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Population and Demographics
« on: November 21, 2020, 12:10:05 pm »
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The most intelligent and sensible thing to do would be to cap the human population and control human reproduction.


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Re: Population and Demographics
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2021, 11:50:44 am »
As birth rates fall, animals prowl in our abandoned 'ghost villages'
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Human populations are set to decline in countries from Asia to Europe – and an unusual form of rewilding is taking place
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/24/as-birth-rates-fall-animals-prowl-in-our-abandoned-ghost-villages?utm_source=pocket-newtab

This would be the perfect time to introduce state control over reproduction to ensure only quality humans are produced going forward. This way we can also make sure that what has been re-wilded is not re-humanized in the future.

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2021, 08:03:02 pm »
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The only way out of all these crises is a drastic reduction in the human population. Going forth to multiply and subdue the planet has lead us to this point of being on the verge of catastrophe. That is the real issue, until governments are willing to accept this fact then things will continue to get worse.

A good place to start would be to stop racists from reproducing ASAP!!!

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2021, 10:08:58 pm »
We must ensure "stage 5" is the less-fertile future:

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The original Demographic Transition model has just four stages, but additional stages have been proposed. Both more-fertile and less-fertile futures have been claimed as a Stage Five.

Some countries have sub-replacement fertility (that is, below 2.1–2.2 children per woman). Replacement fertility is generally slightly higher than 2 (the level which replaces the two parents) both because boys are born more often than girls (about 1.05–1.1 to 1) and to compensate for deaths prior to full reproduction. Many European and East Asian countries now have higher death rates than birth rates. Population aging and population decline may eventually occur, assuming that the fertility rate does not change and sustained mass immigration does not occur.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition#Stage_five
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2021, 10:24:22 pm »
"We must ensure "stage 5" is the less-fertile future:"

This is going to be hard without state control over reproduction. So-called spontaneous sub-replacement fertility rates are mean values. Rather than meaning most people have fewer than 2 offspring, in practice it is more likely to imply a bimodal distribution where a lot of people have 0 offspring and another lot of people have 2 or more. This means that in the following generation there is likely to be a fertility rebound as the generation is demographically dominated by those in the high fertility mode.

At least a One Child Policy would limit even the most fertile to 1 offspring only, thus mitigating the above effect.
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2021, 02:24:30 pm »
China announces three-child policy, in major policy shift
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Married Chinese couples may have up to three children, China announced, in a major shift from the existing limit of two after recent data showed a dramatic decline in births in the world's most populous country.
 
#News #Reuters #China #Population #three-child policy #Couples


What a shame! Declining birthrates is what needs to happen globally.

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2021, 10:26:11 pm »
China has officially lost its biggest narrative advantage. It could have gone down in history as the country which led the world in depopulation via state control over reproduction, and hence displayed the superiority of autocracy that enabled it to forge ahead while the democratic countries languished behind. All it needed to do was stick to the One-Child Policy already in place and encourage other countries to copy it:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/true-left-vs-right/western-civilization-sustainable-evil/msg6699/#msg6699

Instead, right as this juncture when global warming is demanding more heavy-handed countermeasures all around the world, and at the same time China has unprecedented economic leverage over large parts of the world, in other words when conditions are optimal for other countries to start copying, Xi's "New China" itself gives up! Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.....

Worse, the False Left is cheering this as "human rights" progress.

China's population was <400 million before the Century of Humiliation:



This should be what it should be trying to get back to at the absolute minimum! Heck:



why not <100 million? That was its spontaneously comfortable population for millennia! It is no coincidence that that was when China was the world leader in aesthetics. Look at your own ancient paintings FFS! Look how few people there are in them!







This is the ideal that China should be aiming at!
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2021, 10:44:16 pm »
Global population hit by extreme drought set to double


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I'm actually shocked it took humans this long to destroy our futures.  Oh well, RIP humankind, it was a good run.  PS the animals left in the world after we are gone thank you for leaving before killing off the rest of them first.

No, it was not a good run at all....

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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 09:16:38 pm »
China huge crisis: short of childbearing age women/3-child policy is ridiculed by the masses



Most of the comments are all talking about how the one child policy bit China in the ass. OR, maybe,  it was the culture of it being more desirable to have boys rather than girls for some stupid reason.


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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2022, 09:15:55 pm »
Keeping track of what our enemies are thinking is crucial to defeating them:

https://counter-currents.com/2022/01/focus-on-birth-control-not-elections/

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What advocates of our people should focus on is birth control in the Third World, especially Africa. In 2018, the average cost of a victorious Congressional run was over two million dollars; winning senators spent an average of 15.7 million dollars. That’s to say that having 30 Paul Gosars in Congress would cost 60 million dollars every two years. Those 30 Congressmen could create a “Patriotic Immigration Reform” caucus that would be stymied by the Republican mainstream and the entire Democrat Party over and over again. This caucus would not increase white birthrates, nor would it lower non-white birth rates. And again, actually sending this caucus to office — even at that steep cost — would be a political miracle.

Those 60 million dollars could be much better spent. Consider the average cost of an abortion in the US: $320 to $500 at ten weeks, $500 to $700 at 16 weeks, and $1,000 to $2,000 at 20 weeks or later — and 88% of abortions are carried out before week 13. In America, for every one white woman who aborts, six non-white women do. With that in mind, I would happily forfeit Marjorie Taylor Greene’s Congressional seat to any Democrat in exchange for a new abortion clinic in Los Angeles. Don’t like abortion? No problem. Condoms, IUDs, and oral contraceptives are all even cheaper options. Making them readily available to teenagers and the poor today will do more to improve the quality of your grandchildren’s high school than a President Trump, Jr. ever will.

But while expanded access to “family planning” is needed both at home and across the pond, we need to go further. Sub-Saharan Africa is the biggest demographic threat the world faces. In 2015, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán spoke clearly about this in the European context:

The countries of North Africa once functioned as a defence zone protecting Europe, absorbing the masses of people coming from Africa’s interior. And the real threat is not from the war zones, Ladies and Gentlemen, but from the heart of Africa. With the disintegration of North African states this line of defence has been spectacularly breached, and North Africa is no longer able to protect Europe from a vast flood of people. As a result, a problem has developed on a truly unimaginable scale. I agree with former President Sarkozy, who said on French television just the other day that the current wave of mass migration is only the beginning. There are one point one billion people in Africa today, more than half of them under the age of twenty-five. According to Mr. Sarkozy, before long hundreds of millions of people will have nowhere to live, and insufficient food and water. Following in the footsteps of today’s migrants, these people will leave their homelands. In other words, what is at stake today is Europe and the European way of life, the survival or extinction of European values and nations — or, to be more precise, their transformation beyond all recognition. The question now is not merely what kind of Europe we Hungarians would like to live in, but whether Europe as we now know it will survive at all.
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No member of the Trump family or the Republican Party can do much about these fertility differentials and what they portend for the West. But abortion, reliable condoms, and “the pill” could make quite the impact. Let’s stop wasting so much of our time and resources on domestic politics and instead focus on something more concretely productive: lowering Africa’s fertility rate.

I would support a one-child policy for all bloodlines of victims of Western colonialism if in conjunction with a zero-child policy for all bloodlines of Western colonialists. Of course our enemies would not accept such a deal. So we will just have to exterminate them.

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« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2022, 12:34:11 am »
I think the 3-child policy is driven by the need for manpower and survival of China by the government.

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2022, 09:02:47 pm »
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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2022, 12:21:41 pm »
Russia's Demographic Crisis Explained - TLDR News
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Putin's invasion of Ukraine hasn't gone as well as he had planned, but things aren't going much better at home either, with Russia's fertility rate verging on a demographic crisis. Can Putin do anything about it, or will the war just make things worse?


Sounds like a positive development to me at this particular juncture in the timeline!?

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A Russian has recently married into our family. She said that there was no way she was going to marry a Russian male. Apparently there is an imbalance between the number of males to females in the populace with less men. The males apparently take advantage of the situation and the females get treated poorly, so she wanted out.
This wasn't mentioned in the TLDR video.
Maybe the Ukrainian war will have an impact on the out of balance male-female ratio. She did mention the low male life expectancy as all her father's friends have died.
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Worth thing noting and I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned here is the domestic violence issue in Russia. It was decriminalised in 2017. Many many women have been harmed at the hands of their own men and many ended up dying in their own homes due to brutality occuring there. I can't imagine all this encourages women to have children when violence is so rampant. Then again, the head of the Russian church has remarked that "beatings are mere blessings" so maybe this might actually have nothing to do with birth rates going to hell.

Perhaps integration of some Ukrainians into Russia is the purpose of the "filtration camps" then?
https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/diplomatic-decolonization/?message=12645

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2022, 09:12:09 pm »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-claims-japan-eventually-183412560.html

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Elon Musk claims 'Japan will eventually cease to exist' because of its declining birth rate
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According to the article, Japan's population dropped by a record 644,000 people to just over 125.5 million in 2021, which saw 831,000 births and 1.44 million deaths. The East Asian country’s population decline is now in its 11th consecutive year.

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reducing Japan's population by 100 million would merely bring it closer to the pre-Meiji population, as I previously discussed here:

http://aryanism.net/blog/aryan-sanctuary/another-one-bites-the-dust/

which was a population (while still high) at least had not yet exceeded the carrying capacity of the land, and hence is what we should be actively trying to get back to ASAP. And at least back then Japanese were not Eurocentrists, whereas now this is how they respond to Musk:

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Master, thank you for raising the issue.

This Eurocentrist Japan is what Musk is actually worried about ceasing to exist.
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« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2022, 06:15:02 pm »
I am no fan of Macron, but on this occasion he displays common sense (to our enemies' horror):

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/09/18/macron-proposes-repopulating-rural-areas-with-migrants/

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French president Emmanuel Macron has proposed creating a bill next year to reform France’s immigration and asylum policies, including a proposal to redistribute migrants to rural areas facing demographic decline.
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“We have a policy that is both inefficient and inhumane, inefficient because we find ourselves with more foreigners in an irregular situation than many of our neighbours, inhumane because this pressure means that they are too often badly received,” President Macron said, the newspaper Le Figaro reports.
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President Macron, who made his remarks on Thursday, also called for a new system to redistribute migrants across France, specifically in “rural areas, which are losing population,” arguing that “the conditions for their reception will be much better than if we put them in areas that are already densely populated, with a concentration of massive economic and social problems.”

France is merely arriving late to obvious solutions that other EU countries had already reached years ago:

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Similar policies have been suggested in other countries in recent years, including Germany, where in 2016 it was suggested that villages and small towns could help integrate asylum seekers better and the asylum seekers would help counter demographic decline.

A University of Milano-Bicocca study released last year also proposed using asylum seekers to repopulate rural areas and small towns in Italy, arguing that if the local governments limited migrant centres to no more than 25 people, there would be little economic cost.

See also:

https://trueleft.createaforum.com/issues/population-and-demographics/msg10882/#msg10882

How do we know this is the correct solution? We look at who are opposing it:

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Some in France, such as populist National Rally leader Marine Le Pen, have come out against Macron’s proposal, however.

“Emmanuel Macron wants to distribute foreigners in an irregular situation [illegal aliens] to rural areas. We believe that they should go back home. Unable to apply the law, he wants to change it. We will oppose this new madness!” Le Pen said on Twitter on Friday.

Rival populist Eric Zemmour had proposed €10,000 “birth grants” during the French presidential elections, to repopulate the countryside naturally

What is madness is encouraging more new births when there are already so many people desperately in need of housing.