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British Left Entryism
« on: November 02, 2021, 06:22:38 pm »
Considering the current state of the British Labour party, I believe it would be a waste of time to try and push it left again. So many leftists have abandoned the party, and it's now under complete control of zionists again. I don't believe we could get another Corbyn on that platform. The Green party is completely hopeless. We have a number of small left wing parties but the majority are Marxist. There are a couple of anarchist organisations too. Would it be more useful to start over, or gain entry to one of the false left parties? I am not a leader, I work better as a follower.

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Re: British Left Entryism
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2021, 09:03:21 pm »
"So many leftists have abandoned the party, and it's now under complete control of zionists again. I don't believe we could get another Corbyn on that platform."

Our ally Salma Yaqoob is still in Labour. In fact I will take this opportunity to provisionally repost here the thread from the old forum that we had for her:

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www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/calls-for-labour-to-expel-candidate-salma-yaqoob-who-shared-article-on-rothschild-bankers-1.490670

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The Board of Deputies has urged Labour to “immediately” expel one of its prospective candidates for the West Midlands mayoralty, after she was found to have repeated comments about “Rothschild bankers” and described Israelis as “European colonisers”.

Salma Yaqoob, a founder and former leader of the far-left Respect Party, was allowed to join Labour four months ago, despite running a notorious campaign in the 2017 general election against a Labour MP, Naz Shah.
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Ms Yaqoob is vying to be the party's candidate in the West Midlands despite new members of Labour usually having to wait for two years before being allowed to stand.

She has received support from a number of high-profile Labour activists, including Jon Lansman, the head of Momentum, and Owen Jones, the Guardian journliast and activist.

Other prominent Labour figures, including Naz Shah herself, have spoken out against Ms Yaqoob’s candidacy.

In a video released by the Bradford West MP, she described how how the campaign Ms Yaqoob ran against her two years ago had driven her “to feel suicidal”.

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7617909/Jeremy-Corbyn-fresh-anti-Semitism-storm-defending-controversial-hard-Left-Labour-candidate.html

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Jeremy Corbyn was at the centre of a fresh anti-Semitism storm last night after defending a controversial hard-Left Labour candidate who his own MPs want expelled from the party.
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Last night, this newspaper confronted the Labour leader after unearthing a video of Mr Corbyn describing Yaqoob as a 'hero' and 'a fantastic activist' in 2013. But rather than distance himself from the growing row, Mr Corbyn's team defended his comments and heaped fresh praise on her.

Mr Corbyn's spokesman said: 'Of course Jeremy praised Salma Yaqoob in 2013 for her years of work on anti-war and anti-austerity campaigns. Those campaigns have been vindicated.'

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/rebecca-long-bailey-refuses-to-back-salma-yaqoob-momentums-choice-for-west-midlands-mayor-8pfkgkf92

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Rebecca Long Bailey has moved to distance herself from a controversial Corbynite candidate being lined up by the left to become Labour’s first mayor of the West Midlands.

The shadow business secretary and Labour leadership candidate yesterday received the backing of the powerful Unite union that helped propel Jeremy Corbyn to power five years ago.

Amid further signs of division in her campaign, Ms Long Bailey declined to endorse Salma Yaqoob as the party’s candidate in the May election.

The failure to back Ms Yaqoob is a significant snub as she is being backed by the Corbynite grassroots group Momentum as well as Unite, both of which are also backing Ms Long Bailey.

www.jewishpress.com/news/global/uk/most-labour-candidates-race-to-demonstrate-pro-jewish-bonafides/2020/01/30/

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Yaqoob has faced repeated allegations of being anti-Semitic for saying that Zionists “abused the memory of the Holocaust to bolster support for today’s Israeli state and its racist and murderous policies.”

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https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/battle-for-labours-soul-entrist-liam-byrne-leftist-salma-yaqoob-west-midlands-mayor-1386154

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Labour faces a battle for the soul of the party on Thursday as members choose its nominee to be the next Mayor of the West Midlands in a forerunner of the leadership election.

A Blair-era minister is up against a left-wing firebrand who has previously stood against Labour because she believed the party was too moderate.

If Liam Byrne wins the nomination, it could be a sign party members are keen on a more centrist direction - a boost for Keir Starmer and Lisa Nandy's hopes of becoming leader later this year.

But if Salma Yaqoob, who is backed by big unions and the Momentum campaign group, is successful it will suggest that activists want to double down on Jeremy Corbyn's radical agenda, which would be good news for Rebecca Long-Bailey.

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https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/labour-left-winger-accuses-starmer-of-capitulation-to-unaffiliated-lobbies-1.499497

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Labour left-winger Salma Yaqoob has accused her party of “capitulation to unaffiliated lobbies of extreme right wing governments” - and claimed she and two MPs were criticised after taking part in a Zoom conference with people expelled from the Labour Party over antisemitism because they had dared to ‘”stand for Palestinian rights.”

In an extraordinary outburst on social media, Ms Yaqoob, who was beaten by Liam Byrne in the contest to be the party’s West Midlands mayoral candidate, also claimed organisations such as the “Board of Deputies and the Campaign Against Antisemitism have not hidden their goal of obliterating ‘Corbynism’.”

In an attack on current Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer, she said: “Seeking to win the approval of such hostile groups instead of calling them out is naive at best and a huge political misjudgement at worst. We have lost so much as a result.”

In a Twitter thread, the former Respect Party parliamentary candidate wrote: “I understand the dismay of Labour members at the clear sabotage, bullying and racism revealed in the Labour leaks report.”

She added: “But don’t give the Right what they want by giving up. It’s time to fight back.

“We should be on the front foot. In the wider movement as well as inside the Party. And we must refuse to internalise the frame & censorship they have tried to impose on us.”
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“We are not the first targets. And if Left continues prioritising ‘optics’ over solidarity politics, we will not be the last.”

END OF OLD CONTENT

Perhaps you should contact her and find out if she is still waiting for a chance to recapture Labour. If so, then you may wish to consider helping her. If not, then you may be able to at least hear what her next plans are and help her with those instead. Or it may turn out that she can point you towards someone else who could use your help.

"The Green party is completely hopeless."

Now if any is the time to place hope in it given the increasing success of Greens elsewhere:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/news/green-wave/

which it may be able to piggyback off. In terms of policy positions, it doesn't look too bad:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_England_and_Wales#Foreign_policy_and_defence

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The party has opposed the invasion of Iraq, NATO-led military intervention in Libya[102] and British involvement in Saudi Arabian-led intervention in Yemen.[103]

The party campaigns for the rights of indigenous people around the world and argues for greater autonomy for these individuals. Furthermore, they support the granting of compensation and justice for historical wrongs, and that the reappropriation of lands and resources should be granted to certain nations and peoples.
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Amid the toughening rhe

toric surrounding immigration at the 2015 general election, the Greens issued mugs emblazoned with the slogan "Standing Up For Immigrants".[104] They claimed to offer a "genuine alternative" to the views of the mainstream parties by promoting the removal of restrictions on the number of foreign students, abolishing rules on family migration, and promoting further rights for asylum seekers.[87]

"small left wing parties"

It is unfortunate that Respect deregistered:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_Party#2015%E2%80%9316:_general_election_and_de-registration

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The Respect Party "voluntarily deregistered" from the Electoral Commission's Register of Political Parties on 18 August 2016, twelve years after it initially registered.[122][123]

Perhaps you could discuss with Yaqoob the possibility of reviving it?

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Re: British Left Entryism
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2021, 04:08:24 pm »
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Our ally Salma Yaqoob is still in Labour.

I will seek her out. If she is planning to take back the party, she will need enough support from party members to challenge the zionists. It might be possible to bring back former Corbynists, however many have become uninspired and pessimistic. The Green Party could also be an option.

I do wish to ask: how do we wake up leftists to the reality of the Jew? While I believe some corbynists had some inkling, many were in denial. If you try and approach them head on, they'll call you an 'anti-semite' (has happened to me a few times) and keep harping on about how "judaism ≠ zionism".

Also: I do have a wide range of digital media skills. I know video editing and website design and can create posters, leaflets etc. If you need me for any of these let me know.

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Re: British Left Entryism
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2021, 09:53:02 pm »
"how do we wake up leftists to the reality of the Jew?"

Jews must not be allowed to get away with claiming to be "non-white" (ie. victims of Western colonialism):

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/

Instead, the truth that they are among the biggest winners of the colonial era must be highlighted:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/anti-zionist-harvest-au-edition/

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/jews-give-up-pretending-to-be-anti-racist/

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/a-jew-complains-about-us/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/the-suez-canal/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg5527/?topicseen#msg5527

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg5164/?topicseen#msg5164

etc. etc. (please use the search function)

whereupon all colonialist-condemning propaganda that most leftists are already familiar with suddenly applies doubly to Jews.

"they'll call you an 'anti-semite'"

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/stop-calling-anti-jewishness-anti-semitism/

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Why is it always “proudly Jewish” (never “proudly Semitic”), but then always “anti-Semitic” (never “anti-Jewish”)? What is going on with this switching of self-identifier depending on context? Specifically, why do Jews self-identify as Jews when taking credit, but as “Semites” (not even the narrower “Hebrews” who are at least overwhelmingly Jewish (Hebrew being the official language of Israel), but the much broader “Semites” among whom Jews are a small minority) when complaining about being attacked (including, absurdly, when the attackers are Semites)?
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If “anti-Jewish” were used, people could simply ask: “What’s so wrong about being anti-Jewish? Judaism is racist! Do not all anti-racists automatically have a moral duty to be anti-Jewish?” This is why Jews insisted on using the term “anti-Semitic”: to ensure that the mainstream reaction to an accusation of anti-Semitism is denial of being anti-Semitic (since indeed there is no good reason to be opposed to speakers of Semitic languages for speaking Semitic languages) which creates an artificial consensus that anti-Semitism (which Jews then surreptitiously switch to meaning anti-Jewishness) is so indefensible that even anti-Semites themselves always deny being anti-Semitic. This then dissuades observers from feeling any need to study what is behind hostility towards Jews, instead dismissing it as nonsensical.

If Jews want a sincere debate about whether or not it is justified to be anti-Jewish, we are ready to take them on any day of the week. But as soon as they use the term “anti-Semitic”, they are in effect admitting that it is so self-evidently justified to be anti-Jewish that they must resort to calling it something else in order to persuade low-attention-span people not to join in.

And when this trick is exposed, it makes Jews look even worse, and anti-Jewishness even more irreproachable.

"harping on about how "judaism ≠ zionism"."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zion

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Zion (Hebrew: צִיּוֹן‎ Ṣīyyōn, LXX Σιών, also variously transliterated Sion,[2] Tzion, Tsion, Tsiyyon[3]) is a placename in the Hebrew Bible used as a synonym for Jerusalem[4][5] as well as for the Land of Israel as a whole (see Names of Jerusalem).

Unless they want to claim Judaism has nothing to do with the Tanakh either?

See also:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/reminder-we-exist/

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/anti-zionist-harvest-ucc-edition/

"If you need me for any of these let me know."

You are welcome to create presentations based on any of the information and/or ideas found here, which you can then post on other sites with links back to here.

But in the longer-term you should also choose a topical field to become a specialist in, following which you could apply your media skills to presentation of your own specialist field. The single biggest factor holding back our movement is the unwillingness of most who claim to support it to take the trouble to specialize. After more than a decade of hoping in vain that people would specialize on their own initiative, the real reason why we have switched to a forum format is because I hoped this format would help people gradually discover (via their spontaneous posting patterns) their own topical inclinations and thus what they might most suitably specialize in. So far this has not really been working either.....
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Re: British Left Entryism
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2021, 05:07:56 pm »
If you haven't yet decided on a topical field to become a specialist in, may I suggest you specialize in anti-Duginism?

The British left seems to have a massive Duginist problem. AFAIK, besides Yaqoob, all British leftists I have seen endorsed here or on the old blog in one form or another (Corbyn, Galloway, Roger Waters) have a record of pro-Russian statements and never backtracked on them.

Unfortunately, I still don't have the time to engage in any meaningful activism myself (I hardly even manage to post on the board regularly), however, I'm glad to help you in any way I can. Specifically, you can pm me any time you are confronted with a Duginist argument you don't yet know how to refute yourself and I will come up with a rebuttal. I promise to log on to the forum at least once a day to check if you have messaged me.

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Re: British Left Entryism
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2021, 06:48:32 pm »
Galloway is a lost case who refuses to identify the true culprits behind 9/11. Waters has appeared on Tucker Carlson's (Gentile) show. Corbyn is the only one I have hope for.

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2022, 07:33:45 am »
I promise to log on to the forum at least once a day to check if you have messaged me.

Unfortunately, I likely won't be able to keep up that promise any longer. I will still log on as often as possible though and you can of course still message me, just know that it may take a while for me to reply.

Good luck with your activism and God bless you!

(@90sRetroFan: I have seen that you moved our recent discussions to 'Questions & Debates'. I haven't received any notification on your part of me being banned from the other subforums though, so I assume I am still allowed to post outside that section.)

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2022, 08:26:38 pm »
"I assume I am still allowed to post outside that section"

Yes. I hope to read more from you around all the forums.
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