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« Reply #466 on: April 13, 2025, 10:35:05 am »
“The music that has the greatest emotional impact on me is Counterculture music.”
Are you sure it’s not because it’s what you grew up with? Because the ones I knew who thought so were born in the middle of Counterculture (who’s outlook peaked in their teens right before 9/11).
If I’m wrong then maybe it could be because music has been more prominent in pop culture than music was in ancient times (which, along with pronunciation-dependent languages, survived less than pottery, architecture, clothing, visual artwork, pronunciation-independent languages, etc), so of course there’s going to be more counterculture music to chose from.
If you actually think Counterculture was the peak of culture, go ahead. But don’t be surprised if someone later than yourself with your current ranking thought the purpose wasn’t fulfilled and finds a later music culture better than Counterculture:

But then again, I got to do some self discovery to see if I’m worthy or not. I might be. I might not be. Who knows. I have to find out. I have to know myself and my qualities, discover my passion, and if there is something in need of fulfillment, then I might use my inner qualities to fulfill it. If there is something I’m passionate about, I would contribute faithfully. If I were to create, I’d have to already have been a fan. Just to be sure, it is what you said about Eurocentrist New China:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg26470/#msg26470
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The correct attitude is for you as an artist to start off subjectively as a fan of the pop culture product you yourself are producing. If even the producer is not a fan, how can the consumers be expected to become fans? Yet this is the attitude most absent in "New China". Instead, prod
And Sailor Moon vs Crystal
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/counterculture-era/the-archetype-of-the-warrior-how-films-help-empower-us-all/msg24643/#msg24643
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I am firmly in the camp that appreciates the original series precisely for not sticking to the comic book source material (unlike Crystal).

And from the example of legendary figures of many cultures, their cultures were deficient in quality, so it needed a hero with empathy to make it strong. That’s when they come in. But they weren’t toying with fame, honor, etc. Because the cultures didn’t provide that. They were toiling with growing their culture to what it later became. Do you think Motown provided the Jacksons with a good life and that they were in for the trends? No. The Jacksons (especially Michael) made the best of what they got and used their inner strengths. They went through the struggle so they deserve the success
Of course this is more about already existing cultures. This is not to say one should create a culture to grow it.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2025, 02:26:33 pm by HikariDude »

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« Reply #467 on: April 13, 2025, 05:57:10 pm »
"Are you sure it’s not because it’s what you grew up with?"

I also grew up with Western classical music and never liked it.

"But don’t be surprised if someone later than yourself with your current ranking thought the purpose wasn’t fulfilled and finds a later music culture better than Counterculture:"

You are a progressive (and hence Westerner), then. Your start off assuming anything from the past will eventually be surpassed by something in the future (and that this is a good thing). And so long as it doesn't happen you merely think it hasn't happened yet. I, on the other hand, am a regressive. I do not want it to happen and do not like those who try to make it happen.

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-false-left/progressive-yahwism/msg11366/#msg11366

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« Reply #468 on: April 14, 2025, 09:47:14 am »
“I also grew up with Western classical music and never liked it.”
Of course it already existed. It predates the Counterculture era. But the Counterculture was a relatively new thing (meaning around your time). That may have sounded a little progressive, but that was less about valuing the newer things than it was about determining if it was out of nostalgia. Are there also things in the Counterculture era that cannot surpass pre-colonial aesthetics?

“Your start off assuming anything from the past will eventually be surpassed by something in the future (and that this is a good thing). And so long as it doesn't happen you merely think it hasn't happened yet.”
But regardless, there is a small chance it would happen.
Of course every True Leftist here is rooting for you, and sure people need to know what is abundantly available before they think about creating entirely new content. But it would take more efficient natural methods to make creation and fashion history. Anyone can complain about the status quo, but at Hitler’s time, it was almost made happen.

But at the end, what’s more important than disliking existing Western music is preventing more music from existing. And that it’s almost ok to like any music. Hitler’s favorite music at the time was already Westernized, but he preferred it over creating new music. Most of the performed music at that time were not original (they were especially out of fan tribute).
So if one were to perform or create art or other content, it should be out of fan tribute. That almost happened during post-Counterculture era:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg11070/#msg11070
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/media-decolonization/msg11099/#msg11099
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« Reply #469 on: April 14, 2025, 03:47:35 pm »
"Are there also things in the Counterculture era that cannot surpass pre-colonial aesthetics?"

I definitely prefer pre-colonial architecture.

"there is a small chance it would happen."

Of course, and that's the problem. Many people are tempted into waiting for it to happen, to the extent of being willing to bring an indefinite number of new generations into existence.

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« Reply #470 on: April 14, 2025, 05:40:55 pm »
“I definitely prefer pre-colonial architecture.”
Would you have not preferred any infrastructure created during Counterculture? Were Counterculture architects fans of pre-colonial architecture? Have they admitted their designs would have never surpassed pre-colonial architecture?

I’m thinking of a difference between Counterculture era music and today’s music. In Counterculture era, there were fewer big companies that decided on much fewer designated demos to be released. Today’s era doesn’t have that sort of top-down approach as anyone with access to the internet can strive for fame and become successful (which is why not only are not many musicians on a legendary level, but many of 21st century’s top music sounds as degenerate as National Socialists’ pick of degenerate musicians despite being of completely different genres: https://trueleft.createaforum.com/colonial-era/hitler-the-face-of-anti-tribalism/msg14811/#msg14811 ). 

“Many people are tempted into waiting for it to happen, to the extent of being willing to bring an indefinite number of new generations into existence.”
They are slaves to society’s status quo. Even when they watch stuff like Sailor Moon, they take its morals as fiction as opposed to consideration.

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« Reply #471 on: April 14, 2025, 06:17:57 pm »
"Would you have not preferred any infrastructure created during Counterculture?"

The main problem is that infrastructure of that period still had to accept modern norms in order to fit in with surrounding infrastructure.

"Were Counterculture architects fans of pre-colonial architecture?"

Some might have been. Certainly there was awareness that Western architecture was wrong for most parts of the world. We can continue this discussion here:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/decolonized-housing-(america-edition)/

"Have they admitted their designs would have never surpassed pre-colonial architecture?"

I do not recall encountering such admissions.

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« Reply #472 on: April 16, 2025, 03:02:46 am »
Dedicating this one to all the lurkers and leeches out there, this train left the station a long time ago and most of you were never on it!

Sa-Roc : "G Train" (official Video)

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« Reply #473 on: April 19, 2025, 12:16:39 am »
Quantic - Time Is The Enemy

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In The Waiting Line

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The Coup - Dig It

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Fat Cats, Bigga Fish

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Witchdoctor - Holiday