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New Website: thegrail.quest
« on: September 18, 2022, 10:34:01 pm »
@90sRetroFan My new website is finally operational. I still intend to do blogposts (I just uploaded my first one, in fact), but I decided to do a full-fledged site instead of a simple blog, since it's more customizable and provides me with greater scope. I've never created a website before, so this is a stumbling and awkward first attempt, but I'm still proud of what I've typed out so far. The content is what's important, and I can just overhaul the outward appearance later. This website isn't necessarily intended for everyone within the Aryanist political and philosophical sphere. It's more of a subculture within another subculture. The content on the about page is intentionally derivative of some of the terminology on aryanism.net proper, but the rest of the website will have its own character and stand on its own. I wouldn't mind you guys keeping an eye on me, though. And the reason why I'm mentioning it here, is to let you know that I am in fact investing my time and effort into something that I hope will eventually benefit us.

@rp As I said in our PMs, you're more than welcome to join me in running this group, since we can theoretically collaborate in real life. This isn't just going to be an internet thing.
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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2022, 12:06:46 am »
Congratulations on your new site! Here is a BGM to celebrate its launch:



"I wouldn't mind you guys keeping an eye on me, though."

http://thegrail.quest/about/

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it is the pure God essence that makes up our spirit, as we all descend from one source.

Wait, so are you rejecting dualism? And if so:

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•gnostic: Stemming from this, no follower of a creator god can be a genuine ally in the strictest sense. We’ve invaded this realm to undo the Devil’s crea

tion from within.

does "we all" include the creator?

http://thegrail.quest/2022/09/18/calling-all-knights/

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And we will be here forever, as few in number as we may be.”

Unless our enemies find a way to get rid of us, which is entirely possible:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg6698/#msg6698

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Genetic modification technology which already exists will allow scientists or nations to completely eliminate any noble personality traits and replace them with completely slavish ones (once the genes determining various personality traits become discovered).

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/if-western-civilization-does-not-die-soon/msg7995/#msg7995

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Western Civilization has figured out how to brainwash individuals before they're even born:
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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2022, 12:42:46 am »
Thank you for the well wishes and the cool BGM! Your support means a lot

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Wait, so are you rejecting dualism? And if so, does "we all" include the creator?

Definitely not. I'm an absolute dualist, a la Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism. The Devil/Yahweh derives from nobody but itself. Maybe I should clarify that later


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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2023, 08:53:31 pm »
Continuing from:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/the-archetype-of-the-warrior-how-films-help-empower-us-all/msg21153/#msg21153

"I’m willing to try a short clip first"

Since you didn't suggest a particular clip, I will pick one:



You may wish to download the video for working convenience.

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Auntie?

Where are you, Auntie?

Oh ****! Auntie!

Where have you gone, Auntie?

Please answer me, Auntie!

Auntie, are you in here?

Woah!

Oh it's you, Auntie! So good to see you again!

I was so frightened just now!

What were you frightened of?

I was afraid that you had abandoned me here because you didn't care about me anymore.

I already told you that I intend to spend my whole life in the catacombs.

So how would I abandon you?

That's true.

Follow me.

Where to, Auntie?

I'm going to teach you martial arts.

Teach me martial arts? Great!

What the...

I hope you don't mean to tell me that you want me to train in there?

I absolutely mean to tell you that you will be training inside this cage.

What?!

Guo, catch this bird.

OK, Auntie, I seriously need a breather before continuing. I'm totally out of breath.

You've only been training for an hour and you're tired already?

You think you can achieve success in martial arts with this attitude?

But Auntie, I've been here two days now and have had nothing to eat except honey.

No rice, no meat, nothing.

I'm a rice person. Even if you fed me ginseng every day I'd still starve!

So you're saying you have to eat rice.

Are you saying you and Granny Sun don't eat rice?

It's not that we don't eat rice, it's just that ever since Granny Sun died, we don't have anyone to cook the rice.

What?! So you had rice here all along?! You should have told me earlier! You may not know how to cook it, but I do!

Not bad at all.

What did you expect?

To be honest, I wasn't even giving it my full effort.

As the saying goes, a cook is limited by the available ingredients.

Too bad down here in the catacombs we don't have poultry or any other meat.

So as much as I want to prepare a richer meal for you, I have nothing to apply my cooking skills on.

All practitioners of our style of martial arts must purify our sensual desires.

So we can only eat vegetarian food. That means no meat allowed.

Oh come on, Auntie! I mean sure, occasional vegetarian meals are a good way to detox, but if every meal has to be vegetarian, won't your mouth end up numb?

Ever since childhood I've been fine with plain rice and tea. You don't have to worry about pleasuring my palate.

You'd be better off focusing on your training.

Precisely because of your dedication to teaching me, not only do I promise to train diligently, but moreover I insist on cooking for you the best dishes possible to express my appreciation for you.

Please post the timestamped version in your reply. I will then check to see if it works.
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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2023, 11:06:57 pm »
Right now, my process is to have my PC's text editor open, and pause the video whenever audio starts and whenever it ends, to manually type in the time codes during those pauses, and the accompanying English subtitles. Once I'm done, the text file will be saved as an srt file, and then sent back to you. Is that about right, or is there a more efficient way of doing this?

Also, when I'm typing things out, I'm supposed to also record the milliseconds by three digits, but none of the video players I can think of show the milliseconds, much less in three digits. The closest solution I could find was going back to the YouTube page, right clicking the video, and then clicking on "stats for nerds". But that only shows the milliseconds rounded to two digits. I would prefer to do it the "right" way, and I've never done this before, so I don't know if just leaving the third digit as a zero will hinder the finished product in any way. Other than that, I think I'm getting the flow of things

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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2023, 11:22:29 pm »
Okay, I looked at another video on YouTube, and they're not precise with the three digits either. They seem to only measure in seconds and half seconds (so either 000 or 500 for the millisecond field) and that's even less precise than what I'm doing. So I'm assuming that my measurements are close enough and won't affect the subtitles. Feel free to still correct me though, if anything I said above sounded off or non-ideal

Also, holy hell. A bit of a challenge right off the bat. The main character talks so fast in the very beginning. I'm glad I've got that part done now ;D

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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2023, 11:40:19 pm »
"Once I'm done, the text file will be saved as an srt file, and then sent back to you. Is that about right, or is there a more efficient way of doing this?"

Rather than send the file, you can simply copy and paste the entire text in the file straight into a forum post. This is the advantage of working with plain text format.

"milliseconds rounded to two digits"

This should be fine. Even rounded to one digit (ie. the nearest 0.1 second) might be enough. As long as you place yourself in the perspective of a viewer and feel comfortable reading the subtitles as you have timed them, it shouldn't be a problem.

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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2023, 12:56:01 am »
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Auntie? Where are you, Auntie?

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Oh ****! Auntie!

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Where have you gone, Auntie?

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Please answer me, Auntie!

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Auntie, are you in here?

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Woah!

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Oh it's you, Auntie! So good to see you again!

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I was so frightened just now!

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What were you frightened of?

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I was afraid that you had abandoned me here
because you didn't care about me anymore.

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I already told you that I intend to
spend my whole life in the catacombs.

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So how would I abandon you?

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That's true.

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Follow me.

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Where to, Auntie?

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I'm going to teach you martial arts.

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Teach me martial arts? Great!

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What the...

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I hope you don't mean to tell me
that you want me to train in there?

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00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,950
I absolutely mean to tell you that
you will be training inside this cage.

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What?!

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00:01:12,350 --> 00:01:13,950
Guo, catch this bird.

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OK, Auntie, I seriously need a breather
before continuing. I'm totally out of breath.

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You've only been training for an
hour and you're tired already?

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00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,370
You think you can achieve success
in martial arts with this attitude?

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But Auntie, I've been here two days now
and have had nothing to eat except honey.

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No rice, no meat, nothing.

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I'm a rice person. Even if you fed
me ginseng every day I'd still starve!

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So you're saying you have to eat rice.

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00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:13,730
Are you saying you and
Granny Sun don't eat rice?

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It's not that we don't eat rice.

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it's just that ever since Granny Sun died,
we don't have anyone to cook the rice.

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What?! So you had rice here all along?!

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You should have told me earlier! You
may not know how to cook it, but I do!

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Not bad at all.

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What did you expect?

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To be honest, I wasn't even giving
it my full effort.

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As the saying goes, a cook is limited
by the available ingredients.

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00:02:41,550 --> 00:02:44,820
Too bad down here in the catacombs we
don't have poultry or any other meat.

40
00:02:45,220 --> 00:02:49,070
So as much as I want to prepare a richer meal for
you, I have nothing to apply my cooking skills on.

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00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:54,540
All practitioners of our style of martial
arts must purify our sensual desires.

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So we can only eat vegetarian food.
That means no meat allowed.

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Oh come on, Auntie! I mean sure, occasional
vegetarian meals are a good way to detox,

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but if every meal has to be vegetarian,
won't your mouth end up numb?

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00:03:08,490 --> 00:03:11,090
Ever since childhood I've been
fine with plain rice and tea.

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00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,240
You don't have to worry about
pleasuring my palate.

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00:03:15,020 --> 00:03:17,800
You'd be better off focusing
on your training.

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Precisely because of your dedication
to teaching me,

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not only do I promise to train diligently,

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00:03:21,510 --> 00:03:24,280
but moreover I insist on cooking for you the best
dishes possible to express my appreciation for you.

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Re: New Website: thegrail.quest
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2023, 01:00:28 am »
"But if every meal has to be vegetarian, won't your mouth end up numb?"

You should ask the made-of-plant seasonings that you put in your meat dishes, protagonist ;D

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2023, 01:22:11 am »
Well done! I think you have the gist of it. As this is just a trial run, I suppose we can waive polishing the timing and word layout, something which we would do for a real project.

So, if you intend to continue, the next thing to do is to decide which series to work on. Do you have a preference?

Another thing requiring decision is naming convention. Should we go with subtitles that reflect the names of characters, places, etc. as the actors themselves are pronouncing them, or as standardized in mainstream references (e.g. Wikipedia)? I personally feel partial towards the former, but admittedly this would make our subs intentionally unconventional.

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2023, 02:03:06 am »
“Do you have a preference?”

My preference is your preference, at least in this context. I’ve never seen any of these, and your recommendations for media are the most valuable to me at the moment. If you recommend something, then I’m obligated to watch or play it at some point :)

I guess we don’t even necessarily have to go by which ones you like the most. There are other metrics we could consider, like going from easiest to sub to hardest to sub, or shortest runtime to longest

“Should we go with subtitles that reflect the names of characters, places, etc. as the actors themselves are pronouncing them, or as standardized in mainstream references (e.g. Wikipedia)?”

Are you referring to Cantonese speaking characters having Mandarin names in official/mainstream documentation, or Chinese names and place names being translated into English, or something else entirely? If it’s the first, then I think I’d be fine with that. If it’s the second, then that’s more complicated. I kind of like the idea of translating place names into English. I find that place names, and even names for characters, can be hard to remember if you don’t know the language, and if the media in question is chock full of these kinds of names that need to be committed to memory. Because when you don’t know a language, you don’t really have any meaning to associate with those kinds of words. And this is for a non-Chinese speaking audience. But on the other hand, directly translating Chinese names for HUMANS can feel really awkward, so it’s probably best to leave human names alone. That’s one of the criticisms that people have with the ongoing official translation for the Condor Trilogy books. They gave the characters names that were directly translated into English, and they sound really awkward. And if it’s the third, then elaborate
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2023, 02:37:01 am »
"My preference is your preference"

It turns out - I only now did a search - ROTCH 1995 has already been subbed by someone else:

https://subdl.com/sc/sun-diu-hap-lui/english

The subs do not seem to be good quality, but do we really want to spend what would be many hours of work merely producing a better version? If our aim is just to make the plot comprehensible for you, you might as well just use these subs and then ask questions back in:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/the-archetype-of-the-warrior-how-films-help-empower-us-all/

should any comprehension issues arise!

My feeling is that if we are going to do subbing, it would be more worthwhile to do it for series/movies that to date lack existing subs altogether. What do you think?

"Are you referring to Cantonese speaking characters having Mandarin names in official/mainstream documentation, or Chinese names and place names being translated into English"

Both. I also forgot to mention, besides characters and places, we have to worry about names of martial arts styles or even names of particular techniques within each style!
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2023, 03:12:53 am »
“It turns out - I only now did a search - ROTCH 1995 has already been subbed by someone else”

It’s fine, that clip was just for practice anyways. If we were gonna sub the whole thing, then I would’ve had to redo basically all of that 3 minute scene anyways, since the time stamps in the SRT file would be completely different

“My feeling is that if we are going to do subbing, it would be more worthwhile to do it for series that currently lack existing subs entirely. What do you think?”

I think it would be kind of cool to have a whole library of dramas and movies with proper, high quality subs. So I wouldn’t rule it out, but I do agree that it would be better to sub the more obscure ones that don’t have any subs at all first

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2023, 04:08:18 am »
In the meantime, I have also found a subbed version of Journey to the West 1996, though only on streaming sites. So it's looking like we won't be doing that one first either.

I looked but did not find subs for Mystery of the Sabre:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/the-archetype-of-the-warrior-how-films-help-empower-us-all/msg17399/#msg17399

If it's wuxia you want to do, we could do this one, even if it is on the generic side.

Alternatively, I'm not averse to doing modern series instead if you are interested. I did a few modern dramas with Hashtali back in the old days. We did not get round to doing this one:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/is-counterculture-still-alive/msg18971/#msg18971

so I am open to getting back to it (the subtitle text of the first two episodes have been sitting done on my computer for years) if the setting interests you. (I would have to send you most of the video files, however, since the remaining episodes are not presently online as far as I know.) Another possibility is:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/is-counterculture-still-alive/msg19002/#msg19002

Which of the above do you like the look of?

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« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2023, 03:35:33 am »
I would love to help you with the one that’s been on the back burner for you, but I don’t understand Japanese, so that might be more difficult. I’m afraid of losing track of which subtitles go where, because it’s all gibberish to me. I don’t really speak Cantonese either, but for the ROTCH clip, I could still easily match the correct time stamps for each piece of text, because the clip had Chinese subtitles, and the characters are obviously the same between Mandarin and Cantonese (and Japanese, for that matter. So Japanese subtitles would be similarly helpful). Mandarin is the only one that I’m completely comfortable with time stamping without accompanying native subtitles. My helpfulness in subbing a Japanese drama or movie would depend on if the source videos you’re providing contain those kinds of subtitles with hanzi/kanji. Unless you think that I could still do it without prior Japanese knowledge or subtitles? I’ve never tried. So maybe you’d have a method that would make it harder for me to lose track

Outside of that, I’m partial towards the top one, since I’ve had a personal curious interest in wuxia lately. Chinese media in general is new territory for me, since it’s not currently popular outside its home country like Japanese media is. I’m also partial towards the middle one, since it’s one that you’ve already been thinking about and have on the back burner. So I’d like to help you get that one out of the way