksgiving, instead of the massacres and genocide of an entire Indigenous population at the hands of their ancestors. They were fed stories of love affairs between slave owners like Thomas Jefferson and his enslaved captive, Sally Hemings, but not the reality of ****, abuse, and human property. They were taught about the innovators of government, like Robert Moses, but not his rampant racism that was the basis for their urban planning—the creation of highways that purposefully drove a stake through the heart of Black communities.

These lies are just the tips of the melting iceberg of white exceptionalism. And it’s the desperate need for white dominance and power—the “we must fight like hell to take our country back” mentality—that is steadily becoming a violent reality.
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In less than two years, we’ve witnessed an insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a conspiracy to kidnap a Democratic governor, and a likely assassination attempt on the Speaker of the House and her family.
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the myth of white greatness is a threat to us all.

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Re: True Left breakthrough: non-economic explanations
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2022, 08:02:18 pm »
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11385903/Ex-CIA-staffer-claims-Christian-white-men-primed-start-civil-war-America.html

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California professor and ex-CIA staffer claims that 'Christian, white men' are primed to start a civil war in America because they 'were once dominant and are in decline' - and blames the right for spike in violent extremism
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Sreenivasan asked Walter - who said she studied foreign nations on the brink of civil war for the CIA - how far off a war within the US could be.

Walter then went on to explain the past '100 years' showed that civil wars are typically started along divided religious and ethnic lines, when a previously dominant group begins to see their position wane.

She then went on to say that 'white men' who 'also tended to be Christian,' were beginning to see such a decline in their position in the US, and that they had 'almost exclusively' been the perpetrators of violent extremism in the country since 2008.
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And again, if you look at the history of the United States, the group that had been dominant since the very inception of our country were white men. They also tended to be Christian, and they are losing that position.'

She then said that white Christian men's notion that they are the 'true identity' of the nation, and a fear over losing that ownership, was driving the nation towards violent war. 

'You see a subset of this population becoming increasingly resentful, angry, and they truly feel that this is their country,' she said. 'And that they're being patriots by saving what they believe is the true identity of this country and they're willing to use violence to do it.'

Therefore there is no way to change their mind. So if there is no way to change their mind, and it is morally unacceptable to let them win, what is the only option left?