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« Reply #120 on: June 09, 2023, 06:35:01 pm »
People who want to spend money on it can do so. People who do not want to spend money on it do not have to. I do not see a problem here.

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« Reply #121 on: June 09, 2023, 06:55:40 pm »
OK, here's another question: you said characters with high sexual dimorphism portrayed sexually aren't necessarily creating high sexual dimorphism:

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So long as both characters who are low in sexual dimorphism and characters who are high in sexual dimorphism are portrayed in this way, it is not particularly promoting high sexual dimorphism.

What did you mean by that? Where does the line at gravure in anime end and the line at straight up pörn begin? Are we OK with child gravure?
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« Reply #122 on: June 09, 2023, 07:19:21 pm »
"What did you mean by that?"

If a cafe tries to sell both hot drinks and cold drinks, it would be inaccurate to accuse it of promoting hot drinks.

Similarly, if a show has positive portrayals of both high-sexual-dimorphism characters and low-sexual-dimorphism characters, it would be inaccurate to accuse it of promoting high sexual dimorphism.

"Where does the line at gravure in anime end and the line at straight up pörn begin?"

Gravure refers to filmed/photographed content, not animated/drawn content. If you want to discuss where the line is drawn in the former, that is one of the things we can discuss in the upcoming gravure topic.

"Are we OK with child gravure?"

Sure, so long as it is done voluntarily. What the state needs to watch out for is parents either forcing children to do it despite the children not wanting to, or prohibiting children from doing it even though the children want to. This principle applies to all activities.

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« Reply #123 on: June 09, 2023, 07:43:26 pm »
OK, where do we draw the line with drawn/animated content? I would imagine things like hentai, lolicon, shotacon, ecchi, etc. are off-limits, right?
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« Reply #124 on: June 09, 2023, 07:46:24 pm »
"I would imagine things like hentai, lolicon, shotacon, ecchi, etc. are off-limits, right?"

If by off-limits you mean the state should prohibit them, no. If by off-limits you mean I personally dislike them, I would have to judge on a case-by-case basis.

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« Reply #125 on: June 09, 2023, 07:47:38 pm »
That's fair. I assume that also includes such material involving minors?
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« Reply #126 on: June 09, 2023, 08:17:52 pm »
It doesn't make much sense to apply real-life legal concepts (such as "minor") to fictional characters who:

1) generally have no legal personhood standing in this world;
2) may live in a fictional society with a different (often unspecified) legal system;
3) may not age linearly in-story with their out-of-story chronological franchise existence in this world.

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« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2023, 08:20:25 pm »
This sounds like the 'it's just a drawing' argument otakus use to justify their pedophilia. Can you elaborate?
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« Reply #128 on: June 09, 2023, 08:32:06 pm »
Rephrase your earlier question such that the term "minors" is replaced with a more meaningful term.

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« Reply #129 on: June 09, 2023, 08:33:39 pm »
OK, replace 'minor' with 'child' or 'youth'.
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« Reply #130 on: June 09, 2023, 08:37:45 pm »
The state should not prohibit it. I would judge on a case-by-case basis what I think of it.

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« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2023, 08:38:42 pm »
Again, that's fair. Thanks for your clarity.
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« Reply #132 on: June 09, 2023, 10:42:57 pm »
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I'm asking these questions because I just finished watching some videos about 'sexualization of minors' and 'excessive fanservice in anime' and I wanted an Aryan perspective, as I've never dealt with this subject before. And then there's ecchi, which involves 'softcore' pörn... Many of the video essayists report this is because of the 'hikikomori' crowd which is infamous for it's attraction to child pörn. They also say there are a lot of aggressively sexual characters in anime for marketing reasons. What do you think?

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Why do you also use ASCII code to skirt the automatic forum censor, just like "Ascesis" did? One example of many:

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How about you start by reading our website you stupid fúck?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/questions-debates/t1853/?message=19758

You did this in an email to myself also.

Furthermore, just because you're the only person who posts a profile picture of yourself supposedly on this forum and lead in by sharing with all of us that you have "autism", doesn't mean you're not some "white" moronic Trump supporter sitting in a basement in Florida somewhere, does it? Regardless of whether or not you are actually autistic, pretending to be an ally to a movement while simultaneously being deceptive to it's members ultimately just makes you an enemy of said movement.
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« Reply #133 on: June 10, 2023, 10:20:38 am »
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Why do you also use ASCII code to skirt the automatic forum censor, just like "Ascesis" did?

Really, Reuters? Really?

I don't approve of censorship. AS chose to create a new forum on a platform which censors profanity, so I have to circumvent the filter.

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Furthermore, just because you're the only person who posts a profile picture of yourself supposedly on this forum and lead in by sharing with all of us that you have "autism", doesn't mean you're not some "white" moronic Trump supporter sitting in a basement in Florida somewhere, does it?

You're an idiot, Reuters. That is my real face. That is my real name. This is the autistic registry card I had when I was a kid (apparently the person who issued it to me was Jewish. Fancy that.):
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Regardless of whether or not you are actually autistic, pretending to be an ally to a movement while simultaneously being deceptive to it's members ultimately just makes you an enemy of said movement.

Point out the moments where I have 'pretended' to be an ally of/deceived the movement (or have tried to).
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Re: Autism
« Reply #134 on: June 10, 2023, 03:51:35 pm »
Why do you call him Reuters?