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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2023, 02:25:24 am »
"western politicians [the peopel who support israel and neo colonialsm] are 'maps' themselves"

They also drink water. Should we ban water?

"the story itself being fiction means the kids being suggestive asf dont exist?"

No, it means the Western filmmakers can use the story as their excuse. Non-Western gravure filmmakers do not need to hide behind an excuse. This tells us that the former's society is more MAP-phobic than the latter's.

"r u a national socialist or a libertarian"

I am a National Socialist:

Goebbels on moral excesses.
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More Morality, Less Moralism!
by Joseph Goebbels
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This moralism often has nothing in common with true morality. They proclaim ethical laws that might be appropriate for a nunnery, but are entirely out of place in a modern cultural state.

An example. In a major central German city an advertising poster for a soap company showed a fresh, attractive girl holding the soap package in her hands. A moral knight who unfortunately had the right to determine the fate of this poster forbade its distribution on the ground that it offended the moral sensibilities of the population, since the woman in the poster was holding the soap in a place “that for moral reasons cannot be described more precisely.”

What is moral about this? The person announcing the ban, who presumes that other people share his dirty fantasies, or the German people and the National Socialist movement, that are rightly upset and in opposition to such a ridiculous action?
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These same moralists often turn to government offices with the request to ban films, plays, operas, and operettas, since the dancers, stars, etc., apparently represent a grave danger to public decency. If we gave in to their demands, we should soon see only old ladies and men on the screen or the stage. The theaters would be empty, since the public generally does not attend them to see the same people they see in church or old people’s homes.
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No one can suspect us of wanting to live lives of ostentation or luxury. The Führer and many of his close comrades neither smoke nor drink nor enjoy sumptuous living. Those, however, who want to rob a nation of sixty million of every pleasure and all traces of optimism are contemptible
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To take joy and pleasure from a people means to make it unfit for its struggle for its daily bread.

He who does that sins against our reconstruction efforts and embarrasses the National Socialist state before the whole world.

The result would be a dreary impoverishment of our public life. That we will not accept.
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That is why we shake off the agents of a prudish hypocrisy
, why we do not allow decent, hard-working people who have every reason to need relief from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every day, to have their necessary pleasures ruined by the eternal chicanery of these pedants.

Libertarians are the ones who want to give parents maximal power over their own offspring, and hence distrust the state (which they perceive as limiting parental power).

"if you want if from horse mouth:"

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Today, President Biden signed a Presidential Memorandum directing all U.S. government departments and agencies engaged abroad to ensure that U.S. diplomacy and foreign assistance promote and protect the human rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersex (LGBTQI+) persons around the world.

The struggle to end violence, discrimination, criminalization, and stigma against LGBTQI+ persons is a global challenge that remains central to our commitment to promote human rights and fundamental freedoms for all individuals.  In the Biden-Harris administration, the United States will lead by the power of our example and pursue a policy to end violence and discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, or sex characteristics.  Today’s action by President Biden demonstrates the U.S. government’s firm commitment to advance this goal.

Pursuant to President Biden’s memorandum, the Department of State in coordination with relevant federal agencies will use a broad range of diplomatic and programmatic tools and resources to protect vulnerable LGBTQI+ refugees and asylum seekers; combat criminalization of individuals on the basis of LGBTQI+ status or conduct; ensure that our diplomacy and foreign assistance promote and protect the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons and advance nondiscrimination; and allow swift U.S. responses to human rights violations and abuses of LGBTQI+ persons.

Working with Congress, the State Department is taking the necessary steps to provide $10 million in Fiscal Year 2021 funds for the Global Equality Fund (GEF). The GEF provides emergency assistance to human rights defenders and human rights programming support to grassroots LGBTQI+ organizations to catalyze positive change and draws its strength from the support and partnership of an international coalition of like-minded governments, businesses, and foundations.

Under President Biden’s leadership, the United States will work with like-minded governments and strengthen civil society advocacy to fully support and advance the human rights of LGBTQI+ persons.  Our international partners can be assured that advancing human rights for all individuals, with no exception or caveat, is a U.S. foreign policy priority.

I support this. It is a product of the Counterculture. It is you who consider it a "psyop".

"yes the fact that what you said literaly is not the definition of pedophilia and 'map'. . this is false dichotomy. you want peopel to pretend there's 'good and bad pedophilia', bc if they chose one of the other its still pedophilia"

You are illiterate.

"no i am saying that early sexualization is early adulteration"

Adulteration of whom? The performer or the spectator?

"no i am saying tat in the real world where pedophilia is legal, kids r going to be epxloited'"

Should we ban Masterchef Junior as well? If not, why give chances to kids who want to become future chefs but not to kids who want to become future idols?

"consent is not enough"

It is now on the record that you support initiating violence.

"and again I am saying u are pretending that any kid doing 'gravure' voluntarily does and will not b pressurd"

If you are sincerely worried about that, the answer is to give kids economic independence so that parents cannot exert pressure on them to do ANY activity. I have already proposed this in the past. But you do not seem worried about kids being pressured to do other voluntary activities (again, are you going to ban Masterchef Junior?), which is why I am not convinced that you are arguing in good faith.

I will give you one more chance: if you could be 100% sure that all kids doing gravure are genuinely doing it voluntarily, would you then be fine with it?
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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2023, 04:04:24 am »
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i do big stinky. . u were the one saying peopel should drugs so we kno they are bad genes. stupid

Where did I say that?

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no i am saying tat in the real world where pedophilia is legal, kids r going to be epxloited'

Children will continue to be exploited in this world regardless of what is and what is not legal because people like you exist in this world. You have no problem with initiated violence as 90SRF has already started pointing out. By the way, in this world, initiated violence is often legal. Is that why you have no problem with it?

I'm getting the same vibes from you I get from "Pro-Life" right-wingers who support Israel dropping bombs on Palestinian children. The same vibes as "Pro-Life" rightists who all eat meat, etc.

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« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2023, 08:54:30 am »
'They also drink water. Should we ban water?'

dishonest false equivalence. unless of course u feel you need child p*rn as much as u need water.. in any case i have proven that anti pedophilia is not uniquelly western if any thing the opposite

'No, it means the Western filmmakers can use the story as their excuse. Non-Western gravure filmmakers do not need to hide behind an excuse. This tells us that the former's society is more MAP-phobic than the latter's.'

yes peopel hate pedophilia in the US more than in japan. this is not a bad thing.

and i promise u that even the makers of cuties have nevr said 'um well it was a fictional story so the live action scenes of lil girls being suggestive doesnt count'. u urself dont even buy that. animating young looking girls who are supposedly in theyre 20s is 'plausible deniability', recording real life girls being weird is not. it being under 'fiction' does not change the fact that girls are being sexualized. it does not make a difference. besides, even ur 'non western gravure film makers' media is under staged fiction and is not creep shot voyeurism either

'https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/goeb60.html'

he is talking about theaters and women in advertising, not pedophilia nitwit. NSDAP purged sexual degeneracy like pedophilia

'Libertarians are the ones who want to give parents maximal power over their own offspring, and hence distrust the state (which they perceive as limiting parental power).'

libertarians also think that any economic or sexual transaction is ok as long as 'consent', even if degenerate bc they care more about liberty aka hedonism than freedom like u

'I support this. It is a product of the Counterculture. It is you who consider it a "psyop".'

i dont care, this proves that the west uses lgbt as a tool. the west will parade lgbt rights and then bomb the middle east. how counterculture of them

'You are illiterate.'

no nigga u r just mad i dont buy into ur personal definition of pre existing words  ;D

'Adulteration of whom? The performer or the spectator?'

both, especialy performer

'Should we ban Masterchef Junior as well? If not, why give chances to kids who want to become future chefs but not to kids who want to become future idols?'

chopping onion better than being molested

'It is now on the record that you support initiating violence.'

and u are the one on recording advocatng 4 chikld prostituion. agin u have no understanding of childcare if u think giving kid candy 4 s*x is in best interest of kid

'But you do not seem worried about kids being pressured to do other voluntary activities (again, are you going to ban Masterchef Junior?), which is why I am not convinced that you are arguing in good faith.'

i am. but pedophilia takes priority bc its worse. ther is difference between tv show wher kid walks into radioactive wasteland and life long illness, and cooking show

'I will give you one more chance: if you could be 100% sure that all kids doing gravure are genuinely doing it voluntarily, would you then be fine with it?'

no. u will not have pure NS state if u rely on non aggression principle alone. i do not want ancap pedophilia society. otherwise, what is the point of any of this?

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« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2023, 06:32:27 pm »
"yes peopel hate pedophilia in the US more than in japan. this is not a bad thing."

Next, would you agree that, within the US, Red states are more MAP-phobic than Blue states?

"even the makers of cuties have nevr said 'um well it was a fictional story so the live action scenes of lil girls being suggestive doesnt count'"

en.wikipedia.org


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She says that the film deals with self-image and social media. "Our girls see that the more a woman is overly sexualised on social media, the more she's successful. And the children just imitate what they see, trying to achieve the same result without understanding the meaning, and yeah, it's dangerous."[10] She says that although watching the film may be difficult, it is important to have a conversation in society about these issues.[8]

What she doesn't say is: "Fanservice for sale!" Non-Western Gravure filmmakers have no problem saying this, which is why I respect the latter more.

"even ur 'non western gravure film makers' media is under staged fiction"

Untrue. Gravure performers are classified as models, not as actors:

en.wikipedia.org


"he is talking about theaters and women in advertising, not pedophilia nitwit."

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we do not allow decent, hard-working people who have every reason to need relief from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every day, to have their necessary pleasures ruined by the eternal chicanery of these pedants.

This is a near-perfect description of the role gravure plays in society. If you ban gravure, you will ruin gravure fans' R&R.

"libertarians also think that any economic or sexual transaction is ok as long as 'consent'"

No, libertarians believe it is the parents who get to do the consenting on behalf of their children.

"this proves that the west uses lgbt as a tool"

Why can't it be a sincere concern?

"i dont buy into ur personal definition of pre existing words"

You buy into the Western definition. But at the same time you refuse to admit to thinking like a Westerner.

"both, especialy performer"

Point out (provide time intervals) in my example video:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/eroticism-sexuality/msg20345/#msg20345

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where Miyama is being adulterated, and explain precisely (provide as much detail as possible) which actions are adulterating and why.

"chopping onion better than being molested"

Why should we have any reason to believe that gravure idols are being molested but Masterchef Junior contestants are not? If anything, contestants would have more incentive to offer sexual favours to judges to gain an unfair advantage over other contestants.
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« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2023, 08:45:51 pm »
Okay so seeing as how this originally started with me posting that Filthy Frank song to troll, but quickly turned into a real argument, I'm going to drop the ESL meme. To those reading this, your man here is a pedophiile who openly supports child prostitutiion. No one ever became an Aryanist for this, not even AS himself. I hope this gives you retards some pause.
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>Next, would you agree that, within the US, Red states are more MAP-phobic than Blue states?

No. I can talk about creepy drag queen story hour narrators just as easily as I can talk about creepy Sunday school teachers. I can talk about Democrats (literally) being in bed with Epstein just as much as I can talk about Republicans doing the same.

>What she doesn't say is: "Fanservice for sale!" Non-Western Gravure filmmakers have no problem saying this, which is why I respect the latter more.

Hey buddy that's really cool, you like honest degenerates more than dishonest degenerates. That's deep. Its a shame all those lamp posts don't care.

>This is a near-perfect description of the role gravure plays in society. If you ban gravure, you will ruin gravure fans' R&R.

Cry me a river. The NSDAP also ruined the "R&R" of the subversive Jews polluting German society, are you going to mourn that and demonize the NSDAP?

>Why can't it be a sincere concern?

Because its NATO you idiot.

>You buy into the Western definition. But at the same time you refuse to admit to thinking like a Westerner.


Nice cope. Conventional word definitions do not speak for all of the West, and you do not speak for all of the non-Western world.

>Point out (provide time intervals) in my example video... where Miyama is being adulterated, and explain precisely (provide as much detail as possible) which actions are adulterating and why.

Sorry kike, I am not going to timestamp for you. I am not going to give you fap material. Your old self would prefer the "you" today to be dead.



A new video reopens discussion on an ongoing problem
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>Why should we have any reason to believe that gravure idols are being molested but Masterchef Junior contestants are not? If anything, contestants would have more incentive to offer sexual favours to judges to gain an unfair advantage over other contestants.


It isn't a stretch to think kids being sexually exploited are being sexually exploited.

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« Reply #20 on: November 23, 2023, 10:02:20 pm »
"Okay so seeing as how this originally started with me posting that Filthy Frank song to troll"

Thank you for proving me correct:

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I am not convinced that you are arguing in good faith.

"openly supports child prostitutiion"

That is old news:

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“Aryanism.Net dedicates a blog entry to the vandalization of a mosque and a ZC organization that is reacting to a jew-invented problem. Ok. Could someone please explain to me why there was no blog entry last August, when it was discovered that 1400 English children had been sexually abused for years in Rotherham, UK by people of “Pakistani heritage”?”

Because nobody is calling for **** – it’s either **** (no consent) or it’s not (consent); we do not use such vague terms as “sexual abuse”

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“The Rotherham scandal is not a hoax.”

The ignored scandal is that consensual sex is punishable by law if one side regrets it later.

But you are illiterate so maybe you missed it.

"I can talk about Democrats (literally) being in bed with Epstein just as much as I can talk about Republicans doing the same."

The question is not which side has more MAPs, but which side uses more MAP-phobia in its rhetoric (answer: Red by far). But you are illiterate so maybe you did not understand the question.

"you like honest degenerates"

I am still waiting for you to explain what is degenerate about gravure.

"The NSDAP also ruined the "R&R" of the subversive Jews polluting German society"

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hard-working people who have every reason to need relief from their hard daily labors, who need to reaffirm life, to recover from the weariness, cares, and burdens of every day

Does this sound like a description of Jews, which the NSDAP condemned principally for profiting from non-labour-based means? But you are illiterate, so maybe it does to you.

"Because its NATO you idiot."



"I am not going to timestamp for you."

I will take that as failure to substantiate your claim.

"Your old self would prefer the "you" today to be dead."

My old self was watching gravure on VCD and even VHS.

"kids being sexually exploited"

Yet you failed to point out where on the example video this occurs.
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2023, 09:24:59 am »
>Thank you for proving me correct

Like I said, this started as a troll but became a serious conversation. If you cannot comprehend this, then perhaps you are illiterate.

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Telling how you have to find small segments from your own long ass comments from five to nine years ago from two random blog articles (out of countless others) with 122/40 other comments on them to weakly back this up. Notice how this pro-pedo stance never was expressly stated on the main site. Although, I'm betting that you're going to now twist the semantics of a small sentence from it to your favor with a lot of logical leaps of faith (which says a lot in itself). At the very least, my points remains that if this supposedly long-time pro-pedophilia stance was open from the beginning, most people here probably would never have became Aryanists to begin with; this is not what we became Aryanists for.

>The question is not which side has more MAPs, but which side uses more MAP-phobia in its rhetoric (answer: Red by far). But you are illiterate so maybe you did not understand the question.

I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it because its irrelevant. Rhetoric alone does not fully describe which side has more pedos, and reality is more nuanced than you think; voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100% evil by default. Amazing how much you jack off the Democratic party as if they aren't the Jew-loving neoliberals that they are. Besides, morality is based off of absolute values. It is not relative to what our enemies like or dislike. You might be reactionary, but I am not.

>https://a.pinatafarm.com/800x450/188a0e1e38/alex-jones-65e63ecce8b27345f4712cc869d8f21f-meme.jpeg

le funny Alex Jones picture is not an argument. I don't believe the person who has read Savitri Devi while saying "WESTERN CIVILIZATION MUST DIE!" for years is unaware that Western hypocrisy exists. You lost.

>Does this sound like a description of Jews, which the NSDAP condemned principally for profiting from non-labour-based means? But you are illiterate, so maybe it does to you.

In the very quote you provided, Goebbels is clearly talking about women in advertising and cinema, not pedophilia. I know you really want to pretend that he was pro-pedo by twisting words, but if he was, he would have outright just said so. He was not defending the pink triangles he helped put in concentration camps.

>I will take that as failure to substantiate your claim.


If media of children is made to make them sexually tantalizing, then I do not need to provided specific timestamps in said media to prove that they are being sexualized. If you want specifics, look at that Cuties video I sent. Furthermore, you have failed to address the point that sexualization of children counter original nobility. Do you think no one notices it when you try to derail from points you cannot disprove?

>My old self was watching gravure on VCD and even VHS.


Child gravure? How convenient. Sounds like you just admitted to possessing child pornography.

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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2023, 12:41:05 pm »
"this started as a troll but became a serious conversation."

I do not take liars seriously when they subsequently claim to tell the truth.

"main site"

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Far-rightists, in their pseudo-moralistic aggression towards sundry non-violent sexual preferences that do not happen to be their own preferences, to the extent of calling for violence against people with such preferences, are merely the other side of the same degenerate coin. In contrast, a genuinely healthy True Left society is one where no non-violent sexual preference is worth any more attention than a preference for a particular screensaver or a particular ringtone.

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It is not prudery that we demand of society and its lifestyle, insofar as prudery attacks non-violent sexual activity while turning a blind eye to (or worse, outright glorifying) the violence of reproduction.

"if this supposedly long-time pro-pedophilia stance was open from the beginning, most people here probably would never have became Aryanists to begin with; this is not what we became Aryanists for."

Do you understand that the ideal of violence never being initiated logically necessitates being accepting of all non-violent sexual preferences? Either you share our ideal or you don't.

"I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it"

This is why I do not take you seriously.

"voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100% evil by default"

You are still illiterate. This is about demonstrating a positive correlation between pro-Westernism (which Reds constantly include in their rhetoric) and MAP-phobia (which Reds constantly include in their rhetoric), compared to Blues who are both more critical of Western civilization and less MAP-phobic.

"Goebbels is clearly talking about women in advertising and cinema, not pedophilia."

He is talking about the role of pleasant imagery in general. You are as illiterate when reading Goebbels as when reading the main site.

"If media of children is made to make them sexually tantalizing, then I do not need to provided specific timestamps in said media to prove that they are being sexualized."

Trump similarly does not feel any need to provide evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. That Biden was campaigning is enough for him.

"Sounds like you just admitted to possessing child pornography."

It sounds like that to you because you are illiterate. And a Westerner:

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From a westerner’s perspective it is difficult to understand how an industry that uses such young models can thrive without a public outcry to what would be considered the exploitation of minors. However, it is important to note the cultural differences that make gravure idols such a popular and widely accepted aspect of Japanese media.

Contrary to AV (Adult Video) idols, gravure idols do not pose for **** photography or engage in sexual acts. Although they often do not leave much to the imagination, gravure photography is not considered pornographic.
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2023, 06:08:17 pm »
Why do you want to kill me so bad?

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« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2023, 09:30:47 pm »
>I do not take liars seriously when they subsequently claim to tell the truth.



>where no non-violent sexual preference is worth any more attention than a preference for a particular screensaver or a particular ringtone... Do you understand that the ideal of violence never being initiated logically necessitates being accepting of all non-violent sexual preferences? Either you share our ideal or you don't.

This applies to LGBT and recreational sex, not pedophilia. The initiatory/retaliatory violence dichotomy is crucial, but it does not cover life's nuances. If I am "violent" for wanting to stop a kid from jumping into a pit of punji sticks and (at best) suffering lifelong physical and emotional scars because of it, then so be it.

But you are kidding yourself if you seriously believe that Aryanism does not support any initiatory violence itself. For instance, you can be non-violently racist by adhering to your tribe's clothing, food, music, culture, superstition, Et cetera by not hurting anyone or anything. But as monoculturalists, we know that even "non-violent racism" is bad in itself. Why? Because racism is still the prioritization of selfishness over honor. And in the real world, "non-violent racism" very quickly turns into tribalism and all the cruelty it entails. Just as we know that even "non-violent pedophilia" is bad in itself, as it is obscenely exploitative and easily one of the worse ways to adulterate original nobility. In the real world, your "non-violent pedophilia" quickly turns into child r@pe and human trafficking. "Plausible deniability" doesn't mean shít.

>This is why I do not take you seriously...This is about demonstrating a positive correlation between pro-Westernism (which Reds constantly include in their rhetoric) and MAP-phobia (which Reds constantly include in their rhetoric), compared to Blues who are both more critical of Western civilization and less MAP-phobic.

Dude you're just mad I knew what you wanted me to say and recognized it to be inherently fallacious. This doesn't make me "illiterate", as you are so anally fixated on saying. This means you are wrong. Move on. So in the spirit of Christmas, I'll reiterate what I said before:

"I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it because its irrelevant. Rhetoric alone does not fully describe which side has more pedos, and reality is more nuanced than you think; voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100% evil by default. Amazing how much you jack off the Democratic party as if they aren't the Jew-loving neoliberals that they are. Besides, morality is based off of absolute values. It is not relative to what our enemies like or dislike. You might be reactionary, but I am not."


>He is talking about the role of pleasant imagery in general.

If you need him to  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>Trump similarly does not feel any need to provide evidence that the 2020 election was stolen. That Biden was campaigning is enough for him.

Cool Reddit analogy bro. But, I will add that kids don't need to be naked for "child gravure" to be problematic. Otherwise, I will reiterate:

"If media of children is made to make them sexually tantalizing, then I do not need to provided specific timestamps in said media to prove that they are being sexualized. If you want specifics, look at that Cuties video I sent. Furthermore, you have failed to address the point that the sexualization of children counter original nobility. Do you think no one notices it when you try to derail from points you cannot disprove?"


>It sounds like that to you because you are illiterate. And a Westerner:

Aha! Your good friend plausible deniability is here to say that "soft" child pörn doesn't count because it requires... "imagination"...? For some reason, I'm not very convinced that you don't have any cp tucked away or legally accessible somewhere. And I don't think anyone else here is very convinced either, even @rp. Aren't you? I bet you are.

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« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2023, 10:04:32 pm »
"This applies to LGBT and recreational sex, not pedophilia."

If you allow yourself to make arbitrary exceptions to a principle, you do not believe in that principle.

""non-violent pedophilia" is bad in itself, as it is obscenely exploitative and easily one of the worse ways to adulterate original nobility"

I am still waiting for you to explain how.

"inherently fallacious"

How?

"you are wrong"
 
How?

"kids don't need to be naked for "child gravure" to be problematic."

Problematic to Westerners, such as yourself.

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« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2023, 10:40:28 pm »
You know Stirling lost when he can't derail any longer so you just repeat what he is trying to ignore until he shíts the bed  ;)
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>If you allow yourself to make arbitrary exceptions to a principle, you do not believe in that principle.

LOL SAYS YOU NIGGA!!!!! GAHAHHAHAHAHAHA you flaunt Aryanism and make up crap on the spot all of the time. Only my exception is NOT "arbitrary", nor are the other exceptions Aryanism makes:

"This applies to LGBT and recreational sex, not pedophilia. The initiatory/retaliatory violence dichotomy is crucial, but it does not cover life's nuances. If I am "violent" for wanting to stop a kid from jumping into a pit of punji sticks and (at best) suffering lifelong physical and emotional scars because of it, then so be it.

But you are kidding yourself if you seriously believe that Aryanism does not support any initiatory violence itself. For instance, you can be non-violently racist by adhering to your tribe's clothing, food, music, culture, superstition, Et cetera by not hurting anyone or anything. But as monoculturalists, we know that even "non-violent racism" is bad in itself. Why? Because racism is still the prioritization of selfishness over honor. And in the real world, "non-violent racism" very quickly turns into tribalism and all the cruelty it entails. Just as we know that even "non-violent pedophilia" is bad in itself, as it is obscenely exploitative and easily one of the worse ways to adulterate original nobility. In the real world, your "non-violent pedophilia" quickly turns into child r@pe and human trafficking. "Plausible deniability" doesn't mean shít."


>I am still waiting for you to explain how.

How does HEDONISM and SEXUAL ASSAULT counter ORIGINAL NOBILITY? WHAT? I am not arguing about this, sexual hedonism is antithetical to the spiritually minded nature of original nobility. Keep on running your mouth you rotting old ḟaggot.

>"inherently fallacious" How?... "you are wrong" How?

"I understood you were asking about rhetoric but ignored it because its irrelevant. Rhetoric alone does not fully describe which side has more pedos, and reality is more nuanced than you think; voting Republican does not make someone or a state 100% evil by default. Amazing how much you jack off the Democratic party as if they aren't the Jew-loving neoliberals that they are. Besides, morality is based off of absolute values. It is not relative to what our enemies like or dislike. You might be reactionary, but I am not."

>Problematic to Westerners, such as yourself.

Problematic to Aryanists. If your life ever amounted to anything you wouldn't be spending hours shítposting everyday on an obscure trying to slowly convince (four) people that pedophilia is okay. I'm better than you, and I think you should cut yourself. I think you should hurt yourself. I think you'd be really good at it.

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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2023, 11:06:41 pm »
"I am not arguing about this"

This is why I do not take you seriously.

"Problematic to Aryanists."

Initiated violence is problematic to Aryanists. Initiated violence is what you have admitted you want you do to people with non-violent sexual preferences that you dislike. Therefore you are problematic to Aryanists.

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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2023, 11:40:24 pm »
I'm not a **** if that's what your trying to imply.

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Re: Eroticism =/= sexuality
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2023, 03:13:51 am »
BRACE YOURSELVES!!! Look how short these dresses are and in the second photo we can see female nipples. Better delete this post Vrily might be contemplating exploiting one of these girls...  ::) ;D





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