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The ancient rolemodels of our enemies
« on: January 29, 2021, 11:39:17 pm »
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The best way to know how our enemies of today think is to know the historical figures whom they hold in high regard. Let's get started:

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Spring in Europe is a green time, a time of planting and rebirth of the earth. It was also, for thousands of years, the start of the campaigning season when armies which had been closed in by the brutal European winter could break out, raid, conquer and take new lands.

The spring of 449 AD brought the campaigning season with perhaps the longest lasting impact in human history. Two German brothers, Hengist (“stallion”) and Horsa (“horse”), chiefs of the tribe of the Jutes, sailed for the devastated Roman province of Britain after being hired by the Romanized Celtic British leader, Vortigern, to fight his Celtic opponents, the Picts and the Scots. For their service, Vortigern offered them monetary rewards and the island of Thanet.
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That first landing in 449, 1570 years ago this spring, led to the landtaking of the Anglo-Saxons, and the birth of the English nation. Britain, in the early Dark Ages, was to the North Germanic tribes what North America would be to their descendants a thousand years later—a land to be conquered, tamed and remade in their own image. They were proud to be a nation of conquerors, proud to have settled a new land and to have made it their own. They had a healthy sense of self and no feelings of guilt towards those who they had conquered. They went so far as to refuse even to live in Celto-Roman settlements, leaving them to rot.

Within several years after the landing, the brothers were at war with Vortigern. Horsa died in battle against him in 455, at a place recorded as Aegelsthrep, which is possibly present-day Aylesford in Kent.
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The native British were so terrified that they left Britain in large numbers as refugees and settled in the areas that are now Wales, Ireland and Brittany, France, giving the region its name and the Celtic dialect that survives to this day.

The Saxons also used treachery to gain the upper hand, and were not in the least ashamed of that fact, since all is fair in love and war, and their main God, Woden, was a treacherous God. According to Gildas, after Horsa was killed in battle with the Celts, “The remaining Saxon leader, Hengist, called for a peace conference, which took place on Salisbury Plain. In an event known as 'the Night of the Long Knives', on their arrival the Celts were treacherously massacred:

And Hengistus ordered the whole of his household that each one should hide his knife under his foot in the middle of his shoe. 'And when I shall call out to you and say "Eu nimet saxas" ( draw your swords!), then draw your knives from the soles of your shoes, and fall upon them, and stand strongly against them. And do not kill their king, but seize him for the sake of my daughter whom I gave to him in matrimony, because it is better for us that he should be ransomed from our hands.' And they brought together the conference, and the Saxons, speaking in a friendly way, meanwhile were thinking in a wolfish way, and sociably they sat down man beside man. Hengistus, as he had said, spoke out, and all the three hundred elders of King Vortigern were slaughtered, and only he was imprisoned, and was chained, and he gave to them many regions for the ransom of his soul, that is Est Saxum, Sut saxum , Middelseaxan, with other districts under his control which they named.”
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In a strange quirk of history, it is not the actual ancestors of the English people who are celebrated, but the Romanized Celtic British losers.
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A new awakening of the unbreakable Germanic spirit of Hengist and Horsa, an honoring of the heroes who conquered and stayed without guilt, could help save England and the Anglosphere for their posterity. A good spark to such an awakening would be to set aside a day in spring, the beginning of the campaigning season in old Europe, to commemorate the coming of the English race to Britain.

May 5 will do just fine.

A people with a pride in their history, with an identity, cannot be conquered or bred out of existence. That pride starts with recognizing who our real heroes are, who we owe a debt to—one that can never be repaid. Two such heroes were Hengist and Horsa.

So now we know: if our enemies ever offer us peace while retaining their separate identity, it means they plan to sucker us into lowering our guard whereupon they can easily massacre us. Indeed, such behaviour was repeated frequently during the colonial era. But now we see that it goes further back.
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2021, 09:25:06 pm »
Why white supremacists and QAnon enthusiasts are obsessed – but very wrong – about the Byzantine Empire
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Displays of Crusader shields and tattoos derived from Norse and Celtic symbols are of little surprise to medieval historians like me who have long documented the appropriation of the Middle Ages by today’s far right.

But amid all the expected Viking imagery and nods to the Crusaders has been another dormant “medievalism” that has yet to be fully acknowledged in reporting on both the far right and conspiracy theorist movements: the Byzantine Empire.
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In September 2017, Jason Kessler, an American neo-Nazi who helped organize the “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, inaugurated a new supremacist group called “The New Byzantium” project.
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Kessler’s “New Byzantium” is intended to preserve white dominance after what he calls “the inevitable collapse of the American Empire.”
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Kessler isn’t alone in appropriating the empire. Through my research, I have monitored references of Byzantium in online forums. Mentions of Byzantium are scattered across message boards frequented by both white supremacists and QAnon enthusiasts
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For many on the far right, talk of Byzantium is cloaked in Islamophobia – both online and in tragic real-life events.

A white supremacist who killed more than 50 worshippers at mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand, in 2019 railed against the Turks and the conquest of Constantinople in a 74-page manifesto.

“We are coming for Constantinople, and we will destroy every mosque and minaret in the city. The Hagia Sophia will be free of minarets and Constantinople will be rightfully Christian owned once more,” the shooter wrote. Throughout QAnon message boards, the reconquest of Hagia Sophia is emblematic of the destruction of Islam and the restoration of a mythic white Byzantium. One post stated: “When we free Constantinople and the Hagia Sophia, maybe we can talk.”
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This “reconquest” of Constantinople had even been tied in some online posts to the presidency of Donald Trump, with images circulated online seemingly prophesying that it would happen under his tenure. In one image, Trump is seen congratulating Russian President Vladimir Putin “on the retaking of Constantinople”
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Putin himself is not averse to drawing on the symbolism of Byzantium. The Russian state has long tried to position itself as the rightful successor to the Byzantine Empire, with Moscow as the “Third Rome.” This forms part of a religious and political doctrine tied to Russian territorial expansion that can be traced back as far as the late 15th century.

The far-right appropriation of Byzantium in the U.S. appears to be influenced by this Russian interpretation. Indeed, Russian proponents of the “Third Rome” doctrine have been cited as influences by prominent figures on the American right.

**** BYZANTIUM!



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Re: The ancient rolemodels of our enemies
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2022, 09:59:13 pm »
Our enemies want to revive Aristotelianism:

Ancient Wisdom For Modern Dissidents: Guillaume Durocher’s THE ANCIENT ETHNOSTATE | Articles
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Aristotle expressed himself plainly in his Politics on the subject of diversity and mass immigration; i.e., it was, in the end, disastrous for the host nation:

Dissimilarity of stock is conducive to factional conflict, until a cooperative spirit develops. For just as a city does not arise from any chance multitude, so it does not arise in any chance period of time. Hence those who have admitted joint settlers or late settlers [of different stock] have for the most part split into factions.[Politics, Book 5, Chapter 3]

Aristotle cites eight examples of ethnic conflict that arose from the imprudent admission of “dissimilar stocks” to Greek city-states.
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Aristotle also emphasizes that xenophilia is a mark of tyranny:

    It is characteristic of the tyrant to have foreigners rather than persons from the city as companions for dining and entertainment, the assumption being that the latter are enemies, while the former do not act as rivals.[Politics, Book 5, Chapter 11]

  This is especially important in regard to the tyrant’s bodyguards:

    The guard of a [legitimate] king is composed of citizens: that of a tyrant is composed of foreigners.[Politics, Book Three, Chapter 14]

Slaves, on the other hand, ought to be of varied stock in order to make it more difficult for them to cooperate and thus to minimize the danger of revolt.
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These concerns were reflected even in the religion of the ancients, which was short on recommendations of good Samaritanism toward strangers and long on duties to one’s ancestors. The chief duty was to produce descendants.
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In other words, the democratic regime gave ordinary men a stake in the system, thus motivating them to defend it.
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« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2022, 11:46:35 pm »
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Aristotle expressed himself plainly in his Politics on the subject of diversity and mass immigration; i.e., it was, in the end, disastrous for the host nation:

How does the author explain the success of Ancient Rome then, for example?

What was ‘race’ in ancient Rome?
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There have been a number of stories in recent months about the intersection of race and classics, and most of them address issues in the discipline that are inextricably linked to this narrative about the ancient world. In truth, it is anachronistic to think of the ancient Greeks and Romans as White; after all, contemporary racial categorizations, especially the concepts of “Whiteness” and “Blackness,” are fundamentally products of the modern era.

More precisely, "Whiteness" and "Blackness" are products of colonial America: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/the-'black'-and-'white'-identity-politics-scam/
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The question of whether race existed in some form in the premodern past, especially in the ancient world, is extremely murky. We know that the Greeks and Romans would never have thought of themselves as part of an identity group with others solely because they shared a skin color, nor should we assume that all Greeks and Romans even had the same skin tone. But does denying the existence of race in the ancient world sanitize our view of ancient people, who could be just as xenophobic and oppressive — does it have to be this concept of race to be “race”? Or does trying to apply the term too broadly water down its impact and merely serve to reinforce inaccurate ideas about the similarity between our culture and those of people who lived millennia ago? There is no answer, in part because the type of evidence we would want to understand the structural impacts of race in the ancient world is largely gone. We cannot truly know, for example, what it meant to live in Athens as a person marked as “non-Greek,” or how that person would have defined their own identity. All we have are elite male Greeks and Romans writing about other peoples.
This is why I wanted to use a teaching gallery in the course. Art often reveals the implicit assumptions of a culture that are not explicit in the literary evidence. In the gallery, I have included a sample of some of the ancient materials from the Kemper collection to show the range of colors used to depict skin, from a deep black glaze to pale white marble. It can be hard for modern audiences to unthink our own tendency to use skin color as the ultimate signifier of racial identity. For most of these objects, the color of the skin doesn’t mean anything about the person’s race.
What was ‘race’ in ancient Rome?
Senior Lecturer of Classics Kathryn Wilson’s Teaching Gallery exhibition at the Kemper Art Museum, “Colonizing the Past: Constructing Race in Ancient Greece and Rome,” explores the implicatio...
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Ancient Rome Thrived When the Empire Welcomed Immigrants. We Should Remember What Happened When That Changed
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Instances of xenophobia shook the cities, each one worse than the next, in the anxious years of the early fifth-century Roman Empire. Doors were slammed in immigrants’ faces when they asked for food, immigrant family members were kidnapped and beaten on the road, an immigrant house of worship was set on fire. One commentator, taking up his stylus to decry the foreign “pestilence” ravaging his comfortable way of life, won instant applause from Latin-speaking audiences. He twittered about contemporary events with matter-of-fact indifference. “Everyone insults the immigrant,” the poet Claudian said.
An Ancient Roman Lesson in the Power of Welcoming Immigrants
Among the ideas we inherited from Rome, none has had a more pernicious power than the division of the world into civilized and barbarian
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Re: The ancient rolemodels of our enemies
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2022, 12:34:52 am »
"How does the author explain the success of Ancient Rome then, for example?"

In Aristotle's time, Rome was not yet dominant even within Italy:



therefore it is likely that Aristotle would have considered Rome a minor player, especially compared to his own student's territory:

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2022, 12:39:57 am »
I see your point. Still, Ancient Rome was one of the most successful empires that has ever existed. You're suggesting that the author is allowed to disregard any argument from a time period outside of the one he specifically designated in his article?
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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2022, 12:59:20 am »
If you mean the VDare blogger, that's another matter. I was referring to Aristotle himself, who did not live to see Rome become more historically important than Macedonia. But you are correct that our enemies are rarely inspired by Rome. (Which is why stupid for False Leftists to call our enemies "fascists".)

While on the subject of Aristotle, however, here is someone else who thought highly of him:

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Maimonides also considered Aristotle to be the greatest philosopher that ever lived, and styled him as the "chief of the philosophers".[174][175][176] Also, in his letter to Samuel ibn Tibbon, Maimonides observes that there is no need for Samuel to study the writings of philosophers who preceded Aristotle because the works of the latter are "sufficient by themselves and [superior] to all that were written before them. His intellect, Aristotle's is the extreme limit of human intellect, apart from him upon whom the divine emanation has flowed forth to such an extent that they reach the level of prophecy, there being no level higher".[177]
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2022, 06:33:14 am »
Rome was destroyed by the Vandals, who were "more white" than the Romans. Racists see the Vandals as both racially superior and more successful, which means they are unlikely to identify with the Romans.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2022, 11:16:21 pm »
****:

White supremacists claim ownership over Hollywood blockbuster The Northman | Daily Mail Online
The new blockbuster The Northman has been praised by 4chan users for
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White supremacists have claimed ownership over the new Viking Hollywood blockbuster The Northman, which stars Nicole Kidman and Anya Taylor-Joy.
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 'Northman is a based [agreeable] movie, all white cast and shows pure raw masculinity.'

The connection between white supremacy and an interest in Viking culture is not new.
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He added: 'American white supremacists want to make Vinland great again, laying out an imagined past in which Vikings are the rightful conquerors of North America, locked in eternal battle with the Skraelings, the Viking slur for indigenous people.'
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With its 'positive portrayal of heterosexual relationships and sex' as well as 'intense portrayals of white female beauty', the blockbuster fits into a criteria of content users of white-nationalist site Stormfront would 'watch repeatedly'
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Social media users have also expressed concern about the film, with one person writing on Twitter: 'Does the Northman look like white supremacy fan fiction to anyone else?'

Another commented: 'The alt right completely co-opted the movie 300. Imagine what they're going to do with The Northman.'

I had a post on the old forum answering a question about Vikings, which I will repost here:

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"Were the vikings Aryan? Or is their sheer brutality a result of Giant admixture?"

Vikings did not begin to exist until long after the Neolithic era, therefore ancestrally they would be mixed like everyone else.

In terms of genetic quality, the Viking lifestyle would have selected for those who found raiding and commerce appealing. Thus I would estimate that those who chose to stay in Scandinavia would have had on average more Aryan blood than those who chose to join the Viking expeditions. This would be consistent with the Vikings being opposed to centralized states and to Christianity.

I find it noteworthy that the Viking raids (which left (probably mostly patrilineal) genetic imprint on the raided populations) never reached Occitania, which was where the Cathars later appeared. Racially, we could speculate that Occitania had more Aryan blood than the rest of medieval Christendom in part due to absence of Viking genetic imprint, hence not coincidentally came up with the most Gnostic form of Christianity.



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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2022, 12:01:19 am »
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Racially, we could speculate that Occitania had more Aryan blood than the rest of medieval Christendom in part due to absence of Viking genetic imprint, hence not coincidentally came up with the most Gnostic form of Christianity.

Sounds like good speculation to me.
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« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2022, 08:56:16 pm »
By the way, regarding:

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'The alt right completely co-opted the movie 300. Imagine what they're going to do with The Northman.'

let us note last time:

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Canton was born to a Jewish family[1] in Queens, New York
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Filmography as Producer
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2006   300

and this time:

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Arnon Milchan (Hebrew: ארנון מילכן; December 6, 1944) is an Israeli businessman, film producer and spy.

Milchan was born in Rehovot, British Mandate of Palestine (now Israel), to a Jewish family.[5][6]
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The biography Confidential, which is largely sympathetic to Milchan, revealed in detail how he involved himself in espionage, big-ticket arms-dealing, and obtaining sensitive technology and materials for Israel's nuclear weapons program. The research in Confidential – The Life Of Secret Agent Turned Hollywood Tycoon established that "at least through the mid-1980s [Milchan] was a full-fledged operative for Israel's top-secret intelligence agency, Lekem. His activities included "buying components to build and maintain Israel's nuclear arsenal" and supervising "government-backed accounts and front companies that financed the special needs of the entirety of Israel's intelligence operations outside the country".[3] Interviewed regarding Milchan's intelligence activities, Israeli President Shimon Peres stated:

"Arnon is a special man. It was I who recruited him.... When I was at the Ministry of Defense, Arnon was involved in numerous defense-related procurement activities and intelligence operations. His strength is in making connections at the highest levels.... His activities gave us a huge advantage, strategically, diplomatically and technologically." (interview dated February 8, 2010, documented in Meir Doron and Joseph Gelman's "Confidential: Secret Agent turned Hollywood Tycoon Arnon Milchan" p. xi).

Two years later, on November 25, 2013, on Israel's channel 2 documentary program Uvda, Milchan confirmed on camera the central claims in the book Confidential that had been released earlier. The announcement caused international interest in the story and was covered widely.[12]

Peres, the architect of Israel's secret nuclear weapons program in the 1960s, stated that in the 1960s he recruited Milchan to work for the Israeli Bureau of Scientific Relations (LEKEM or LAKAM), a secret intelligence organization tasked with obtaining military technology and science espionage. Milchan acknowledged that he was a secret arms dealer for the Israeli government and claimed to have used his connections to promote the apartheid regime in South Africa in exchange for it helping Israel to acquire uranium for its nuclear program.[13]
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He was a producer in all films unless otherwise noted.
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2022   The Northman

Do we see a pattern emerging? Here is one more clue:

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an increasingly popular far-right idol is Dracula (a.k.a. Vlad the Impaler), just because he beat up Muslims. I actually don’t mind this so much; better that they accurately adopt Dracula as their symbol than inaccurately adopt Jesus or Hitler. But then again they claim that Dracula is the ideal Christian……. no, I’m not kidding.

Everyone who’s not a useful idiot now sees in retrospect that ’300′ was a movie made for the Zionist agenda of promoting Golden Dawn. The new question is: what’s the Zionist agenda behind this movie?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0829150/

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De Luca was born and raised in Brooklyn, New York. His mother was a German-Jewish immigrant
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All films producer unless otherwise noted.
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Dracula Untold (2014)

Can you figure out what is going on?
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2022, 09:02:05 pm »
Our enemies officially state their dislike for the Roman Empire:

The Grand Strategy Of The Roman Empire: Invade The World, Invite The World | Blog Posts
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These individuals allow us to connect the region they were observed in, to the region containing the most likely source of their ancestry. We recover a dense network of mobility across the Roman empire and beyond:


From our perspective, this is why all the present-day South Mediterranean countries including territory which were former Roman provinces should be given EU (and Schengen) membership ASAP.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2022, 05:09:04 pm »
Our enemies praise Cyrus II:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t1371731/

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Medvedev Uses Rev 9:18 as Apocalyptic Warning to West
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Rev 9:13-18 & Rev 16:12 refer to the same world-changing historical event... the brilliant way Cyrus the Great conquered "invincible" Babylon.

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Cyrus took sacred white horses with him in his war campaign against Babylon. According to ancient Greek historian Herodotus, it was an incident with one of Cyrus' white horses that gave him the brilliant idea how to conquer Babylon by stealth... by diverting the water of the Euphrates river [Rev 9:14 & Rev 16:12.] Cyrus literally stole the city of Babylon right from under the Babylonian king.

Interestingly... Russia's coat of arms, Russian military uniforms, Moscow's flag and Putin's flag all have a warrior on a white horse [St George slaying a dragon symbol which is also similar to Cyrus the Great's family seal.]

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Medvedev is cryptically saying, Putin is Cyrus and Babylon will fall.

Once again, I am happy to reach academic agreement with our enemies in comparing Putin with Cyrus:

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The Edict of Restoration, a proclamation attested by a cylinder seal in which Cyrus authorized and encouraged the return of the Israelites to the Land of Israel following his conquest of the Neo-Babylonian Empire, is described in the Bible and likewise left a lasting legacy on the Jewish religion due to his role in ending the Babylonian captivity and facilitating the Jewish return to Zion. According to Isaiah 45:1 of the Hebrew Bible,[14] God anointed Cyrus for this task, even referring to him as a messiah (lit. 'anointed one'); Cyrus is the only non-Jewish figure in the Bible to be revered in this capacity.[15]

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/enemies/israel/msg12478/#msg12478

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg11536/#msg11536

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/jews-have-nothing-in-common-with-us!/msg12624/#msg12624

We were winning back then:

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The Babylonian captivity or Babylonian exile is the period in Jewish history during which a large number of Judeans from the ancient Kingdom of Judah were captives in Babylon, the capital city of the Neo-Babylonian Empire, following their defeat in the Jewish–Babylonian War and the destruction of Solomon's Temple in Jerusalem. The event is described in the Hebrew Bible, and its historicity is supported by archaeological and non-biblical evidence.

After the Battle of Carchemish in 605 BCE, the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II besieged Jerusalem, which resulted in tribute being paid by the Judean king Jehoiakim.[1] In the fourth year of Nebuchadnezzar II's reign, Jehoiakim refused to pay further tribute, which led to another siege of the city in Nebuchadnezzar II's seventh year (598/597 BCE) that culminated in the death of Jehoiakim and the exile to Babylonia of his successor Jeconiah, his court, and many others; Jeconiah's successor Zedekiah and others were exiled when Nebuchadnezzar II destroyed Jerusalem in his 18th year (587 BCE), and a later deportation occurred in Nebuchadnezzar II's 23rd year (582 BCE). However, the dates, numbers of deportations, and numbers of deportees vary in the several biblical accounts.[2][3]

and then Turanian Cyrus was the one who literally brought Judaism back from the brink so that it would continue to plague the world even to the present day:

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After the fall of the Neo-Babylonian Empire to the Achaemenid Persian Empire and its founding king Cyrus the Great at the Battle of Opis in 539 BCE, exiled Judeans were permitted by the Persians to return to Judah.[4][5] According to the biblical Book of Ezra, construction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem began in c. 537 BCE in the new Persian province of Yehud Medinata. All of these events are considered significant to the developed history and culture of the Jewish people, and ultimately had a far-reaching impact on the development of Judaism.

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Re: The ancient rolemodels of our enemies
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2023, 06:12:00 pm »
Our enemies help us understand them better:

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Asian martial arts come with an assumption that Asian culture — whatever that really is — is superior to Western culture. People who study judo or Tae Kwon Do or karate wear “gis” and talk about “masters” and “dojos.” It is all about some mysterious system with ceremony and decorum. An obsession with Asian-ness is standard for any American who becomes a “sensei.” The students attribute deep wisdom to the “master,” who is likely to believe that anyone who uses strength to win a fight is a brute.

The Western view is different. We proudly used war and fighting to make our boys into men, but we never pretended that a Kung-Fu-Panda-type master of some mysterious cult was the wisest man in the world. In our tradition, a martial art was a technical skill used for fighting. We Westerners used everything at our disposal, whether it was technique, armor, weaponry, strategy, or strength. We were always looking for new ways to improve the efficiency and success of our fighting men.

And we have always admired strength for its own sake. We admire “huge Achilles,” who wielded a spear that no one else could handle. We admire Ajax, also described as huge — the “bulwark of the Achaeans.”
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The desire to become better, not the subtle distinctions between Western and Eastern martial arts, is what makes the West fundamentally different from the East. Karate and Tae Kwon Do, for example, never develop or change. They are stagnant and therefore useless.

The bad translation that produced the term "martial art" itself exposes the Western attitude. A more accurate translation would actually be "art of ending violence" (literally "Ahimsa art"):



The correct aspiration is not to keep becoming better, but only to be able defeat the enemy in front of you. To do so requires studying the enemy and figuring out what is required to counter them (so it is untrue that non-Western styles never develop; rather, we develop strictly in retaliation, to the extent required to defeat the enemy). But when there is no enemy, our duty is to avoid becoming (by initiating development) the new enemy that others will then need to develop themselves in retaliation in order to defeat. This is the wisdom that Westerners have no appreciation for.

The duty of Ahimsa is to avoid ever starting an arms race, no less than to end ASAP any arms race that has been started (by eliminating whomever started it). This is why ethical Ahimsa arts teachers during times of peace designate the most powerful techniques of their respective styles as forbidden from being practiced by their students, and only during emergencies temporarily unlock these techniques for specific use by the heroes entrusted to defeat the enemy (and the heroes may even voluntarily cripple themselves after the mission is completed in order to show they have no intention of retaining the techniques). All this is alien to Western thinking.

Who is superior: those who encourage an arms race, or those who discourage it?
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Re: The ancient rolemodels of our enemies
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2023, 07:24:34 pm »
Duchesne's idol:

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Imagine our elites were made of men like this across Western nations: It is said that this statue was not a portrait of Colleoni but of the idea of a strong and unbreakable military commander “bursting with titanic power and energy”


Note the Turanian composition. (To say nothing of the face shape.....)
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