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Avena_sativa

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Re: Black Hammer
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2021, 10:50:02 am »
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All in all, Black Hammer leaves me with the impression that its main task is to siphon away support from the Democrats, thereby weakening the Squad as well as strengthening the Republicans (and thus, at least by proxy, Trump and Russia). Unless they adjust these points asap, they should be classed as an enemy organization.
After reading the interview linked in your post, I agree with this assessment that BH might be better classed as an enemy organization. I sent an additional message to the member who tried to recruit me with a link to that same interview, and I deconstructed the foreign policy issues present in that interview for her, emphasizing the broader truth that identitarian countries are the avowed enemies of all anti-racist, anti-colonial, liberation movements as opposed to simply “weapons” that more powerful states use against them. I also included a statement similar to your final statement where I said that domestic struggle against identitarianism in the context of the US involves projecting power onto the leftist (ie True Leftist) elements of the Democratic Party, as opposed to siphoning power away.

The Black Hammer member appears to have blocked me after receiving this message.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2021, 09:57:04 pm by Avena_sativa »

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Re: Black Hammer
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2021, 12:16:24 pm »
I agree l, but I will say their "anti-Whitenesss" sets them apart from other False Leftists such as Abby Martin. I wish we had a neutral "players" section as we did on the previous forum where we could put people like Black Hammer.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2021, 02:18:32 pm by rp »

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Re: Black Hammer
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2021, 03:00:56 pm »
I wish we had a neutral "players" section as we did on the previous forum where we could put people like Black Hammer.

I disagree. The fact that they're playing into the hands of the Republicans, Trump and Russia and their unwillingness to adjust their stance when confronted with our arguments (just like kameradbaren) really leaves no doubt that they belong in the "enemy"-category.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2021, 04:37:12 pm by Dazhbog »

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Re: Black Hammer
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2021, 09:48:11 pm »
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their unwillingness to adjust their stance when confronted with our arguments

To be fair, I would like to point out that this was the behavior of one member. I do not believe she held any leadership roles in the group (but I could be wrong about that). In general, I was not familiar with Black Hammer other than its main propaganda account and “Reparations Corps” account on Twitter, so I am not sure how their organization operates with respect to uniformity in the attitudes/behaviors of their members. Because of this, if another Black Hammer member were to reach out to me in the future, I would certainly view them with more suspicion than I initially viewed the member who attempted to recruit me, but I also probably would not treat them as an enemy until they demonstrate similar behavior.

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Re: Black Hammer
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2021, 08:27:20 pm »
I am not sure how their organization operates with respect to uniformity in the attitudes/behaviors of their members.

Now that you bring it up, given their pro-democracy stance and their egalitarian leanings, they likely don't follow the leadership principle. Therefore, there actually is a chance that Gazi Kodzo's personal Duginist views aren't integral to the group's ideological platform. In this light, it seems indeed fair to not class them as enemies as long as we don't know how widespread these views really are among its members and whether they can be changed or not.
« Last Edit: May 26, 2021, 08:36:27 pm by Dazhbog »