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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
« Reply #60 on: December 07, 2023, 10:32:52 pm »
Vrilya I want to say I apologize for arguing with you we may not agree 100% but it was stupid to nitpick about lesser issues or be bitter about personality if there is more important matters. I also had Lyme disease at the time and didn’t know until later. I also hope instead of trying to justify degeneracy 90srf can actually take advantage of the rapidly rising anti-Zionist conscience. The false left and right are taking advantage of this. Where is the urgency? We can’t wait for every true leftist to find national socialism on their own. I feel A.H. would be ashamed of how little progress such (usually) good information has made in reality. I have been going to protests but they do little. Emphasize need for action and rather than discussing unnecessary alienating stuff like this which at best should be considered far later or probably not at all. The ideal is any debase feelings people have will vanish after a few generations of Aryanization and the pain and hate it has caused both side will die out. That’s my opinion.
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« Reply #61 on: December 18, 2023, 12:31:50 pm »
Its cool dude, I understand where you were coming from. I was a hardline Sanctuaryan AS supporter back in the day myself, I know you were just trying to do the right thing. Lyme disease does not sound fun at all bro, I hope it goes away

You're right that we've talked so much, that eventually we began talking our way into disunity and alienating future prospects. The lack of urgency is crazy, I remember when COVID first hit I almost felt this antsy FOMO because we didn't have the social and physical infrastructure needed to exploit the opportunities back then, or the ones today. It all starts with us, individually. Aryanists need to act like stateless princes(ses) in order to fully live up to our worldview, and I hope the Ascesis Program helps get people on that track.

Reach out to the Ascesis email, I got ideas if you're interested:

letzte.bataillon@proton.me
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« Reply #62 on: September 07, 2024, 04:07:33 am »
Sexuality is a vulnerable aspect of many people's lives, in respect to addiction or trauma. Sensitive and impressionable children, no less any sensitive and impressionable individuals, need to be protected. This crucial protection is, bizarrely, being confused with oppression, which is the opposite. When a child is convinced their preferences are unimportant because they can't make sound decisions for themselves even regarding consent to being touched and must defer to adults, how can they be expected to resist unwanted sexual advances from adults? How can they be empowered over their own sexuality, when autonomy is outright denied to them and they're gaslighted and made to feel confused over their own desires? Even when anxiety and shame about "hedonism" are put on prepubescent children about their sexuality which is usually very playful, mild, and innocent?

Newsflash: Subjection to adults by children is LEARNED from repeated bullying just like this by adults, especially parental figures. In a just society, children would always feel free to express their non-consent and reject the requests or demands of adults. Addiction is the overvaluation of sexuality as a source of suffering and satisfaction, this is promoted by things like trauma and fear, peer pressure and overemphasis of sex. In what world it's promoted by the practice of making decisions for oneself over one's sexuality, I haven't a clue. If anything this gives us the opportunity to improve executive control (the ability to overcome base instincts and direct oneself toward the attainment of higher goals.)

Adult supremacism is terribly unjust to children and I'm glad there are people in the world speaking up against it, as well as the unfair treatment of those with different sexualities. It's insane we live in a world (at least in the West) where it's socially acceptable to express hatred toward children but not attraction.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
« Reply #63 on: September 07, 2024, 07:59:29 pm »
To understand why Western civilization is more MAP-phobic than non-Western civilizations, we should look at it from an evolutionary psychology perspective.

Children tend to be more attracted to low sexual dimorphism. It is only as they physically mature that they become increasingly attracted to high sexual dimorphism.

So, imagine two civilizations. MAP-phobic civilization P forces individuals to wait until they are physically mature before letting them choose spouses. Non-MAP-phobic civilization Q lets individuals choose spouses at any age. In other words, P forces individuals to wait until their tastes have adulterated (to preferring high sexual dimorphism) before they can choose spouses, whereas Q gives them a chance to choose spouses while they still possess their original superior tastes (for low sexual dimorphism). Statistically, the result is that low sexual dimorphism individuals are more likely to not be chosen in P than in Q, and hence low sexual dimorphism bloodlines are more likely to be eliminated in P than in Q. Thus, over many generations, people in P will become higher in sexual dimorphism on average than people in Q.

Would non-Westerners would prefer their civilization to be P or Q? Answer: Q, as low sexual dimorphism people are better suited to living under hydraulic government due to such people being typically lower in plebian hubris.

On the other hand, would Westerners prefer their civilization to be P or Q? Answer: P, of course! P will produce more masculine men, and hence more Faustians (a subset of masculine men), and hence more machinists (a subset of Faustians), and hence invent more new machines, which will enable P to outcompete Q.

Given enough time, non-MAP-phobic civilizations will eventually be outcompeted by MAP-phobic civilizations. Therefore the MAP-phobic civilizations must be destroyed first.

Related:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/mythical-world/aryan-hydraulic-empire/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/plebian-hubris/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/homo-hubris/

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/true-left-breakthrough-folkish-imperialism/

"It's insane we live in a world (at least in the West) where it's socially acceptable to express hatred toward children but not attraction."

At least on this forum, we should be setting an example of non-MAP-phobia. But MAP-phobia has been so internalized that even many people here self-repress:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/debate-with-the-progressives/msg15331/#msg15331

Getting rid of this self-repression is the first step to work on.
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« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2024, 07:56:15 pm »
"Children tend to be more attracted to low sexual dimorphism. It is only as they physically mature that they become increasingly attracted to high sexual dimorphism."
100% true. When I was picked on for one aspect of my low sexual dimorphism (ectomorphy) being a mismatch with an other aspect of my high sexual dimorphism (deep voice), the child in me wanted to embrace my low sexual dimorphism, as I felt that was being true to my original self, while the adult in me wanted to become more dimorphic. Still, I find a constant battle between my child self and adult self. Part of it is definitely due to puberty, but even before puberty, there is a constant pressure to conform to adult standards due to compulsory schooling.
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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
« Reply #65 on: September 02, 2025, 12:49:58 am »
Example of gravure?:
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« Reply #66 on: September 02, 2025, 07:14:45 am »
Fanservice is a frequent advertizing tool, but should we call such advertizing gravure? In the same way that just because a TV ad involves acting does not mean we call it "drama", so just because a TV ad involves fanservice does not mean we call it "gravure". In the same way that drama should refer to acting for the sake of storytelling (as opposed to sales pitching), so gravure should refer to fanservice for the sake of escapism (as opposed to sales pitching).

In my opinion, the world depicted in gravure should be a minimally economic world. Some gravure videos involve extensive shopping scenes, which to me is already skating on thin ice. If the gravure idol additionally starts haggling for discounts etc. on camera, the atmosphere is ruined.
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« Reply #67 on: January 11, 2026, 05:55:15 pm »
What happened to "children are innocent" and "adults are corrupt"? Why would you want to allow mature, adulterated individuals to go into intimate relationships with the young and vulnerable?
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« Reply #68 on: January 11, 2026, 07:19:39 pm »
To prohibit a voluntary relationship would be to initiate violence.

See also The Tower Crow's post:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-eroticism-sexuality-2463/msg27764/#msg27764
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