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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #315 on: May 09, 2024, 08:56:13 pm »
"environmentally induced mutations that cause the increased robustness and therefore an increase in Eurocentrism. For example, I would say non veg diasporoids consume more meat, which likely increases robustness in physiognomy, but which also increases Eurocentrism."

Is this necessarily a mutation? Could it not be a straightforward dietary consequence?

And again, why insist on making it about diaspora vs non-diaspora? What about non-veg non-diaspora Indians vs veg diaspora Indians? If meat is what's causing it, then it's causing it whether it is consumed outside India or within India!

And you still haven't posted any pictures.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #316 on: May 09, 2024, 09:02:42 pm »
"Is this necessarily a mutation? Could it not be a straightforward dietary consequence?"
Fair enough. I was using "mutation" as I meant the trait wasn't heritably present but acquired as a consquence of environment (diet falling under environment), but I suppose the term is not correct.

"And again, why insist on making it about diaspora vs non-diaspora? What about non-veg non-diaspora Indians vs veg diaspora Indians? If meat is what's causing it, then it's causing it whether it is consumed outside India or within India!"
I meant meat eating diasporoids consume more meat per than their meat eating non diasporoid counterparts. This is because meat is a staple of Western public school lunches, whereas in Indian schools people are banned from bringing meat even if it is their own lunch.


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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #317 on: May 09, 2024, 09:11:12 pm »
"I meant meat eating diasporoids consume more meat per than their meat eating non diasporoid counterparts."

You are doing it again! What if we compare between non-diaspora Indians who eat more meat and diaspora Indians who eat less meat?

And you still haven't posted any pictures.

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« Reply #318 on: May 09, 2024, 09:18:15 pm »
"You are doing it again! What if we compare between non-diaspora Indians who eat more meat and diaspora Indians who eat less meat?"
The former would be more robust no doubt. But since diaspora Indians who eat meat outnumber veg diaspora Indians, we see an overall average increase in robustness and Eurocentrism compared to mainlanders, due to meat eating diaspora Indians consuming more meat than even meat eating mainlanders.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #319 on: May 09, 2024, 09:26:39 pm »
"diaspora Indians who eat meat outnumber veg diaspora Indians"

In that case what we are looking at is meat-eaters being more likely to emigrate from India in the first place.

"due to meat eating diaspora Indians consuming more meat than even meat eating mainlanders"

This is the red herring, which can be proven by comparing only between diaspora Indians and non-diaspora Indians who eat similar quantities of meat.

And you still haven't posted any pictures.

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« Reply #320 on: May 09, 2024, 10:22:47 pm »
"In that case what we are looking at is meat-eaters being more likely to emigrate from India in the first place."
Not necessarily. Only 30 percent of Indians are veg, which means even if emigration of meat eaters and vegetarians is proportional, meat eaters vastly outnumber vegetarians. (There's also the possibility that among those 30 percent, an even lesser number are heritably veg, meaning they are be veg due to cultural restrictions (which don't exist in the West), and however sincere they may be, upon emigrating and reproducing their offspring end up becoming meat eaters as the cultural restrictions no longer exist).

"Pictures"
Meat eating Diasporoid:
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D4E03AQHLxybOgjSFPw/profile-displayphoto-shrink_200_200/0/1713309422419?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=SgNfuAlYr5wm-m_mZDe7D66TYcvDA6tLwZRmRbKHj3s

Meat eating non diasporoid:
https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4D03AQGeOINtFlrdFg/profile-displayphoto-shrink_400_400/0/1613527239770?e=2147483647&v=beta&t=alHfbg2p9RxGrfE66pCisXTC-QlDLZwvjidQBt92UKA

Of course, we cannot conclusively say that meat eating is what caused the increased robustness, as correlation is not necessarily causation, but I would say it likely is.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2024, 11:03:49 pm by rp »

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #321 on: May 10, 2024, 12:16:49 pm »
This is why the term "mutation" may be applicable after all:
Scientists are just beginning to decode the genetic messages in your food – and how that may affect your health.
The Conversation · theconversation.com
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Even if the above weren't true, meat consumption increases bone robustness (phenotype) which is correlated with Eurocentrism (personality trait). Of course, we should not judge people based on phenotype alone, but it can be used as a good predictor of personality traits. So unless the personality traits are reversible (which is unlikely after full cognitive development, if we were to go even further and theorize that meat consumption causes certain areas of the brain to develop differently), it makes little difference.
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #323 on: May 10, 2024, 10:10:20 pm »
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all abes are our enemies.

So now the question is how to remove the Islamophobia from anti-Judaic Indians.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #324 on: May 11, 2024, 11:36:35 am »
Indians in the U.S from my experience are much more open to interfaith discussions. For example, I like how Vivek tries to find common ground with Christianity using monotheism. This is a completely coherent position, as Hindu philosophies such as advaita say that God has many forms but ultimately there is only one true reality (Brahman).

The problem with Judeo Christianity, which Vivek is trying to find common ground with, is that it believes it is the only true religion. Vivek addressed this and talked about how he believes Christianity is one of the ways to attain salvation as opposed to being the only way, but this is fundamentally at odds with Judeo Christianity. This is also related to Judeo Christianity being pro Western, as it views all non Judeo Christians (mostly "non Whites") as "idolatrous heathens", and views "non Whites" as inferior unless they adopt Judeo Christianity (which involves implicitly recognizing the superiority of Western Civilization, which is why I view it as a "based" religion).

There is also the problem of creator worship (Yahweh). While Hinduism has a creator god (Brahma) he is given much less importance (and is in fact even portrayed as arrogant) compared to Brahman. This is where Gnostic Christianity comes in, but in order to promote Gnostic Christianity we must first acknowledge that Western "Christians" are simply not Christian.

Muslims in America don't exhibit this sort of exclusionist attitude, so it would be better off trying to build common ground with them. In fact, I think there is a good opportunity to build an alliance between Hindu conservatives and Muslim conservatives. For example, I saw the news of Muslim parents protesting "LGBT" books in schools. Of course, while parents shouldn't decide what their children are exposed to, I think this would be a good opportunity to raise awareness of the tyranny of the uniquely Western phenomenon that is compulsory education (which Vivek talked about, although he also framed it as "parents determine their children's education"). There is also the fact that Hindu conservatives and Muslim conservatives agree on things like abortion.

The only flaws with some Muslims is that they are exclusivist, as well as anthropocentric. For example, I have seen Muslims ridicule Hindu reverence towards cows, as well as call all Hindus "idolatrous Kafirs". There is also the fact that Muslim advocacy organizations in the United States are somewhat anti Hindu.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #325 on: May 11, 2024, 04:18:42 pm »
"an alliance between Hindu conservatives and Muslim conservatives. For example, I saw the news of Muslim parents protesting "LGBT" books in schools."

This is the very alliance which we should not promote. We should consider both homophobic Hindus and homophobic Muslims as products of Western colonialism:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/legal-decolonization/msg17454/#msg17454

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/ancient-world/inspired-by-muhammad/msg13353/#msg13353
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #326 on: May 11, 2024, 05:16:09 pm »
I did not mean we should necessarily ally on that issue, just that it could be a good segue into raising awareness of compulsory education.

I definitely agree that homophobia should not be a rallying point.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #327 on: May 11, 2024, 05:32:39 pm »
"a good segue into raising awareness of compulsory education."

Think about how bad it makes us look: when the Western colonialists imposed compulsory schooling on us, we thanked them on our knees for sharing knowledge aout Western science, Western sports, Western classical music, etc., and then only when there are LGBT books we start protesting?! Where were the protests against organic chemistry books FFS?! Or calculus books FFS?!
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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #328 on: May 11, 2024, 05:35:57 pm »
Good point. Perhaps Muslims and Hindu conservatives can ally against compulsory schooling without bringing up the LGBT issue.

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Re: Indian attitudes
« Reply #329 on: May 12, 2024, 09:19:46 am »
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