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Re: Why You All Suck
« Reply #105 on: May 07, 2023, 06:17:31 pm »
>Is this the one?

Yep, more búllshit. A documentary does not count as music. You are illiterate. You ignored the question, you lost again.

>may have had positive effects on the following gene pool. Hence, the story of European success can be partially explained. This is not to say that the entirety of European genetic change can be to the Black Plague, which would be very likely false.

The underlined portions disprove your own argument. You did not read your own article. Plagues are an environmental factor, not a genetic one. You are illiterate.

inb4 "I didn't say the Black Death changed genetics!" You are basing your argument on the notion that the Black Death favored a genetic change in a manner that supported technology

>You'd be the one against the thoroughly sensible practice of dumping the entire shipment as soon as a chemical hazard is found in one sample

These "chemical hazards" demonstrably exist in other "shipments". If not in one chemical toxin, then in other chemical toxins.

>But despite this they did not independently produce the Renaissance.

They produced similar Renaissances that undeniably built off each other, as it the nature of technological innovation:



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Here are current Renaissances more historically significant than "the" Renaissance happening right now:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belt_and_Road_Initiative

But you're not going to call for the genocide of the Han, Arabs, or Indians. You are probably going to ignore this by strawmanning and twisting my words, just as you ignored the main point of what I originally said, which was that there are plenty of anti-tech "whites", and pro-tech "non-whites". Thank you for admitting defeat once again, moving on.

>So either you would refuse to dump the entire shipment in which the hazardous sample was found, and thus cause mass poisoning, or else you would demand the dumping of shipments from sources in other parts of the world as well, and thus cause mass starvation.

Nope, I'd just prefer to go after ignoble people rather than everyone who vaguely looks like them (notice how I went back down to Earth by disregarding your false equivalence?). For a supposed child welfare activist, you certainly don't think twice about throwing the baby out with the bathwater LOL

>The correct approach, of course, is to dump every last bit of the shipment in which the hazard was found:

I could at least respect this, if this meant every contaminated shipment, rather than just the ones coming from Europe. But you'd still be retarded for saying we should just "dump" all of our "food" to deal with "food safety issues".

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Re: Why You All Suck
« Reply #106 on: May 07, 2023, 06:37:00 pm »
Okay kittens, so that's the end of my debate with 90sRF. All my reasoning against his idiocy has either been proven, or ignored.

My conclusion from this debate, is that he openly acknowledges that his politics will induce ethnic tensions and ethnic discrimination, and refuses to acknowledge that he has a double standard he applies to some, but not others. Despite obviously spending hours shítposting online about this niche topic everyday for years, he still has to debate like the biggest turbokiké I have ever encountered to try to hide this fact.

That said, all of you bobbleheads out there need to realize that there is a good reason reason why any other political circle would immediately recognize someone like 90sRF to either be a malevolent psychopath, or a Federal Agent. I want you all to ask yourselves if you really want Mr. Race-Baiting-Cat-Torturer to be your leader. So from now on, I will just finish off all you other retards so we can address what we're all really thinking about; the degrading stagnation of Aryanism, and its future rejuvenation.
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Re: Why You All Suck
« Reply #107 on: May 07, 2023, 06:50:57 pm »
@Bondburger

>Ascesis isn't the first to see how 90RF's writings went from wise, compassionate and inspiring on the main site to reactive, cruel and offputting on the forums... Your idealism was beautiful, but something truly evil has grown from it.

You hit the nail on the head with incredible precision. This is the essence of Ascesis; Aryanism, once beautiful, turned into something rotten. Only by the return of its original ethos, and the pursuit of action, will it be reborn. Do reach out, even if you don't want anything to do with Ascesis, we'd love to talk to you

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« Reply #108 on: May 07, 2023, 06:59:11 pm »
>Truly evil? This statement is completely lacking in perspective.

Cat torture and race baiting is evil.

>Even if every single one of your criticisms were to be taken to heart, take a look at the rest of the world, or for that matter, the rest of humanity. I have yet to come across any movement or circle with as holistic, complete, and honorable of an ideology.


This honorable wholeness comes from Aryanism, which "True Leftism" is demonstrably trying to erase and literally did.

>they will not deny that they’re indebted to this circle as well for their ideological base, even after arguing with 90sRetroFan for the past few days

We, ALL ARYANISTS, don't owe anyone shít. No one owns a monopoly on the truth, no matter how much 90sRF wants to pretend no one else helped him develop Aryanism. If he was truly ever our leader, then we must hold him to higher standards. Or better yet, "unreasonable" standards that are just as unreasonable as he is now. Our leaders must be the best, not the worst of us, if we want to evolve to be more pure, healthy, and noble.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2023, 07:01:31 pm by Ascesis »

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Re: Why You All Suck
« Reply #109 on: May 07, 2023, 07:14:41 pm »
"That said, all of you bobbleheads out there need to realize that there is a good reason reason why any other political circle would immediately recognize someone like 90sRF to either be a malevolent psychopath, or a Federal Agent."

Let's hope 90SRF is a "federal agent", that would be excellent!!!

Say what you will about the CIA, or other intelligence agencies, but depending on their (ever changing under western democracy) leadership, intelligence agencies can often be ahead of the game on all types of issues. It's usually civilians such as yourself, and ignorant politicians generally, who eff everything up for those of us who are truly paying attention. Case in point:

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Only Western occupiers would find complaint in such an association...

I know "narcissist" is a western word we should not really acknowledge here, but Ascesis checked every box in regards to "narcissistic" manipulation here on this forum long ago. Mainly:

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The cruel end result of this is that oftentimes the victim is left with limited support, as their loved ones may believe the lies spread against them. When they try to report the abuse they are experiencing, they are treated as if they are the ones causing the problems...
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I hate to tell you this Ascesis, since you wasted so much of your time and everyone else's time here, but "narcissists" will have a very difficult time manipulating a militarist organization. Most militarists feel duty-bound to their mission come hell or high-water.
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Re: Why You All Suck
« Reply #110 on: May 07, 2023, 07:24:58 pm »
>Perhaps Ascesis and yourself should seek out a civilian movement and not a movement based upon a foundation of militarism such as Aryanism and National Socialism?

You clearly still have not read the Ascesis site you think it has no martial spirit. Perhaps its difficult to see this on the outside, but bringing Aryanism back to life by learning how to wield the martial spirit with history-altering action is the entire point of Ascesis. The Ascesis Program is just the first step to this

>You sound like the character on so many western films that kneels next to a mortally wounded character, holding them and stroking their face whilst telling them everything is going to be okay, instead of putting pressure on the wound and preventing them from bleeding-out.

I don't care what you think BB "sounds" like, this analogy is not even congruent with BB's statement and means nothing.

>The U.S. military also removes criminals from it's ranks when they are discovered, as do many military's around the world.

Are you here to misanthropically complain about how everyone sucks, and pretend you are supposedly any better? Or, do you want to have an honest conversation about your own shortcomings, how you can address them, and help others do the same?

>We fight to be free of our enemies one day.

*posted on an obscure internet forum*

>This is the entire point of militarism in the first place. Are you suggesting the best way for the enslaved and oppressed to be free is to love their slave-master and enemies, and to not organize and fight back until they are free? Why would any sane and "compassionate" person argue that the oppressed were enslaved by hatred prior to being slaves by an actual physical slave-master?


You completely ignored his point. Aryanism went from a cool-headed mission to overcome tyranny preventing us from fixing the real issues at hand, to a downright obsession with revenge fantasies that are often targeted towards the wrong people, creating more ignobility in the process.

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« Reply #111 on: May 07, 2023, 07:31:28 pm »
>a web of lies or exaggerations in order to discredit and isolate a person.

90sRF was the one who lost that massive debate by overdosing on argumentative fallacies in an attempt to compensate for being wrong. Here is your humble leader:

"Women who find him (Patrik Baboumian) more attractive than me should not be allowed to reproduce either."

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg460/#msg460

>This is typically done publicly, and to anyone who will listen

Uhhh.... yeah. Fúck Ascesis for.... making a post on a public forum?"Lying in public" isn't even narcissism. Its ignoble, and maybe a sign of narcissism, sure, but not narcissism on its own.

You should understand that one of the fundamental narratives of the Ascesis Foundation is that every Aryanist is not living up to the full gravity of our ideals, and that each and every one of our lives should and must radically change in order to accomplish this. Don't take this the wrong way, but narcissists would not exactly thrive under this culture.
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« Reply #112 on: May 07, 2023, 07:36:37 pm »
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You clearly still have not read the Ascesis site you think it has no martial spirit. Perhaps its difficult to see this on the outside, but bringing Aryanism back to life by learning how to wield the martial spirit with history-altering action is the entire point of Ascesis. The Ascesis Program is just the first step to this...

If 90SRF is actually a "federal agent" as you accused him of being, then we are so close to all out victory anything you could write on a website is completely irrelevant at this point....

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« Reply #113 on: May 07, 2023, 08:13:06 pm »
Thing is I don't disagree with what you're saying. I just don't trust you personally. All the ideology here is sound. We need a fuhrer (one autocratic force) with the spiritual and material capability to unite all worthy beings and destroy Zion, SOON!

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« Reply #114 on: May 07, 2023, 08:27:17 pm »
"The underlined portions disprove your own argument."

Your illiteracy acted up again before reaching the end of the paragraph, which caused you to miss:

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However, the entirety of European success can be predicted from continuous genetic change, which, itself, may have been sparked from the Black Plague.

"They produced similar Renaissances"



Which one row is the least similar to the others?

"Here are current Renaissances"

Which would not be occurring if "whites" had ceased to exist prior to the Renaissance.

"there are plenty of anti-tech "whites", and pro-tech "non-whites"."

There are plenty of "whites" who will oppose something "whites" created after it has been created.

There are plenty of "non-whites" who will support something "whites" created after it has been created.

Neither of these changes the fact of who (answer in bold) is consistently causing new problems that would never have existed if their gene pool did not exist. Indeed, the very "whites" who oppose a current problem created by other "whites" might be the same ones to create the next problem (perhaps even as a way to 'solve' the current problem)!

Not all the problems are even machine-related. Democracy, for example, has nothing to do with machines. Yet are we supposed to believe it is pure coincidence that the same gene pool to blame for industrializing the world is the same gene pool also to blame for democratizing the world, a world which in the absence of this gene pool would never have done either? Is this not a sign that it is a mistake to limit acceptable political discourse to opposing merely the content of what is innovated on each specific occasion, instead of trying to turn off the fundamental innovative force beneath it all? Why is it always the same one gene pool coming up with the new stuff? Is it a stretch to bet that this same one gene pool will also be the one to come up with the next big thing that was never meant to be introduced to the world? And the one after that? And on and on? (Or until AI takes over altogether, and it will surely be AI modelled after the way of thinking typified by this gene pool.....)

If we want to put a stop to it all, the first step we need to take should be obvious by now.

In conclusion, I agree with the title of this topic:

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Why You All Suck

But only if "You All" refers to "whites".

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"Women who find him (Patrik Baboumian) more attractive than me should not be allowed to reproduce either."

I proudly stand by this statement. And this includes "non-white" women. (For context, read this post:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/aryan-bones/msg6391/#msg6391

to be informed about how gracile I am. Whereas:

https://media.mealprep.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/patrik-baboumian.jpg )

On the other hand, "white" women who consider me more attractive than Baboumian should still not be allowed to reproduce, for reasons explained above.
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« Reply #115 on: May 07, 2023, 09:26:28 pm »
This guy is a demon.

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« Reply #116 on: May 07, 2023, 10:02:06 pm »
>This guy is a demon.

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« Reply #117 on: May 07, 2023, 10:29:27 pm »
>I proudly stand by this statement.

mhm

>be informed about how gracile I am

The hórny old man doesn't realize that anyone who has ever said some deranged shít like "all women who don't prefer me over someone else should be sterilized" also have their own "reasons" for thinking so. We agree that twinks are cuter than hunks, but why connect it back to yourself?

Women who prefer someone they've actually seen a picture of, over "90sRetroFan" from "trueleft.createaforum.com" (its okay, you're "ectomorphic"), should be sterilized? Sterilize women for not preferring someone they've never seen before? Very romantic. All you've ever implied is that you are short, very skinny, have super thin ankles/wrists (and/or just really long fingers), and you're probably a fellow cumskin. 10/10 would bang, fertilize me daddy

You know what though, I don't even really care if you're a narcissist or not. Because either way, shít like this explains how out of touch you are. No wonder you tanked (y)our life's purpose to the fúcking ground.
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« Reply #118 on: May 07, 2023, 10:38:16 pm »
>Thing is I don't disagree with what you're saying.... All the ideology here is sound.

bro

>I just don't trust you personally.

Yea I'm fine with that my guy, skepticism is healthy. I'm open to questions if you got any

>We need a fuhrer (one autocratic force) with the spiritual and material capability to unite all worthy beings and destroy Zion, SOON!


Let me say this as someone who has been an Aryanist since I was thirteen; Aryanist "leaders" fúcking suck. Both role models and Fuhrerprinzip are essential, but we need to try something new, and this means taking the initiative to be your own hero.

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« Reply #119 on: May 07, 2023, 11:36:33 pm »
I get the sense that your  trying to harm or destroy me, clearly you don't understand the kind of person your dealing with, demon. If one cannot be baptized by the water or fire then it's straight to the chaining they go!!

Now prepare yourself, your about to be chained.