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guest30 · « **on:** April 04, 2022, 11:21:43 pm »

Chinese people in my homeland behave like Jews and Westerners, they work, make more money from their business, but the money immediately send to their families who are live in Mainland China, so they not honestly to pay taxes to nation which amount is in accordance with the amount of revenue which they originally got.

They also people who are mostly live with Western value and way of life, that is liberalism, capitalism, and exclusivism. They live with money abundance but they keep it for themselves, not to donate to the society and the government. And also they live with Western-style building, housing area, languages and also their clothes, they tend to speak English colonial language even tough the society around them is using Nusantara language. Here is the example :

1. Pantai Indah Kapuk 2, North Jakarta, house complex of majority Chinese people, it's shopping complex using Western colonial era architecture

2. Pantai Indah Kapuk 2, North Jakarta. Chinese people using foreign language on their stores, English colonial language and also Chinese language

3. Pantai Gading, East Jakarta. Chinese people make their shopping store from Western shape architecture, with Chinese and English colonial language

4. Pantai Gading, East Jakarta. Chinese people make their shopping store and apartments from Western shape architecture

So, discussing the problem of Western Civilization is not only to the "whites", but also to the "non-whites" who are more embracing Western values rather than anti-Western values. And also, Chinese people in Nusantara like to live in near-sea place like coast. So they can immediately accept the fellow Chinese immigrants who are come from Mainland China without integrating them into Nusantara anti-Western way of live and values. Even some of Chinese immigrants were hidden Communist and secret China soldiers masquerade as a worker immigrant.

Chinese people's formal clothes in Nusantara

1. Instagram account named @bellaapriliasant

2. Instagram account named @michellewanda

The words marked by red circle shows her speaks on Nusantara language, so she speak Nusantara language for showing and promote her Western style party to the Nusantarans audience

3. Instagram account named @arnoldpo

The writings of comments which marked by red line show that he promote his formal activity photo to the Nusantara's Instagram audiences.

If you want to against Western Civilization totally, discuss the Chinese people too...

I already make an activism, so if you not like us, don't destroy us, we have same enemy

Islamic Movement Anti Government Protest, against Western Secular Liberal Government of Nusantara in Patung Kuda, Center Jakarta, Nusantara, on Friday, March 25 2022

Poster of Grand Imam Habib Rizieq bin Hussein Shihab

The main goal of our movement

90sRetroFan · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2022, 12:11:06 am »

"If you want to against Western Civilization totally, discuss the Chinese people too..."

Have you not been reading my recent posts?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg12491/#msg12491

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg12477/#msg12477

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg12084/#msg12084

etc.

I wholly support you starting a blog focusing on ridiculing Westernized Chinese, posting more of the same content like what you just posted above. However, you should make it clear that you consider Western civilization itself inferior, or else some readers might misunderstand and think you are actually pro-Western but merely saying that Chinese are not qualified to be Westerners.

guest30 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2022, 01:25:24 am »

@90sRetroFan

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Have you not been reading my recent posts?

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/msg12491/#msg12491

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/social-decolonization/msg12477/#msg12477

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/reproductive-decolonization/msg12084/#msg12084

etc.

Your criticism is not destructive enough according to me. What you want is still give advice to the ~~Chinese~~ White Chinese to abandon Western way of live. We already make a plan to treat them like how we treat "whites" and "Chinese" during Bersiap Period in 1945 if they still stubborn on our warning

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I wholly support you starting a blog focusing on ridiculing Westernized Chinese...

I already make an real activism, to show that I will be your ally even tough I'm still considered as traitor to this movement, if I am cannot be part of your movement, then I will do something which still hold your movement's value. So I more have time to implement the value to reality as soon as possible rather than inform people through making blog writings. And also, Nusantara people more like learn through listening to the teacher who know many knowledge (Fuhrerprinzip) rather than read many writings (Western Empiricist Education).

I'm not want ridiculing Westernized Chinese. I want to eradicate Westernized people. They are everyone's bastard

90sRetroFan · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2022, 02:09:25 am »

"I want to eradicate Westernized people."

OK, but your most immediate focus should be Australia:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/has-australia-reconciled-with-its-colonial-past/

How are you planning to de-Westernize Australia?

guest30 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2022, 04:12:01 am »

@90sRetroFan

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OK, but your most immediate focus should be Australia:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/has-australia-reconciled-with-its-colonial-past/

How are you planning to de-Westernize Australia?

"Australian" people mostly come to Bali Island, but they are too much to be greeted by our people, even our people in Bali make Western-style facilities to them for making comfort to them. Like toilet with tissue, not water, expensive restaurant which offer Western food, English speaking-only room (which is infuriating me). All of it for appease them, even tough they not want try to help the Balinese people to understand them with speaking Nusantara language. And otherwise, Balinese people always with difficulties try to speak English to the Western tourist, include "Australians".

So, my plan is to De-Westernization of Bali, and try to tell to the Islamic movements which I follow, to make a mass protest on Bali Question also, not just Jakarta.

And I hope if Nusantara led by the correct leader. He will emphasize the "Australia" problem. they always secretly fund and give weapons the Papuan separatist, so they can make pro-Western independent nation from Nusantara. And he will make nuclear weapon, or buy nuclear weapon from fellow Islamic nation, Iran, or socialist North Korea, for threatening "Australia" and also "New Zealand" if they refuse to distance themselves from Western bloc.

I have more ruthless treatment to the "whites" rather than the "non-whites" who want to behave like "whites". They are the sources of world cruelty and degenerate philosophical worldview.

WLM = White Lives Murder

rp · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2022, 08:12:44 pm »

Also, you say "Jews and Westerners".
Jews are Westerners, so you should say "Jews and other Westerners".

rp · « **Reply #6 on:** April 05, 2022, 08:27:52 pm »

I suspect the Chinese Eurocentrists also look down on Indonesia for being a "third world" country, and bash them in order to avoid being seen as "third worlders" by the "Whites".

They are in effect reinforcing the "White" supremacist view that "North East Asians" are better than other "non White" ethnicities.

90sRetroFan · « **Reply #7 on:** April 05, 2022, 09:11:52 pm »

""New Zealand""

I do not recommend hostility against "New Zealand", on account of its promising recent behavioural trajectory:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/dress-decolonization/msg4140/#msg4140

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/name-decolonization/msg8778/#msg8778

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/name-decolonization/msg8790/#msg8790

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/academic-decolonization/msg10192/#msg10192

I believe we can help them become Aotearoa peacefully. We should emphasize the contrast between them and Australia so that they take pride in being as different from Australia as possible. Also, its population is only ~5 million, so it would not take much immigration from Nusantara to de-Westernize it through demographic shift.

Indeed, even Australia's population is only ~25 million which is <10% of Nusantara's population, therefore as I have previously mentioned you should think more about using migration to de-Westernize Australia demographically.

"I suspect the Chinese Eurocentrists also look down on Indonesia for being a "third world" country, and bash them in order to avoid being seen as "third worlders" by the "Whites"."

I am sure you are correct.

"They are in effect reinforcing the "White" supremacist view that "North East Asians" are better than other "non White" ethnicities."

Yes, they probably believe in the dreaded Arctic Alliance:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/temperature-effects/msg2459/#msg2459

In contrast, ancient Chinese would be horrified at being placed into the same category as Mongolians:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/re-turanian-diffusion/msg12171/#msg12171

or even Koreans:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/blood-memory/msg11975/#msg11975

This is why reviving anti-Turanism is vital. Once Chinese recall which direction the actual inferiority comes from, their old respect for Nusantara should return:

Chinaâ€“Indonesia relations - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Numerous Chinese ceramics were discovered throughout Indonesia, suggesting ancient trade links between both countries. The National Museum of Indonesia has one of the best and the most complete collections of Chinese ceramics discovered outside of China, dated from the Han, Tang, Song, Yuan, Ming and Qing dynasties, spanning for almost two millennia.[3] This particular collection provides a good insight into Indonesia's maritime trade over the centuries. Research indicates that the Chinese sailed to India via Indonesia as early as Western Han period (205 BC to 220 AD) as a part of the maritime silk road and firm trade relations were subsequently established.[4]
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Indonesia also played some role in the expansion of Buddhism from India to China. A Chinese monk, I-Tsing, visited Srivijaya in 671 for 6 months during his mission to acquire sacred Buddhist texts from India.[5][6]
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Most ancient Chinese-Indonesia relations were trade-motivated and throughout their shared history, most were harmonious and peaceful, with one exception.

What was the exception? Turandom, of course!

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In 1293, Kublai Khan of Yuan dynasty sent a massive expedition of 1,000 ships to Java to punish the defiant king Kertanegara of Singhasari.[8] The naval expedition, however, was a failure as Java rose to be Majapahit empire instead.

Details:

Mongol invasion of Java - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Back to the good stuff:

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Maritime empires such as Srivijaya, Majapahit, and later Malacca sought trade permits to establish relations with lucrative Chinese markets. The numbers of Chinese immigrants and Chinese influences in the archipelago reached a new height, with the massive Ming dynasty naval expedition led by admiral Zheng He that visited Java, Sumatra, and the Malay peninsula in early the 15th century. Zheng He's translator Ma Huan wrote a detailed description of Majapahit and where the king of Java lived.[9] The report was composed and collected in Yingya Shenglan, which provides a valuable insight on the culture, customs, also various social and economic aspects of Chao-Wa (Java) during Majapahit period.[10]

rp · « **Reply #8 on:** April 05, 2022, 10:50:50 pm »

Also, a reminder that the "White" supremacist hierarchy places "Northeast Asians" even above other "Asians" (e.g. "South Asians" (Indians), "Southeast Asians" (Indonesians, etc.), and "Southwest Asians" (Middle Easterners)), which is why it possible for the Chinese to look down on Indonesians despite both groups being "Asians". This is presumably because of the "Arctic Alliance" that you mentioned.

guest30 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 05, 2022, 11:37:28 pm »

@90sRetroFan

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Indeed, even Australia's population is only ~25 million which is <10% of Nusantara's population, therefore as I have previously mentioned you should think more about using migration to de-Westernize Australia demographically.

Most of colored immigrants who come and live in "Australia" live with ordinary "Australian" values, that is Western values, they immediately see that the Western democratic, liberty, and humanism values is more good rather than their nation origin's value, even many of Islamic immigrants abandon their Islamic values when they live and see "Australia" value which give them more freedom of expression and benefit. So, sending many immigrants to "Australia" and other Western European nations is implicitly promoting the advantages of Western values on non-Western values to the rest of non-Western world. And I doubt if "Australia" got many of colored immigrants, they will politically turn into anti-Western nation if they still hold Western democratic liberal value. And also, make an agreement with "Australia" to send millions of immigrants to their land is hardly to be accepted by them. They always reluctant to accept colored immigrants. If not rejected, the colored immigrants are send by "Australian" border police to the remote island like Nauru which torturing them because it's place is difficult to be inhabited.

Only power which can make them obey

90sRetroFan · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2022, 01:03:32 am »

"the "White" supremacist hierarchy places "Northeast Asians" even above other "Asians""

It additionally considers Northern Chinese superior to Southern Chinese, and the Chinese Eurocentrists copy this attitude just because they hear it coming out of a "white" mouth. By our standards the opposite is true, of course:

https://www.quora.com/Why-do-Southern-Chinese-and-Northern-Chinese-look-like-completely-different-races-and-why-do-they-look-nothing-alike-I-am-a-Chinese-from-China

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Northern Chinese are a mix of early Han, Turkic peoples, Mongols, Koreans, Tibetans and some other mostly nomadic tribes which disappeared into the Han melting pot.

Southern Chinese were not nomadic, lived in a more mountainous region, and were mostly involved in rice cultivation.
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Stronger alcohol drinking culture: The Chinese from Northeast China (Jilin, Heilongjiang, Liaoning) especially like to drink a lot alcoholic drinks like the Russians or the Koreans do.

Heavier and more robust food: Compared to Chinese food from Southern China, Chinese food from Northern China tends to be greasier, heavier on the stomach, saltier, and more robust in flavour. More meats and less vegetables are featured on Northern Chinese food.
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Stronger tea drinking culture: Southern Chinese people, especially Chinese people from Chaozhou region of China and Fujian region of China, tend to drink a lot more tea than Northern Chinese people. Chinese statistic said that Chinese people from Chaozhou region of China consume the most tea per capita compared to the other Chinese from other regions of China.

Lighter and more delicate food: As opposed to Northern Chinese food, Southern Chinese food tends to be less greasy, lighter on the stomach, less salty, and more delicate in flavour. More vegetables are featured on Southern Chinese food because vegetables could grow better in Southern China than in Northern China.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/yandi-vs-huangdi-myth-confirmed/

"even many of Islamic immigrants abandon their Islamic values"

Yes, but there is also a pattern of rebound in their offspring born in the Western country who often become strongly Islamic:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/234146852_Islam_Moves_West_Religious_Change_in_the_First_and_Second_Generations

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The situation is more complicated for the second generation. Western culture has an influence, but structural integration does not necessarily reduce religiosity. Some children of immigrants try to follow a “real” Islam that has been purified of culturally specific practices. Hostility toward Muslims may lead some to react by increasing their own religious involv...

This is what we are counting on.

So let's look at the whole picture. Some Nusantarans are more Islamic, others are less Islamic. If none emigrate, nothing changes. But if emigration is encouraged, those emigrating will probably be the less Islamic (since they dislike the local lifestyle to begin with). So Nusantara becomes more Islamic as a consequence of their departure. But their Australian-born offspring will then become more Islamic! Thus emigration from Nusantara to Australia makes both Nusantara and Australia more Islamic. See how amazing this is?

guest55 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 07, 2022, 11:38:44 am »

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Thus emigration from Nusantara to Australia makes both Nusantara and Australia more Islamic. See how amazing this is?

And, let's not forget Mohammedans are often more nationalistic than even their "white" Western native counterparts:

Muslims 'are more patriotic than most British people'

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British Muslims feel a greater sense of national pride than the average UK citizen, according to the results of a new poll.

While 79 per cent of the Britons quizzed said they agreed with the statement 'I am proud to be a British citizen', the figure rose to 83 per cent among Muslims.

Muslims 'are more patriotic than most British people' | Daily Mail Online

83 per cent of Muslims quizzed agreed with the statement

dailymail.co.uk

guest30 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2022, 05:12:45 pm »

@Mazda

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And, let's not forget Mohammedans are often more nationalistic than even their "white" Western native counterparts:

If their nationalism are because of British comfort living and liberty, then their cause are actually liberalism and Western materialism. If their nationalism are because of British can be dominated by Islam, then their cause are make British (United Kingdom) politically Islamic nationalism. So don't judge that all muslims in Britain (United Kingdom) have national pride because of nationalism on your movement's meaning, some of them just love liberty and Western way of life which give them more comfort rather than the Islamic nations where they come from. And Britain are liberal. And liberals cannot be a nationalist, because they reject the absolutism value which exist in nationalism ideas.

rp · « **Reply #13 on:** April 17, 2022, 12:23:16 am »

"Northern Chinese"
I was just watching the movie "Ip Man" that showcased the difference between Northern and Southern Chinese. One of the antagonists, Jin Shan Zhao, is an agressive, Northern Chinese bandit who looks down on southerners. In addition, the character is also a sexist.
Here is the phenotype of the actor who plays the character:

The protagonist and titular character on the other hand, is a non-sexist and non-aggressive southerner. Here is the phenotype of the actor who plays the protagonist:

Jin Shan Zhao: "What I really want to know is, how Wing Chun could be invented by a woman?"
Ip-Man: "Kung fu does not know age or sex"

rp · « **Reply #14 on:** April 17, 2022, 10:27:06 pm »

Another thing I noticed about Southern Chinese while watching the film was their diet. In the film, the residents of the southern Chinese town Fo-Shan primarily consume rice. This is similar to South India. In one of the scenes, Ip-Man is even shown to be eating "congee", a dish whose name is literally a South Indian word!:

Congee - Wikipedia

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The English word congee is derived from the Tamil word kanji (கஞ்சி, kañci, IPA: [ˈkaɲdʑiː]).[1][2][3] In Chinese, it is known as zhou (Chinese: 粥; pinyin: zhōu; Cantonese Yale: jūk). The earliest reference to rice porridge or congee can be traced back to the Chinese Zhou dynasty (circa 1000 BCE). It is also mentioned in the Book of Rites and noted in Pliny’s account of India circa 77 CE.[4]

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