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« Reply #420 on: September 27, 2024, 09:32:55 pm »
Sputnik is a Russian news agency btw (as the name suggests).

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« Reply #421 on: September 29, 2024, 11:36:31 pm »
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Protein bad, high speed rail bad, skyscrapers bad, Olympics bad. The only thing the Indian soul yearns is for living in a 12th century village as a feudal Lord lording over some peasants, claiming descent from the Gods of his sub sub caste.
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This is poverty food. Anyone who denies this is Copin

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We really have to pull these people out of the hole they desperately want to crawl back in.

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« Reply #422 on: September 30, 2024, 12:24:13 am »
The food looks fine:

https://x.com/sumehehehedha/status/1840131912880533558

Anyone who thinks it is not enough is degenerate.
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #423 on: September 30, 2024, 03:03:33 pm »
More tweets from the same tweeter advocating Westernization of India:
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If 80% of India has access to:

- An AC
- A water purifier + cooler
- Access to milk, eggs and fish
- An apartment block as their home

Then I would say India has become a developed country. So far we are short of it by 60-80%.

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« Reply #424 on: October 06, 2024, 08:09:15 pm »
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Nehru was able to convince the entire world to help India, much like Zelensky has done for Ukraine today, but in a much larger and more sustained scale.

India got steel plants from Russia, IITs from all over the world, and other key infrastructure help from the world over.

The help wasn't just technical, or financial, it had to also include manpower to operate it, for which India could give very little in return.

From “The Outsourcer: The Story of India’s IT Revolution” by Dinesh Sharma

The first IIT at Kharagpur in West Bengal established in 1951 drew faculty members from the US, UK, Ireland, France, USSR, Germany, Norway, Sweden, and Poland.

For the second IIT at Bombay, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) arranged the donation of equipment and technical expertise from the Soviet Union and other Eastern bloc countries in 1956

The third IIT was set up in 1959 after the Federal Republic of Germany (West Germany) offered assistance to set up the institute during Prime Minister Nehru’s visit to the country in 1956. Subsequently, an Indo-German agreement was signed at Bonn in 1959.

IIT Kanpur – established in 1959, this IIT was developed under a collaboration with American researchers as part of the Kanpur Indo-American Programme.

Despite such varied international inputs, Nehru was still keen on direct involvement of MIT in development of IITs… MIT finally agreed to lead a consortium of nine US universities to help set up the Kanpur institute. A formal ten-year program called the Kanpur Indo-American Project (KIAP) was initiated in August 1961. Members of this consortium were California Institute of Technology, Carnegie Institute of Technology, Case Institute of Technology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Ohio State University, Princeton University, Purdue University, University of California at Berkeley, and University of Michigan.

IIT Delhi – was the fifth IIT, established in 1961 with the UK. H.R.H. Prince Philips, Duke of Edinburgh, during his visit to India, laid the foundation stone of the College at Hauz Khas on January 28,1959.

I won't give sole credit to Nehru, that would be unfair, for the entire nation was seized with the zeal of nation building. All the same remarkable institutions of modern India rose up without any noticeable corruption or pilferage.

Remember India had been kept back from the industrial revolution. While France and the UK were industrializing in the 1750s, India was a whole 200 years late to the industrial revolution and modern scientific education. Nehru's generation had to create a modern India with a scientific temper.

Hindsight is 20:20 - Nehru being a brown sahib was what sold India to the West. In Nehru they saw Indians not as a foreign commodity, but as something they could understand. If we are able to announce or reclaim our Indian values today, it is because we are confident and strong, but in 1947 had we been trumpeting our unique cultural values we might have alienated the help that was barely forthcoming.

No leader who expects history to judge him or her kindly can truly lead. You have to read the situation as best as you can and do your most to make something of it.

India got to catch up with the West without having to pawn its history entirely. China lost her history in large part to the cultural revolution, Japan underwent the Meiji restoration where traditional Japanese robes were made illegal in the cities, and even Japanese women were taught how to cook "Western" style. Japan went from a largely vegetarian nation to a beef eating nation in one generation.

During the time of Nehru there was enormous pressure from the West to convert India into a beef eating nation - every time Nehru brought up food shortages he would be lectured on all that cattle that went uneaten in India. He had to walk a fine line between pawning self respect and pawning the civilization.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #425 on: October 07, 2024, 08:30:57 pm »
Miguel Serrano with Nehru!:



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« Reply #426 on: October 07, 2024, 08:58:08 pm »
For the record, I don't support Nehru on all issues, for example his establishment of compulsory schooling and the Indian space programme.

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« Reply #427 on: October 08, 2024, 04:47:57 pm »
It is interesting how back in the counterculture era, support for Palestine and being a Hindu was not seen as contradictory in the Indian political context, as evidenced by Nehru's support for Palestine while having popularity among Hindus. This is because the silent generation was aware of the history of colonial oppression, and logically sympathized with fellow victims of colonialism. This is what we need to get back to.

The present day Zionist Hindutva are doing a disservice to anti colonialism. I suspect these are boomers who take for granted the independence that they enjoy, and hence are too arrogant to understand the struggles of the previous generation despite growing up in the counterculture era. As these people are from states with high TFR rates, I suspect heritable fecundity is at play here, as non Aryans, who have "f*CK you, I got mine" mentality, only care about reproduction and their own well being, and not about ethics.

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« Reply #428 on: October 08, 2024, 05:35:54 pm »
""f*CK you, I got mine" mentality"

IF so, why do so many of them support Tibet?

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« Reply #429 on: October 08, 2024, 09:43:57 pm »
I would have said to stick it to China, but they could just be anti China instead of pro Tibet. What is your explanation for their support of Israel and Tibet?

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« Reply #430 on: October 08, 2024, 10:06:51 pm »
Tenzin Gyatso himself is pro-Israel, so it is consistent for those who support Israel to also support allies of Israel.

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« Reply #431 on: October 08, 2024, 10:57:10 pm »
Ok, but then why do they support Israel?

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« Reply #432 on: October 08, 2024, 11:11:20 pm »

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« Reply #433 on: October 19, 2024, 08:06:12 pm »
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« Reply #434 on: October 19, 2024, 09:07:56 pm »
Is this guy the most extreme Eurocentrist we have found to date? More tweets:

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Also, I can't stand the framing of the term "scarcity mindset" to describe frugality, as if the only valid reason to be frugal is because of fear of running out of money, rather than wanting to avoid waste.

I am willing to spend extra money to repair old items that would cost less to buy whole new replacements for. This is an explicit example of non-scarcity-mindset frugality. (I then try to make up the deficit by being even more frugal somewhere else.)
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