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Gentilism
« on: September 09, 2020, 01:58:46 am »
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www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-7988029/Remains-Neolithic-immigrants-brutally-executed-territory-7-000-years-ago.html

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The remains of Neolithic immigrants uncovered in modern-day Spain reveal they were brutally executed in a 'xenophobic murderous frenzy' over 7,000 years ago.

An international team of archaeologists excavated a cave in the modern day Spanish Pyrenees and found the mutilated remains of five adults and four children.

The children were aged between three and seven and all nine of the people in the cage had not just been shot with arrows but beaten, even after they had died.
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The gruesome discovery was found in the Els Trocs cave which is in the mountain landscape of the Huesca region.

It required painstaking excavation to avoid damaging the fragile ancient remains in what would have been both hunting and farming land.

The remains have been dated to about 5,300 BC, which is when hunter-gatherers were being replaced by farmers.
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Genetic data from the victims found they were in the first wave of immigrants from the Middle East, who spread throughout Europe about 10,000 years ago.

The discovery in the cave documents an early escalation of violence between people of 'conceivably different origins and worldviews',
according to the paper.
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The researchers studied the genome of the victims of the attack and found that two of them were father and son - a male of about 30 and a boy of about six.

The other three children had different mothers and the genomes haven't been studied to the same detail.

It is likely they were all part of the same cultural group though, possibility farming immigrants coming in to an area dominated by hunter gatherers.

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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2020, 02:07:58 am »
Joetnar evolution confirmed:

https://phys.org/news/2020-09-ancient-hunters-frozen-northern-europe.html

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Ancient hunters stayed in the coldest part of Northern Europe rather than migrating to escape freezing winter conditions, archeologists have found.

Evidence from Arctic fox bones show communities living around 27,500 years ago were killing small prey in the inhospitable North European Plains during the winter months of the last Ice Age.

Researchers have found no evidence of dwellings, suggesting people only stayed for a short time or lived in tents in the area excavated, Kraków Spadzista in Southern Poland—one of the largest Upper Paleolithic sites in Central Europe. Until now it wasn't clear if people retreated elsewhere each winter to avoid the intense cold.

Dr. Alexander Pryor, from the University of Exeter, who led the study, said: "Our research shows the cold harsh winter climates of the last ice age were no barrier to human activity in the area. Hunters made very specific choices about where and when to kill their prey."

Inhabitants of Kraków Spadzista around 27,500 years ago killed and butchered large numbers of wooly mammoths and arctic foxes at the site. For the first time, the research team were able to reconstruct details of how the foxes were moving around in the landscape before they died, and also what time of the year they died, through analyzing the internal chemistry and growth structures of their tooth enamel and roots.

The analysis of teeth from four of the 29 hunted foxes show each was born and grew up in a different location, and had migrated either tens or hundreds of kilometers to the region before being killed by hunters—by snares, deadfalls or other trapping methods—for both their thick warm furs as well as meat and fat for food. The carcasses were brought back to the site to be skinned and butchered.
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Dr. Pryor said: "Arctic fox provided both food and hides to Paleolithic hunters, with their fur coats reaching full length around the beginning of December; this winter fur usually begins shedding by early spring. They also lay down substantial stores of body fats seasonally that are greatest from late autumn throughout the winter season and do not start to become seriously depleted until early spring. Hunters most likely targeted the foxes in the late winter period—before the onset of fur shedding and loss of critical fat supplies. The high numbers of fox remains found at the site suggests what was happening was a deliberate, organized procurement strategy rather than just simple incidental hunting."

The analysis of teeth suggests hunters engaged in large-scale winter hunting of solitary Arctic foxes that were ranging widely across the landscape. The site was used as a base camp for ranging visits to maintain trapping lines and for processing hides.

Krakow Spadzista was one of the most northerly sites in central Europe during the Late Gravettian when much of the northern plains region had already been abandoned. Mean annual temperature was between −1.0 °C and +4.3 °C.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/
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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2020, 04:33:33 am »

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when hunter-gatherers were being replaced by farmers.
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Conquering settlers replacing the innocent native population. hmmm, sounds familiar, where have I heard of that before? Oh right, sounds exactly like the situation we have in Occupied Palestine between the Settler Jews and the Native Palestinians! Also the situation in North America.

Sounds like this "attack" was in fact justified retaliation by the natives.

Seems that the identity of the attackers actually was never determined though:
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The researchers suggest that the attackers could have been local hunter-gatherers or another group of migrant farmers.

If they were migrants then the attack may have been sparked by a land dispute over farming space.

This very well could have been a family feud between two settler families.

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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2020, 08:35:55 pm »
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Conquering settlers replacing the innocent native population. hmmm, sounds familiar, where have I heard of that before? Oh right, sounds exactly like the situation we have in Occupied Palestine between the Settler Jews and the Native Palestinians! Also the situation in North America.

Firstly, hunter-gatherers do not create nation-states as they are tribal and live in tribes....

There is a difference between colonialism and imperialism. Westerners often confuse the two. What the Jews are doing to Palestine is colonialism, and western colonialism at that. What Europeans did to the Native Americans was also western colonialism.

Colonialism: "the policy or practice of acquiring full or partial political control over another country, occupying it with settlers, and exploiting it economically."
Imperialism: "a policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force."

Unless the empire in question is tyrannical in nature the conquered territory simply becomes part of the conquering empire. Only in colonialism are settlers used to drive out the native population and their culture.

Aryans would have simply helped teach the local hunter-gatherers how to become farmers themselves, kind of like how the Romans taught the English how to build roads....

Hitler and Aryanists have never denied that Ancient Aryans were the creators of the nation-state and were conquerors.


My Celtic ancestors also fought against tribalists apparently:
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Medieval Austria is the noble birthplace of the surname Reuter. Austria, which was originally home to a Celtic people, was conquered by the Roman Empire in about 15 BC. Following the fall of Rome, Austria was repeatedly invaded by barbarian tribes, such as the Vandals, Visigoths, and Huns, who swept in from the east.
https://www.houseofnames.com/reuter-family-crest

Fighting tribalists must be in my blood considering where I ended up ideologically aye? Must be some truth to the whole "blood memory" thing I'm thinking, no?  ;)


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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2020, 01:18:08 pm »
Because we need feel-good stories:

https://us.yahoo.com/news/9-old-hunting-father-accidentally-162440221.html

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9-year-old hunting with father accidentally shoots, kills himself
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Gunnar Holte was pheasant hunting with his father around Branched Oak Lake in Lincoln on Sunday morning when the incident occurred, the Lancaster County Sheriff’s Office told KLKN.

That makes one fewer of these:



Of course, I must emphasize that merely waiting for our enemies to all shoot themselves is a losing strategy. Indeed, that we more frequently hear stories of them shooting themselves than of leftists shooting them is testimony to leftist apathy.
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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2020, 03:08:01 am »
LOL:

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/ice-age-figurines-0014617

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Ice Age Figurines and the Sanctity of Prehistoric Obesity
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linking the famous Ice Age Venus figurines with a widespread prehistoric desire for “female obesity.”





Mile-deep ice sheets advanced over what is today Northern Europe, causing winter temperatures to plunge to 10-15 degrees Celsius (50-59 degrees Fahrenheit). This killed off may hunters and forced other groups to retreat southwards to the central European forests. It was during this battle with the ice giants of the north that the Venus figurines were crafted and the researchers think this was no coincidence.
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The team of scientists measured the waist-to-hip and waist-to-shoulder ratios of each Venus figurine and discovered those that were found closest to the glaciers were “the most obese, compared with those located further away.”



Trying to explain this finding, the researchers say the Ice Age Venuses represented “an idealized body type for these difficult living conditions” and they suggest the carved figures conveyed ideals of body size for young women, and especially those who lived in proximity to glaciers, wrote Johnson.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/temperature-effects/

Continuing:

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Concluding that the obese figurines conveyed “ideals of body size, for young women,” the researchers claim being what is now deemed overweight was a “desired condition.” This was because obese females could carry a child through pregnancy in times of need more successfully than a woman suffering from malnutrition. Expanding on this, the researchers say many of the figurines are well-worn and they think this means they were heirlooms passed down from mother to daughter through generations.

The paper suggests young women becoming fertile, or pregnant, may have been given a Venus figurine in the hopes that they would achieve a similar body mass to increase the chances of a successful birth. With this magical aspect in mind, it is also suggested that the figurines may have been “imbued with a spiritual meaning - a fetish or magical charm of sorts that could protect a woman through pregnancy, birth and nursing .”

The desire for obesity in prehistoric societies was a key factor in the success of the tribe, and the need for fertile, healthy mothers, able to withstand the challenges of natural disasters and famines, was essential in these times of dramatic climatic upheaval. Johnson concluded that the Ice Age Venus figurines emerged as “an ideological tool to help improve fertility and survival of the mother and newborns,” promoting health and survival.

And False Leftists think fat-shaming is bad.....

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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2020, 07:32:58 pm »
Did Prehistoric Women Hunt? New Research Suggests So
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This idea goes against a hypothesis, dating back to the 1960s, known as the “Man-The-Hunter model.”
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The authors of the study, published in Science Advances, also reviewed evidence of other skeletons buried around the same period in the Americas, looking specifically at graves containing similar tools associated with big-game hunting. They found that of the 27 skeletons for which sex could be determined, 41% were likely female.
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The stereotypical view of hunter-gatherer groups is that they involve a gendered division of labour, with men hunting and women being more likely to stay nearer home with young children, or fish and forage, though even then there is some variation. For example, among Agta foragers in the Philippines women are primary hunters rather than assistants.

Some present day hunter-gatherers still use atlatls today, and some people also enjoy using atlatls in competitive throwing events, with women and children regularly taking part. Archaeologists studying data from these events suggest that atlatls may well have been equalisers – facilitating hunting by both women and men, possibly because they reduce the importance of body size and strength.
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In 2017, a famous burial of a Viking warrior from Sweden, discovered early in the 20th century and long assumed to be male, was discovered to be biologically female. This finding caused a significant and somewhat surprising amount of debate, and points to how our own modern ideas of gender roles can affect interpretations of more recent history too.
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The past, as some say, is a foreign country, and the more evidence we have, the more variable human behaviour looks to have been.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/did-prehistoric-women-hunt-new-research-suggests-so?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 03:09:13 am »
Some men say that they find it sexy when women hunt. I suspected some Gentile blood memory there.....

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2021, 09:23:18 pm »
https://us.yahoo.com/lifestyle/florida-fishermen-wrangle-300-pound-160900477.html

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Professional fisherman Joshua Jorgensen caught the monstrous fish in January after a three-year effort to find one, Canada’s Global News reported this week. Jorgensen and his boat captain, Jason Boyll, hooked the grouper near a coral reef in the Gulf of Mexico, at which point it took four grown men to lift the thing over the edge of the boat.



Again, look at the fishers' facial expressions. Sustainable evil is what Westerners get off on.

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Re: Western civilization = sustainable evil
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2021, 09:28:46 pm »
"Again, look at the fishers' facial expressions. Sustainable evil is what Westerners get off on."
How is it that all of them invariably have practically the same expression? I was looking at a photograph of a fisherman holding a fish in my local newspaper, and I **** you not he had the same ****-eating grin. I instinctively felt an impulse to punch him.

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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2021, 03:09:03 am »
https://www.sciencealert.com/real-paleo-diets-may-have-been-far-more-carnivorous-than-anything-we-d-eat-today

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Humans Were Actually Apex Predators For 2 Million Years, New Study Finds

Paleolithic cuisine was anything but lean and green, according to a recent study on the diets of our Pleistocene ancestors. For a good 2 million years, Homo sapiens and their ancestors ditched the salad and dined heavily on meat, putting them at the top of the food chain.

It's not quite the balanced diet of berries, grains, and steak we might picture when we think of 'paleo' food. But according to anthropologists from Israel's Tel Aviv University and the University of Minho in Portugal, modern hunter gatherers have given us the wrong impression of what we once ate.

"This comparison is futile, however, because 2 million years ago hunter-gatherer societies could hunt and consume elephants and other large animals – while today's hunter gatherers do not have access to such bounty," says Miki Ben‐Dor from Israel's Tel Aviv University.

A look through hundreds of previous studies on everything from modern human anatomy and physiology to measures of the isotopes inside ancient human bones and teeth suggests we were primarily apex predators until roughly 12,000 years ago.
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Dominated by the last great ice age, most of what is today Europe and North America was regularly buried under thick glaciers.

With so much water locked up as ice, ecosystems around the world were vastly different to what we see today. Large beasts roamed the landscape, including mammoths, mastodons, and giant sloths – in far greater numbers than we see today.

Of course it's no secret that Homo sapiens used their ingenuity and uncanny endurance to hunt down these massive meal-tickets. But the frequency with which they preyed on these herbivores hasn't been so easy to figure out.

Rather than rely solely on the fossil record, or make tenuous comparisons with pre-agricultural cultures, the researchers turned to the evidence embedded in our own bodies and compared it with our closest cousins.

"We decided to use other methods to reconstruct the diet of stone-age humans: to examine the memory preserved in our own bodies, our metabolism, genetics and physical build," says Ben‐Dor.

"Human behavior changes rapidly, but evolution is slow. The body remembers."

For example, compared with other primates, our bodies need more energy per unit of body mass. Especially when it comes to our energy-hungry brains. Our social time, such as when it comes to raising children, also limits the amount of time we can spend looking for food.

We have higher fat reserves, and can make use of them by rapidly turning fats into ketones when the need arises. Unlike other omnivores, where fat cells are few but large, ours are small and numerous, echoing those of a predator.

Our digestive systems are also suspiciously like that of animals higher up the food chain. Having unusually strong stomach acid is just the thing we might need for breaking down proteins and killing harmful bacteria you'd expect to find on a week-old mammoth chop.

Even our genomes point to a heavier reliance on a meat-rich diet than a sugar-rich one.

"For example, geneticists have concluded that areas of the human genome were closed off to enable a fat-rich diet, while in chimpanzees, areas of the genome were opened to enable a sugar-rich diet," says Ben‐Dor.

The team's argument is extensive, touching upon evidence in tool use, signs of trace elements and nitrogen isotopes in Paleolithic remains, and dental wear.

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2021, 10:50:38 pm »
Some of Europe’s Oldest-Known Modern Humans Are Distantly Related to Native Americans
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Genome sequencing shows some individuals share family ties with surprising populations, and all boast plenty of Neanderthal relatives
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Forty-five thousand years ago, some of the first modern humans to call Europe home lived in and around Bulgaria’s Bacho Kiro Cave. They created adornments, like beads and pendants of cave bear teeth. They fashioned stone and bone tools and colored them with red ochre. They hunted, butchered and feasted on local animals. Artifacts of this lifestyle were left scattered in the cave, but these ancient humans left little evidence of themselves. Just a single tooth and a few tiny bits of bone survived to the present day. Yet those fragments contained enough genetic material that scientists have now recreated some of the humans’ stories, revealing surprising information about both their ancestors and their descendants.

Two genetic sequencing studies published in different journals this week have sketched out the family trees of Europe’s earliest known modern humans, three 45,000-year-old individuals from Bacho Kiro Cave and one similarly aged skull from a Czechian hill site known as Zlatý kůň (Golden Horse). Only the Bacho Kiro individuals have living descendants and they’re found in surprising places—in East Asia and the Americas. The ancient humans from both ancient European sites do share one common ancestral strain—a healthy dose of Neanderthal DNA. Among the Bacho Kiro humans, evidence seems to show that when modern humans moved into Europe they commingled with Neanderthals longer, and later, than is commonly believed.
Entire article: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/secrets-europes-oldest-known-modern-humans-revealed-genome-sequencing-180977437/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2021, 11:46:13 pm »
Present-day Gentilism:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/two-thirds-british-men-say-24024142

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Two-thirds of British men say they would rather die 10 years early than give up meat, according to a new survey.

More than one in ten said giving up meat would make them feel less masculine, and a third said they believed humans were meant to eat meat - compared to one-quarter of the women surveyed.

The survey of 2,000 people, conducted by OnePoll for the charity campaign No Meat May, found both men and women viewed diets that excluded meat as more feminine.

More than one in 20 men surveyed also said they would rather go to jail than stop eating meat, rising to 11% for those aged 25-34.

However the survey found that many men and women would consider a plant-based diet in exchange for certain health benefits.

OK.....?

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A total 18% of men surveyed said they would stop eating meat if it improved their sexual performance

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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2021, 08:31:27 am »
 Getting back to this post:
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/human-evolution/re-sexual-dimorphism-preferences/msg5448/#msg5448
"Giants are usually less intelligent than their Turanian counterparts."

I wouldn't make such a claim. They may be less adept at social manipulation, but there is no reason why they would not have been selected for high technical intelligence, which is what IQ test score measures.

Do you believe most Westerners today possess more Giant or Turanian blood? My theory is that most Westerners have Giant blood, but those in leadership positions in rightist movments have Turanian blood.

In any case, I believe Giants are easier to defeat than Turanians because of the former's lack of cunningness . What do you think?
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Re: Gentilism
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2021, 10:28:05 pm »
"Do you believe most Westerners today possess more Giant or Turanian blood?"

It would probably vary by country, with the Turandom countries (Russia, V4, Israel (duh!), etc.) with more Turanian blood.

"those in leadership positions in rightist movments have Turanian blood."

I agree.

"I believe Giants are easier to defeat than Turanians because of the former's lack of cunningness . What do you think?"

There are two types of cunning: 1) outwitting the target; 2) exploiting the target's trust. Do you understand the difference between these two? Turanians can be expected to be superior at 2), but Gentiles (Giants or otherwise) can be expected to be superior at 1), since successful hunting depends on it.

(Bottom line: let's not ever underestimate any of our enemies; it's just a bad habit.)