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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2022, 02:13:40 am »
I suddenly remembered that in the Orochi saga of the KOF series, the villains had their moves written in Cyrillic:

https://snk.fandom.com/wiki/Hakkesshu

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The Four Heavenly Kings of Orochi (オロチ四天王, Orochi Shiten-ō) are the four strongest warriors in the Hakkesshu among The Eight Heads. They control elements of nature, possess some of Orochi's original abilities, and can activate the Riot of the Blood in people who are susceptible to it, and/or use the state for themselves. Orochi can probably incarnate in them, as he did with Chris. All of their moves are all written using the Cyrillic alphabet.
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Except for certain characters, the movesets of all Orochi-awakened versions of the Hakkeshu (and even Orochi itself) are almost always written in Cyrillic, which is a Russian/Slavic writing script. There are currently no explanations as to why this is used, whether in-universe or from SNK.

See the move lists here:

http://you.lolipop.jp/s/kof/kof97/orochi.html

Low-key anti-Turanism was almost a standard side attitude back in those days. The BGM of their stage is also a good reflection of what we thought of them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzyf11a24b0
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #31 on: April 30, 2022, 02:36:11 am »
New Zelda game "Breath of The Wild" is dripping with Turanian blood memory:
https://youtu.be/i_pTqQf53zA
I was pretty excited for the game, but when playing it, something just didn't sit right with me. Perhaps it was the hunting, which is required to obtain food in the game? The horseback riding in the grassy steppes was also unsettling because I knew the non-Aryans (who called themsleves "Aryan") who did this practice in prehistoric times were very violent. Then after reading Aryan Diffusion, I realized that this was indeed a glorification of Turanism.

The only reason why I played the game was because of its story, which itself was lackluster.

This illustrates how even non-Western developers are now creating games that appeal primarily to the sensiblites of Westerners. This game is part of the broader "open-world" trend in video games overall, which seeks to create more and more expansive worlds for Westerners to "explore".
You don't have to hunt or ride a horse in Breath of the Wild. Both are optional. And Open-world sandbox games only exist to give players creative license to enjoy the game in their own way.

On a similar note, why is equestrianism bad? Don't ranchers bend over backwards to care for their horses?

In other words, open-world games are Yahwist simulators. I had a crisis during my teenage years, when I was depressed that video games weren't giving me the satisfaction that they used to when I was a child. So I turned to the "open-world" genre in the hopes that it would be the best way to "perfect" the flaws in the games that I was playing by creating a more "complete" world, in contrast to the older games which (I felt) could not create the "complete" fictional worlds that I was looking for due to the hardware limitations. The only thing is, I quickly realized that "completeness" could never be achieved with open-world games because the entire concept is making the worlds more expansive and realistic as the hardware improves*. The games themselves (such as BoTw) also have no purpose other than exploration, which is reflected in the game's lackluster storyline (which in effect means it has no purpose at all, since there is no completion point). In contrast, at least non open-world 3D games such as Mario have a completion point such as getting x amount of stars to complete the game. The latter was what appealed to me as a child.

*Western evaluation of game quality is also centered around this theme, with each new game being evaluated based on how much the graphics have improved compared to the last generation, as opposed to evaluating the games relative to a fixed ideal.
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2022, 06:21:05 pm »
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In other words, open-world games are Yahwist simulators.
Please explain how open-world games are 'Yahwist simulators'.

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I had a crisis during my teenage years, when I was depressed that video games weren't giving me the satisfaction that they used to when I was a child. So I turned to the "open-world" genre in the hopes that it would be the best way to "perfect" the flaws in the games that I was playing by creating a more "complete" world, in contrast to the older games which (I felt) could not create the "complete" fictional worlds that I was looking for due to the hardware limitations.
Most open world games are complete at launch. You complete the story (pre and post end credits), you do all the side quests, and then you turn off the game and play something else (unless there's New Game Plus, where which you repeat the above two steps with your character data from your first playthrough or new features in the second).

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The only thing is, I quickly realized that "completeness" could never be achieved with open-world games because the entire concept is making the worlds more expansive and realistic as the hardware improves (Western evaluation of game quality is also centered around this theme, with each new game being evaluated based on how much the graphics have improved compared to the last generation, as opposed to evaluating the games relative to a fixed ideal).
Only triple-A GUILD (Greed, Uninspiredness, Ineptitude/Incompetence/Incapability, Laziness, Dishonesty) syndrome companies do that, and the gaming community hates them for it. Just look at Dunkey's video on Assassin's Creed. Just look at any of the latest critique videos about Far Cry, Watch Dogs, Anthem, No Man's Sky (this game actually made a recovery but it's still grindy and repetitive), or Cyberpunk 2077. Just look at Yahtzee Croshaw's assessment of the traditional open world formula as the 'Jiminy Cóckthroat'. You speak ill of open world games like you're the only person in the world who hates open world games. You aren't.

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The games themselves (such as BoTw) also have no purpose other than exploration, which is reflected in the game's lackluster storyline (which in effect means it has no purpose at all, since there is no completion point).
Again, only triple-A companies make the kind of open world game you're describing. And Breath of the Wild does have a completion point; it's theorized that the collection sidequests are there to mock the player for wasting time collecting worthless items. But to be fair, you at least have to agree to the fact the one of the hallmarks of gaming is discovery. Whether you find a hidden room in a dungeon or a dungeon itself hidden, people like discovery, not just in games, but in real life.

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In contrast, at least non open-world 3D games such as Mario have a completion point such as getting x amount of stars to complete the game. The latter was what appealed to me as a child.
It should be noted that only a handful of games that you're describing are endless, and some games are situated in a way where you can, as I mentioned earlier, begin a second/third/etc. playthrough whilst retaining your character data (this is why you can usually traverse the open world after you've completed the story). The hallmark of a good videogame its its replay value.
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« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2022, 07:28:46 pm »
Entertainment purposes only. What kind of a mind and personality creates a game like this, 3D graphics aside?  :D

Worst MMO Ever? - Wurm Online
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EabgdEkj6bM

This will make an Aryanist laugh I'm sure of it....

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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2022, 04:12:39 pm »
For anyone who can stomach modern video game graphics and open world gaming, I would highly recommend The Elder Scrolls VI: Oblivion. Could definitely be improved but the main storyline is excellent, and the game itself has a whimsical feel throughout.

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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2022, 05:13:35 pm »
All the way back here:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/fighticewithfire/comment-page-1/#comment-174945

I was saying:

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do you know River City Ransom?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7xeGpoCScs

This is also a good example of my previous point. Compare the non-Western and Western promo illustrations for this same game:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Downtown_Nekketsu_Monogatari_game_cover.jpg

http://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/large/1343826701-00.jpg

Already you can see the difference in perception. In Western eyes, the in-game 2D (including SD characters) are a poor graphical representation (due to insufficient computer power) of what is ‘actually’ supposed to be 3D (and non-SD), which is why its promo illustration depicts them this way. This is hubris. In non-Western eyes, on the other hand, the 2D/SD are entirely satisfactory as-is, hence its promo art feels no need to depict it differently than the in-game look.

This is not an isolated case; this was a consistent pattern of divergence back in the 80s. Here is the gameplay of Athena:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6NDmYzst_0

And the contrasting promo illustrations (I don’t even need to say which is the Western one):

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/snk/images/2/27/Athena_flyer.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080805205149

https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/snk/images/f/ff/Princess_with_pointy_ears_%26_muscles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20131122205727

Exact same phenomenon. Clearly the non-Western mind is content with the in-game 2D, whereas the Western mind considers the in-game 2D to be merely an immature phase along the way of progress towards 3D – it was just a matter of waiting for computer power to be able to render 3D and thereby catch up with its promo illustration.

Fast forward to the 90s, and the popularity of the Street Fighter games spawned numerous imitations by other companies.

Non-Western imitations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abH5V6TofJU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac65Nf9HmKI

Western imitations:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW7r2w8SsN0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgTLx2-rM1w

Exact same phenomenon again, except now computer power is gradually becoming sufficient to support the Western vision, so now it is an issue of non-Western developers choosing to stick with 2D despite 3D being available (and increasingly more convenient to animate in than 2D where sprites have to be drawn frame by frame).

If you need another example, compare the non-Western treatment of the Alien vs Predator concept:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFAa3BE8230

with the Western treatment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlZTfQAQaoY

It’s as though the Western aim is to create within virtual space yet another material world as realistic as the real material world, whereas the non-Western aim is to use virtual space to help people momentarily forget the real material world in favour of a much simpler world.

Now we have definitive proof:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcfz2z_MoqQ

Westerners are incapable of feeling inside something unless it is in 3D. I myself have also dreamed about being inside Legend of Zelda, but everything was still 2D in my dream. Who is correct? I am, of course, since the original game itself is 2D!

But of course Westerners will never understand this:

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I had this dream a LONG time ago, I need to make this a reality. You are literally "living the dream".

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This is kinda how I looked at the world of Zelda when I was a kid. My imagination took over. This is awesome.

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This made my freaking day!!!  I love that someone went to the effort of recreating Legend of Zelda in first person VR.  I couldn't take my eyes off the screen.  That looks like so much fun!!!

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If they ever make a Metroid version of this , im retiring early and living out my days playing it.

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This is the greatest thing I've ever seen...    Friday the 13th for the NES in VR would be insane...

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Can you imagine a VR version of Link to the Past like this? That would be amazing!

No, the original 2D versions are how the games were meant to be. One more time, 2D is not (contrary to Western presumptions) a constraint; it is an ideal of its own!

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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #36 on: November 26, 2022, 02:57:42 pm »
I still like 3D games, though.
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« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2022, 04:11:18 pm »
I came across a quote online from a book that I think encapsulates how @90sRetroFan feels about their era perfectly:

“History is hard to know, because of all the hired bullshit, but even without being sure of “history” it seems entirely reasonable to think that every now and then the energy of a whole generation comes to a head in a long fine flash, for reasons that nobody really understands at the time—and which never explain, in retrospect, what actually happened. … There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave.

So now, less than five years later, you can go up on a steep hill in Las Vegas and look West, and with the right kind of eyes you can almost see the high-water mark—that place where the wave finally broke and rolled back.”

Essentially, this whole passage can be boiled down to the tagline of our Counterculture Era thread: “when western civilization was meant to have died peacefully”

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Even though I was born right at the second millennium, so the post-9/11 world is really the only world that I truly know, and this book quote is referring to the counterculture of the 60s, I sometimes keep myself awake longer than I should be by going on a 90s kick. Honestly, this current era well and truly terrifies me. There’s something so isolating about how the internet has managed to fit itself into our society. Almost every place that human beings used to congregate in the flesh is now dead or dying because of the internet. Even monuments to western consumerism like malls are in zombified, decrepit states almost everywhere. The functions that these places used to provide can largely be accessed through online services. The grocery store is really the only place that people actually go to on a regular basis anymore, and even then, grocery stores were never used for interacting with people. Things are only going to get worse as VR technology improves. There will soon come a time where not only will we spend most of our time in total isolation, but even when we do “leave the house”, it’ll be for virtual environments surrounded by virtual people

Sometimes, I wish that we were all born at the same time, going to the same schools. Doesn’t even have to be in the 90s, although it’d be pretty sweet for all of us, including the 2000s babies, to relive 90sRetroFan’s youth. If the best of us had all been given the chance to grow up together and support each other, I have no doubt that tens of novels could have been written about what we would’ve gotten up to, and I probably would have cherished those memories my whole life.

But the reality is that life often robs us of romantic lives and leaves us with bland or even terrible youths. My reality was that I spent my youth almost completely alone save for the biological family that I didn’t ask for, because I found it hard to socialize like everybody else and always felt misunderstood. I can’t really describe in words how much it hurts my heart sometimes when I think about how I’m here, in this world that sets such low expectations for how people should be and how life should be, instead of in that world that I sometimes experience every once in a while, where I’m having a dream that I don’t wanna wake up from. I don’t really know any of you on a personal level. We’re all just text tied to usernames at this point. But my interactions with the people here have been more meaningful than almost every real life interaction I’ve had in my entire life.

@90sRetroFan, and the others, thanks for being here. I’m not so sure I would’ve made it here and came to the same conclusions about the world, had that website not been written
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« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2022, 05:53:54 pm »
"There was a fantastic universal sense that whatever we were doing was right, that we were winning. And that, I think, was the handle—that sense of inevitable victory over the forces of Old and Evil. Not in any mean or military sense; we didn’t need that. Our energy would simply prevail. There was no point in fighting—on our side or theirs. We had all the momentum; we were riding the crest of a high and beautiful wave."

Yes, this really was how it felt back then.

"I sometimes keep myself awake longer than I should be by going on a 90s kick."

Please feel welcome to share/review stuff you have watched or ask for suggestions on what to watch next! This is one thing I intended the Counterculture era forum to be for, and so far it has been underused in this capacity!

"it’d be pretty sweet for all of us, including the 2000s babies, to relive 90sRetroFan’s youth."

Let's do it right here! I'm ready whenever anyone else is!

Here is an early Christmas present for you:

https://mangatoto.com/chapter/390142
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« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2022, 07:29:57 pm »
Thank you! I might have to read the rest of that. That chapter made a pretty good first impression. As for what spurred me to type out that long message, I have to come clean and admit that it was from rewatching that one live action Casper movie from 1995 last night:

https://youtu.be/33Ioa89EfNk

It doesn’t really have an important message to tell, but I remember watching this movie a long time ago when I was a kid, and being smitten by the ending. I also remember being frustrated at the forced trade-off of using the Lazarus to revive her dad instead of to give Casper a second chance at life, even when I was little. For some reason, I find bitter-sweet endings more depressing than purely sad ones. And the nostalgia combined with that feeling, put me in a weird headspace for the rest of that night and most of today, hence why I started looking back at stuff from my own childhood and from the 90s, and typed out that long message

And then, on the other hand, you have “romance” movies like Her, where the main premise is that some adulterated man falls in love with an AI. That movie kind of grosses me out, because the man who’s supposed to be the protagonist can only seem to connect with women, including the AI, through sex. I.E., the protagonist isn’t romantic at all. He’s not even likable. He suffers from the same thing that a lot of male protagonists in romance movies do: He’s nothing more than a bland stand-in that’s “relatable” (generic and adulterated) enough that most other men can self-insert themselves into the story. And it doesn’t help that the world is basically a dystopia, so you can’t even really enjoy the movie because it hits too close to home with how the near future is portrayed

I’d definitely be willing to take some suggestions. What do you consider mandatory watching and reading material, if I were to retrace your steps with the stuff that has gripped you from your youth and never really left?
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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #40 on: December 05, 2022, 10:52:41 pm »
Have you played the original Mike Tyson's Punch-Out for the NES? It's a worthwhile experience to complete the game at least once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF4qt6ce0Mo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D28evyhvKTI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciJMU8ALP0w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPMdts5p9tA



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Re: Is Counterculture Still Alive?
« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2022, 08:05:08 pm »
I don't know if any of you here like this kind of genre, but I recently found this song from a band that I like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ2f1txmG6o

"Woe to the strong who misuse their strength. Woe to the hunter, for they shall be hunted" - Jesus, Gospel of the Holy Twelve

Almost definitely a coincidence, but a very welcome one. And yes, the band itself is vegan. They started in the 90s and are still making music to this day. I can't adequately express just how much I respect people who were proudly vegan back when virtually nobody else was, and when eating plant-based was so much harder and "less convenient". Voice of the Voiceless is another good song by them about the same topic. Bonus song by another entirely separate band, if you jive more with punk than metal:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nVoi735qv8
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« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2022, 05:51:52 am »
Some media that hasn't been purged:
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/xLtCTpRua5Zb/

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Watchmen is an American superhero drama limited series based on the 1986 DC Comics series of the same title created by Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons. The TV series was created for HBO by Damon Lindelof, who also served as an executive producer and writer. Its ensemble cast includes Regina King, Don Johnson, Tim Blake Nelson, Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Andrew Howard, Jacob Ming-Trent, Tom Mison, Sara Vickers, Dylan Schombing, Louis Gossett Jr. and Jeremy Irons. Jean Smart and Hong Chau joined the cast in later episodes.

Lindelof likened the television series to a "remix" of the original comic series. While the series is technically a sequel that takes place 34 years after the events of the comics within the same alternate reality, Lindelof wanted to introduce new characters and conflicts which created a new story within the Watchmen continuity, rather than creating a reboot. The series focuses on events surrounding racist violence in present-day Tulsa, Oklahoma. A white supremacist group called the Seventh Kavalry has taken up arms against the Tulsa Police Department because of perceived racial injustices, causing the police to conceal their identities with masks to prevent the Seventh Kavalry from targeting them in their homes following the "White Night". Angela Abar (King), a detective known as Sister Night, investigates the murder of her friend and the chief of the police, Judd Crawford (Johnson), and discovers secrets regarding the situations around vigilantism...
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Premise

The series takes place 34 years after the events of the comic series. In the comic's alternate history of the 20th century, vigilantes, once seen as heroes, were outlawed due to their violent methods. In 1985, Adrian Veidt, formerly known as the vigilante Ozymandias, launched a false flag attack on New York City by creating an alien-looking squid monster which resulted in millions in the New York area being killed; this forced the nations to work together against a common threat, averting world war and a nuclear holocaust. Veidt's actions horrified his former companions, with Rorschach planning to tell the world what really happened before being vaporized by Doctor Manhattan, who then left the planet. Unbeknownst to Manhattan, Rorschach had already sent his journal detailing the events to the local newspaper.

The series is set in 2019 Tulsa, Oklahoma. The Seventh Kavalry, a white supremacist group inspired by Rorschach's writings and masked image (having misinterpreted his journal as a racist manifesto), wages violent war against minorities and the police that enforce special reparations for victims of racial injustice. On Christmas Eve 2016, during an event that came to be known as the "White Night", the Kavalry attacked the homes of 40 police officers working for the Tulsa Police Department.[1] Of those who survived, only two stayed with the force: Detective Angela Abar and Police Chief Judd Crawford.[2] As the police force was rebuilt, laws were passed that required police to not disclose their profession and to protect their identities while on the job by wearing masks, which included allowing for costumed police officers. As Crawford's police force attempts to crack down on the Seventh Kavalry, Abar finds herself at the center of two competing plots to kidnap Doctor Manhattan, who has been working with Hooded Justice, the original masked hero and survivor of the Tulsa massacre...[3]

In episode 2:
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In World War I, O.B., a soldier in the American army, pockets a piece of German propaganda challenging their racial equality (in the U.S.)...

The villain is a westerner!:
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[...]Meanwhile, the lord unsuccessfully tests a protective suit with a Phillips clone. He hunts down a bison for its thicker hide, but is stopped by the "Game Warden", who later writes to remind him of the terms of his imprisonment. The lord responds in a letter acknowledging these terms, signing it as Adrian Veidt and goes out to hunt again in his Ozymandias outfit...
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[...]Meanwhile, Veidt collects fetuses from a lake to grow new clones of Phillips and Crookshanks after killing off all of the existing ones. With their help, Veidt launches the dead bodies with a catapult to test the limits of his prison...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watchmen_(TV_series)

Lord Veidt: