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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« on: July 03, 2020, 01:17:20 am »
OLD CONTENT contd.

www.yahoo.com/news/trump-expected-allow-commercial-fishing-151704077.html

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Donald Trump announced on Friday he will open up a 5,000 square mile conservation area in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of New England to commercial fishing.

The move allows commercial fishing to resume in the Northeast Canyons and Seamounts Marine National Monument, a sanctuary created in 2016 during the Obama administration. It also cancels a planned phase out of red crab and lobster fisheries in the area.

It's not just Trump who is at fault here for allowing fishing to resume, but also Obama for temporarily halting it so that victim populations were given time to build up. The two together enable the cycle of violence to be sustainable indefinitely. Hunting a species to extinction once and for all is infinitely less cruel than hunting it to the brink, then pulling back to allow recovery, then hunting again, without end. The latter is the Western way.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGatAW4oFYU

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"Being Carnivorous Part 1"

www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/becoming-carnivorous-part-i/

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I have been on the Carnivore Diet for about six weeks now. In case you don’t know, this is the anti-vegan, all-meat diet. It is being touted for health reasons, but is far more interesting for the personalities and politics behind it. Really, this just ought to be called the Dissident Right Diet.

Well, they pretty much just admitted it themselves I guess. No point in hiding your atrocious dietary habits that will create a whole host of problems.

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No prizes for guessing what our enemies are calling veganism now:

www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/dietary-marxism/

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Even before delving into Carnivore culture, I had suspected that it was going to be crypto-right-wing. I was wrong, however — but only about the “crypto.”
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Further, what if veganism is actually a one-way ticket to disease and even madness? It is when Carnivore and vegan collide that the political aspects of diet are brought out in bold relief. It is also when the Carnivore lifestyle begins to look like something much more than a prescription for healthy eating. It begins to look, in fact, like a political reaction against limp, soy boy effeminacy and the entire worldview that makes it possible.

As you might imagine, vegans are ever so slightly “triggered” by the Carnivore Diet. If ever they needed an archenemy, a Blofeld or a Lex Luthor, they found it in Shawn Baker. Baker is, in fact, the very embodiment of everything that is hated and despised by the sort of people who are drawn to veganism. He is a jock. He is ex-military. He is a powerlifter. He eats four pounds of beef a day and isn’t shedding any tears over Bossy the Cow. “Yes, it’s harsh to talk about animals as food,” Baker writes, “but ultimately that is what they are.” And if we go way, way back (in time and in the dark depths of the vegan soul) he is the guy who called them “fag” in the fifth grade and ridiculed their unprepossessing manhood when it got exposed after gym class. Their entire outlook on life is founded in ressentiment against the Shawn Bakers of this world.

I would also like to mention how my bullies used to try to sneak bits of meat into my school lunches when they thought I wasn't looking.

This is the photo of Baker our enemies included:



Note the primitive facial structure.

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At first, Baker was delighted to debate with vegans. But what followed was predictable:

Soon I realized that these people were completely invested in an ideology and would not be swayed no matter what facts were presented to them. I quickly found that when I asked, “Would you eat meat if it would improve your health?” the answer was always, “No!” To me, this response indicated complete irrationality; I muted and eventually blocked these people on social media because interacting with them became a huge waste of time and energy.

Because there exists something called ethics, something which Baker is evidently too primitive to understand.

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And then, right on cue . . . (wait for it, wait for it): “More and more vegans started attacking me; some even compared me to Satan and Hitler.” Of course, the irony of comparing Baker to Hitler is completely lost on these people: Hitler was a fanatical vegetarian.

So are our enemies calling Hitler a "Marxist" now?

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Baker’s analysis of veganism suggests that there is a high correlation between the diet and insanity. Of course, here we face a chicken and egg problem: did veganism drive them mad, or did madness lead them to choose veganism? I would suggest that it’s a bit of both: veganism tends to dramatically worsen the mental state of the fragile, life-denying weaklings who are attracted to it. (There are even vegans so insane they’ve tried to force the diet on their cats and dogs.)

And killing animals for their meat doesn't involve force?

Whereas feeding an animal vegan food is simply not requiring another animal to be killed in order to feed the first animal. It is a reduction of violence.

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Baker features a clip of a young Asian-American vegan who has smeared herself with feces.
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Baker’s comment about this wacko is priceless: “Okay, if you wake up in the morning and decide you want to cover your body and face in feces, clearly something is not right. I don’t know how many steaks it would take to fix this person, but it’s going to be a lot.”

Between smearing oneself in faeces (which is at least non-violent) and killing innocent animals (which is violent), which is worse?

Finally, regarding the stupidity of the term "dietary Marxism" itself:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx#Health

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Marx was fond of highly seasoned dishes, smoked fish, caviare

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And they are doubling down:

www.counter-currents.com/2020/06/the-politics-of-meat-dietary-anti-marxism/

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If veganism is dietary Marxism, is the Carnivore movement dietary anti-Marxism? I think that the answer is yes. Indeed, the whole Carnivore subculture smells deliciously Right-wing — like a perfectly grilled ribeye steak.
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Carnivore is also born of a viscerally negative reaction to the shrill, brittle weakness of vegan lefties. “Anything but that!” the diet seems to be saying, and so we are literally enjoined to do the exact opposite of veganism.
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An observer from a distant planet might think that while vegans are out to save the animals, the Carnivores are the guardians of the plant kingdom. Actually, Carnivores just don’t give a damn that something had to die in order to feed them — which is their real rebellion against veganism. Baker’s attitude, and the attitude of all the Carnivores, is that life is impossible without killing. The vegans are slaughtering vegetables, but for them, that doesn’t count because they claim to know that plants are not “sentient beings.” Years ago, Joseph Campbell exposed the self-deception of this when he defined a vegetarian as “a person who is not sensitive enough to hear a tomato scream."

No (I have actually treated plants as sentient beings ever since childhood), what makes veganism less violent is that we eat plants directly whereas non-vegans must use a larger quantity of plants to feed the animals which they themselves then eat, because the longer the food chain, the more thermodynamically inefficient it is. So even comparing only the quantity of plants killed, vegans kill many times fewer plants than non-vegans to procure the same food energy. (And on top of this the non-vegans kill the animals as well!)

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aryanism.net/wp-content/uploads/Energy-waste.jpg

Furthermore, vegans who follow the Aryan diet based primarily on cereals do not kill the cereal plants, as the cereal plants are allowed go through their full life cycle in peace prior to being harvested (which is why the fields are yellow during harvest - the plants have already died on their own):

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As for the supposed "screaming tomato", picking ripe fruit does not hurt the tree (the reason why tomatoes turn red after ripening is to make them easier to spot and be picked; contrast this with animals who try to camouflage to avoid being spotted and hunted):

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my favorite Carnivore guru, hands down, is a guy named Tristan Haggard who operates a website and a YouTube channel called Primal Edge Health. Tristan lives somewhere in the backwoods of Ecuador with his wife Jessica and two children. They raise and slaughter their own food, and Jessica is the author of The Carnivore Cookbook. Tristan, who is a convert to Eastern Orthodoxy