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Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« on: July 24, 2020, 03:59:55 am »
OLD CONTENT

Action after the online setback.

First is, Judaism has made a model of martyr-image exploitation. Second, Judeo-Christians (and many other religions) have sympathy towards Jews and Judaism. Third, Judaism is a pillar of Western Civilization.

The first two make overt attacks against Judaism immensley difficult without preparation. This leads to number three, Judaism IS a pillar of Western Civilization and the problem is that people still have faith and sympathy of that. Thus, WestCiv should be portrayed as having a rotten root.

Tanakh (Old Testament in Judeo-Christianity & also a part of traditional Islam)
**Numbers 33-52**
"Drive out all the inhabitants of the land before you. Destroy all their carved images and their cast idols, and demolish all their high places."

**Deuteronomy 7-5** --- IDF & ISIS explained from their own holybook
"This is what you are to do them: Break down their altar, smash their sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles and burn their idols in the fire."

**Deuteronomy 7-6** --- Tribalism in a nutshell
"For you are a people holy to the Lord your God. The Lord your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession."

**Deuteronomy 9-14**
"Let me alone, so that I may destroy them and blot out their name from under heaven."

**Deuteronomy 20-16** --- IDF & ISIS explained from their own holybook
"For in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God gives you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes."

**Deuteronomy 23-19**
"Do not charge a fellow Israelite interest, whether on money or food or anything else that may earn interest."

**Deuteronomy 23-20**
"You may charge a foreigner interest, but not a fellow Israelite, so that the LORD your God may bless you in everything you put your hand to in the land you are entering to possess."

**Exodus 22-18**
"Do not allow a sorceress to live."

**Isaiah 19:2-3**
"And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother and every one against his neighbor; city against city and kingdom against kingdom. And the spirit of Egypt shall fall in the midst thereof; and I will
destroy the counsel thereof: and they shall seek to the idols, and to the charmers, and to them that have familiar spirits, and to the wizards.

**Isaiah 34**
"The Lord is angry at all the Gentiles; he will deliver them to the slaughter; their land will became burning pitch; it will become a wasteland, soaked with their blood; there will be no nobles in the land; their princes will die out."

**Leviticus 1-3**
"If the offering is a burnt offering from the herd, you are to offer a male without defect. You must present it at the entrance to the tent of meeting so that it will be acceptable to the Lord."

**Leviticus 4-27 to 28**
"If any member of the community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD's commands, when they realize their guilt and the sin they have committed becomes known, they must bring as their offering for the sin they committed a female goat without defect."

**Leviticus 12-1 to 5**
"The Lord said to Moses, 'Say to the Israelites: ‘A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding.'"

**Leviticus 26-30**
"I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars and pile your dead bodies on the lifeless forms of your idols, and I will abhor you."

**Esther 8-17** -- Celebrating Purim, a mass murder of those "not chosen"
"In every province and in every city to which the edict of the king came, there was joy and gladness among the Jews, with feasting and celebrating. And many people of other nationalities became Jews because fear of the Jews had seized them."

Don't martyr Judaism, they'll win that way. It's their model, however sado-masochistic. Instead, point out that the Old Testament IS, IN FACT, a key to WestCiv and this is what makes WestCiv so reprehensible and led it to colonialism and other things. It's a key of WestCiv, however not one to be lauded, rather despised and ideally excised. It's a dogmatic and savage religion that can be lumped with traditional Christianity (Evangelicals, Catholics, etc), thus don't target ONLY J-ism, rather with it's related religions. This way you can't get blamed for blaming just Js and J-ism.

Further info, quotes to consider, mostly American-history relevant:

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable." ~JFK, Revolution away from WestCiv

"Today we need a nation of Minutemen, citizens who are not only prepared to take arms, but citizens who regard the preservation of freedom as the basic purpose of their daily life and who are willing to consciously work and sacrifice for that freedom." ~JFK (who should replace Reagan as the "best All-American President) Leftist Militarism

"The thing worse than rebellion is the thing that causes rebellion." ~ Frederick Douglass, 1st JFK quote follows this directly.

"I believe that there will ultimately be a clash between the oppressed and those who do the oppressing. I believe that there will be a clash between those who wanted freedom, justice and equality for everyone and those who wanted to continue the system of exploitation. I believe that there will be that kind of clash, but I don't think it will be based on the color of the skin." ~Malcolm X, Looking past tribal (superficial) boundaries

"What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly... it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as FREEDOM should not be highly rated."
~Thoman Paine, probably the most anti-dogmatic religion US Founder Father. Again, Leftist militarism, though Rightists also use this quote.

The next could open a hornets nest, so stress is against "Biblical Tradition" as the OT is part of traditional Christianity and even branches of Islam. Note that Paine directly mentions traditional Christianity.
“Could we permit ourselves to suppose that the Almighty would distinguish any nation of people by the name of His chosen people, we must suppose that people to have been an example to all the rest of the world of the purest piety and humanity, and not such a nation of ruffians and cut-throats as the ancient Jews were; a people who, corrupted by and copying after such monsters and impostors as Moses and Aaron, Joshua, Samuel and David, had distinguished themselves above all others on the face of the known earth for barbarity and wickedness. If we will not stubbornly shut our eyes and steel our hearts, it is impossible not to see, in spite of all that long-established superstition imposes upon the mind, that the flattering appellation of His chosen people is no other than a lie which the priests and leaders of the Jews had invented to cover the baseness of their own characters, and which Christian priests, sometimes as corrupt and often as cruel, have professed to believe.” ~Thomas Paine, Age of Reason. Serious anti-dogma and this is the "draining of the swamp" that needs to be done, not what Trump said, rather the flushing of this old, rancid set of ideas deemed "holy"

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New Testament (social justice) vs Old Testament (homophobia):



This needs to happen more often.

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news.yahoo.com/mississippi-wedding-venue-cites-christian-175408467.html

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In a now-viral video posted on Facebook on Saturday by LaKambria Welch, an unidentified woman can be heard saying, in part, "we don't do gay weddings or mixed-raced (weddings) because of our Christian race, I mean our Christian belief."

Excuse me??

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I take it no FBI agent has ever actually read the Old Testament?

“Old stereotypes”…. You mean the stereotypes that one is forced to see whenever they read any of the texts associated with the racial doctrine known by non-Jews as Judaism?

Undercover in the Orthodox Underworld
gen.medium.com/undercover-in-the-orthodox-underworld-83c61ba3aa83

I must think this one thought atleast twice a day, everyday, if not more: How could any person read the Old Testament and believe the “god” contained with in to by Holy and good? Only an insane person could pull something like that off, and be serious about it, right?

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Rightists complain about this:

www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/09/nativity-scene-shows-holy-family-separated-caged-at-u-s-border/

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“In a time in our country when refugee families seek asylum at our borders and are unwillingly separated from one another, we consider the most well-known refugee family in the world,” Rev. Ristine wrote.
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“What if this family sought refuge in our country today?” she asked.

“Imagine Joseph and Mary separated at the border and Jesus no older than two taken from his mother and placed behind the fences of a Border Patrol detention center as more than 5,500 children have been the past three years,” she said.

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Rightist attitude:



(Again I disagree that there is nothing that can be done about the judges. Bullets work fine.)

Also rightist attitude:

vdare.com/posts/criminal-alien-gains-sanctuary-in-church-ice-should-haul-him-out-of-it

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www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/03/19/polish-priest-wishes-pope-early-death-call-catholics-take-muslim/

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Polish priest wishes Pope early death over call for Catholics to take in Muslim refugees
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Father Edward Staniek, a parish priest in the southern city of Krakow, had apparently been angered by the pope’s call for Catholics to take in Muslim refugees because it was their Christian duty.

We despise Francis too, but for the opposite reason. Whereas Staniek despises him for following the New Testament, we despise him for also following the Old Testament:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/the-pope/11392641/Pope-Francis-parents-can-smack-their-children-for-bad-behaviour.html

Old Testament only = Judaism (e.g. Staniek)
Old Testament + New Testament = Judeo-Christianity (e.g. Francis)
New Testament only = Gnosticism (e.g. Jesus)
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 04:09:54 am »
OLD CONTENT contd.

“Go forth, be fruitful, multiply” -Tanakh
Embedded in the Western psyche is the primitive biological drive to perpetually reproduce

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www.yahoo.com/news/president-gave-us-much-hope-232747729.html

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When the president beckoned the executives to the lectern to say a few words about their efforts, up first was Lindell — a major Republican donor, the Trump campaign’s chairman for Minnesota and someone who has called Trump the “greatest president” in American history and someone who was “chosen by God.”
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“God gave us grace on November 8, 2016, to change the course we were on,” Lindell began, referencing the day Trump was elected president. “Taken out of our schools and lives, a nation had turned its back on God.”

Lindell then offered advice to families stuck at home because of various social-distancing guidelines: “I encourage you to use this time at home to get back in the Word, read our Bibles and spend time with our families.”

And this is why we need this reaction:

wbckfm.com/michigan-rep-rashida-tlaib-retweets-f-a-national-day-of-prayer/

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Think carefully about this statement:

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Europeans were in need of new frontiers to sustain their spirit, and so God ordained them to take lands in New World.

Duchesne explicitly admits that those like him can never be satisfied with what they possess (no matter how much), but will always be "in need of new frontiers". For them it is not about obtaining that which will bring lasting contentment (and thus end desire for more), but rather about endlessly reiterating the action of acquisition itself.

In other words, violently taking for themselves what belongs to others (and justifying it theologically) is what they will keep doing over and over again to everyone else for as long as they are allowed to continue existing. In light of this, how can anyone argue that they should not at the very least be prohibited from reproducing?

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"Duchesne explicitly admits that those like him can never be satisfied with what they possess (no matter how much), but will always be "in need of new frontiers". For them it is not about obtaining that which will bring lasting contentment (and thus end desire for more), but rather about endlessly reiterating the action of acquisition itself."

This is fundamental to Turanian psychology, which necessarily thrives on the subjugation and plunder of other people, since Turanians, being nomads, did not themselves have a permanent territory which they could call home.

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us.yahoo.com/huffpost/st-johns-fire-protest-donald-trump-004306778.html

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After a press conference in the Rose Garden Monday evening, Trump walked from the White House to pose in front of St. John’s Church’s sign while holding a Bible. Law enforcement fired tear gas at hundreds of peaceful protesters to clear the way for Trump, The Associated Press reported.
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Bishop Mariann Budde, leader of The Episcopal Diocese of Washington, told HuffPost that she was “outraged” about Trump’s appearance. “I am going to do everything in my power to disassociate our church from what the president did tonight,” she said.

Trump used the Bible and St. John’s Church as a backdrop for a message that is “antithetical to the teachings of Jesus and everything that our church stands for,” Budde said in a separate statement.

“He did not pray when he came to St. John’s,” Budde said. The president also failed to acknowledge the agony of people of color who are “rightfully demanding an end to 400 years of systemic racism and white supremacy.”

“In no way do we support the President’s incendiary response to a wounded, grieving nation,” she said.



This is beyond self-parody......

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www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/church-isn-t-saying-black-050024877.html

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This past Sunday, I held my breath, waiting to see what fellow white Christians would tell me about their church services. Would their white pastors speak out directly against racism, proclaim Black Lives Matter, and urge their congregants to join the uprising as white allies? What I feared—and what many of my own social media followers told me—happened. Many pastors opted to either completely ignore George Floyd’s murder (instead adhering to business as usual) or preached vague messages of peace and love. Some even threw in a MLK quote for good measure. Now white Christians have a choice to make. They know where their pastoral leadership stands. Do they stay, or do they walk away?

Christians are supposed to love others as they love themselves. The Bible is clear as day on this. The Bible also says faith without works is dead. Is prayer important in a believer’s life? It’s supposed to be. However, it’s not the sole method of loving God and others. Christians are supposed to be in-action, or as the Bible says, the hands and feet of Jesus. Another verse commands Christians to be “salt and light.”

You may have left the church, or decided it wasn’t for you in the first place, because you believe Christians are hypocrites. They say one thing and do another. I empathize with this pain. Why aren’t congregations across the country on their knees praying for people of color and then taking action by reading books on anti-racism, joining the protests, and electing woke candidates into governmental positions? If you have been jaded by the church, you are certainly not alone.
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Some white Christians believe politics and social justice have no place in church. They prefer to sit comfortably in pews, sway to music, and hear sermons that coddle their fragility—messages that don’t rock the boat. They are quick to condemn what they believe to be wrong without every recognizing that they are, in fact, upholding white supremacy by doing nothing. They are dangerous, and they don’t even know it, oblivious that their silence is quite loud. They also believe that by sponsoring African children, using diversity stock photos on their websites, and being nice to people of color (including their “one black friend”), they are clearly not-racist. (Ahem, tokenism much?)

I truly believe that churches, just like each person, are either anti-racist or racist. Author Ibram X. Kendi explains that there’s no gray area or neutrality when it comes to racism.
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saying nothing is saying something: that black lives do not matter.
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A pastor who claims God loves everyone should also be willing to lay down his life for another. That’s what a true friend does, as the Bible says. We are supposed to be putting others before ourselves. We are also commanded to empathize, to weep with those who weep.

If white Christians continue to support their complacent and “neutral” churches with their efforts and dollars, they are choosing to continue to harm their black brothers and sisters. Subjecting children to whitewashed, white privileged teachings means raising future racists. Likewise, giving tithes (that Christian talk for financial donations to the church) to an entity that upholds whiteness is feeding white supremacy.



I would put it even more strongly: you can either be "white", or you can be Christian, but you can't be both.

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Our enemies are conceding Christianity to us:

www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/speak-the-truth-or-kiss-it-all-goodbye/

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These are very dark days, but one fact shines out: this is not happening because the mobs have more power than we do. It is happening because we are allowing it to happen. We have given them the power they have. A healthy society, a healthy white majority that was sure of itself and morally unconfused, could have shut these mobs down in one day. But what of the Leftist elite? Don’t they have greater power than us? There too, they derive their power from our consent. We have consented to make them moral authorities. We have allowed them to define the limits of “acceptable” discourse. Cravenly, we have again and again conceded them the moral high ground. Why? Ultimately, the reason has to do with the fact that Leftist ideology is the distilled essence of a certain sermon on a certain mount, which we have all been virtue-signaling our approval of, but never fully believing in, for almost two thousand years.

As I have said before, we are not "cultural Marxists". If anything, we are cultural Christians. And now even our enemies are gradually understanding this.

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Is Hanukkah a Racist Holiday?*
www.westernspring.co.uk/is-hanukkah-a-racist-holiday/

*YES

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If it was a holiday for non-Jewish Whites seeking to jump out of the melting pot and have their own culture and not be assimilated it would be called that.

You be the judge. Substitute Whites for Jews and imagine what anti-White bigots might be saying about it.

Antiochus IV Epiphanes of Syria, a ruler who sought to end conflict among people, tried to make his empire a peaceful place by eradicating differences among the diverse groups in his empire (sound familiar?).

This well-intentioned, or evil, ruler, depending on your point of view, wanted all people to have one religion (his religion) so that there would be no religious disputes. He also wanted all people to have one culture (his) so there would be no cultural disputes, and he wanted all people to be of one race (his) so there would be no racial disputes. His solution was to create a great melting pot (familiar concept, isn’t it?) where various minority peoples–and especially the Jews–would be assimilated into his brave new world.

A few “extremist” Jews (i.e., those who didn’t agree) said “No thanks, we like ourselves just as we are.” These grassroots “extremists,” led by Judah Maccabee, a peasant, resisted blending in, and they were hated and reviled as what we would now call “racists,” “bigots,” “extremists,” “separatists,” supremacists,” etc., and, to coin a term, “judeocentric.”

Not all Jews helped Maccabee. In fact, the elites of Jewish society favored the blending away of the Jews (much as our modern elites favor the blending away of whites) and they helped the tyrant in his attempt at assimilating Jews into non-existence.

The “extremist” Maccabees, weren’t having it and they fought against both the Syrian tyrant and their own Jewish elites. In time, the Maccabees won, and Jews who didn’t assimilate, became the only Jews, and they celebrated their victory over the forces of assimilation with Hanukkah.

So, Hanukkah was about Jews being able to have their own identity and religion as they themselves decided was right for themselves, and it was a struggle against their extinction by assimilation.

There are lessons in Hanukkah for both modern Jews and non-Jews alike.

Isn’t it time, today, for more Maccabean type of thinking? But from non-Jewish awakened Whites, this time?

The evil forces that want to blend all nations, all religions and all races together are working overtime to accomplish this and their primary target is White people and White nations.

If they can flood formerly White nations with enough non-Whites, nature will take over and the White genotype will be absorbed into the non-White genotype and Whites will go extinct. Look around where you live. Isn’t it starting to look less White? It’s not your imagination. You’re seeing genocide in action on a daily basis.

Evil is creeping in on soft feet. It is White extinction that is happening right in front of our eyes with one act of bedroom genocide at a time, and we are being told that “diversity,” “multi-culturalism,” “the rainbow of humanity,” is a good thing and that if we want to remain White, it is a bad thing.

Whites should not buy the lies and they should trust their eyes and their reason and they should struggle to stay White in all ways possible.

One can almost imagine Antiochus singing John Lennon’s song, IMAGINE.

Funny, when you hear Lennon singing this, the blending away of distinct races, nations and religions doesn’t sound evil, does it?

But, it is evil to those of us who believe that distinct races, nations and religions have a right to exist as they choose to exist and to remain separate and have their own self-identification and self-determination without interference from other races, nations and religions.

Fight the genocide and the haters by having many more White children. The more of us, the better for all of us and the greater the chance that we will survive as Whites.
WNs are confirmed Judeophiles.

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For the record, the Orthodox Church is more Tanakh-heavy than the others:

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"the "Anagignoskomena" (ἀναγιγνωσκόμενα, "things that are read") comprises ten of the Old Testament books rejected in the Protestant canon,[109] but deemed by the Eastern Orthodox worthy to be read in worship services, even though they carry a lesser esteem than the 39 books of the Hebrew canon.[110] The lowest tier contains the remaining books not accepted by either Protestants or Roman Catholics, among them, Psalm 151."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church#Bible

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"The Eastern Orthodox canon includes the deuterocanonical books listed above, plus 3 Maccabees and 1 Esdras (also included in the Clementine Vulgate), while Baruch is divided from the Epistle of Jeremiah, making a total of 49 Old Testament books in contrast with the Protestant 39-book canon.[83]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deuterocanonical_books#Eastern_Orthodoxy

Look at this ****:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Maccabees#Synopsis
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2020, 04:13:06 am »
Our enemies again concede Christianity to us:

https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/07/18/the-way-forward-partition-partition-partition-and-the-remainder-of-the-operational-plan/

   
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we must separate the White Western tradition from Christianity. Northern and Eastern Europe weren’t fully Christianized until the twelfth century, and some parts of Europe were arguably never truly Christianized. The White West has arguably been non-Christian longer than it has been Christian. ... Moreover, the Renaissance and the explosion in human knowledge that has taken place from the Renaissance to the present day has occurred as Christianity has gradually withered. I doubt that is an accident.

I agree. As I have pointed out in the past, the Renaissance happened after the Cathars were exterminated. I doubt that is an accident.

   
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Christianity has become one hundred percent Christ and zero percent Charlemagne, and that is a serious problem.

I would like to take partial credit for this development. And seriously, who do you think Christianity is meant to be about? Check the name "Christianity" FFS.....

   
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If White Christians, on balance, continue to choose religion over the race, the religion may have to be discarded altogether for Whites to survive. How can Whites thrive, or even survive, if one third of our people are anti-White leftist lunatics, and two thirds of the remaining two thirds are Christian nutjobs who place fellow Christians above their own coethnics?! If Whites cannot shape Christianity to serve our people, what good is it for our people?

Please discard it ASAP so that we can begin re-Gnosticizing it.

   
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Whites, in truth, must learn to be more like the Jews. Jews put the tribe first and belief second, and they’re impervious to criticism. That is arguably the key to Jewish success.

By now, you already are. That is why, just as Jews rejected Jesus' teachings 2000 years ago, seeing in them an ideological danger to Jewish tribalism, you are now doing the same because you see in them the same ideological danger to "white" tribalism.

 
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Christian leaders today do not seem to care if White defectors are replaced with 70-IQ African believers. Like Western oligarchs, they seem more interested in quantity than quality.

You still don't get it, do you? What you call the "70-IQ African believers" are higher-quality than you by Christian standards!
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2020, 03:14:08 pm »
I repeat, leftists are not "cultural Marxists", but cultural Christians:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/27/vatican-calls-for-mass-regularisation-of-illegal-migrants-in-spain/

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“In Spain, mass regularisation can be a solution that benefits everyone,” said Father Fabio Baggio during an online forum last week with representatives from Spanish Catholic dioceses in charge of immigrants.

Representatives of the far-left Spanish political alliance Unidas Podemos (“United We Can”), comprising Podemos, United Left, and other left-wing parties, immediately embraced the Vatican solution, noting that it coincides exactly what the Spanish Left has been calling for.
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This universal regularisation of all immigrants is both “an imperative of justice” and “the right decision from the health and economic point of view,” the group insists.

After the announcement of the Vatican’s support for mass regularization, the spokesman for Unidas Podemos, Pablo Echenique, tweeted a message to the leaders of the centre-right Partido Popular (Pablo Casado Blanco) and the nationalist Vox party (Santiago Abascal), urging them as Catholics to follow the Vatican’s lead and welcome the call for universal amnesty and citizenship.

In his address last week, the Vatican’s Father Baggio said that there would be “massive migratory flows stemming from people’s desire to find a solution to their economic problems” following the coronavirus pandemic, and urged nations to welcome them and rejected a “new protectionism” against unchecked immigration in Europe.

“We think that many countries will have restricted entry, as they have done at this time, without promoting regular channels of immigration… to give priority to their nationals,” the priest warned. “This rise of ‘new protectionism’ could cause an increase in irregular channels of immigration.”

There is not a single rightist who has ever tried to deny that Jesus was pro-refugee.

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2020, 06:11:50 pm »
BTW, now that leftists are becoming Jew-aware, Jews such as cartoonist Eli Valley (Jew) are trying to deflect blame by putting the blame on so-called “White Christian” Gentiles, when the phrase itself is an oxymoron. Thankfully, Black Twitter seems to be woke to this, hence why they put “Christian” in quotes when referring to “White Christians”
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2020, 11:31:27 pm »
BLM increasingly understand that Jesus is a leftist:



But do they understand that Moses would have unloaded a clip into the opposite guy than Jesus would have?

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2020, 11:46:39 pm »
https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/tucker-carlson-guest-compares-priest-recognizing-white-privilege-catholic-worship-service

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TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): The video of the Catholic mass in which the Nicene Creed has been replaced by talking points from BLM really should make us think.

ERIC METAXAS (GUEST): Well, it's stroking violence, if I could coin a phrase. I'll be honest with you, it's -- if they had a swastika on the altar, it would be no different.

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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2020, 05:38:11 pm »
I repeat, leftists are not "cultural Marxists", but cultural Christians

Meanwhile in the Russian Orthodox Church, praised by rightists for its traditionalism:

https://imrussia.org/en/society/281-the-russian-orthodox-church-and-the-curse-of-the-mongol-yoke

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Left: Patriarch Alexy I of Moscow greets Joseph Stalin on the occasion of his 70th birthday (1949). Right: Icon portraying Joseph Stalin, where he (following a totally unsubstantiated legend) is asking St. Matryona of Moscow for her blessing. The icon appeared several years ago at the St. Princess Olga Church in the city of Strel'na of Leningrad Region. Representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church have frequently urged the canonization of "the great leader" as a saint. They justify this rationale by stating that Stalin was deeply religious. Meanwhile, leaders of the Communist Party in St. Petersburg and the Leningrad Region have also addressed the Patriarch with a proposal to canonize Stalin.
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2020, 12:26:50 am »
https://us.yahoo.com/news/catholic-priest-says-democrats-going-162059363.html

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Father James Altman, pastor of St. James the Less Catholic Church, lashed out at Father James Martin, who participated in the Democratic National Convention. In a 10-minute video posted to YouTube, Altman called the priest a “hyper, confusing spreading heretic” and had harsh words toward Democrats.

“Here is a memo to clueless baptized Catholics out there: You cannot be Catholic and be a Democrat. Period,” Altman said in the video posted Aug. 30. “The party platform absolutely is against everything the Catholic Church teaches, so just quit pretending that you’re Catholic and vote Democrat. Repent of your support of that party and its platform or face the fires of hell.”

Tyler, Texas, Bishop Joseph Strickland tweeted his endorsement of Altman’s statement.

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A Pew Research poll last month found white Catholics support President Donald Trump for reelection by a margin of 19 points, but Hispanic Catholics overwhelmingly support Biden, according to the Catholic News Agency.

Demographic Blueshift also applies to churches.
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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2020, 12:09:12 am »
Another win for us:

https://vdare.com/posts/surrender-of-the-southern-baptists-american-christianity-has-fallen

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The Southern Baptist Convention has fallen, as has every other denomination before it. It no longer exists, in the process of renaming itself the “Great Commission Baptists,” in a move Convention President J.D. Greear [Tweet him] declares is “essential” to supporting Black Lives Matter.

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The American Church is no more; organized, institutional Christianity is gone, except perhaps for Russian Orthodoxy.

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2020, 11:23:57 pm »
Why do they even bother claiming to be Christian?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/nc-pastor-yells-white-power-from-truck-during-weekend-trump-parade-videos-show/ar-BB19obuv

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Unlike most of the speakers at the Trump rally at Ace Speedway on Saturday, Jesse Hursey wore a suit. His black leather shoes shone. His hair was carefully brushed back. The satiny red tie he wore over a light blue shirt flapped in the breeze.

Hursey faced the racetrack stands. A crowd gathered around. “First of all, I’m a Christian,” Hursey said, his voice rising and falling with a preacher’s practiced cadence. “Second of all, I’m a Republican. And in that order.”

Later the same day, Hursey drove a pickup truck through Elon, shouting “White power!”
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Bynum Baptist Church, where Hursey acknowledged he preaches, is an independent church and not affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention, said Milton A. Hollifield Jr., the executive director and treasurer of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina.

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2020, 12:39:44 am »
Even from a purely aesthetic standpoint, rightists who claim religiosity should be laughed at. Thankfully, this is happening more and more as "religion" and "tradition" cease to be synonymous with one another. Just look at Hursey (Gentile) FFS!:

Note the sloping forehead and receding hairline

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2020, 12:37:40 pm »




Many "Christians" are in for a rude awakening on the day of their judgement if they stay on their current shallow and ridiculously ignorant path....

Most "Christians" cannot even follow the simplest instructions of their supposed prophet:
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He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in. — Jesus

It's pathetic!

I once heard someone say in an interview, "There aren't really that many Christians but you will know when you run into one...".

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2020, 11:16:12 pm »
Trump Supporters: The Bible Should Influence The Supreme Court
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Michael Shure asks Trump supporters about religion in politics.


Trump LAUGHS At His Christian Supporters
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Donald Trump secretly mocks religious supporters.

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Re: Right-left (Judeo-)Christian divergence
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2020, 11:54:13 pm »
This is a useful blog for keeping track of our enemies' ongoing attempt to promote the Orthodox Church. I was just reading this post of theirs:

https://russian-faith.com/culture/having-pets-instead-kids-should-be-considered-psychiatric-disorder-n2777

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Christian musician Nicole Nordeman recently posted an account on Facebook of a couple she overheard at the airport holding a FaceTime call with their “baby” and his “grandparents.”

“They are cooing and gushing and exclaiming ‘well look at YOU, big boy! So big! So handsome! Are you being so good for Nana???’” These “parents” pester their own parents with questions about baby’s feeding, pooping, and playtime, and “nearly collapse with joy” when “baby” comes back on screen for a last goodbye. “Mommy and Daddy love you,” the couple squeal. “You are the best boy! We’re coming home so soon!”

Nordeman says she turned around to sneak a look at this sweet baby who’s so beloved by his parents, only to find…a yellow Labrador retriever.

How much embarrassment must it bring those “grandparents” to participate in such a call? How badly must they want real grandchildren, instead of pet-sitting an attention-smothered dog? How much grief must they feel watching their child waste her parental instincts on an animal while they’re forced to play along in the couple’s sick and disturbing charade?
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But there’s a more serious and long-lasting consequence of millennials’ choice to substitute babies with animals, even temporarily: They aren’t getting around to actually having babies.

In other words, do what the Tanakh teaches, not what Jesus teaches.

And then there's the Gentile blood memory thrown in:

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I suspect dogs hate owners who treat them this way. They don’t want to be pushed around in a carriage, sung to sleep, or sent to daycare. They don’t want to be your surrogate infant. They want to be your pack-mate—your hunting companion. They want to chase down something in the woods and rip its still-beating heart out, together. They are, after all, descended from wolves.

We have instincts to raise children. Well, guess what? Dogs have instincts, too. “…the bloodlust, the joy to kill,” writes Jack London in “Call of the Wild.” “—all this was Buck’s…He was raging at the head of the pack, running the wild thing down, the living meat, to kill with his own teeth and wash his muzzle to the eyes in warm blood.”

This is what they call "Christianity".....
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