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Questions & Debates / Re: National Socialists were socialists
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 05, 2026, 12:49:23 am »
"When an enterprise fails to sell its goods because it loses out in competition with other businesses for the same pool of consumers in a given area, workers also bear the risk of loss, as they are forced to accept wage reductions"

You are hallucinating. A standard employee contract guarantees a fixed minimum pay per month. This is not open to negotiation until the contract expires and the employee demands renewal of contract. (Even if they are fired, they are contractually guaranteed severance.) This means that, for the duration of each contract, the employee is working risk-free. And even if during renewal the employee agrees to takes a pay cut (and they can disagree and refuse to renew if they prefer), they are merely earning less; they never have to risk losing money outright. This is in fact the main appeal of being an employee, which is why so many people prefer employment to partnership etc..
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Questions & Debates / Re: National Socialists were socialists
« Last post by antihellenistic on January 04, 2026, 11:51:12 pm »
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"hoarding of surplus value extracted from the labor of workers constitute a fundamental injustice"

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-national-socialists-were-socialists-3223/msg30553/#msg30553

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A business owner is someone who has to risk making a loss if the product/service does not sell. An employee is someone who gets paid the exact same wages even if the product/service does not sell. Why should someone who takes greater risk, more precisely someone who takes on risk so that others (the employees) can avoid risk, not have a chance for greater reward?

Business owners have appropriated surplus value from the labor performed by workers—labor in which they themselves are not directly involved. They merely act as supervisors, nothing more. They therefore have no legitimate claim to profit from every product or service sold. Moreover, the risks of loss and profit arising from sales are borne by everyone, not solely by business owners. When an enterprise fails to sell its goods because it loses out in competition with other businesses for the same pool of consumers in a given area, workers also bear the risk of loss, as they are forced to accept wage reductions in order to preserve the efficiency of the business’s capital.

The proceeds generated from the sale of goods and services rightfully belong to the collective, not to the business owner alone. A business owner whose role often amounts merely to monitoring and supervising operations deserves, at most, a wage—because such activity constitutes nothing more than labor comparable to that performed by other workers within the functioning enterprise. Indeed, such an owner does not even merit a wage, given that they frequently engage in leisure and recreational activities while their workers labor under conditions of intensified exploitation, compelled to maintain efficiency in order to preserve market share and the consumer base that has chosen products created through the workers’ own labor.

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Issues / Re: Military decolonization
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2026, 05:25:29 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGuL_ZcAyl8

Woke comments:

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it's known to all that Japan 🇯🇵 is an American colony . Since the end of world war ll and the presence of American troops on Japanese soil .

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The Plazza Accords ruined Japan's economy with consequences felt for decades, just because US industry felt threatened by Japanese competition. 30 years of stagnation were the price paid for being a vassal state of Aemrica. In some way, the US destroyed Japan twice, in the 40's and the 80's, and will not hesitate to sacrifice it a third time.
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True Left vs Right / Re: If Western civilization does not die soon.....
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2026, 04:45:02 pm »
A false dichotomy that we would never have been discussing in absence of Western civilization:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ-aHlTlWgQ
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News / Re: Venezuela
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2026, 04:36:06 pm »
"Why is it so hard for them to be authentic and real people?"

I would say they are only now being authentic and real people. "Whites" have to lynch "non-whites" in order to be authentic and real. This is why "whites" have never been comfortable ever since they had to pretend that protection under law apply to "non-whites". They are now merely giving up a pretence that they never actually believed in.
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Questions & Debates / Re: National Socialists were socialists
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2026, 04:17:19 pm »
"hoarding of surplus value extracted from the labor of workers constitute a fundamental injustice"

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-national-socialists-were-socialists-3223/msg30553/#msg30553

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A business owner is someone who has to risk making a loss if the product/service does not sell. An employee is someone who gets paid the exact same wages even if the product/service does not sell. Why should someone who takes greater risk, more precisely someone who takes on risk so that others (the employees) can avoid risk, not have a chance for greater reward?
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Questions & Debates / Re: National Socialists were socialists
« Last post by antihellenistic on January 04, 2026, 01:17:39 pm »
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"A form of stratification based on the degree to which individuals understand empathy and the allocation of the means and results of production—ranging from those who understand it most to those who are least willing to do so—is the appropriate form of social stratification."


This form of social stratification is why you are only allowed to post in Questions & Debates whereas individuals such as Zea_mays who understand empathy:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-national-socialists-were-socialists-3223/msg30553/?topicseen#msg30553

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business-owners (which actually includes non-evil people

are allowed to post in all forums.

A good business owner is one who unequivocally recognizes that the accumulation of capital and the hoarding of surplus value extracted from the labor of workers constitute a fundamental injustice. A good business owner is one who consciously rejects the legitimacy of private ownership over the means of production and willingly accepts their expropriation by the state, in the interest of constructing a planned society liberated from exploitation. Only through such expropriation can society be freed from the physical and psychological oppression imposed upon labor by the arbitrary and coercive power of business owners.

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“... Thus, it was the conclusions of Gottfried Feder that caused me to delve into the fundamentals of this field with which I had previously not been very familiar. I began to study again, and now for the first time really achieved an understanding of the content of ... Karl Marx’s life effort. Only now did his Kapital become really intelligible to me ...” —Adolf Hitler, 1925

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1. MEIN KAMPF BY ADOLF HITLER Translated by Ralph Manheim Page 130

https://archive.org/details/meinkampf0000adol_h1g9/page/130/mode/2up


2. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler - (Ralph Manheim Translation) Page 215

https://archive.org/details/mein-kampf-by-adolf-hitler-ralph-manheim-translation/page/214/mode/2up

3. MEIN KAMPF — ADOLF HITLER VOLUME ONE A NEW ENGLISH TRANSLATION BY THOMAS DALTON Page 229

https://archive.org/stream/mein-kampf-dalton-translation/Mein%20Kampf%2C%20Dalton%20Translation%20Vol%201_djvu.txt

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I want everyone to keep what he has earned subject to the principle that the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State. . . . The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners

[W]e will do what we like with the bourgeoisie. . . We give the orders; they do what they are told. Any resistance will be broken ruthlessly. . . You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with Marxism - Adolf Hitler

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Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-discovered 1931 Interviews Page 32 - 33 and 36

https://books.google.co.id/books?redir_esc=y&hl=id&id=EyxoAAAAMAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=retain+control

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The small businessmen, who had previously been one of the mainstays of the party and who had expected great things from Chancellor Hitler, soon found themselves, many of them, exterminated and forced back into the ranks of wage earners. A law passed in October 1937 dissolved all companies with capital under $40,000 and prohibited the establishment of new companies with capital under $200,000. This quickly eliminated one-fifth of all small business enterprises. On the other hand, the large cartels, which had even been favored by the Republic, were further strengthened by the Nazis. In fact, by a law of July 15, 1933, they were made compulsory. The Ministry of Economics was empowered to organize new compulsory cartels or to order companies to join existing ones.

The system of various business and trade associations organized during the Republic was maintained by the Nazis, although by the basic law of February 27, 1934, they were reorganized on the principle of efficient leadership and placed under state control.

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Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich: A History of Nazi Germany by William L. Shirer Page 262

https://archive.org/details/B-001-014-606/page/262/mode/2up?q=dissolved+all+corporations

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After the seizure of power this definition of the role of the entrepreneur was legally fixed in the 'Law for the Structuring of National Labour' (20 January 1934). 169 According to this law, the 'company leader' was the 'trustee of the state' and therefore obligated to the common good of the national community. This interpretation of the role of the owner or manager in the NS state was more important than Hitler's formal guarantee of private ownership. Because, as the reality of the Third Reich - particularly in the war years - showed, this definition of the role of the owner or manager had far-reaching consequences. The Volksgerichtshof [People's Court, the highest penal court in the Third Reich-H.B.], for example, handed down extremely harsh sentences against owners or managers who ignored the directives of the state plan

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We also see the socialist character of the Reichsbahn in something else. It is a warning about the exclusive claims of the doctrine of private capitalism. It is the living proof that it is very possible to run a nationalized enterprise without private capital tendencies and without private capital management - Adolf Hitler

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Hitler : the Policies of Seduction by Rainer Zitelmann Page 246 and 251

https://archive.org/details/hitlerpoliciesof0000zite/page/250/mode/2up?q=run+a+nationalized+enterprise+without+private+capital

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In another table talk on 2 November 1941, during which he talked about the ‘time of struggle’ and his ‘contempt’ for the bourgeoisie which he had developed at this time, he said, ‘The Communists and us, those were the only ones who also had women who did not flinch when the shooting started. Those are decent people with whom alone you can maintain a state.’

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Monologe im Führerhauptquartier 1941–1944 by Heinrich Heim Page 37, 38, and 99

https://archive.org/details/monologe-im-fuehrerhauptquartier

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The economy was comprehensively organized by industries und by territory. Geographical districts, Gaue, were defined, as were the chief economic sectors such as industry, handicrafts, commerce, banking, insurance, and power. These great sectors, or Reich Groups, were subdivided into numerous smaller groups, each under the command of a leader named or approved by the government. As a rule the leader was an executive in the respective industry who within his jurisdiction had considerable powers and responsibilities. All in all, this apparatus was very cumbersome; everyone in economic life without exception was a member and was subjected by it to all the regulations, instructions, and orders which the government was pleased to decree. From this system there was no escape.

Even before the war, managers were often told what to produce and by what methods, how much coal and raw materials would be available to them, what materials to use and not to use, what prices to pay and to charge, from whom to accept orders for delivery, to and through whom to sell, and in which order to fill requests. Thus, at some times government orders had priority, at other times export orders, and among government orders some- times those of the army, at other times those of government plants were first in line.

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The German Economy: 1870 to the Present by Gustav Stolper Page 140

https://archive.org/details/germaneconomy1870000stol/page/140/mode/2up

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“’What is the difference between communism, socialism and national socialism?’ the riddle asks. ‘If you have six cows,’ the answer says, ‘the communists take all six, the socialists take three and leave you three, but the Nazis make you keep all six--and they take the milk.’”

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People under Hitler by Deuel, Wallace Rankin, 1905-1974 Page 124

https://archive.org/details/peopleunderhitle0000deue/page/124/mode/2up?q=the+socialists+take+three+and+leave+you+three%2C+but+the+Nazis+make+you+keep+all+six

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He [Hitler] voiced his radical regrets: that he had not exterminated the German nobility, that he had come to power 'too easily', not unleashing a classical revolution 'to destroy elites and classes',' that he had supported Franco in Spain instead of the Communists, that he had failed to put himself at the head of a movement for the liberation of the colonial peoples, 'especially the Arabs', that he had not freed the working class from 'the bourgeoisie of fossils'. Above all he regretted his leniency, his lack of the admirable ruthlessness Stalin had so consistendy showed and which invited one's 'unreserved respect' for him. One of his last recorded remarks, on 27 April 1945, three days before he killed himself (whether by bullet or poison is disputed)

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Modern Times: The World from the Twenties to the Nineties by Paul Johnson Page 413

https://archive.org/details/moderntimesworld00john_1/mode/2up?q=to+destroy+elites+and+classes
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News / Re: Venezuela
« Last post by PeacefulPeasant on January 04, 2026, 04:25:01 am »
I fucken absolutely hate this world! I just want to be a peaceful peasant yo, wtf!? I hate the fact that I'm forced to pay attention to this garbage! This **** is literally killing me!

The narrator here nails it, especially when it comes to "white" colonialism and the global south!

Maduro captured, what's next? My take on the current situation
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In a stunning and controversial operation on January 3, 2026, U.S. military forces launched large-scale strikes across Venezuela, targeting key locations in Caracas and seizing control of the presidential compound. According to official reports, Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife Cilia Flores were captured by U.S. special forces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hW2DXGodpQ

Why can't western politicians and their "elites" stop being the silly little sissy-boy politicians they are? Why do I, the peaceful peasant, constantly have to be bombarded by these silly little **** terrible decisions and there nonsensical arguments? WTF is wrong with these people? Why is it so hard for them to be authentic and real people? Whatever is eventually determined to be the personality type of the average western politician, I will be the first to declare that this personality type is an absolute detriment to all of humanity and should probably be banned if peace is truly important to all the humans that truly struggle and toil!


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Questions & Debates / Re: National Socialists were socialists
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2026, 04:23:17 am »
"A form of stratification based on the degree to which individuals understand empathy and the allocation of the means and results of production—ranging from those who understand it most to those who are least willing to do so—is the appropriate form of social stratification."

This form of social stratification is why you are only allowed to post in Questions & Debates whereas individuals such as Zea_mays who understand empathy:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/re-national-socialists-were-socialists-3223/msg30553/?topicseen#msg30553

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business-owners (which actually includes non-evil people

are allowed to post in all forums.
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News / Re: Venezuela
« Last post by 90sRetroFan on January 04, 2026, 02:30:14 am »
No one should be surprised:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihjvevflY0A

If Trump had been assassinated when I said he should have been (2017), this would not be happening right now. But of course no one listened.

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2026 is already worse than 2025,AND IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN A WEEK!!

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Putin and Netanyahu have taught Trump well.

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There is no international law

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Every Republican I talked to today had the same reaction when I told them this is an illegal war. They all said "good. I hope they kill them all. And then kill everyone in Iran and Gaza too!".

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I wish Iran, China or some other country would arrest Trump. Give us some sort of peace.
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