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Re: If we lose
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2022, 05:07:11 pm »
https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/mike-lindell-is-bankrolling-white-nationalist-christian-fascist-vincent-james/

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What is the agenda of the radical right-wing activists at AFPAC whom MGT was courting last night? Vincent James lays it out: Abolishing abortion, criminalizing homosexuality, "bringing an end to the anti-white indoctrination in public school" & "dominate without mercy."
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Radical white nationalist Vincent James celebrates the leaked SCOTUS decision, hoping that it will eventually lead to us seeing Justices Alito and Thomas throwing gay people off of tall buildings: "We shall have our theocracy very soon."
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White nationalist Vincent James is excited because "we're starting to see people become reactionaries," which he hopes means they'll eventually support his recommendation to establish task forces for "kidnapping the children away from gay people."
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White nationalist Vincent James gripes that everything has gone downhill since women were allowed to vote and wear pants
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White nationalist Vincent James says overturning Roe does "not go far enough" and we need to start "rolling back the 'rights' of women over the past 100 years" because "there is a true rise of Christian nationalism in this country."
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we will not stop until The Handmaid's Tale is a reality, and even worse than that."

For reference:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale

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a radical political group called the "Sons of Jacob" uses theonomic ideology to launch a revolution.[7] The United States Constitution is suspended, newspapers are censored, and what was formerly the United States of America is changed into a military dictatorship known as the Republic of Gilead. The new regime moves quickly to consolidate its power, overtaking all other religious groups, including traditional Christian denominations.

The regime reorganizes society using a peculiar interpretation of some Old Testament ideas, and a new militarized, hierarchical model of social and religious fanaticism among its newly created social classes. One of the most significant changes is the limitation of people's rights. Women become the lowest-ranking class and are not allowed to own money or property, or to read and write. Most significantly, women are deprived of control over their own reproductive functions.

The story is told in first-person narration by a woman named Offred. In this era of environmental pollution and radiation, she is one of the few remaining fertile women. Therefore, she is forcibly assigned to produce children for the "Commanders," the ruling class of men, and is known as a "Handmaid" based on the biblical story of Rachel and her handmaid Bilhah. She undergoes training to become a handmaid along with other women of her standing at the Rachel and Leah Centre.
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Offred is a slave name that describes her function: she is "of Fred" (i.e., she belongs to Fred – presumed to be the name of the Commander – and is considered a concubine). In the novel, Offred says that she is not a concubine, but a tool; a "two-legged womb". The Handmaids' names say nothing about who the women really are; their only identity is as the Commander's property.
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Christian churches that do not support the actions of the Sons of Jacob are systematically demolished
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Jews are named an exception and classified Sons of Jacob.
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African Americans, the main non-White ethnic group in this society, are called the Children of Ham.
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It is implied that Native Americans living in territories under the rule of Gilead are exterminated.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/judeo-christian-theocracy-supporters-in-the-us-(dominionists)/

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2022, 12:44:50 am »
Sorry for derailing this slightly, but have you read letters by someone who goes by "indi.ca"? (their moniker serves as the url to their blog itself)

They cover topics through the lense (Trying to coin sense+lens) of White Empire, western civilization as a quality, Western Civilization as a proper entity, and corporate artificial intelligence (as has existed since December 31, 1600 when East India Co. was founded).

"indi.ca" lived in Sri Lanka until very recently and left due to the collapse. They give a fairly easy-to-understand, imo, analysis of how liberalism&friends caused the collapse. indi.ca's model/reasoning also predicts that Sri Lanka's collapse is actually one of the first piers of liberalism/neo-colonialism (whatever you want to call it) buckling under its own weight and giving out. Given that Sri Lanka is itself apart from East Asia proper in being indebted to global western banking- thus making it a textbook "canary in the coal mine".

To get to the point- do you think this tsunami wave headed straight for the shores of western empire, this collapse, is what will act as the mechanism which allows the movement of the massive amount of "mass-energy", so to speak, required to actually transform the United States into a theocracy? See, I am not convinced theocracies like this could be established by reactionaries alone, they're necessary but not sufficient. Gentiles need to be scared, they need to be hungry, in their moment fear and hunger they turn to the brightest burning flame. An economic collapse, I predict, will give this opportunities to radical theocratic fascists in the next 5 years, +/-3 years.

The full-blown collapse of a nation which grew inflamed with the tumors of industrialism, and subsequently the tumors eaten out by maggots leaving gaping, festering wounds, being left weak as a society, would provide the perfect fomentation ground for theocratic coups.

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2022, 01:45:32 am »
"do you think this tsunami wave headed straight for the shores of western empire, this collapse, is what will act as the mechanism which allows the movement of the massive amount of "mass-energy", so to speak, required to actually transform the United States into a theocracy?"

I agree that extremist ideologies are likeliest to thrive in desperate conditions, but this in principle applies to leftist as well as rightist extremism. If both leftists and rightists were offering extremist solutions to the collapse with the same confidence, rightists would not necessarily have an advantage.

The reason why rightists for now have an advantage in reality is that False Leftists have a psychological aversion to extremism of any kind, including leftist extremism, which causes them to believe in countering rightist extremism not with leftist extremism but instead with calls for moderation (which includes attacking True Leftists for trying the counter rightist extremism with leftist extremism) that rightists will not listen to anyway. Thus while rightists are all moving further right, True Leftists encounter resistance from False Leftists as well as from rightists.

Unless False Leftists are defeated soon, my pessimistic estimate is that rightists will be the biggest beneficiary of the collapse.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/how-'moderates'-serve-the-right/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/how-the-(false)-left-sold-out-everyday-people/

"theocratic fascists"

If you are referring to a rightist movement, please do not call them "fascists" (a False Leftist bad habit):

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/trump-a-fascist/

"Theocracy" is not intrinsically rightist either; it all depends on which god we are talking about putting in charge:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/right-left-(judeo-)christian-divergence/
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Re: If we lose
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2022, 04:00:01 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-italy-tense-deal-help-120732825.html

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NICE, France (AP) — A deal for Europe to jointly help asylum-seekers was breaking apart Thursday in a French-Italian feud over a ship floating in the Mediterranean with its passengers and crew desperate for land.

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If those countries were smart they would have done mass genocide a century or so ago and we wouldn’t have this problem. Just like US Violence problem. If we would have done the Tulsa massacre across every city. Would probably be one of the safest nations in the world. Should of never had the slave trade for them to be dispersed all over the world.

What do you think will happen if this commenter is in a position of power one day? Answer:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-we-lose/msg644/#msg644
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Re: If we lose
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2022, 12:29:29 am »
https://rmx.news/france/top-french-intellectuals-debate-god-the-eu-euthanasia-and-immigration/

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“When entire territories are under Islamist control, I think acts of resistance will take place. There will be attacks and shootings in mosques.”
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Houellebecq seems to be implying that White Europeans may partake in such attacks against Muslims, such as was seen with the Christchurch shooting in New Zealand.

Recall:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/rightist-mass-shootings/msg914/#msg914

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Re: If we Lose
« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2022, 09:01:13 pm »
« Last Edit: December 10, 2022, 10:27:45 pm by rp »

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2022, 10:30:38 pm »
Spencer is also wrong about Jews:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/msg11366/#msg11366

But yes, it is his misuse of "Aryan" that is particularly annoying, and all the more underscores our need to reclaim the term from rightists.

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2022, 10:41:41 pm »
"Spencer is also wrong about Jews"
He is one of those rightists who will correctly identify the Old Testament/Israelites as Jewish, but will still somehow find a way to portray them as "leftist". As if the Yahwist Israelites weren't descendants of the same Turanian untermensch.

Ultimately, he only dislikes the Israelites because they were Semitic, making him a true anti-Semite.

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2022, 12:51:34 am »
Saying that it's "not the destiny of the Jews" to explore outer space is single-handedly one of the most foolish things that Richard Spencer has ever said. Have Ashkenazi Jews not been over-represented in scientific achievement for all of modern history up to this point? Do they not consistently rank at the very end of the IQ spectrum compared to all other ethnic groups? We all know that white nationalists love their IQ tests. All it would take is a quick 5 second Google search to prove his assertion completely and utterly wrong. The fields of science, including the branches dedicated to space, have no shortage of Jews. Better yet, Richard Spencer and his followers should read our article on Jewgenics if they want to hear it straight from our mouths:

http://aryanism.net/blog/other/racial-jewishness-archive-from-true-left-forum/

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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2023, 08:48:31 pm »
William Luther Pierce's ideas not yet die


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Re: If we lose
« Reply #25 on: June 27, 2023, 06:00:24 pm »
How our enemies would use the US military if they were in power:

https://vdare.com/posts/wall-street-journal-supplies-justification-seize-darien-gap-to-cut-immivasion



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The Darien Gap should be seized and closed to the immivaders, cutting the jugular of the immivasion.  Panama has only itself to blame.

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2023, 06:46:09 pm »
Wokening:

https://twitter.com/sairasameerarao/status/1726948445599261051

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What it truly and really feels like is white people wanting all Black and brown people dead.

Murdered, live-streamed. Children, elderly, our pets.

All of us.

The bottom line is that we are approaching a mass die-off as more and more of the planet will become unsuitable for habitation due to global warming, land/water/air pollution and other environmental problems. The only important question is whether those who get wiped out are those whose civilization caused it all or those whose civilizations did not. The former want it to be the latter.

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Re: If we lose
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2023, 02:34:24 am »
As I predicted long ago, our enemies now openly admit their intention to do a second round of colonialism:

https://www.amren.com/videos/2023/12/mooncalves-at-harvard-think-they-understand-africa/

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The only solution is to put white people back in charge.
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South Africa used to be a leader in science. In 1967, South African doctor Christian Barnard was the first man to transplant a human heart, in Cape Town.

Now, South Africa can’t even keep up with the world’s poorest countries. As you can see, its percentage of all the patents granted just to black African countries has fallen by more than 60 percent in the last 20 years.

They even specifically mention:

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When White South Africa died, the remarkable military and nuclear technology alliance between SA and Israel died as well. Afrikaner and Jewish brain power combined to create the most advanced nuclear weapons, military equipment, and other technological marvels. One can only imagine what this alliance would have produced had White SA not been destroyed. Now the third world devils (and some misguided Whites) want Israel destroyed too.

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I would suggest putting back the Whites not only in South Africa but also in India. The Raj built the Subcon a decent country, just like the Boers; look where India is now.

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Rudyard Kipling described non-whites as half-devil, half-child. What would happen if you entrusted children to run a modern 21st century nation state? It wouldn't work very well.

You can either put adults in charge, put them in defacto charge (adults control the purse strings, supervise the children and tell them what to do) or you can shrug your shoulders and accept that not everyone is fit for a white-level of civilization.