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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2022, 03:21:17 pm »
'A hacker is not necessarily the same person as the coder.'
Ah. Say no more.

'You are illiterate.'
Not really a good idea to insult the guy who's doing all the work for you. Just sayin'. And for your information, I'm not illiterate, I'm autistic. I process information differently from big-brained neurotypicals like yourself. If you can't tell the difference between autism and illiteracy, then you have my pity.

The proper changes have been made to the document. You can continue your examination now.
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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2022, 04:42:29 pm »
"I'm autistic."

Autism is a Western concept. We are here to destroy Western civilization.

"The proper changes have been made to the document. You can continue your examination now."

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Ayat 96-98: '96. Indeed, those against whom Allah’s decree of torment is justified will not believe— 97. even if every sign were to come to them—until they see the painful punishment. 98. If only there had been a society which believed before seeing the torment and, therefore, benefited from its belief, like the people of Jonah. When they believed, We lifted from them the torment of disgrace in this world and allowed them enjoyment for a while.’

Why not only 98?

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Ayat 83-98: ‘83. They ask you O Prophet about Ⱬul-Qarnain. Say, “I will relate to you something of his narrative.” 84. Surely We established him in the land, and gave him the means to all things. 85. So he traveled a course, 86. until he reached the setting point of the sun, which appeared to him to be setting in a spring of murky water, where he found some people. We said, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Either punish them or treat them kindly.” 87. He responded, “Whoever does wrong will be punished by us, then will be returned to their Lord, Who will punish them with a horrible torment. 88. As for those who believe and do good, they will have the finest reward, and we will assign them easy commands.” 89. Then he traveled a different course 90. until he reached the rising point of the sun. He found it rising on people for whom We had provided no shelter from it. 91. So it was. And We truly had full knowledge of him. 92. Then he traveled a third course 93. until he reached a pass between two mountains. He found in front of them a people who could hardly understand his language. 94. They pleaded, “O Ⱬul-Qarnain! Surely Gog and Magog are spreading corruption throughout the land. Should we pay you tribute, provided that you build a wall between us and them?” 95. He responded, “What my Lord has provided for me is far better. But assist me with resources, and I will build a barrier between you and them. 96. Bring me blocks of iron!” Then, when he had filled up the gap between the two mountains, he ordered, “Blow!” When the iron became red hot, he said, “Bring me molten copper to pour over it.” 97. And so the enemies could neither scale nor tunnel through it. 98. He declared, “This is a mercy from my Lord. But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will level it to the ground. And my Lord’s promise is ever true.”’

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Re: Drafting up a Jamia
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2022, 05:10:16 pm »
Ⱬul-Qarnain is theorized by many scholars to be Alexander the Great.
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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2022, 05:15:14 pm »
Please follow procedure. We are currently only removing Judaic verses.

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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2022, 05:15:42 pm »
'Autism is a Western concept. We are here to destroy Western civilization.'
So that gives you an excuse to call people who process information differently from other people 'illiterate.'
National Socialism ≠ Nazism

Aryan ≠ 'White'.

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History is written by the victors.

The truth fears no investigation.

(He) who controls the past controls the future; (he) who controls the present controls the past.

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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2022, 08:06:20 pm »
Please follow procedure. We are currently only removing Judaic verses.
Done.
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« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2022, 09:58:49 pm »
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Ayat 16-19: ‘16. We did not create the heavens and the earth and everything in between for sport. 17. Had We intended to take some amusement, We could have found it in Our presence, if that had been Our Will. 18. In fact, We hurl the truth against falsehood, leaving it crushed, and it quickly vanishes. And woe be to you for what you claim!

Why not only 16?

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Ayat 58-63: ‘58. As for those who emigrate in the cause of Allah and then are martyred or die, Allah will indeed grant them a good provision. Surely Allah is the Best Provider. 59. He will certainly admit them into a place they will be pleased with. For Allah is truly All-Knowing, Most Forbearing. 60. That is so. And whoever retaliates in equivalence to the injury they have received, and then are wronged again, Allah will certainly help them. Surely Allah is Ever-Pardoning, All-Forgiving. 61. That is because Allah causes the night to merge into the day, and the day into the night. Indeed, Allah is All-Hearing, All-Seeing. 62. That is because Allah alone is the Truth and what they invoke besides Him is falsehood, and Allah alone is truly the Most High, All-Great.’

Why not only 61?

This seems to be a recurring problem. Please check for other cases throughout the document where you have removed excessive text surrounding the verse requiring removal and adjust accordingly.


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« Reply #52 on: August 31, 2022, 09:52:25 am »
Done, though there are some lines of excessive text I could not remove due to the verses sometimes divvying up a complete sentence (e.g. Surah 95:1-3).
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« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2022, 05:51:35 pm »
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Ayat 31-32: ‘31. To Allah alone belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth so that He may reward the evildoers according to what they did, and reward the good-doers with the finest reward— 32. those who avoid major sins and shameful deeds, despite stumbling on minor sins. Surely your Lord is infinite in forgiveness. He knew well what would become of you as He created you from the earth and while you were still fetuses in the wombs of your mothers. So do not falsely elevate yourselves. He knows best who is truly righteous.’

Why not only 32?

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Ayat 6-12. ‘6. And as for ’Ȃd, they were destroyed by a furious, bitter wind 7. which Allah unleashed on them non-stop for seven nights and eight days, so that you would have seen its people lying dead like trunks of uprooted palm trees. 8. Do you see any of them left alive?

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« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2022, 06:45:44 pm »
'Why not only 32?'
It wouldn't be a complete sentence if I removed verse 31.

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The Adites aren't mentioned in the Tanakh, but the prophet Hud is speculated to be Eber, an ancestor of the Israelites. It's showing how Hud was a Judaic prophet who was sent to the people of 'Ad and how they were wiped out for worshipping false gods.
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(He) who controls the past controls the future; (he) who controls the present controls the past.

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« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2022, 07:06:21 pm »
"It wouldn't be a complete sentence if I removed verse 31."

31 is the one I am saying should be in the final version of the Jamia, which should read:

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To Allah alone belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth so that He may reward the evildoers according to what they did, and reward the good-doers with the finest reward

This is a complete sentence. What matters is that the final version of the Jamia is in complete sentences! The document containing the removed verses does not need to be in complete sentences!

"The Adites aren't mentioned in the Tanakh, but the prophet Hud is speculated to be Eber, a descendant of the Israelites. It's showing how Hud was a Judaic prophet who was sent to the people of 'Ad and how they were wiped out for worshipping false gods."

Even if Hud was Eber, Eber is not a prophet in Judaism. Strictly speaking, he is not even an Israelite, since the first Israelite was Jacob (Abraham's grandson), whom Eber preceded by many generations:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eber

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Eber was a great-grandson of Noah's son Shem and the father of Peleg, born when Eber was 34 years old,[1] and of Joktan. He was the son of Shelah, a distant ancestor of Abraham.

Moreover, even Israelites, so long as they not regarded as prophets in Judaism (e.g. Jesus), are acceptable to us.

Please go through the document and remove also other verses mentioning Hud (unless Judaic prophets are also mentioned).
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« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2022, 07:38:40 pm »
Done - any and all mentions of 'Ad and Hud have either been removed or disemboldened.
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« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2022, 09:28:01 pm »
"any and all mentions of 'Ad and Hud have either been removed or disemboldened."

Why have these not been removed?

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38. And the people of ’Ȃd and Thamûd met a similar fate, which
must be clear to you Meccans from their ruins. Satan made their evil deeds appealing to
them, hindering them from the Right Way, although they were capable of reasoning.

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13. If they turn away, then say, O
Prophet, “I warn you of a mighty blast, like the one that befell ’Ȃd and Thamûd.”’

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« Reply #58 on: August 31, 2022, 09:57:54 pm »
Ah. I thought it would be best to leave those in for some reason, since they mentioned the people of Thamud, which was specifically mentioned on the old Jamia blog. By the time you respond to this post, they will have been removed. Would you like me to also remove the mentions of Shu'aib (Jethro)?
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« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2022, 10:10:17 pm »
"I thought it would be best to leave those in for some reason, since they mentioned the people of Thamud, which was specifically mentioned on the old Jamia blog."

There is serious confusion here. We are talking about removing them FROM THE CURRENT DOCUMENT that we are working with. Something removed FROM THE CURRENT DOCUMENT is something which WILL APPEAR IN THE EVENTUAL JAMIA. Yet you seem to be talking about removing them FROM THE JAMIA.

Are you following what I am saying? Right now you should have two documents:

1) the stuff we eventually want to keep
2) the stuff we do not eventually want to keep

When I am asking you to "remove" something, I am asking you to remove FROM 2), which means you must cut it out of 2) and then paste it back into 1). Is this what you have been doing so far, or not?