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antihellenistic

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Re: Academic decolonization
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2022, 07:52:45 pm »
Considering people are "idi*t" were also westerners behaviour. Seeing that the ancient world like Islamic empires consider people good or bad based on their character, not by their intelligence. And the word "idi*t" were not found on the world until the westerners from European Greece found it. See this information :

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The word "idi*t" comes from the Greek noun ἰδιώτης idiōtēs 'a private person, individual' (as opposed to the state), 'a private citizen' (as opposed to someone with a political office), 'a common man', 'a person lacking professional skill, layman', later 'unskilled', 'ignorant', derived from the adjective ἴδιος idios 'personal' (not public, not shared).[3][4

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot#Etymology

Another linguistic institution website's explanation about the word "idi*t". See this written content below :

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Idi*t Has Greek Roots

The Greek adjective idios means “one’s own” or “private.” The derivative noun idiōtēs means “private person.” A Greek idiōtēs was a person who was not in the public eye, who held no public office. From this came the sense “common man,” and later “ignorant person”—a natural extension, for the common people of ancient Greece were not, in general, particularly learned. The English idiot originally meant “ignorant person,” but the more usual reference now is to a person who lacks basic intelligence or common sense rather than education.

Source : https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idiot

If we use the word "idi*t", then the "white" colonialist and Israelis are not "idi*t" people, seeing that they intelligent enough to make advanced weaponry, education, and machinery to oppress the rest of the world. And the "idi*t" people are the colonized and oppressed people like us.

Being kind is more important rather than being "intelligent"

Make Greece Ottoman Again
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Re: Truth =/= knowledge
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2022, 08:22:40 pm »
I disagree. The problem is not with using the word "idiot", but with how we define the word. You are the one agreeing with the Western definition:

"If we use the word "idi*t", then the "white" colonialist and Israelis are not "idi*t" people, seeing that they intelligent enough to make advanced weaponry, education, and machinery to oppress the rest of the world."

What you just described (in bold) is the idiotic behaviour. Going back to the etymology:

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private person

Making advanced weaponry/education/machinery does not improve the world overall (quite the contrary), but merely allows those possessing these things to gain a temporal advantage over those who do not yet possess it. This is behaviour with private (ie. selfish) interests in mind, thus idiocy.

Again, go back to the air conditioner analogy:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg14085/#msg14085

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg14831/#msg14831

Only an idiot would, wanting cooler air, install something which further heats the air, but merely pumps it outside the room. This is the epitome of private thinking, and thus of idiocy.

"And the "idi*t" people are the colonized and oppressed people like us."

No. If we are the ones receiving the hot air from the air conditioner, we are not necessarily idiots. We would only be idiots if we responded by installing another air conditioner pumping in the opposite direction to compete against the initial air conditioner (consequently heating the air even more). In contrast, if we responded by breaking into the idiot's room to destroy the initial air conditioner and kill the idiot, we would be anti-idiots.

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Re: Truth =/= knowledge
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2022, 08:27:26 pm »
Considering that always being first at knowledge and performance was good were not found on the world. But soon became the world's international behaviour because the westerners found it. See this content below about the competition activity named "Olympiad" :

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An olympiad (Greek: Ὀλυμπιάς, Olympiás) is a period of four years, particularly those associated with the ancient and modern Olympic Games.

Although the ancient Olympics were established during Greece's Archaic Era, it was not until Hippias that a consistent list was established and not until Ephorus in the Hellenistic period that the first recorded Olympic contest was used as a calendar epoch. Ancient authors agreed that other Olympics had been held before the race won by Coroebus but disagreed on how many; the convention was established to place Coroebus's victory at a time equivalent to the summer of 776 bc in the Gregorian calendar and to treat it as Year 1 of Olympiad 1. Olympiad 2 began with the next games in the summer of 772 bc.

Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympiad#Ancient_Olympics

That activity of being the first on anything is representation of Western Achillean doctrine. For what being first if we not concern to the society. The result is liberalism economic and way of life. And also social imbalance which resulting hostility between individuals and communities.


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Re: Truth =/= knowledge
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2022, 08:30:19 pm »
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Making advanced weaponry/education/machinery does not improve the world overall (quite the contrary), but merely allows those possessing these things to gain a temporal advantage over those who do not yet possess it. This is behaviour with private (ie. selfish) interests in mind, thus idiocy.

But European colonialism and advanced unnecessary innovation was a democratic (collective) thinking, so they not behave based on individual interest, what about that?

The inventors always justify their recently created materials with the pretext that the majority need something new and better. So the innovation and another intelligent activity is also result of democracy
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Re: Truth =/= knowledge
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2022, 08:40:41 pm »
"But European colonialism and advanced unnecessary innovation was a democratic (collective) thinking, so they not behave based on individual interest, what about that?"

Private interests =/= individual interests. A tribe/demos is a collective concerned with private thinking.

We support individualism. Absolute monarchism is individualism. It is far easier to get an individual to think non-privately than to get a majority to do so.

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