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Re: War
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2022, 03:01:25 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/western-advocates-appeasement-crash-course-192100318.html

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A number of common misconceptions need to be addressed and debunked if the West wishes to get Russia right.

One key problem when dealing with Putin is the Western fear of escalation. The Russian dictator is well aware of this and always escalates until he has won or been defeated. The West must therefore not seek to avoid escalation, but should demonstrate a readiness to escalate more and faster.
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Western fears of “provoking Putin” are particularly unhelpful.
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Putin has started an unprovoked and unjustified war, but it is the West that must not provoke him? Such thinking is essentially a call to allow a Russian victory and accept Ukrainian defeat. Instead, the word “provocation” should be retired from the Western discussion about Putin.

A similarly gentlemanly idea is the notion that the West must allow Putin to save face. Really? Putin is no gentleman. He wages wars of aggression and ruthlessly orders the destruction of entire cities. The West cannot compromise over crimes against humanity on this scale. On the contrary, Putin must be defeated. The only language he understands is the language of overwhelming strength.
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Putin has also demonstrated conclusively that his word has no value and he feels under no obligation to keep any of his promises. For decades, Putin has routinely violated international agreement after agreement while publicly defending his conduct with bare-faced lies and obviously implausible denials. Why bother to conclude another worthless agreement with this lawless character?
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When advocates of appeasement run out of other arguments, they tend to call for an immediate ceasefire. While seemingly sensible, these appeals ignore Russia’s long record of treating ceasefire agreements as opportunities to regroup and prepare for new attacks.
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Peaceniks often declare that the West must avoid painting Putin into a corner. Similarly, they warn against destabilizing Russia, but it is entirely irrational to position Putin as a source of stability when he is clearly the main destabilizing factor in both Europe and Russia itself.
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If a compromise peace allows Putin to hold on to his latest territorial gains in Ukraine, he will use any pause in hostilities to prepare for the next stage in his campaign to subjugate the rest of the country. If he wins the war, Russian aggression will inevitably expand beyond the borders of Ukraine.

Years of Western wishful thinking and concessions to the Kremlin have failed to prevent Putin’s emergence as the greatest threat to world peace. It is now time to recognize the reality of modern Russia and belatedly abandon the path of appeasement.

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Re: War
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2022, 08:25:20 pm »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/china-must-destroy-elon-musks-172946213.html

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China needs a “hard kill” weapon to destroy Elon Musk’s Starlink satellites, a state university with close links to the country’s communist regime has said.

Researchers from the Beijing Institute of Tracking and Telecommunications Technology called Starlink a threat to China’s national security because of its “huge potential for military applications”.

Why not go after the source? Weapons able to "hard kill" Musk himself already exist. Just use those!



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Re: War
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2022, 08:04:46 pm »
This would be a dream come true if it happens:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/chechen-leader-staunch-putin-ally-threatens-poland-over-support-for-ukraine-130655904.html

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LONDON — Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov, a staunch ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, threatened to attack Poland over its support for Ukraine.

Speaking in a video that was posted to social media on Wednesday, the warlord warned that Poland had “better take back” the weapons it supplied to its neighbor.

“The issue of Ukraine is closed,” said Kadyrov, via a translation from a BBC reporter. “I’m interested in Poland. Poland, what is it trying to achieve?”

He added: “After Ukraine, if we’re given the command, in six seconds we’ll show you what we’re capable of. You should better take back your weapons and your mercenaries and beg official forgiveness for what you did to our ambassador.”

Can anyone figure out a way to set it off?



See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/what-was-prussia/msg11864/#msg11864

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Re: War
« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2022, 02:19:57 am »
Please let this be true:

https://www.theklaxon.com.au/home/china-russian-border-drills

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The Chinese Government has been running war drills on its far north-eastern border, raising expert concerns the superpower could be considering a push into Russian territory with Moscow focused on its invasion of Ukraine.



Previous discussion:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg1207/?topicseen#msg1207

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099

(If this does happen, all the US would have to do is side with China's territorial claims and our long-hoped-for US-China alliance will be forged. See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/china-and-united-states-relations/ )

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Re: War
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2022, 09:02:12 pm »
What can we do to maximize the chances of this actually happening?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/foreign-ministry-russia-threatens-poland-131547257.html

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The Foreign Ministry of Russia Threatens Poland with Nuclear Strike

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Re: War
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2022, 08:41:01 pm »
Let us hope it escalates:




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Re: War
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2022, 11:20:55 pm »
In recent comments, there is more support for invasion into Russia, which is of course what I have been recommending since February:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/scenes-horror-putin-hits-mall-151404362.html

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You have to put Russia on the defense. Go after them on their own turf.

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It's time Russia start defending an invasion of their own country.

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I didn't think that Ukraine should launch rockets into Russia - now I fully support it.  It's time the Russians got a taste of what they're handing out.

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I think a missile into Moscow for every missile they fire at a civilian target may change things up a lot. Just keep aiming them at the Kremlin.

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Me Too!!! Time to take the war to them!!!!

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If I was Ukraine, I'd be hitting nearby Russian cities water treatment facilities. with drones.  No water means citizens must leave and become refugees. Clogs the roads and makes reinforcements difficult.

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It's time we give the Ukraine some long range missles so they can hit the Kremlin and other military installations inside Russia It's time they take the war to them

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I now support Ukraine launching missiles into Russia...

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Since nothing is stopping Russia, time for Ukraine to bomb Moscow!

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Give Ukraine the long-range missiles and the ability to start hitting some Russian cities. I can't understand how the civilized world can sit back and let this continue to go on.

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Re: War
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2022, 10:36:04 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-precious-key-invading-more-160046009.html

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“As Putin continues his war in Ukraine, the United States must be prepared to address the challenges he’s created in the immediate and long term for European and U.S. security,” Shaheen told The Daily Beast. “That is precisely what our legislation seeks to do by looking at a critical geopolitical region: the Black Sea.”
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Focusing on the Black Sea region is necessary to cut Putin off at the source, Shaheen told The Daily Beast.

“Control over access to the Black Sea is fundamental to his delusional dream of building a Russian empire and the United States cannot allow that to happen,” she said.
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It’s not just about the prospect of future Russian attacks. Putin’s already leveraging the Black Sea to his advantage, holding hostage grain and wheat exports through Ukraine’s Black Sea ports, which could cause famine in Somalia, Kenya, Ethiopia, and beyond, as the International Rescue Committee has warned.

The United States hasn’t had a comprehensive strategy towards the Black Sea region, and Russia’s aggression shows we need to step it up, Bill Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, told The Daily Beast.
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The strategy would include plans to increase NATO capabilities in the region, including land and air forces, and military assistance specifically to Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, and Georgia. The strategy would also include schemes to improve coordination with NATO forces, better intelligence operations and systems to track Russian ops in the region, and help defending against hybrid warfare—including plans to support more independent media to counter Russian influence operations.



Why not capture at least enough territory from Russian control so as to cut off Russian land access to the Black Sea altogether? None of the Black Sea coast originally belonged to Russia anyway:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostov-on-Don#History

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It was the site of Tanais, an ancient Greek colony, Fort Tana under the Genoese, and Fort Azak in the time of the Ottoman Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novorossiysk#History

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From 1722, the bay was controlled by an Ottoman fortress (qale) named Sujuk (also transliterated Sudzhuk, Sudschuk and Soğucak).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sochi#History

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the current location of the city of Sochi (Ş̂açə) known as Ubykhia was part of historical Circassia, and was controlled by the native people of the local mountaineer clans of the north-west Caucasus, nominally under the sovereignty of the Ottoman Empire

MAKE AZAK, SUJUK, UBYKHIA (AND EVERYTHING BETWEEN) OTTOMAN AGAIN!
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Re: War
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2022, 11:44:06 am »
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/war/msg12099/#msg12099

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The obvious move is to wait until all the reinforcements are inside Ukraine, and then open up multiple new fronts of war on Russian territory itself!

Finally someone understands!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-faces-second-war-front-133842667.html

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Putin faces second war front as Chechens threaten new offensive in Russia
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"We know the enemy’s positions, where Russian military bases are," spokesman for the Sheikh Mansur Battalion, Islam Belokiev, said in a video message obtained by Fox News Digital this week while announcing a plan to once again fight for Chechen independence.  "We have divided the Chechen Republic of Icheriya into three fronts and 16 sectors."
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At least two volunteer Chechen battalions, including veteran soldiers from both the first and second Chechen wars, have taken up arms against Russia in Ukraine, including the Sheikh Mansur Battalion and the Dzhokhar Dudayev Battalion.

Both groups have been vocal in denouncing the leader of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, who was appointed to the post in 2007 by Putin and has brutally backed his war efforts against Kyiv.
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"The possibility of them taking advantage of Putin’s forces being tied up in Ukraine to assert their independence is very plausible," she explained.

It is unclear if the Chechen volunteer forces are strategizing with Kyiv by creating a second front, but Koffler noted that even if a second front is not fully launched in Chechnya it could still strain Putin’s forces.

It would "at least make Putin and the Russians believe that they will have to divert their attention and take eyes off Ukraine, so Ukrainians could launch a counter-offensive," she said. "That’s very clever."

If two fronts are better than one, then three would be even better than two, and four would be better still, and so on! Who else wants to join in? Now is the time!


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Re: War
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2022, 01:23:14 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/origins-chinese-sovereignty-over-taiwan-080028301.html

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The foolish trip of Nancy Pelosi, our speaker of the House of Representatives, to Taiwan recently has raised again the dangerousness of our relationship with the People's Republic of China (herein PRC), a growing nuclear and world power in Asia. My purpose here is to provide a historical description of events that lay at the foundation of the PRC’s right to sovereignty over Taiwan.

Han Chinese started visiting Taiwan during the Yuan dynasty (1271-1368 A.D.). The first written account of a visit was 1349. By the 16th century, the early European explorers, the Portuguese, had entered the region and named Taiwan Ilha Formosa (“beautiful island”). Also, by the 16th century, more Chinese had come to the island, about 100 miles off the Chinese coast.

By the 17th century, the Dutch had entered the scene. At first, they were driven away by the Ming, but eventually built Fort Zeelandia, on the southwest coast of the island. In 1626, the Spanish built a settlement on the northeast coast. In 1642, the Dutch defeated the Spanish and drove them out.

In 1664, the Ming dynasty was defeated by the Manchu forces. Koxinga was a Ming loyalist. In 1662, after a nine-month siege, Koxinga captured the Dutch fortress Zeelandia. Taiwan then became his base. The Qing (Manchu) dynasty (1644-1911) defeated Koxinga’s progeny in 1683. They ruled part of the island as Taiwan Prefecture. In 1875, the island was divided into two prefectures (north and south). In 1887, Taiwan became the Fokien-Taiwan Province of China. (The above brief history is from Wikipedia, July 30, 2022).

We also cover this:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/formosa/

Continuing:

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On Oct. 1, 1949, the PRC became the successor government of China. Therefore, the PRC claims sovereignty over all of the Chinese territories, including Taiwan.
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What is the problem now?

I fully support PRC viewing itself as the successor to the Qing Dynasty. However, if so, it should claim sovereignty over Outer Manchuria also:



which (due to Xi's dripping Eurocentrism) it currently is not doing, thereby making its claim over Taiwan appear arbitrary. This is the problem now. The solution is for China to invade Outer Manchuria at once.

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Re: War
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2022, 08:25:40 pm »
Imagination is important:



Woke comments:

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It is in fact very very possible. Contrary to popular belief, china and russia really aren't friends. Its just an alliance of enemies that can break at any time. China would really like to take back Vladivostok.

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1938 Vladivostok massacre, 300000 Chinese were killed by Stalin.

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it's not only 海參崴(Hǎishēnwǎi)(Vladivostok), most of chinese want to gain back the whole outer Northeast(outer dongbei or outer manchuria), since those dongbei provinces can take back the coastline, the 吉林(JiLin province) owned the longest coastline than any other provinces in china during the Qing dynasty, and now it's landlcoked province, and the economy of northeast china were **** up because they don't have coastline and landlocked.

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Re: War
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2022, 02:50:20 am »
Will our dream become reality?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/greece-warns-another-european-war-211422261.html

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Erdogan over the weekend accused Greece of occupying demilitarized islands in the Aegean, warning that Turkey will do "what's necessary" when the time comes. In what was seemingly a veiled threat of an invasion or attack against Greece, Erdogan warned that Turkey could "come down suddenly one night."

"Look at history, if you go further, the price will be heavy," Erdogan said.

During a visit to Sarajevo on Tuesday, the Turkish leader doubled down on this threat.

"What I'm talking about is not a dream," Erdogan said after he was questioned about his earlier comments toward Greece, the Associated Press reported. "When the time comes, we can come suddenly one night."




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Re: War
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2022, 08:59:55 pm »
Now with Sweden and Finland joining NATO, we should also recall:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyenschantz

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Nyenschantz (Russian: Ниенша́нц, Nienshants; Swedish: Nyenskans; Finnish: Nevanlinna) was a Swedish fortress at the confluence of the Neva River and Okhta River, the site of present-day Saint Petersburg, Russia.
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the Swedish fortress Landskrona, built in the year 1300 by Tyrgils Knutsson, who was the Lord High Constable of Sweden. Landskrona was a very large and unusually well fortified wooden fortress with eight towers. In the spring of 1301 the Russians amassed a large army and laid siege to the fortress. When a fire broke out inside the fortress the Swedes retreated to the basement. The last of the Swedish defenders were captured and the Russians burned down the fortress.[2]
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In 1609, the Vyborg Treaty was signed by Sweden and Tsardom of Russia as a package of military agreements that were supposed to be mutually beneficial to both countries.
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The Ingrian War was triggered in 1610 as the new stability of Russia led to increased resistance to Polish occupation and Swedish influence in the country. As the Poles were defeated in Moscow, Russia began to actively resist the Swedish influence as they sought to regain control over occupied territories, including the province of Ingria, which Sweden insisted on keeping based on Russia violating conditions in the Vyborg Treaty. Sweden constructed a fortress in Ingria at a strategic position at the confluence of the prominent Neva River and one of its tributaries, the Okhta River. The new fort was officially named Nyenskans, derived from the Swedish terms Nyen-, the name for the Neva, and -skans meaning "bastion", and was capable of housing 500 people. The Ingrian War ended in Swedish victory in 1617 after the signing of the Treaty of Stolbovo, resulting in Russia ceding the territories to Sweden.
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According to church records, the town's population was largely made up of Finns, secondarily Swedes, and some Germans.[3]
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On May 1, 1703, Sweden lost Nyenskans to the Russians when the fortress was taken by Peter the Great during the Ingrian campaign of the Great Northern War.
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Nyenskans was gradually demolished over the following decades, as Saint Petersburg expanded onto the land in the direct vicinity of the fort.

Time to Make St Peterburg Nyenskans Again?



Hitler had a similar idea:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad

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Although various theories have been put forward about Germany's plans for Leningrad, including making it the capital of the new Ingermanland province of the Reich in Generalplan Ost, it is clear Hitler intended to utterly destroy the city and its population.
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Hitler's ultimate plan was to raze Leningrad to the ground and give areas north of the River Neva to the Finns.[20][21]





See also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Silver_Fox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Platinum_Fox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Fox



HAIL HITLER!

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Re: War
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2022, 12:16:19 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/estonian-premier-warns-blackouts-russia-132309877.html

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(Bloomberg) -- Estonian Prime Minister Kaja Kallas warned that Russia could be preparing to disconnect the three Baltic countries from its electricity grid, leading to potential blackouts amid a broader energy crisis.

Is this not enough reason to invade Russia at once in order to secure the energy sources? Is there a better time to do so than now?

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Re: War
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2022, 03:35:53 am »
Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/msg11692/#msg11692

more and more commenters agree with us:



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Japan should launch a "Special Recovery Operation" and get its territories back.

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Japan used to have half of Shakalin!!

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Japan should just go in and take the land back by force

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This is the right time for Japan to recover this islands now. Russia will never leave this territories peacefully. Japan must taken from them now or never.

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In the conventional warfare the Japanese  can easily took the sakhalin and the kurile island from the Russian.

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Go on Japan , let’s give Vlad the Insurger a second front .

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This is the  moment to go for it

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Very good opportunity for Japan to grab this land along with its valuable resources

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Russia has NO right to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin. These areas belong to Japan and will be regained within a short time.

And even:

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Japan should first drive US out off its islands to prove its seriousness, then Russia will give the Kurils back