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Re: War
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2022, 08:23:12 pm »
Always France and Russia! Somethings just never change! These types of French attitudes are exactly why Hitler invaded France:

Macron says EU is not at war with Russia, warns against ‘humiliating’ Putin
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Europe must learn from its past mistakes and make sure no side is humiliated when Russia and Ukraine negotiate for peace, France’s president said on Europe Day (9 May) in Strasbourg.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/macron-says-eu-is-not-at-war-with-russia-warns-against-humiliating-putin/

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2022, 11:30:13 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/finance/news/russia-driven-food-shortage-means-162100144.html

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Russia-driven food shortage means cereal and corn will start running out in 2023, UN warns. ‘The world faces the risk of food shortages’
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Around 25 million tons of various staple grains are currently sitting in storage units in large port cities such as Odesa, waiting to be shipped to international markets, but they are unable to leave Ukraine because of an ongoing Russian blockade in the Black Sea.

On a recent visit to Odesa, the president of the European Council, Charles Michel, tweeted that he saw “silos full of grain, wheat and corn ready for export. This badly needed food is stranded because of the Russian war and blockade of Black Sea ports.”

On Thursday, Beasley implored Russian officials to lift the blockade at all costs to avert a global food shortage.

“If you have any heart at all for the rest of the world, regardless of how you feel about Ukraine, you need to open up those ports," he told CNN in statements directed at Russian President Vladimir Putin.

An indefinite blockade of Ukrainian ports would affect every country in the world, but some are more in need of food imports than others, and more at risk of a catastrophic food shortage.

Speaking at the Munich Security Conference on Friday, Beasley warned that several countries in North and East Africa and the Middle East were poised to face “tremendous food security issues” in the near future due to the Ukraine war.

Several countries—including Tanzania, Uganda, Sudan, and Cameroon—relied on Ukraine and Russia for at least half of their wheat imports before the war, according to the international NGO Human Rights Watch. Should food products remain stuck in Ukraine, these countries will be hit by food shortages first and hardest.

This should be more than enough reason for NATO troops to invade the Black Sea to destroy the Russian blockade ASAP.

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Re: War
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2022, 03:01:25 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/western-advocates-appeasement-crash-course-192100318.html

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A number of common misconceptions need to be addressed and debunked if the West wishes to get Russia right.

One key problem when dealing with Putin is the Western fear of escalation. The Russian dictator is well aware of this and always escalates until he has won or been defeated. The West must therefore not seek to avoid escalation, but should demonstrate a readiness to escalate more and faster.
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Western fears of “provoking Putin” are particularly unhelpful.
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Putin has started an unprovoked and unjustified war, but it is the West that must not provoke him? Such thinking is essentially a call to allow a Russian victory and accept Ukrainian defeat. Instead, the word “provocation” should be retired from the Western discussion about Putin.

A similarly gentlemanly idea is the notion that the West must allow Putin to save face. Really? Putin is no gentleman. He wages wars of aggression and ruthlessly orders the destruction of entire cities. The West cannot compromise over crimes against humanity on this scale. On the contrary, Putin must be defeated. The only language he understands is the language of overwhelming strength.
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Putin has also demonstrated conclusively that his word has no value and he feels under no obligation to keep any of his promises. For decades, Putin has routinely violated international agreement after agreement while publicly defending his conduct with bare-faced lies and obviously implausible denials. Why bother to conclude another worthless agreement with this lawless character?
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When advocates of appeasement run out of other arguments, they tend to call for an immediate ceasefire. While seemingly sensible, these appeals ignore Russia’s long record of treating ceasefire agreements as opportunities to regroup and prepare for new attacks.
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Peaceniks often declare that the West must avoid painting Putin into a corner. Similarly, they warn against destabilizing Russia, but it is entirely irrational to position Putin as a source of stability when he is clearly the main destabilizing factor in both Europe and Russia itself.
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If a compromise peace allows Putin to hold on to his latest territorial gains in Ukraine, he will use any pause in hostilities to prepare for the next stage in his campaign to subjugate the rest of the country. If he wins the war, Russian aggression will inevitably expand beyond the borders of Ukraine.

Years of Western wishful thinking and concessions to the Kremlin have failed to prevent Putin’s emergence as the greatest threat to world peace. It is now time to recognize the reality of modern Russia and belatedly abandon the path of appeasement.

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Re: War
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2022, 11:30:11 am »
Always France and Russia! Somethings just never change! These types of French attitudes are exactly why Hitler invaded France:

Macron says EU is not at war with Russia, warns against ‘humiliating’ Putin
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Europe must learn from its past mistakes and make sure no side is humiliated when Russia and Ukraine negotiate for peace, France’s president said on Europe Day (9 May) in Strasbourg.
https://www.euractiv.com/section/global-europe/news/macron-says-eu-is-not-at-war-with-russia-warns-against-humiliating-putin/

This post reminds me of this.

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On May 16, 1935, the Czechoslovak–Soviet Treaty of Alliance was signed after the Soviet treaty with France, which was Czechoslovakia's main ally.

Adolf Hitler justified the remilitarisation of the Rhineland by the ratification of the Franco-Soviet Pact by the French Parliament and claimed that he felt threatened by it. David Lloyd George, a pro-German member of the British House of Commons, stated in that body that Hitler's actions in the wake of the pact had been fully justified to protect his country and that he would have been a traitor to Germany if he had failed to act.[3]

The Franco-Soviet Pact's military provisions were practically useless because of their multiple conditions, such as the requirement for Britain and Italy to approve any action. Their effectiveness was undermined even further by the French government's insistent refusal to accept a military convention stipulating how both armies would co-ordinate their actions in the event of a war against Germany. The result was a symbolic pact of friendship and mutual assistance that had little consequence other than raising the prestige of both parties. However, after 1936, the French lost interest, and all parties in Europe realised that the pact was a dead letter. By 1938, the appeasement policies implemented by British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain and French Prime Minister Édouard Daladier ended collective security and further encouraged German aggression.[4] The German Anschluss of Austria in 1938 and Munich Agreement, which led to the dismemberment of Czechoslovakia in 1938 and 1939, demonstrated the impossibility of establishing a collective security system in Europe,[5] a policy advocated by Litvinov.[6][7] That and the reluctance of the British and the French governments to sign a full-scale anti-German political and military alliance with the Soviets[8] led to the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact between the Soviet Union and Germany in late August 1939,[9] which indicated the Soviet Union's decisive break with France by becoming an economic ally of Germany.[10]
When in doubt, use the 16 Words: 'We must Engineer the Destruction of Western Civilization and Tribalism, and Unite All Races Through Nobility.'

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Re: Climate refugees
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2022, 05:15:33 pm »
US accuses Russia of triggering global food crisis
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The US will give Ukraine an additional $215 million in emergency food assistance to help the country battle the humanitarian crisis brought on by Russia's invasion, Secretary of State Antony Blinken announced, as he called on other countries to swiftly act in order to tackle the growing global food crisis. #CNN #News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr4zmq0KLlk

Even if the war ended soon it will take Ukraine's agriculture years to recover...

U.N. cites Ukraine war in grain shortage
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Russia's war on Ukraine has disrupted the world's food supply. After the Russian military targeted a grain elevator in the city of Dnipro and blockaded Ukrainian sea transit routes, a halt on grain exports from the region has affected more than a billion people. Imtiaz Tyab has more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnDWACCTjys

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It is now a battle for the worlds food supply.

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Re: War
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2022, 08:25:20 pm »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-must-destroy-elon-musks-172946213.html

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China needs a “hard kill” weapon to destroy Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites, a state university with close links to the country’s communist regime has said.

Researchers from the Beijing Institute of Tracking and Telecommunications Technology called Starlink a threat to China’s national security because of its “huge potential for military applications”.

Why not go after the source? Weapons able to "hard kill" Musk himself already exist. Just use those!



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Re: War
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2022, 08:04:46 pm »
This would be a dream come true if it happens:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chechen-leader-staunch-putin-ally-threatens-poland-over-support-for-ukraine-130655904.html

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LONDON — Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, a staunch ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, threatened to attack Poland over its support for Ukraine.

Speaking in a video that was posted to social media on Wednesday, the warlord warned that Poland had “better take back” the weapons it supplied to its neighbor.

“The issue of Ukraine is closed,” said Kadyrov, via a translation from a BBC reporter. “I’m interested in Poland. Poland, what is it trying to achieve?”

He added: “After Ukraine, if we’re given the command, in six seconds we’ll show you what we’re capable of. You should better take back your weapons and your mercenaries and beg official forgiveness for what you did to our ambassador.”

Can anyone figure out a way to set it off?



See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/what-was-prussia/msg11864/#msg11864

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Re: War
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2022, 08:36:53 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/food-crisis-looming-milley-says-122719182.html

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LONDON ― Amid mounting calls to break Russia’s blockade of Ukraine’s Black Sea ports for grain exports, America’s top military officer said that to do so militarily would amount to a “high risk military operation.”

For those subject to starvation, it is higher risk to do nothing about the blockade.

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Right now, the sea lanes are blocked by mines and the Russian navy. In order to open up those sea lanes would require a very significant military effort,” Milley said. If policymakers opted for it, “it would be a high-risk military operation that would require significant levels of effort.”

Just do it! Imagine if you were the one starving!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/far-ukraine-food-prices-hunger-115155948.html

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Another 18 million people are facing severe hunger in the Sahel, the part of Africa just below the Sahara Desert, where farmers are enduring their worst agricultural production in more than a decade. The U.N. World Food Program says food shortages could worsen when the lean season arrives in late summer.

“Acute hunger is soaring to unprecedented levels, and the global situation just keeps on getting worse. Conflict, the climate crisis, COVID-19 and surging food and fuel costs have created a perfect storm — and now we’ve got the war in Ukraine piling catastrophe on top of catastrophe,” WFP Executive Director David Beasley warned earlier this month.

Even the cost of therapeutic food for malnourished children could rise 16% over the next six months because of the war in Ukraine and disruptions related to the pandemic, UNICEF says.

African countries imported 44% of their wheat from Russia and Ukraine between 2018 and 2020, according to U.N. figures. The African Development Bank is already reporting a 45% increase in wheat prices on the continent, making everything from couscous in Mauritania to the fried doughnuts sold in Congo more expensive for customers.

“Africa has no control over production or logistics chains and is totally at the mercy of the situation,” said Senegalese President Macky Sall, the African Union chairman, who has said he will travel to Russia and Ukraine to discuss the price woes.
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Re: War
« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2022, 02:19:57 am »
Please let this be true:

https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/china-russian-border-drills

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The Chinese Government has been running war drills on its far north-eastern border, raising expert concerns the superpower could be considering a push into Russian territory with Moscow focused on its invasion of Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpBquLM9tCQ

Previous discussion:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg1207/?topicseen#msg1207

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099

(If this does happen, all the US would have to do is side with China's territorial claims and our long-hoped-for US-China alliance will be forged. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/ )

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Re: War
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2022, 09:02:12 pm »
What can we do to maximize the chances of this actually happening?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/foreign-ministry-russia-threatens-poland-131547257.html

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The Foreign Ministry of Russia Threatens Poland with Nuclear Strike

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Re: War
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2022, 08:41:01 pm »
Let us hope it escalates:




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Re: War
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2022, 11:20:55 pm »
In recent comments, there is more support for invasion into Russia, which is of course what I have been recommending since February:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scenes-horror-putin-hits-mall-151404362.html

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You have to put Russia on the defense. Go after them on their own turf.

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It's time Russia start defending an invasion of their own country.

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I didn't think that Ukraine should launch rockets into Russia - now I fully support it.  It's time the Russians got a taste of what they're handing out.

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I think a missile into Moscow for every missile they fire at a civilian target may change things up a lot. Just keep aiming them at the Kremlin.

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Me Too!!! Time to take the war to them!!!!

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If I was Ukraine, I'd be hitting nearby Russian cities water treatment facilities. with drones.  No water means citizens must leave and become refugees. Clogs the roads and makes reinforcements difficult.

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It's time we give the Ukraine some long range missles so they can hit the Kremlin and other military installations inside Russia It's time they take the war to them

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I now support Ukraine launching missiles into Russia...

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Since nothing is stopping Russia, time for Ukraine to bomb Moscow!

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Give Ukraine the long-range missiles and the ability to start hitting some Russian cities. I can't understand how the civilized world can sit back and let this continue to go on.

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Re: War
« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2022, 10:36:04 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-precious-key-invading-more-160046009.html

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“As Putin continues his war in Ukraine, the United States must be prepared to address the challenges he’s created in the immediate and long term for European and U.S. security,” Shaheen told The Daily Beast. “That is precisely what our legislation seeks to do by looking at a critical geopolitical region: the Black Sea.”
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Focusing on the Black Sea region is necessary to cut Putin off at the source, Shaheen told The Daily Beast.

“Control over access to the Black Sea is fundamental to his delusional dream of building a Russian empire and the United States cannot allow that to happen,” she said.
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It’s not just about the prospect of future Russian attacks. Putin’s already leveraging the Black Sea to his advantage, holding hostage grain and wheat exports through Ukraine’s Black Sea ports, which could cause famine in Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia, and beyond, as the International Rescue Committee has warned.

The United States hasn’t had a comprehensive strategy towards the Black Sea region, and Russia’s aggression shows we need to step it up, Bill Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, told The Daily Beast.
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The strategy would include plans to increase NATO capabilities in the region, including land and air forces, and military assistance specifically to Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, and Georgia. The strategy would also include schemes to improve coordination with NATO forces, better intelligence operations and systems to track Russian ops in the region, and help defending against hybrid warfare—including plans to support more independent media to counter Russian influence operations.



Why not capture at least enough territory from Russian control so as to cut off Russian land access to the Black Sea altogether? None of the Black Sea coast originally belonged to Russia anyway:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostov-on-Don#History

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It was the site of Tanais, an ancient Greek colony, Fort Tana under the Genoese, and Fort Azak in the time of the Ottoman Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiysk#History

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From 1722, the bay was controlled by an Ottoman fortress (qale) named Sujuk (also transliterated Sudzhuk, Sudschuk and Soğucak).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochi#History

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the current location of the city of Sochi (Ş̂açə) known as Ubykhia was part of historical Circassia, and was controlled by the native people of the local mountaineer clans of the north-west Caucasus, nominally under the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire

MAKE AZAK, SUJUK, UBYKHIA (AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN) OTTOMAN AGAIN!
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Re: War
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2022, 11:44:06 am »
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099

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The obvious move is to wait until all the reinforcements are inside Ukraine, and then open up multiple new fronts of war on Russian territory itself!

Finally someone understands!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-faces-second-war-front-133842667.html

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Putin faces second war front as Chechens threaten new offensive in Russia
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"We know the enemy’s positions, where Russian military bases are," spokesman for the Sheikh Mansur Battalion, Islam Belokiev, said in a video message obtained by Fox News Digital this week while announcing a plan to once again fight for Chechen independence.  "We have divided the Chechen Republic of Icheriya into three fronts and 16 sectors."
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At least two volunteer Chechen battalions, including veteran soldiers from both the first and second Chechen wars, have taken up arms against Russia in Ukraine, including the Sheikh Mansur Battalion and the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion.

Both groups have been vocal in denouncing the leader of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, who was appointed to the post in 2007 by Putin and has brutally backed his war efforts against Kyiv.
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"The possibility of them taking advantage of Putin’s forces being tied up in Ukraine to assert their independence is very plausible," she explained.

It is unclear if the Chechen volunteer forces are strategizing with Kyiv by creating a second front, but Koffler noted that even if a second front is not fully launched in Chechnya it could still strain Putin’s forces.

It would "at least make Putin and the Russians believe that they will have to divert their attention and take eyes off Ukraine, so Ukrainians could launch a counter-offensive," she said. "That’s very clever."

If two fronts are better than one, then three would be even better than two, and four would be better still, and so on! Who else wants to join in? Now is the time!