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Re: Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2021, 02:58:19 am »
This guy reminds me of a type that was common back in the mid-2000s before the old post-9/11 anti-Zionist movement split. This type does not consider "non-whites" to be the outgroup, but does consider "non-whites" to be incapable of posing a serious threat to Jews, and hence that success or failure in defeating Jewish domination will be determined solely by (non-Jewish) "whites". They could be described as non-tribalist bigots (or, in other words, not racist, but Eurocentric). It's not that they don't care about the welfare of "non-whites", but that they believe that (non-Jewish) "white" rule is genuinely better for "non-whites". (They even told JAM that his contribution to the fight against Jewish domination was due only to his "white" blood!)

As such, they refused to discuss non-Jewish white supremacism alongside Jewish supremacism as two manifestations of the same problem. JAM put pressure on these types to start doing so, which led to a debate in which JAM's side (including myself) took the position that what Jews are trying hardest to suppress is anti-racism that counts Jews as racists, whereas our opponents took the position that what Jews are trying hardest to suppress is white supremacism that does not count Jews as "whites". This is what induced the BS splinter (following which every last one of the previous non-tribalist bigots gradually embraced tribalism, exactly as I predicted they would, though they blamed their ideological shift on "ingratitude" from "non-whites").

This guy, however, gives me the impression that he has been living under a rock for over a decade and hence missed the above-described events and is behaving as though it is still the mid-2000s!

Aesthetic sense reveals all:

https://twitter.com/DerorCurrency/status/1374873351403892737

According to him, I am a "master of inversion":

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-is-ugly-48/

Yet what kind of architecture do Jews themselves like?

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/kristallnacht-tribute/
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Re: Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2021, 11:25:09 am »
"This guy reminds me of a type that was common back in the mid-2000s before the old post-9/11 anti-Zionist movement split. "

This is exactly what came to my mind as well. There has been a new generation of anti-Zionists who are becoming Jew-aware by reading Christopher Bollyn, but who also promote BS Gentiles such as Kevin MacDonald (Gentile) and Christopher Jon Bjerknes (Jew) with the excuse of "providing multiple perspectives":
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/aryanism-vs-boromir-syndrome/msg2861/#msg2861
They also promote the "Jews are anti Edomites" narrative.

"It's not that they don't care about the welfare of "non-whites", but that they believe that (non-Jewish) "white" rule is genuinely better for "non-whites". They even told JAM that his contribution to the fight against Jewish domination was due only to his "white" blood!"

I see. So these might be the same type of people who would say that the people on the human beauty page only look the way they do because of alleged "White" blood, whereas the tribalist would outright be opposed to our standards. They also would (due to Eurocentrism) believe that "Whiteness" is good because "Whites" are more "empathetic" (lol) whereas a tribalist such as David Duke (Gentile) would not really believe this at all but would only be promoting this myth to fool people like the tweeter and naive "non-Whites".

"following which every last one of the previous non-tribalist bigots gradually embraced tribalism, exactly as I predicted they would,"

So are they worth the energy of ideological conversion?  Or are they simply not worth the energy as history has shown they will inevitably embrace tribalism? As I mentioned in the previous post, opposing discrimination against people with light skin is fine. Even JAM condemned this. But opposing those who oppose "Whiteness" is different.

"though they blamed their ideological shift on "ingratitude" from "non-whites""

This is the impression I get from people like the tweeter. That no matter how much a "non-White" says he condemns discrimination against people on the basis of their skin color, people like the tweeter will accuse them of being "anti-White". The irony is, they will accuse non-Whites of doing exactly this! (I.e. they will say to a "non-White", "no matter how much we oppose racism against "non-Whites", it is not enough for you. You are ungrateful." Of course those who expect "gratitude" in return for simply being non-racist are merely showing their true colors.)

"This guy, however, gives me the impression that he has been living under a rock for over a decade and hence missed the above-described events and is behaving as though it is still the mid-2000s!"

Perhaps it could be because he is new to the scene? Recall I mentioned earlier in the post that this may be the result of a new generation becoming Jew-aware. These types are stuck in the "information war" mindset that we have to "wake people up" to Jewish power, and that those who are aware of Jewish power are automatically better than those who are not, and hence this means that "Whites" are better than "non-Whites" as there exist more "Whites" than "non-Whites" who are aware of Jewish power.

In any case, becoming Jew-aware through the information war a decade after it has ended is itself strange. In my case, for example, I am also relatively "new" to the scene as I am young, but I already knew that the Jew-aware scene had been corrupted by seeing the emergence of identitarianism over the years. I was able to see just how divisive the so-called "Jew-aware" rightists were. So I sought out an ideology that was both anti-Gentile and anti-Jew, which is how I found Aryanism, which itself was merely a formal articulation of the views I already had and also confirmed my intuition that National Socialism was anti-racist (given my previous knowledge of authors such as VK Clark). It wasn't until after reading Aryanism that I even looked at the information war scene and the events that took place during that era, whereupon I learned how the schism formed.

So even if you don't know about what happened during the information war era, you should at least be able to recognize the ideological distinction between rightist "Jew-awareness" and leftist Jew-awareness, which is now more pronounced than ever. Unless of course, you are not an ideologist, but merely a hobbyist whose intent is to merely "wake people up" to Jewish power.

I recall on Aryanism you mentioned how the lack of an ideology is precisely what resulted in the schism, as there was nothing worth uniting for other than "we have to get rid of the Jews". But why should we? Only anti-tribalism, with the motto of "Unity through Nobility" will even make fighting Jewish power even worth it.
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Re: Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2021, 11:49:41 pm »
"So these might be the same type of people who would say that the people on the human beauty page only look the way they do because of alleged "White" blood, whereas the tribalist would outright be opposed to our standards."

I'm not sure that there is a correlation. After all, many "non-whites" assume the same thing! And the assumption persists irrespective of standards. In other words, a Eurocentrist who likes robustness will assume that a "non-white" with robust features got the robust features from a "white" ancestor, whereas a Eurocentrist who likes gracility will also assume that a "non-white" with gracile features got the gracile features from a "white" ancestor. It is literally that insane.

"So are they worth the energy of ideological conversion?"

Compared to spending the same energy on what? If you are going to be either trying to convert them or doing nothing, then obviously I'd rather you try to convert them. But if you have another project that you could be doing instead of converting them, I'd have to know what the other project is.

"there exist more "Whites" than "non-Whites" who are aware of Jewish power."

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Re: Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2021, 11:55:40 pm »
"I'm not sure that there is a correlation. After all, many "non-whites" assume the same thing! And the assumption persists irrespective of standards. In other words, a Eurocentrist who likes robustness will assume that a "non-white" with robust features got the robust features from a "white" ancestor, whereas a Eurocentrist who likes gracility will also assume that a "non-white" with gracile features got the gracile features from a "white" ancestor. It is literally that insane."

Yes. What I was trying to get at is that those Eurocentrists who are not tribalists might at least possess some Aryan blood memory as they like gracile features but merely believe them to be the product of "White" blood, whereas a tribalist would not even like gracile features to begin with. I was suggesting there would be a correlation between the first category of people and the people you mentioned, as they are not tribalists. I recall you mentioned on the blog how Aryan blood immunizes one from tribalism, but not necessarily from ethnocentrism.

"Compared to spending the same energy on what? If you are going to be either trying to convert them or doing nothing, then obviously I'd rather you try tol convert them. But if you have another project that you could be doing instead of converting them, I'd have to know what the other project is."

I should have rephrased: do you believe such types can even be converted to begin with? I assume you would put them in the "racelesss" category, correct?
And if they can be converted, I was thinking the same energy could be better put to use converting non-Westerners to Aryanism, for example by de-Judaizing Islam, and de-Turanizing Hinduism.

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What I meant to say is, they believe there are currently more Jew-aware "Whites" than there are Jew aware "non-Whites", so therefore "Whites" possess a greater threat to Jewry.
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Re: Re: JEWS HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH US!
« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2021, 12:25:46 am »
"those Eurocentrists who are not tribalists might at least possess some Aryan blood memory as they like gracile features"

I myself have not observed such a pattern. In any case, the initially non-tribalist Eurocentrists still liked post-Renaissance Western architecture!

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Re: Aryanism vs. Boromir Syndrome
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2021, 12:47:30 am »
"I myself have not observed such a pattern."

I haven't either, but I am sure there exist some elsewhere, if not in the non-tribalist Eurocentric "Jew aware" crowd. I assume these were the people you were talking about on the blog, in which case I would say they are more worth the effort of conversion.
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Re: Aryanism vs Boromir Syndrome
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2022, 10:13:19 pm »
Repub. Lawmaker Wants Teachers To Be ‘Impartial’ On (NEO)NAZISM
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Republican Indiana State Senator Scott Baldwin turned heads for arguing that teachers and the education system should be “impartial” when teaching about Nazism. Baldwin eventually walked back his statement even though he has connections to right-wing militia groups. Interesting…


Because the U.S. and Westerners did not understand National Socialism Neo-Nazism and "White Nationalism" exist. Because Neo-Nazis\"White"-Nationalists\Westerners still do not understand National Socialism we exist! That simple....





See also Socrates and his proving of the fact that most people do not know what the ef they are talking about, ever!

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Re: Aryanism vs Boromir Syndrome
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2022, 05:06:48 am »
"Nazis" rally in Central Florida:

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Re: Aryanism vs Boromir Syndrome
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2022, 11:21:17 pm »
BS rant from Paul Joseph Watson (Gentile):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WVBkklYGLTc&feature=emb_title

Reminder that Watson was instrumental in creating the "Alt-Roght Internet Pipeline" circa 2015.

This also illustrates the increasing overlap between ZCs and BSs
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Re: Aryanism vs Boromir Syndrome
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2022, 11:44:21 pm »
These people are always such conniving pieces of ****. Even Paul Joseph Watson is aware that he isn't the good guy, whether he's aware that he's aware or not. If he truly thought he were the good guy, he wouldn't be saying this behind closed doors. None of us here are afraid to call out the Jew because we're aware of the evil that Zionism represents in of itself, and yet you have people like this who just refuse to spout their tribalistic bullshit in the open. No truly noble person is afraid to speak on the behalf of good
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Kanye West Announces 2024 Presidential Bid
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2022, 07:16:05 pm »
https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-63754702

Background:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West#Controversies

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On October 3, 2022, during his Yeezy SZN 9 fashion show in Paris, West wore a shirt with the script "WHITE LIVES MATTER",[491][492][493] a move described by Forbes as controversial.[491] According to the Anti-Defamation League, the phrase is a white supremacist slogan that was created in response to Black Lives Matter protests against police brutality.[494]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West_2024_presidential_campaign
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On the morning of November 4, 2020,[20] West conceded in a tweet that read "WELP KANYE 2024 🕊".[21][22] In August 2021, West issued DONDA merchandise including a "$200 layered t-shirt that features both the presidential seal and the numbers '2024'".[23] On November 20, 2022, West confirmed his candidacy for the presidency in 2024 while answering paparazzi questions, also revealing that far-right commentator Milo Yiannopoulos was working for his campaign.

https://jewishjournal.com/commentary/analysis/301037/milo-yiannopoulos-talks-about-his-jewish-identity-trump-and-zionism-in-berlin/
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As a Jew married to a black man, Yiannopoulos says he is amused by being called a homophobe, anti-Semite, and racist. The 34-year-old credits himself with being a game-changer during the 2016 presidential election when he famously called then President-elect Donald Trump, “Daddy.” The then sought-after speaker defied stereotypes of stodgy Republicans, coopting the entertaining language of the left to advocate for conservative issues and personalities.

Looks like a BS backlash herding operation is in action. Kanye may not be a BS gentile himself, but he is being herded. What do you think?


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Re: Kanye West Announces 2024 Presidential Bid
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2022, 07:23:32 pm »
I hope they all die soon, and painfully.

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Re: Kanye West Announces 2024 Presidential Bid
« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2022, 07:36:59 pm »
"Kanye may not be a BS gentile himself"

Why would you think he is not? He literally believes that "blacks" are the "real Jews" while claiming to be hostile to Jews, which is exactly equivalent to Boromir believing it would be a good thing for himself to keep the Ring while claiming to be hostile to Sauron:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanye_West#Controversies

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He added that "When I say Jew, I mean the 12 lost tribes of Judah, the blood of Christ, who the people known as the race Black really are"

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Re: Kanye West Announces 2024 Presidential Bid
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2022, 08:02:37 pm »
Well I was considering the possibility that he didn't really believe what he was saying, since he has not explicitly advocated for "black" tribalism.

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Re: Kanye West Announces 2024 Presidential Bid
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2022, 08:16:57 pm »
Jews sided with non-Jewish "whites" throughout the colonial era, so West wants "blacks" (being the "real Jews" in his mind) to similarly side with "whites" now. You think Boromir would not join forces with Saruman (just as Sauron did)?