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Re: Leftist vs rightist moral circles
« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2022, 08:31:58 pm »
Debate with the rigthist White Nationalist on Discord group named "SocialismStation", the leftist Discord online group

Date : Thursday, 18th August 2022, 00 : 26 until 01 : 02 Jakarta Time



Explanation 1 :

I'm explained to a Discord account named "Willem#0538" that the Islamic people were justified to attack Europe during medieval and "renaissance" era, because they were "whites" and Jews whose behaviour was resulting colonialism. But he not answer my argument back, but only said anything which not related to the topic, that was showing that the European culture was "most educated"



Explanation 2 :

I'm explained to him that the "White Europeans" were wrong if they are "educated". I show to him that even they not aware the danger of capitalism and don't know how to integrate the multi-racial society. And I said that the muslims were fair on enslave people, all of people from any racial-background can be muslims's slaves. Different to how the "White Europeans" see who can be slaves and how they treated slaves. And I explained to him that the "White Europeans" only ended slavery because not moral reason, but economic and political reasons from the rise of slave's large rebellion during that time.



Explanation 3 :

I'm explained to him that indeed all groups of people commited slavery. But the racist slavery was uniquely only did by "White Europeans" during colonial era. And he kept saying that slavery were commited by all groups of people, which not relevant to my recent answer. And he uniquely justified the British's enslavement of the "colored" people in "Africa" during colonial era, because they are more weak. Even though I'm explained to him that the British can more simply invade and enslave the Dutch or Netherlanders. Which more weak from them if they want to have colonial territory and slaves. But he kept said that the British ever lose wars from Netherlanders which justified his support of British colonialism and enslavement to the people of "Africa". What a hypocrite man...



Explanation 4 :

I'm already explained the hypocrisy of "White Europeans" when they did war and enslaved their opponents. They only enslaved and tortured ruthlessly the "colored", but kept freeing "whites" and arrested them with ordinary ways. And I said to him that the British can searched the another European nations which more easy than them if they want to did colonialism and enslavement, but they don't, because the European nations which close to them are inhabitated by "White Europeans". And he kept saying the same argument, that they rather colonized the easy target that is the "colored" people, because they are more weak according to him. And I said that from knowledge which I'm knew, only Hitler who didn't hypocrite and instead he dare to order his soldiers to enslaved the people whose be his ancestors. And he began to rant on this current conversation, not answering with logical arguments anymore



Explanation 5 :

I explained to him that if the "White Europeans" were just during that time, they rather colonize and enslave their fellow "whites" rather than the other "colored" people. And he begin said anything rant to me without answer with knowledge arguments.



Explanation 6 :

He kept said to me that I need to learn history meanwhile he not acknowledge his own hypocrisy. And he said that the "White Europeans" ever enslaved their fellow "whites" through the event of "Ostkolonisation". And I'm answered it with argument that the "White Europeans"'s conquest of the Eastern Europe were not ruthless until doing slavery rather than their conquest colonialism to the whole "colored" people, and if the "White Europeans" colonized the Eastern Europeans like how they colonize the "colored" people. Then their plantations will be full of "whites" too, but the fact was not like that.



Explanation 7 :

And he kept rant to me. And I'm said again with argument that if the "White Europeans" were did according to "fairness" rather than the economic cause. They will attacked and enslaved their fellow "whites" first rather than spend much money to doing discovery to other far territories and colonized and enslaved the "colored" people. But the fact was the otherwise... And he kept said that colonize and enslave the "colored" people were the more easy target, and he said that there's nothing fair on slavery. Even though I'm already shown that there's more fair slavery than how "White Europeans" did slavery.



Explanation 8 :

I'm explaining again to him that the slavery which did by the "non-white Europeans" were not unfair as how the "White Europeans" commit slavery. And there's no segregration on Mongolian Empire too. And I kept said to him that I reject to support the Ummayad Caliphate, seeing that they are govern with Arab racialist ideology, not really based on Islamic teachings.



Explanation 9 :

He kept said that slavery was only European concept. Actually I'm from the beginning said to criticize the colonialist concept from the "White European"'s slavery. And he suddenly begin to pretend that he not supported the colonialist's slavery. But he already defended the "White European"'s slavery from the beginning of conversation with me.

This is the Discord account which I have conversation with

Account Discord named Willem#0538



Nice to talk with the "White Slavic" people