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Trump a Fascist?
« on: August 30, 2020, 01:55:55 pm »
Expert compares Trump's politics to fascism
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Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley explains why he claims President Donald Trump's politics are akin to fascism, a political movement based around a leader.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4MTns3MyxQ

Fascism is about national unity, Trump and rightists are about national division. Trump is as divisive a leader as one can get, Trump cannot be fascist.

(I would hope most political movements revolve around a leader, that is a silly statement to make...).

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Mussolini's Rise to Power

He argued that only a strong leader could unite the people to overcome Italy's postwar mass unemployment, chaotic political party conflicts, and strikes by socialists and communists. In 1919, Mussolini organized his fascist movement in the northern city of Milan.
https://www.crf-usa.org/bill-of-rights-in-action/bria-25-4-mussolini-and-the-rise-of-fascism.html

Trump and his supporters have increased 'chaotic party conflicts' with their ideology, not decreased them.

Trump and his supporters are tribalists, not fascists!

Furthermore, National Socialism and Fascism are two very different political ideologies.

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The rich ruling class has used tribalism, a primitive caveman instinct, to their advantage since the beginning of time. They use it to divide and conquer us. They drive wedges between us peasants and make us fight each other, so we won’t rise up against our rulers and fight them.

You can observe the same old trick everywhere in America today: Red states and blue states are fighting. Christians and Muslims are fighting. Men and women are fighting. Baby Boomers and Millennials are fighting. Black people and white people are fighting.

That doesn’t just happen all by itself. There are always voices instigating these fights. — Oliver Markus Malloy, Make Racism Wrong Again

What Malloy doesn't realize of course is that the 'ruling class' are tribalists themselves!

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We live in this bubble of ignorance. Most people know nothing about history, or the historical context of the traditions they still follow today. People do things without knowing why they're doing them. — Oliver Markus Malloy

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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2020, 03:54:36 pm »
Noam Chomsky Says Trump is WORSE Than Hitler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6mAf_uPy-o

Noam Chomsky clearly understands nothing about Hitler, should we be surprised considering Chomsky is Jewish himself? Or, is Chomsky being intentionally deceptive?

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We live in this bubble of ignorance. Most people know nothing about history, or the historical context of the traditions they still follow today. People do things without knowing why they're doing them. — Oliver Markus Malloy

Consequently, this is why I do not like most people all that much....


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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2020, 12:53:39 am »
If you look at the comments in some of the conservative videos, quite a few of them compare the BLM protestors to Nazis or Brown Shirts. Do THEY understand what Hitler was all about?

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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2020, 12:30:45 pm »
If you look at the comments in some of the conservative videos, quite a few of them compare the BLM protestors to Nazis or Brown Shirts. Do THEY understand what Hitler was all about?

Are you aware rightists and leftist forces shot it out in the streets of Germany after WWI? Some of the similarities between Germany post WWI and the U.S. of today are uncanny. Some could even argue we are heading for a Wiemar Republic 2.0 in the United States present day. Although, I do not know if I agree fully with that assessment considering Democratic Socialism doesn't have a strong foot hold in the U.S. as it did the Wiemar Republic. BLM calls for unity among all anti-racists and leftists, much like the NSDAP called for unity among leftist forces in the face of Jewish racism. BLM confronts Jewish racism just as the NSDAP did, the NSDAP being much better at it though obviously. BLM does not have a well thought out political ideology behind it either, as far as I can tell.

The slogan of the NSDAP may as well have been: "German Lives Matter". So, there is a parallel there as well.

The only thing that is missing in the U.S. present day unfortunately are true revolutionary socialists....






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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2020, 03:23:09 pm »
It was a rhetorical question. The BLM critics probably don't know how correct they are making that comparison.

If only BLM supporters would not call the opposition Nazis. Maybe a slur for an identitarian?

Did the Brown Shirts and Hitler Youth destroy businesses indiscriminately?

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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2020, 08:26:42 pm »
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Maybe a slur for an identitarian?

I think the word racists works fine. The sooner this battle becomes a battle between racist vs. anti-racists the better it will be for anti-racists.

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Did the Brown Shirts and Hitler Youth destroy businesses indiscriminately?

During Kristallnacht the SA targeted Jewish stores and synagogues for destruction against the wishes of Hitler. I believe there is a speech out there that Hitler gave just before Kristallnacht in-which he states how "a single hair on a Jews head should not be harmed", even after Judea declared war on Germany. Hitler was shocked by Kristallnacht and in private spoke on how Jews would use it against him. (I cannot recall where I read that at the moment).
German anger was understandable in that regard though some would argue considering how Jews boycotted German businesses. Many Germans already held a deep rooted grudge against Jews because of the general strike that was created by Marxists in Germany near the end of WWI, a war where Germany looked like it was going to be the sole victor over England, France, and Russia. The general strike cost Germany the war ultimately. Many Germans viewed the general strike as a "stab in the back" by Jews toward Germany, Germany having historically been one of the only nations where Jews were truly protected by the state.

So, to answer your question, no, not really. Germans were very specific on which businesses they targeted for destruction and that work was mostly carried out by the SA against Hitler's will some would argue.


I disagree with targeting small businesses indiscriminately also. However, how do we know that some of the destruction being done to small business present day in the U.S. is not the result of provocateurs infiltrating groups like the BLM?

Why not target the big corporations who are known to support racist causes, like Home Depot for example? Isn't the CEO of Home Depot a Trump supporter? I don't understand this either. I could understand targeting specific small business who are known to support racists, but that doesn't seem to be what is happening either....?



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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2020, 09:18:09 pm »
I think the word racists works fine.

Well said. Instead of arduously trying to convince leftists who haven't yet seen the light that National Socialism is good and Fascism is at least not bad, for the time being it's sufficient to convince them to label our enemies racists and nothing else. The notion that "you don't have to be a Nazi to be racist" already seems to be quite widespread among the Woke, so people who insist on calling them "Nazis" or "Fascists" can at least be called out for diluting the issue.
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2020, 08:34:44 pm »
In Portland, they're still targeting the Federal building which practically a fortress. There's a small FED branch several blocks away which would be an easy ransack. Hopefully, it would motivate others to target the main regional branches.

Heck downtown is full of bank and insurance buildings; as well as a bunch of Starbucks.

Alex Jones did stories on agent provacateurs about 10 years ago. I remember protestors catching a masked guy with a rock and telling him to put it down. I forget what the protest was about.
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2020, 11:23:18 pm »
Only False Leftists would see similarities between Trump supporters and Muslims:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8687505/Rep-Ilhan-Omar-accuses-MSNBC-host-Joy-Reid-Islamophobia.html

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Rep. Ilhan Omar accuses MSNBC host Joy Reid of 'Islamophobia' after she compared 'radicalized' Donald Trump supporters to 'the way Muslims act'

It is up to True Leftists to correct them:






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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2021, 09:35:44 am »
Correct me if i'm wrong. but did jews not live under Mussolini

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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2021, 02:40:26 pm »
Pompeo Says He's Fascist Without Saying He's Fascist
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Mike Pompeo cries America should not be woke and multicultural.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EC2sH1W7J0

False-leftists often confuse multi-culturalism with multi-ethnic, they are not the same. You can have a multi-ethnic society and still have a mono-culture. Multi-culturalism just further divides a country. Division is tribalism. Fascism is unity. False-leftists do not understand fascism, socialism, national socialism, nationalism, or tribalism. What do false-leftists actually understand, other than the fact that they are supposedly leftists?

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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2021, 11:09:56 pm »
Authentic fascism from the original fascists:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPuEO0VAh04

In contrast, rightists actually value multiculturalism and diversity, but only among "white" cultures:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2021/01/27/saving-the-white-race-the-problem-and-solutions-part-3-of-3/

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An important consideration for White preservation is that the White race is not a single homogeneous population, but a group of populations with great variety and diversity within the group yet distinct genotypically and phenotypically from the populations outside the group. A sufficient solution for White racial preservation should also preserve that sub-racial population diversity.

This is the real double-standard. "White" immigrants who do not assimilate are praised for enriching the host country with their cultural distinctiveness (e.g. I can't count the number of times I have seen Melania's accent has been praised by (mostly male) rightists!), whereas "non-white" immigrants who do not assimilate are accused of polluting the host country with their "Third World ways" (have you ever seen a rightist praising Omar's accent?).

False Leftists cannot tell the difference between a Roman and a rightist.
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2021, 07:00:22 pm »
From the beginning of US history, the government has abounded with authentic (non-racist) fascist symbolism. Anyone who spends a single millisecond contemplating the pro-unity symbolism of the fasces can recognize Trump is antithetical to fascism.

https://authenticamericandream.blogspot.com/2018/06/no-fascist-usa-counterproductive.html

Nancy Pelosi even worse a fascist symbol during Trump's first impeachment (but, strangely, not during his second).



If the photo was zoomed out more, you would see her standing between two giant fasces.



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Re: Trump a Fascist?
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2021, 11:43:34 am »
Love this meme you posted on your article:


This meme applies to at the least 95% of Americans I believe....