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Posted by: SodaPop
« on: November 14, 2025, 01:50:44 pm »

‘We Cannot Turn Them Back,’ South Africa’s Ramaphosa Says After Unexpected Arrival of Palestinians
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Speaking on the sidelines during a Johannesburg clean-up campaign on Friday (November14) , South African President Cyril Ramaphosa addressed the media regarding a group of Palestinians who were stranded upon their unexpected arrival in the country on Thursday (November 13).

"We cannot turn them back, even though they do not have the necessary documents and papers," Ramaphosa told media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHIM1N593vs

"Out of compassion and empathy we must receive them...". What an un-Western thing to say!  ;D
Posted by: rp
« on: October 10, 2025, 08:38:56 am »

https://apnews.com/article/burkina-faso-united-states-deportees-982e4a4645a78eed9603ac6a9d60f21d
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 09, 2025, 04:20:37 am »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHxrvRYyxSM

This will not be enough. Only willingness to use firearms will stop ICE.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: July 01, 2025, 06:24:07 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ogP5yXS4yI

Amnesty would also be essential to restore confidence in the US for those currently outside who once might have considered immigrating to the US but have since been discouraged from doing so by Trumpism.

Woke comments:

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Amnesty for immigrants and jail for Maga and ICE.

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And return visas for deportees.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 30, 2025, 09:32:03 pm »

Refresher:

https://www.aclu-or.org/en/know-your-rights-immigrants-rights

Please share widely to anyone in danger of being deported.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 26, 2025, 04:49:39 pm »

Colombia must not back down!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjmmIZPDdlk
Posted by: SirGalahad
« on: January 24, 2025, 07:27:43 pm »

@90sRetroFan Apparently there’s more where that came from:

Mexico refuses to accept U.S. deportation flight

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/mexico-refuses-accept-us-deportation-flight-rcna189182

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Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum's government has said it opposes Trump taking "unilateral" action to implement restrictive immigration standards — including the reinstatement of a "remain in Mexico" policy that forces migrants to stay in that country while they await adjudication of asylum claims. Flying deportees into a foreign country requires the cooperation of that nation's government, and Mexico declined to give its consent.

Hopefully the current Mexican government remains steadfast on this.

¡Arriba la raza cósmica!
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: January 13, 2025, 05:08:36 pm »

Well done Algeria!

https://rmx.news/article/algeria-is-seeking-to-humiliate-france-after-france-deports-algerian-national-algeria-simply-sends-him-back-leading-tensions-to-the-boiling-point/

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Algeria sent him back to Paris last Thursday, on the evening of the very day he had been sent, saying that his rights had been violated. 

The Algerian Ministry of Foreign Affairs said it wants “to allow him to respond to the accusations brought against him, to assert his rights and to defend himself within the framework of a fair and equitable judicial process on French territory.”

“The vengeful and hateful extreme right, as well as its patented heralds within the French government, are currently leading a campaign of disinformation, even mystification, against Algeria,” the ministry said.

This is how every country that other countries want to deport refugees to should respond every single time.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: December 07, 2024, 05:36:40 pm »

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Trump’s team was preparing a list of countries that it could send migrants to should their home countries not agree to take them back.

The list included the Bahamas, Turks and Caicos Islands, Panama and Grenada, the sources told the US news outlet.
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It remains unclear whether any countries will agree to take in deported, third-country migrants and asylum seekers when Trump takes office again in January.

If the Bahamas can refuse, ,why can't the others?

Also, this should not be only about third-country migrants. If anything, a country has more reason to refuse to take refugees who fled itself, since it is the very country the refugees were fleeing from, duh!
Posted by: rp
« on: December 07, 2024, 11:30:24 am »

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/12/5/bahamas-rejects-trump-proposal-to-take-in-deported-third-country-migrants
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 26, 2024, 03:43:42 pm »

Support Mayor Johnston!

https://nypost.com/2024/11/22/us-news/denver-mayor-threatens-to-deploy-cops-50k-residents-in-tiananmen-square-moment-to-stop-trumps-mass-deportations/

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Denver’s mayor has vowed to shield migrants in his sanctuary city from mass deportation by using local cops and 50,000 residents “stationed at the county line” — calling it a “Tiananmen Square moment.”

“More than us having [federal agents] stationed at the county line to keep them out, you would have 50,000 Denverites there,” Democratic Mayor Mike Johnston recently told the outlet Denverite — after President-elect Donald Trump vowed to undertake mass deportations of illegal migrants across the US.
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Roughly 40,000 migrants have flocked to the Mile High City since December 2022 — the largest number of new arrivals per capita across the nation.
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The pressure of a hawkish new administration in the White House won’t change Denver’s status as a sanctuary city, Johnston said.

“The short answer is, we won’t change that, because those are one of our core values. And we’re not going to sell out those values to anyone. We’re not going to be bullied into changing them,” Johnston said.

“I think we are gonna continue to be a welcoming, open, big-hearted city that’s gonna stand by our values.”
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Johnston also said he won’t allow local law enforcement to assist the feds in making arrests of illegal migrants.

“Absolutely not,” Johnston said. “We won’t do it.”

This is how every city in the US should be behaving.

What do our enemies think?

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Elon Musk, who Trump recently tapped to head the new Department of Government Efficiency, took to his platform X to say that Johnston’s threat shows “the mayor of Denver hates his constituents.”
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Trump’s pick for “border czar,” Tom Homan, told The Post that his hope is the new White House administration will file lawsuits against sanctuary cities and withhold federal funding from them.

If that doesn’t change their ways, the Trump administration will “flood” those areas with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers to wait outside local jails for illegal migrants to be released, he said.

So, once again, as I keep saying, it will come down to whether our side is willing to shoot ICE agents on sight.
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 23, 2024, 05:28:36 pm »

Good news:

https://rmx.news/article/turin-court-acquits-18-anarchists-who-occupied-former-roadmans-house-to-help-migrants/

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The Turin Court of Appeal has acquitted 18 far-left activists who occupied a former roadman’s house in Oulx, in the Susa Valley, to assist migrants attempting to cross the border into France.

The court ruled that the defendants acted “in a state of necessity,” invoking Article 54 of the Italian Penal Code, which exempts individuals from punishment if they commit acts to save themselves or others from imminent danger.

The case dates back to 2018 when the group occupied the property to provide a refuge for migrants traveling through the harsh mountain terrain of Alta Susa Valley. Many migrants, dressed inadequately for winter conditions, faced life-threatening situations while attempting to cross the border into France. The anarchists argued that their actions were necessary to prevent serious harm or death.

In the first instance, the court acknowledged the “invasion of buildings” but ruled for acquittal on the grounds of the “tenuity of the fact,” recognizing the minor nature of the crime. The building, known in Italian as a casa cantoniera which was previously used to house maintenance workers, had been derelict for some time.

The Court of Appeal went further, accepting the defense’s argument that the group’s actions were legally justified by the urgency of the situation.

“The judges recognized that the migrants, finding themselves in those mountain areas with no place to go and sometimes in summer clothes during winter, faced very serious dangers,” explained defense lawyer Danilo Ghia. “Numerous testimonies confirmed that the defendants saved lives.”
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the court’s decision highlighted the humanitarian aspect of the case. By applying Article 54, the judges established that the anarchists acted under the necessity of saving lives, creating what some see as a precedent for future cases involving humanitarian aid and migrant assistance.

 :)

Historical trivia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susa_Valley

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During the Roman age, Augustus formed an alliance with the Segusini of Cottii Regnum to link Italy and France by building a road through the Valley and over the Col de Montgenèvre (Passo del Monginevro), now 2 km away from the Italian border.

During the Middle Ages, the road was called Via Francigena, and pilgrims arriving from France passed through Mont Cenis and the Susa Valley on their way to Rome. It was one of the most used Alpine passes from the Middle Ages to the Nineteenth Century. Several abbeys were built to accommodate pilgrims, such as Novalesa Abbey founded in 726AD on the foot of a mountain and the monumental Sacra di San Michele abbey.

Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 22, 2024, 04:46:59 pm »

Another reminder that refusing to accept deportees is one of the most important elements in helping refugees stay in the countries they chose to flee to:

https://euroweeklynews.com/2024/11/20/finland-has-suspended-its-bilateral-development-cooperation-programme-with-somalia/

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Finland suspends certain aid to Somalia until is accepts migrants being expelled from Finland

Somalia is doing what is ethical. Other countries should reward this ethicality by providing the aid that Finland has suspended. (Of course, in a truly ethical world, other countries should militarily invade Finland ASAP.)
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 16, 2024, 05:12:38 pm »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ-ez0W6POI

Will more Blue-controlled areas join in? More importantly, will they be willing to use firearms against ICE? Because:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mObpcSo62Uk
Posted by: 90sRetroFan
« on: November 13, 2024, 09:09:15 pm »

Good idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GUviOQWqKw

Will Biden listen? Probably not.

Ultimately I still believe it will come down to whether or not people targeted for deportation (and those who sympathize with them) are willing to use firearms against ICE.