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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2021, 01:18:33 am »
My statement applies whether or not lab grown meat is sentient.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2021, 01:22:32 am »
I should have rephrased: do you believe there is any cruelty at all in consuming lab-grown meat? That was why I was confused about you using "less cruel" instead of "not cruel".

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2021, 02:16:14 am »
Oh! I thought you were suggesting that it was just as cruel!

I recommend assuming the worst. At the very least, sustainable production of lab grown meat would imply preservation of all the DNA of the species involved, which means they are not out of danger. Who knows what will happen in future if someone decides to do other things with the DNA?

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2021, 02:30:35 am »
I agree. Those who are willing to grow animal tissue will sooner or later grow the animal itself, so they can exploit it for their own selfish needs (e.g. cloning).
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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2021, 09:31:17 pm »
I'm not going to post links because I don't want to give them extra clicks, but a type of YouTube video that I have found disgusting is when Western parents/pet owners do experiments on their offspring/pets to see how their pets will react to various stimuli (and record the reaction to upload to make money).

Another type of video that I find disgusting is predatory animals subduing and consuming prey species. This apparently excites Westerners who call these videos "super cool" and "nature in action".  I on the other hand find such videos sadistic and instinctively want to kill the predator.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2021, 10:26:42 am »
At least Westerners haven't tried taking this "thought experiment":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

And made it a real life experiment - yet...

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2021, 12:34:16 pm »
Climate change, capitalism and disease are threatening to strike a mortal blow to the world's rubber trees. Do we need to find alternative sources of rubber before it's too late?
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Natural rubber is a uniquely tough, flexible and highly waterproof material. It puts tyres on our vehicles, soles on our shoes, it makes seals for engines and refrigerators, insulates wires and other electrical components. It is used in condoms and clothing, sports balls and the humble elastic bands. Over the past year it has played a pivotal role in the pandemic in personal protective equipment worn by doctors and nurses around the world.

In fact, rubber is deemed to be a commodity of such global importance that it is included on the EU's list of critical raw materials.

Unfortunately, there are signs the world might be running out of natural rubber. Disease, climate change and plunging global prices have put the world's rubber supplies into jeopardy. It has led scientists to search for a solution before it's too late.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20210308-rubber-the-wonder-material-we-are-running-out-of?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2021, 02:35:38 am »
Agent Smith on sustainability:
https://youtu.be/JrBdYmStZJ4

Ever wonder why they went out of their way to make Smith the bad guy (even going so far as to have an actor with a non-Aryan phenotype play him)? Because they knew red-pill junkies would take the story at face value, and Aryans would be too late to decipher the story's true meaning. Coupled with Agent Smith's motive of wanting to destroy "Zion", the parallels with today's world are simply too much to be a coincidence. Seriously, what do you think?
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2021, 10:08:55 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/italians-caught-police-tucking-clandestine-112736331.html

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a group of Italian public officials are being investigated after being caught tucking into a bacchanalian feast of protected songbirds.
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More than 60 birds were found by Carabinieri officers – around three tiny bodies for each diner.
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Eating diminutive songbirds may not appeal to many people but it is seen as a delicacy in some parts of Europe.

Gourmets in France are notorious for their love of eating ortolan buntings, tiny birds which are captured alive, fed grain, drowned in a vat of Armagnac and then roasted whole.

Diners drape their heads with linen napkins as they crunch their way through the birds’ bones.

The napkin is to preserve the aroma of the roasted birds – and, it is said, to hide the diners’ shame from the eyes of God.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #40 on: April 26, 2021, 10:46:25 pm »
https://newrepublic.com/article/114621/national-parks-popular-white-people-not-minorities-why

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White people simply love to spend their free time walking up and down mountains and sleeping in the forest. Search "hiking" in Google Images and see how far you have to scroll to find a nonwhite person. Ditto rock climbing, kayaking, canoeing, and so on. That white people love the outdoors is so widely accepted as fact that it's become a running joke. The website Stuff White People Like has no less than three entries on the subject: "Making you feel bad about not going outside" (#9), "Outdoor Performance Clothes" (#87), and "Camping" (#128). The latter entry reads, "If you find yourself trapped in the middle of the woods without electricity, running water, or a car you would likely describe that situation as a 'nightmare' or 'a worse case scenario like after plane crash or something.' White people refer to it as 'camping.'"
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Many white Americans who grew up going to the parks had towering figures of outdoor history — not to mention family tradition — blazing the trail as examples. And those examples, like Daniel Boone and the fur trappers of the Old West, tended to be white.
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As Stuff White People Like says, "In theory camping should be a very inexpensive activity since you are literally sleeping on the ground. But as with everything in white culture, the more simple it appears the more expensive it actually is." You may need to fly to your destination; otherwise, you'll need a car and a full tank of gas. A backpack, tent, and the necessary gear will run you at least $1,000. And then you need some free time—which, if you work two jobs, you probably don't have. That may explain why 40 percent of outdoor participants come from households with incomes of $75,000 or more, according to the Outdoor Foundation's report.

Rightists frequently claim that "whites" care more about the environment. They seem to think that deriving pleasure from activities in wild habitats is the same thing as caring for the environment. (Similarly, keeping non-human species from going extinct (in order that humans can enjoy their existence) by violently forcing them to reproduce is not caring for non-humans.) If anything, the opposite is the case. I personally avoid hiking etc. in order to minimize the chances of accidentally stepping on innocent victims in the process. If for some reason I had to hike, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it anyway because I would constantly be looking down at the ground and worrying about stepping on an innocent victim. In other words, the very psychological capacity for enjoying hiking is already sufficient evidence of their lack of care for those who might be impacted by it.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #41 on: April 29, 2021, 12:52:57 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCO1NaM7WVc

Ignore Kasparian's stupidity about "endangered species", which is part of the problem. If all endangered species had been allowed to go extinct (as would have been the case in absence of Western civilization), there wouldn't even have been an elephant for LaPierre to shoot in the first place.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #42 on: May 03, 2021, 01:02:37 am »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyzdP4aHVFw

Remember that if Western civilization had never existed, this would not be happening.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2021, 10:19:49 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/oklahoma-state-university-bull-rider-111517917.html

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An Oklahoma State University college student has died after being bucked off of his bull during a bull riding competition in Texas.

What is with Westerners torturing cows for entertainment?



Of course the Old World version is even worse:



Madrid's matadors return to the bullring:
https://youtu.be/2IDGXGxmhVs


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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2021, 10:22:26 pm »
"Madrid's matadors return to the bullring:"

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